Transexuals who do drag shows

[TsVanessa69]

What do you guys think of that? Are we any less transexual, should we be ashamed? A certain H/A threw it in my face that I work in gay clubs, yet couldn't get a job in the hood, yet she does neither. But being a drag queen, do that make me less of a transexual? Are there any other girls on here that have done porn and drag shows? Ts Kourtney, or Kourtney van Whales has done both. And what do the guys think?

[MrsKellyPierce]

A lot of top entertainers are Transexuals. And pretty much all the pageantry systems for the last couple years has been dominated by transexuals. Making a lot of the gay guys that are queens upset at our community.

Even the look on stage and in pageants has changed. Everyone is going for more of the natural look rather than painted for the GODS.

I do shows here and there. Actually I have a show the 25th in Peoria, Illinois at club Diesel welcoming me back home.

[xfiver]

A lot of top entertainers are Transexuals. And pretty much all the pageantry systems for the last couple years has been dominated by transexuals. Making a lot of the gay guys that are queens upset at our community.

I do shows here and there. Actually I have a show the 25th in Peoria, Illinois at club Diesel welcoming me back home.

you should do one in a cheerleader uniform or a homecoming queen dress and tiara.

make sure you get pictures of this glorious event and post pics! :roll:

[Jericho]

You are who you are, not what you do.

[arc angel]

jericho, I agree.

[biguy4tvtscd]

Ashamed?? Ashamed of what dear lady...that some ignoramus might try to force their world vision upon your world?

If someone is giving you grief because you're a t-girl in a "DQ show", there's only one solution....quite "accidently" spill your drink on them, preferably one that's dark and colorful.

While I've never understood the allure of drag shows, I say go for it, and go for it with gusto!

[whatsupwithat]

There are tons here in NYC. A few of them are very good friends of mine. You keep being who you are, keep loving, keep performing, and don't listen to anyone. They're just jealous and wish they had the talent you and so many others do.

[TomSelis]

Nah, it's nothing to worry about. I've dated a couple of girls that do or did drag shows that were not drag queens, but actual transexuals on hormones. Meanwhile, there are "transexuals" that aren't on hormones, that will turn up their nose at a girl that does drag shows. It's all semantics. It's kind of tough for a guy to wrap his head around this community sometimes.

Here's what I learned though. Those dresses are hella expensive. They have to wear outlandish makeup because that's what people want to see. But in real life they can look very, very attractive. Sometimes they get paid very little and bust their ass nightly or weekly doing those shows. Some of them have REAL talent.

Respect to you for doing you, Vanessa.

[peggygee]

What do you guys think of that? Are we any less transexual, should we be ashamed? A certain H/A threw it in my face that I work in gay clubs, yet couldn't get a job in the hood, yet she does neither. But being a drag queen, do that make me less of a transexual? ?

Personally, I don't think your doing drag shows makes you less of a
transsexual.

I see it the same as if a natal female were to do a drag show, ala
Victor-Victoria. In both instances I feel that we are still women.

However, I do have a problem with drag queens 'reppin' for the
transcommunity. In some instances, I feel that they cast a negative
perception to society of us. And I am not neccessarily referring to the
shows that they do, but rather how they may conduct themselves in
the light of day.

[TsVanessa69]

I think that a lot of peoples perceptions of transexuals is a drag queen, or a man in a dress. I am a transexual who is an entertainer, "drag" is the form of entertainment I chose to do. I enjoy what I do, I enjoy being on stage, I enjoy entertaining people, for one moment in your day, you can be taken to another world, a fantasy world, Now to be in this business as I have for 10 years, you have to have TALENT, be professional, and have endurance. Sometimes its not as easy as you think. We have to make our own costumes, which is quite expensive, we have to learn many skills to become a GOOD top of the line entertainer. We have to do everything ourselves. The clubs don't supply make-up artist and hairstylest, so you must know who to become a make-up artist, hairstylist, fashion designer, as well as a public speaker. Now not many girls can do that. Some girls such as Candis Cayne are professional dancers, thus enhancing their illusions a bit more. Oh yes and sometimes thats why we escort, we have to buy all wigs, shoes, everything from head to toe, As we can't just buy clothes off the rack, we need costume designers, we have to by fabrics, stones, my the list goes on and on, so yes, some of us do escort to cover the vast expenses of good costumes, especially girls who compete in transexual beauty pageants. One competition gown can cost $10,000. But we do what we do, we bust our asses to entertain, and I just don't feel its right for some girl who doesn't even have the balls, much less the talent to fix their mouth to say I just work in a gay bar because I can't get a job in the straight world, many straight females have told me they could never do what I do, that they admired us for getting in front of people on a daily bases.

[xfiver]

A lot of top entertainers are Transexuals. And pretty much all the pageantry systems for the last couple years has been dominated by transexuals. Making a lot of the gay guys that are queens upset at our community.

Even the look on stage and in pageants has changed. Everyone is going for more of the natural look rather than painted for the GODS.

