I dream of Genie!

[TeeLover]

I watched one of the Maury's "Who was born a man" shows this evening. I'm sure it was discussed before in the past but this was my first viewing.

"Sabrina" was dressed in a Genie outfit and what a doll. Such cute mannerisms and a face that is pure beauty. The best part was hearing how the majority of the audience was screaming "WOMAN!" everytime for her. She was, without ANY doubt the best looking & most feminine girl on the "panel". No offense to the others but she just rings my bell. I enjoyed watching her in a non-film environment; seeing how she moves, etc. - I just kept saying "Mmm, mmm, mmm!".

Thanks for putting another smile on my face, Danielle!

On a side note - I can't help but wonder about the emotional reactions of any GG that has an audience screaming "MAN!" when asked what they think. Must be hard on them to unveil the "Woman" sign. Unless, of course, they're going for that look. Then again - they know the show's topic & I guess they could've declined if it was too much for them to go through.

[Realgirls4me]

Teelover,

Jaysus. This is scary, Teelover, but your post was precisely everything I wanted to post about said show and woman (Danielle). It was my first time viewing that particular pre-Halloween taped show today also, as I missed its initial showing. I didn't see the entire show, but just enough of Danielle's eroticism and mannerisms, er, womanisms, you mentioned to have me gawking at the lovely Ms Foxxx. Yes, Danielle Foxxx is one striking young woman. I hope I can meet her in person someday. She seems to have a very playful demeanor to go along with those incredible sexy looks also. What a dreamy woman. :)

I too would love to see her, and other beautiful women such as her, in real life, unscripted, nonperforming roles interacting with the world of their milieu in everyday life. I would pay for a good video of her in provocative attire -- or even regular attire for that matter -- doing everyday things such as shopping for a sexy dress or chemise, doing the laundry in tight shorts and loose top, sunbathing at a beach, painting her toe nails, or being hit on at a club by men who find her just as beautiful and desirable as I do. Not all fantasies girls such as Danielle help create, pique, or stimulate, revolve around fucking their brains out, going down on them, or receiving a hummer from them, et all. The most potent aphrodesiac isn't found in a lap dance, erotic image, or porn DVD, but between our ears, and how we churn it or work it. For every fantasy I have of having wonderful sex and cuddling up with someone such as Danielle, there is another of the two of us walking hand in hand along a beautiful beach or even doing the wash at the laundrymat. Those fantasies connote a lot of things, if you know what I mean. :)

I agree with you on your comment about what the emotion toll, if any, these GGs have to endure when labeled a "man" by these unemployed audience members , but on the flipside, I also wonder what emotional toll it takes on TSs who in their and my eyes are women, but yet must endure a show such as this where their gender once again is differentiated or highlighted because they simply can't be accepted as a woman, but only "women" who were once men. ...I dunno.:(

Great minds think alike. Nice post, Tee ! :)

[TeeLover]

Yeah - there's something about a girl that can make you think that way, you know? The kind that you can enjoy just watching them being a person. My my!

I had a quick image of me as an audience member being asked by Maury "What do you think?" Just an ear to ear grin as I stared across the stage into those smiling eyes of hers - "Who cares - look at that girl!!!

Then another one where I'm betting a friend or other audience member a hundred or two on the correct answer.

On your point about the TS reaction or feelings towards those shows - I wonder how many use it as a gauge of "success" (for want of a better term) in their transformation. It must be quite rewarding to those who hear "WOMAN" from the bulk of the audience. And perhaps somewhat a disappointment for those that don't hear it at all. One of the "girls" who was hearing "MAN! MAN!" from the majority did look a bit set back when she flipped over the MAN sign. As if she thought that she had made more progress than "we" thought.

[SPOOKABLE_TRANNY]

The GG's are the ones who confuse the audience. It's not because they appear more masculine, it's because they're usually wearing wigs and lots of makeup to throw the audience off. These GG's are not bothered because they're job is to trick the audience. However, if you've watched most of these shows, they pick out the trannies right away. Most of the trannies are spookable to the point where you can just tell, high cheek bones/harder face, breast implants, narrow hips, not to mention the deeper voice if they speak and just the way they carry themselves in general. They have to learn how to 'act' like women. I've seen shows where the audience knew Giselle, Gia AND Allanah were men right away. Just because some tranny chasers have this delusion that trannies are more feminine doesn't mean everyone else does.

[Danielle Foxxx]

WOW
What a nice thing to say, I have recently read some really nasty stuff about me on another web site and I was feeling really down, but after reading this you guys made my night!
Hearing that from a man who dates TS women means alot when youj know 99% don't even attempt.

I love you guys

Kisses
D

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Let me tell you about the Maury show-
the audience assumes EVERYONE is a man. Everyone gets called a man on that show. U know that when you go on there. Its what the show is about and I have been on three times. In both instances I have had people swear I was a man and others swear I was a woman.

I personally could give a shit, literally.
My life is not a beauty pageant.

I am not concerend with being the most beautiful transsexual or who is the most beautiful or who is the most passable. There are tons of lovely and beautiful girls- the above poster, my friend Danielle being one of them. I'm concered with being the best I can be for me. Truth be, I am obessed with aesthetics and youth and surgery- but I apply those concepts to myself.

Just like with women ( or anyone) you are going to have attractive and unattractive ts and those opinions will vary. Example, the post on ANA from Miami who I think is lovely and someone thought she looked to fake.
That's just the way life is- everyone has got an opinion about something.

Truth is some people might find me attractive or others might find me hideous.

