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CymruInstinct
04-24-2007, 06:28 AM
Thanks for the heads up! I missed that special on MSNBC the other night, so I definitely want to try and catch this one.

Ecstatic
04-24-2007, 06:33 AM
Me, too. I only found out this evening that, for some strange reason, our Comcast lists MSNBC as "Local Access" and ALL programs are listed as "Local Access Programming" so it's impossible to schedule a recording unless I manually set the DVR for a known time. So I missed the MSNBC show, too. I'll definitely try to catch this one!

peggygee
04-24-2007, 10:57 AM
Me, too. I only found out this evening that, for some strange reason, our Comcast lists MSNBC as "Local Access" and ALL programs are listed as "Local Access Programming" so it's impossible to schedule a recording unless I manually set the DVR for a known time. So I missed the MSNBC show, too. I'll definitely try to catch this one!

You can view segments here, as well as read excerpts from the program..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18250458/

These are additional viewing dates.

http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?id=6581319&sourcetype=s

Born in the Wrong Body Wed, May 2
10:00 PM MSNBC

Born in the Wrong Body Thu, May 3
1:00 AM

NYTSJulie
04-24-2007, 11:28 AM
Love for Barbara Walters, I will be watching.

EdelweissFan
04-24-2007, 01:34 PM
Leora, this is good news. Sometimes when the media tries to make a minority group acceptable, they start with showing the evil effects on the children. The civil rights movement started by focusing on the effect of elementary school segregation on African American children. When most of the public was disgusted by people (mostly gay) with AIDS, the activists and media latched onto a boy (hemophiliac) with AIDS and swung the public's sympathy around.

Hopefully the mainstream media will start taking discrimination against transgendered people seriously by focusing on transgendered children, and make them acceptable.

tsntx
04-25-2007, 12:30 PM
Moving this back up to the top

also this week discovery health is doing a few episodes dedicated to m2f trannies... i saw it in scheduling line up while searching for re-running updates on my show

SarahG
04-25-2007, 01:04 PM
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gummi baer
04-28-2007, 04:23 AM
bump...it's on now

tonkatoy
04-28-2007, 07:00 AM
i think the show was very good, although i do wish somebody would take Barbara Walters out back and beat her with a brick. Seems like it is tougher on the fathers than the mothers in a way, but its good that the families were doing the right thing for their kids.

Vala_TS
04-28-2007, 04:14 PM
I saw it. It was one of the best transexual stories I ever saw on TV. The thing that I hate about most transexual shows (such as ones on TLC) is that the FTM is usually a young Tman and the MTF is usually a 40+ year old Tgirl who looks masucline (no offense to anyone). I hate that. It gives people the wrong idea. So it's nice to see a show that shows both kinds of TS's the same way. (IE: Young MTF and young FTM)

I wish I could have started earlier as well as I definately had feelings of being female when I was 11. If I did, I wouldn't need any electrolosis or anything.

Vala,

scroller
04-28-2007, 04:29 PM
On a side note, I leave for up north early next week (Monday or Tuesday) and begin looking for an apartment in northern NJ (with a roommate asuming all things go well) soon thereafter :)

Good luck with the move.

peggygee
05-01-2007, 09:59 PM
Comments on the show;

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/comments?type=story&id=3088298

yodajazz
05-02-2007, 07:55 AM
Here in Ohio, about 5 years ago, some parents wanted their six(?) year old boy to go to school as a girl. They stated, (it was chiefly the mother), that the child had GID. The state went to court, took custody of the child, and placed it in foster care. It was reported that the foster family refused to to let the child wear any girls clothes and tried to give the child male role models and outlets.

I don't know what happened after that because the story dropped out of the news. I can't truly judge what happened because I dont know the intimate details of the case, just media reports.

My point is that hopefully in the future there will be more understanding in cases like that in this state.

Jamie Michelle
05-02-2007, 09:23 AM
Below are ABC News articles published in connection with the TV news report "My Secret Self: A Story of Transgender Children," 20/20 (ABC News), April 27, 2007 at 10 p.m. EDT. I thought that people here would find these of interest.

"Born With the Wrong Body: Transgender 10-Year-Old Girl and Her Family Talk to Barbara Walters," Alan B. Goldberg with contribution from Joneil Adriano and Jennifer Joseph, ABC News, April 25, 2007 http://abcnews.go.com/2020/print?id=3072518
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3072518

"What Is Gender Identity Disorder?: Definition From the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV), Published by the American Psychiatric Association," ABC News http://abcnews.go.com/2020/print?id=3074520
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3074520

"Transgender Children: Frequently Asked Questions; Frequently Asked Questions to Help You Understand Transgender Children," Stephanie Grant, ABC News, April 25, 2007 http://abcnews.go.com/2020/print?id=3074652
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3074652

"'I Want to Be Seen as Male': Transgender Teenager and His Parents Share Their Story With Barbara Walters," Alan B. Goldberg and Joneil Adriano, ABC News, April 26, 2007 http://abcnews.go.com/2020/print?id=3077906
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3077906

"Jeremy's Letter to His Parents: Jeremy Wrote the Following Letter on September 19, 2004," ABC News http://abcnews.go.com/2020/print?id=3078716
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3078716

"Sportswriter Takes Transgender Identity Public; Mike Penner of the L.A. Times Wrote a Column to Explain Some Changes, Including His New Name: Christine," Laura Coverson, ABC News, April 27, 2007 http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id=3087443
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3087443
http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id=3090749
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3090749