I do shows here and there. Actually I have a show the 25th in Peoria, Illinois at club Diesel welcoming me back home.

bullshit. :roll:
http://www.superpages.com/yellowpages/C-Nightclubs/S-IL/T-Peoria/

http://www.mygayweb.com/bars/city/?CityID=307

[Felicia Katt]

I don't know if they are having a special show for Kelly or not but there is a Club Diesel

http://forum.djjustinsane.com/printthread.php?t=153

and I have seen pictures online of Kelly doing drag before.

Just because you have a hammer doesn't mean everything is a nail.

FK

[Ant-Man]

Vanessa, no matter the venue, you are a professional entertainer. Your friend may try to take something from you with her negative comments, but the fact remains.

In the San Francisco Bay Area I have been to drag shows at A Tinkers Dam in Santa Clara, Lido's and Mexicali in San Jose, The Bench and Bar in Oakland, Esta Noche, Marlena's and Aunt Charlie's in San Francisco and all of them featured queens and TG performers working together. I know two fashion designers, one in SF & one in San Jose, who do custom work for the entertainers & are kept quite busy doing it. As Alexis Miranda often says during her introduction for Divas' Midnight Show, "Open up your wallets people and tip these girls. It costs a lot of money to look this cheap." Personally, I find the production values to be quite high at the shows. I can't speak for the region, but from my vantage point, I don't see anyone looking down on any of the entertainers - they are too busy enjoying the show.

[tsntx]

However, I do have a problem with drag queens 'reppin' for the
transcommunity. In some instances, I feel that they cast a negative
perception to society of us. And I am not neccessarily referring to the
shows that they do, but rather how they may conduct themselves in
the light of day.

agreed

[MrsKellyPierce]

I don't know if they are having a special show for Kelly or not but there is a Club Diesel

http://forum.djjustinsane.com/printthread.php?t=153

and I have seen pictures online of Kelly doing drag before.

Just because you have a hammer doesn't mean everything is a nail.

FK lol Thank you..it's the Decevia Mann show :)

[wendy48088]

What do you guys think of that? Are we any less transexual, should we be ashamed? A certain H/A threw it in my face that I work in gay clubs, yet couldn't get a job in the hood, yet she does neither. But being a drag queen, do that make me less of a transexual? Are there any other girls on here that have done porn and drag shows? Ts Kourtney, or Kourtney van Whales has done both. And what do the guys think?

I have to admit, I (being older, and of the older mindset) tend to think of "Drag Queens", "Female Impersonators" and the like as gay men.

Think RuPaul ( http://www.rupaul.com/ ) and Frank Marino ( http://www.frankmarino.com/index.php?page=home ).

But as of more recent years, the lines have become blurred as more of the Showgirls have gotten stuff done like breast augmentations... (I hate to mention it, but also sometimes silicone injections in the cheeks, breasts, and hips).

I would think a girl who lives full time and is taking feminizing hormones, has her own (female length) hair, and breast augmentation would have a huge advantage over all but the most natural gay male Female Impersonators.

There is a bit of a difference between being a gay male doing drag and a Transgender woman who is a showgirl - certainly they would have different friends and different things to talk about...

[wendy48088]

...Are we any less transexual, should we be ashamed? A certain H/A threw it in my face that I work in gay clubs... But being a drag queen, do that make me less of a transexual? ...

First of all, you are not less of a transsexual for working as a showgirl performing in a gay club.

You are, however, physically almost 100% a woman. So you do have what some may consider an "unfair advantage" compared to someone who has to wear a corset, hip pads, breast forms, and a ton of makeup to cover a masculine face and beard shadow.

Probably that's why your competition hates you. :)

But don't feel bad about it - just take it in stride. It's just that your so much closer to the real thing that it seems unfair to the others... :)

[TrueBeauty TS]

Some of the most beautiful trannys do drag shows.


It's part of our culture & part of our proud history.

[BrendaQG]

Vanessa.

I know exactly what type of person who would have said that. They are the kind that when I show up in a hijab will say to me "you know no one here will hurt you if you do not wear that." :roll: They are serious when they say that too. A type of person who seems to know what's best for everyone else but their own shit is way out of order.

You enjoy performing, you make your living off of it. How many people in the world can say they enjoy doing their job? Not many so in that way you are lucky. For this reason in addition to the other reasons already mentioned whoever said that to you was just full of jealous resentment at your good fortune. To hell with them.

Doing drag shows does not make you less of a woman just because some male identified people do those as well. If the fact that men do a certain job made a TS less of a woman for doing that job; then most TS's would be subject to the criticism that TS's who drag get. That does not happen because this is not logical just pure jealousy's at work.

[nicoleneuman24]

where can i see you perform, vanessa :)

[TsVanessa69]

where can i see you perform, vanessa :)
I am all over the city, from baton to Circuit, this saturday at InnExile

[dan_drade]

There is nothing wrong with doing drag shows as long as it is something that you enjoy doing. I know a few girls in the city that do it for fun and a little extra cash. I have been to a few of them myself and they do seem to make pretty good money. It's not enough to make a living, but a few hundred extra bucks on a saturday night is not bad for just a few hours of work.

[BlackAdder]

I would much much rather see a tgirl doing a show then putting her ass out on the street, yes maam.