allanah star fucks a female to male....but he has a pussy.

[v3.6]

has anyone seen this? i saw the making of it on some playboy video, allanah fucks him hard from what i think i saw, if anyone has any photos could theyplease post them?

[tsntx]

try the search function.. there was a huge topic about this a YEAR ago and allanah commented on it as well... buck angel is his name i beleive.

[MrsKellyPierce]

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=14444&highlight=buck

[phxguy]

A woman fucking a man, what a concept.

[Vala_TS]

I thought Wendy Williams did that, Alannah did to?

I find this disgusting personally, it's just a ploy to try and get more fans by doing something shocking.

Vala,

[AllanahStarrNYC]

I thought Wendy Williams did that, Alannah did to?

I find this disgusting personally, it's just a ploy to try and get more fans by doing something shocking.

Vala,

LOL.

If opening people's mind to new things and being sexually diverse is disgusting then I guess you- a so called TS- since we have never seen a picture of you I am highly speculative and believe you are just some man fantasizing about becoming a TS calling himself a ts online- then you are calling yourself disgusting inderectly. Since you are part of a minority that challenges conventional sex.

Buck Angel is an amazing person. We have a great time doing the shoot and I would do it again. I am very proud to say that we were the first to ever do that on film. I am very proud of that movie. We worked very hard on it. It was nominated for an AVN award for most outrageous sex scene. I was also nominated for an AVN award as performer.

A ploy? Darling, I don't have to have a ploy to gain fans. I have been in this business for five years now and the popularity I have gained has been through my hard work and determination both physically and as a business woman.

It might not be for everyone darling- but really, when you live in a glass house, you should not throw stones. You never known when your own walls will come down on you.

In other words- YOU HAVE A LOT OF NERVE.

[hwbs]

has anyone seen this? i saw the making of it on some playboy video, allanah fucks him hard from what i think i saw, if anyone has any photos could theyplease post them?


many people saw it....the movie was nominated for an AVN...

[hwbs]

I thought Wendy Williams did that, Alannah did to?

I find this disgusting personally, it's just a ploy to try and get more fans by doing something shocking.

Vala,


a typical response from some of the T.I.T. on here.... :x

[MrsKellyPierce]

I would have sex with a female to male...I like woman but I'd rather them look like a hot male with what they have downstairs.

Vala how is it weird? Most of the guys on here like the looks of a woman but the anatomy of a man? Whats the DIFFERENCE??

[v3.6]

okok... i seriously thought it was maybe the most weirdest thing i have ever seen, not weird in a bad way, maybe i should use the word bazzare instead of weird... whats weird anyways.lol. i meen i still to this day dont understand what i saw... medical technology has no boundries these days huh.. ps alanah... kelly.. miss justice.. your all simply adorable.

<3

[MonsieurValentine]

freedom of speech.

[SarahG]

Personally, I would have no reservations being with or dating a ftm.

In a way I can see it having some advantages, since he'd be ts he would understand alot of things that normal guys might not "get" necessarily (and I don't mean that to as an insult to the GBs out there).

[goldensamba]

I thought Wendy Williams did that, Alannah did to?

I find this disgusting personally, it's just a ploy to try and get more fans by doing something shocking.

Vala,

That may well be one of the most ignorant statements ever. THat would be like me saying it discusting for Allanah to have sex with a black woman. But if she has sex with me it's cool cuz I am a black man. See the logic in that? No? Now apply that logic to your own statement.

Oh and Allanah.....anytime you want to test wether I will say something ignorant after we get busy please feel free to test me out. That way we can prove my theory.

GS!

[tsmandy]

Yawn....Vala, really...

I haven't seen Buck's movies but he was hot in person, I'd fuck him. It's 2007 y'all, there's a trans man around every corner (literally in Portland).

[sdman]

has anyone seen this? i saw the making of it on some playboy video, allanah fucks him hard from what i think i saw, if anyone has any photos could theyplease post them?

Yes I saw the clip it was kind of wierd and disgusting and entertaining at the same time.

[hybridx]

I wouldn't mind seeing this. It sems interesting.

<3 Allanah. She's gorgeous!

[TJ347]

Buck Angel is not my cup of tea, but if there are people who like Buck, that's fine by me. That said, I don't see where anybody should jump on someone who says they find the idea of Allanah having sex with Buck disgusting. I mean, I'd think having the right to your opinion would be the last thing that a transsexual board would oppose, and before anyone starts with the "don't judge" and "be more open-minded" crap, just stop. Everyone has their idea of what is attractive, acceptable and so on, and if theirs isn't the same as yours, or if they don't find such a wide variety of things as sexually exciting as you do (like a F to M transsexual), there is nothing wrong with that. So long as they don't advocate violence, leave them the hell alone. If you like Buck, buy Buckback Mountain. But don't try to convince those of us who aren't Buck fans to buy it, or pretend you're somehow superior to us morally because you can find the beauty in a Buck Angel film, because that is complete horseshit.

[LG]

v3.6 wrote:

okok... i seriously thought it was maybe the most weirdest thing i have ever seen, not weird in a bad way, maybe i should use the word bazzare instead of weird...<3

Maybe you shouldn't. Maybe you should use the word "bizarre" which is the one you might find in a dictionary.

Oh I'm sorry, I'm being pedantic again.

Vala_TS wrote:

I thought Wendy Williams did that, Alannah did to?

I find this disgusting personally, it's just a ploy to try and get more fans by doing something shocking.