"'I'm a Girl'--Understanding Transgender Children: Parents of Transgender Six-Year-Old Girl Support Her Choice," Alan B. Goldberg and Joneil Adriano, ABC News, April 27, 2007 http://abcnews.go.com/2020/print?id=3088298
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3088298

"Transgender Children: Resources; Resources and More Information to Help You Understand Transgender Children," ABC News, April 27, 2007 http://abcnews.go.com/2020/print?id=3089992
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3089992

"Transgender Children Face Unique Challenges: Families Talk to Barbara Walters About Rejection, Harrassment and Isolation," Joneil Adriano, ABC News, April 27, 2007 http://abcnews.go.com/2020/print?id=3091754
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3091754

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Below are short videos (circa 2 to 7 minutes) in connection with the 20/20 program "My Secret Self." The first URL for each video is for streaming play using the Adobe Flash Player browser plugin; the second for downloading the video file to one's hard drive.

"Born In the Wrong Body: Adults who have changed their gender share their memories," ABC News, April 24, 2007 http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3073483
http://a113.g.akamai.net/n/113/19224/v001/abcnews2.download.akamai.com/19224/070424_2020_webcast.flv

"Transgender Children: A transgender teenager and his parents talk to Barbara Walters," ABC News, April 26, 2007 http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3084254
http://a113.g.akamai.net/n/113/19224/v001/abcnews2.download.akamai.com/19224/070425_2020_webcast_new.flv

"My Secret Life: Barbara Walters has the compelling story of transgender children," ABC News, April 26, 2007 http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3084439
http://a113.g.akamai.net/n/113/19224/v001/abcnews2.download.akamai.com/19224/070426_2020_webcast.flv

"Living as the Opposite Sex: Inside the world of a transgender child," ABC News, April 27, 2007 http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3088042
http://a113.g.akamai.net/n/113/19224/v001/abcnews2.download.akamai.com/19224/070427gma_trans.flv

"Facing Rejection: Social worker Caitlin Ryan on how rejection affects transgender children," ABC News, April 27, 2007 http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3091799
http://a113.g.akamai.net/n/113/19224/v001/abcnews2.download.akamai.com/19224/070427_2020_webcast.flv

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See also:

"My Secret Self: A Story of Transgender Children," ABC News, April 25, 2007 http://blogs.abcnews.com/insideout/2007/04/my_secret_self_.html

"Join Discussions on '20/20' Stories," ABC News http://forums.abcnews.go.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?webtag=ABC2020

Below is the ABC press release for the 20/20 program "My Secret Self":

"A Barbara Walters Report: Living As--and With--a Transgender Kid, on ABC News' '20/20,' Friday, April 27," ABC Medianet, April 19, 2007, pp. 4-5 http://abcmedianet.com/DNR/2007/pdf/dnr041907.pdf
http://abcmedianet.com/DNR/2007/doc/dnr041907.doc
http://abcmedianet.com/Web/progcal/dispDNR.aspx?id=041907_02

Below is the Los Angeles Times article referred to in the above ABC News article about Mike Penner, soon to be Christine Daniels:

"Old Mike, new Christine," Mike Penner, Los Angeles Times, April 26, 2007 http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-oldmike26apr26,0,588768,full.story
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-oldmike26apr26,1,3394028.story
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-oldmike26apr26,1,7621870,full.story

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The above videos use the FLV (Flash Video) file format, so one will need a media player that can play FLV files if one intends to play them from one's hard drive. Below are two free media players which can play these videos:

FLV Player:

http://www.martijndevisser.com/blog/article/flv-player-updated

K-Lite Mega Codec Pack:

http://www.codecguide.com
http://www.codecguide.com/download_mega.htm

razoredge1975
05-02-2007, 10:29 AM
saw it and loved it. was amazing!

SarahG
05-02-2007, 11:30 AM
Here in Ohio, about 5 years ago, some parents wanted their six(?) year old boy to go to school as a girl. They stated, (it was chiefly the mother), that the child had GID. The state went to court, took custody of the child, and placed it in foster care. It was reported that the foster family refused to to let the child wear any girls clothes and tried to give the child male role models and outlets.

I don't know what happened after that because the story dropped out of the news. I can't truly judge what happened because I dont know the intimate details of the case, just media reports.

My point is that hopefully in the future there will be more understanding in cases like that in this state.

Usually such stories did not end up in the media... as of 10 years ago some parents in some states were getting *jailtime* for childabuse for letting their kids transistion (or start to transistion) at a young age... and in such cases the kid always ends up in foster care.

In general, times have changed.

As to Ohio, the bible belt state of the north- I really can't say I am surprised... we are, after all, talking about a state that gave Bush his re-election by ensuring there was a gay marriage ban on the ballot... thus mobilizing all the rightiest fundies out in the country and convincing them to come out and vote for the marriage ban (and we can all probably guess who they voted for while they were there :roll: ). This is also a state so transphobic that birth certificates can not be changed or corrected... *ever*- so if your doctor isn't paying attention and checks the wrong box, thats whats on your birth certificate for life. The document can not be changed and there are absolutely no exceptions made, regardless the circumstance. Even in states where they define legal sex status based on bloodwork (and not genitals) this is overkill... I can't think of an other state which flat out refuses to change the documents in cases of obvious clerical error.