I am just me, thats allllllllllllllllllllllllllll and I can always look, be, and do better and godh darn it, I WILL.

[LG]

SPOOKABLE_TRANNY wrote:


I've seen shows where the audience knew Giselle, Gia AND Allanah were men right away. Just because some tranny chasers have this delusion that trannies are more feminine doesn't mean everyone else does.

I think that some t-girls have a tendency to overdo it, in terms of make-up and boob jobs. Allanah, you're one sexy woman, she practically oozes sex, but the oversize boobs are a tad unnatural (though I'm not complaing!) and might give the game away. As for Giselle, I think she's pretty hot, but to me she lacks the gentle femininity of a woman with real curves. Other girls may still have some features that may be considered masculine (tall, and broad shouldered perhaps or with a squarish jaw), but that doesn't necessarily make them appear less feminine overall or less sexy. Some of the most beautiful and most feminine GGs in the world have these features. Note Vendela Kirsenbom's and even Mandy Moore's square jaws. Note also Briggite Nielsen (well, I thought she was sexy in the 1980's).

Danielle Foxx on the other hand is supremely sexy but also looks very feminine and in a natural way, and with every new photo I see of her she looks more so.

I think when you place the girls in an environment like Jerry Springer or the Maury Popovich show, however (which I have heard and read of but never seen) then people will be trying hard to guess which is which and will get some right, but in a real environment, in the street, a girl like Allanah, Gia, Meghan Chavalier, Vanity or Danielle Foxx would surely turn heads because of there beautiful features and striking body. All of them are what the British would call a "stunner" (i.e. stunningly beautiful). Pity the poor woman, however, who has everyone convinced she is a transexual! Though I would suggest that to be grouped alongside Meghan or Danielle is a compliment, I don't think she would be convinced.

In any case, as far as I a can tell, the most realiable giveaways are an Adam's apple (not 100 % reliable as it may have been small in any case, and some tgs surgically remove it- also some beautiful women like Francesca Neri and Jeri Ryan actually have one) and hand size (not foolproof either- some men have smaller hands than some women) or a girls voice (not nearly the dead giveaway that some might think, though)

Furthermore, I think the "passability" or "femininity" of a t-girl depends on many things, including her natural features, whether she's used hormones or surgery and at what age she began her transformation (the earlier the better, I would think). Not all tgs are sexy and gorgeous, of course. Then again not all GGs are either. But many tg women have become well known for their beauty and sex appeal- not just the preops we all admire on this forum but also postops in entertainment, such as Korea's Harisu, Greece's Jenny Hiloudaki, British models April Ashley and Caroline Cossey, Israel's Tali Mayan, Japan's Natsuko Okuda, Thailand's Kim Lertsubin (now a PR rep for a Thai SRS clinic which also catered for Thai beauty Natta Klomklau) and Spain's Bibiana Fernandez.

To end this blathering on, I would suggest everyone has a go at Rob Manuel's Female or Shemale quizzes (available at http://jelly.b3ta.com/quizzes/ ). My first attempt at version one yielded both false positives and false negatives and a score of around 14, although I would get a perfect 20 out of 20 in all of them now.

Oh, and Danielle Foxx wrote:



I love you guys

We love you too Danielle. We love all you girls, in fact, and my suggestion to all of you girls is this - boycott the Maury show, boycott Jerry Springer, boycott anyone who fails to show you respect and to treat you as the beautiful women you are rather than the curiousities or freaks that those who can't understand consider you to be. I know what they say about any kind of publicity being good but why should you subject yourselves to being disrespected and being wrongly labelled for the sake of publicity.

Alannah said :


I am just me, thats allllllllllllllllllllllllllll and I can always look, be, and do better and godh darn it, I WILL.

That's all we can ask of anyone including ourselves. And whilst I think you're perfect as you are Alannah, if you feel the need to change, I'm with you. You will always have the respect and admiration of, I believe, every man who visits these pages- and I promise you that it's more than a sexual thing. Don't forget that.

Finally, just for good measure and for everyone's enjoyment I include some pictures of the post op tgirls I mentioned above. Wouldn't they turn anyone's head?

[Danielle Foxxx]

Allanah,

I respect you in many ways, but in this you are wrong! LOL JK
Seriously I think Ana is Lovely and I also believe that Plastic surgery is a gift from heaven, unfortunally I haven't been as lucky with money to get to see a surgeon for my face, I have however been injected with a few liquids...baby oil, olive oil, or an occasional silicone...LOLOLOLOL

I agree, Ana is beautiful, and look at that picture of us at AVN...you, Gia, Ana are at a different caliber then anyone I have seen, and what I like about you is that you are creating an empire for yourself, I respect you for your strenth and business choices.

Kisses
D

[Realgirls4me]

Danielle,

I just got back earlier today from my latest 24 hour sojourn to Hollywood, and believe it or not, I had you in mind of hopefully seeing and meeting there at Peanuts this time around. It would have been a pleasure and honor. ...I had visited on a Monday and wanted to see what is what all about. It was alright and I had a great time as usual, but it was certainly nothing like it is on a typical Friday, or had you graced it with your presence. :)

[TeeLover]

I've only seen that one of his shows myself but read/hear of many others

Maybe it's just me but it seems that Maury seems to enjoy being around the "girls" an awful lot. I think it's more than the "shock value" of it all to him. I wonder if Connie shares his interests or, perhaps, is really a ladyboy. Now THAT would be something.

Springer, on the other hand, well... it is Springer, after all.


For all you girls that have been on Maury - how are you treated by him? As a curiousity or as a person?