Vala,

Actually, when I saw the video clip I was intrigued but not really turned on. I disagree with Vala though, because I don't think we should be using the word "disgusting" here. A lot of people find tgirls "disgusting" and we need to go out of our way to stop that kind of thing. An FTM is no different in many ways to an MTF.

Although of course the scene was produced to bring in more fans and to sell more copies of the video. Isn't that the whole point of porn or any other business where something is sold or promoted?

Buck popped by these forums for a short while some years back if I remember rightly. He seemed like a cool guy. I wouldn't buy his videos, but I'm not going to condemn him.

[Xiorc]

Ive never seen AS's vid of this but Ive seen BA here and there on the Internet and I must admit that I was disgusted. I'm not saying that its right or wrong or its perverse or base just that its not my thing. I was never into the post-op T thing anyway, just something about mutilating your body to that extent really turns me off. Yeah I know that T's change, mold, and have their bodies surgically and chemically altered and then some have the SRS surgery, and thats in its own way mutilation but its one of the excepted norms of a t-girls life. But to just have a dude with a pussy is just weird. I just dont See how a man, women, or TS can find this sexually attractive.
But its his body and he can do with it what he wants and if he can make a buck or two from it and hopefully find some strip of happiness in life then do it and do it well.

BTW...
Ive only seen pics of this guy. IS he real?? Meaning does he have a real vagina, surgically placed? Or was he born like that or is it all just a fake??

[TJ347]

Ive only seen pics of this guy. IS he real?? Meaning does he have a real vagina, surgically placed? Or was he born like that or is it all just a fake??

...

[LG]

Xiorc said:
I just dont See how a man, women, or TS can find this sexually attractive.
But you find M2F transexuals attractive, do you not? So, really, is there such a big difference? And after all, don't underestimate what others might be attracted to. To many, our admiration, love and lust for the gurls on this forum might seem like a pretty fucked up thing.


But its his body and he can do with it what he wants and if he can make a buck or two from it and hopefully find some strip of happiness in life then do it and do it well.
Agreed.


BTW...
Ive only seen pics of this guy. IS he real?? Meaning does he have a real vagina, surgically placed? Or was he born like that or is it all just a fake??
He used to be a girl. That's why he has a vagina. Allanah, Vicki, etc were born as boys. That's why they have penises. His vagina is 100% genuine, but the rest of his body has been enhanced by hormones and - I would imagine- a fair degree of surgery.

[scorpion]

Buck angel is not a person in my taste. I have seen him in another movie Circus noir I think the name of the movie was.
Yes he is one type of trans persons wee dont see much of or not at al.
I asked why wee dont see this kind of transexualls persons four a while ago so even if I dont have find non of them sexuall attractive so are they intressting. Good tread.

[TJ347]

Xiorc said:
I just dont See how a man, women, or TS can find this sexually attractive.
But you find M2F transexuals attractive, do you not? So, really, is there such a big difference? And after all, don't underestimate what others might be attracted to. To many, our admiration, love and lust for the gurls on this forum might seem like a pretty fucked up thing.

I think there is a big difference between M2F transsexuals and F2M transsexuals that would obviously turn off most non-TG members of this forum, and it's obvious enough I think that it needn't be pointed out more specifically... and I'm not talking about the lack of a dick either.

[Xiorc]

Xiorc said:
I just dont See how a man, women, or TS can find this sexually attractive.
But you find M2F transexuals attractive, do you not? So, really, is there such a big difference? And after all, don't underestimate what others might be attracted to. To many, our admiration, love and lust for the gurls on this forum might seem like a pretty fucked up thing.


But its his body and he can do with it what he wants and if he can make a buck or two from it and hopefully find some strip of happiness in life then do it and do it well.
Agreed.


BTW...
Ive only seen pics of this guy. IS he real?? Meaning does he have a real vagina, surgically placed? Or was he born like that or is it all just a fake??
He used to be a girl. That's why he has a vagina. Allanah, Vicki, etc were born as boys. That's why they have penises. His vagina is 100% genuine, but the rest of his body has been enhanced by hormones and - I would imagine- a fair degree of surgery.

TJ347 said he was a guy first...now im confused and I will admit though that M2F Transsexuals are more attractive to me but I like the female form even if theres a male organ attached. I do find some of the F2M trans attractive to but BA just looks to masculine and Im just not into the masculine thing....Again right or wrong is never an issue with me, I like Ts's who r feminine others like them more masculine. Thats all.

Now I need to know...was Buck Angel born a guy or a girl???

[TJ347]

He was born a girl. My bad. I got confused. I trust you can understand how that could happen, given the topic being discussed.

[TJ347]

M2F Transsexuals are more attractive to me... I like the female form even if theres a male organ attached... Im just not into the masculine thing...

Summarizing effectively why fans of M2F transsexuals aren't likely to be fans of F2M transsexuals, I believe. Not that this is a scientific survey or anything, but you know...

[LG]

Xiorc said:
I just dont See how a man, women, or TS can find this sexually attractive.
But you find M2F transexuals attractive, do you not? So, really, is there such a big difference? And after all, don't underestimate what others might be attracted to. To many, our admiration, love and lust for the gurls on this forum might seem like a pretty fucked up thing.

I think there is a big difference between M2F transsexuals and F2M transsexuals that would obviously turn off most non-TG members of this forum, and it's obvious enough I think that it needn't be pointed out more specifically... and I'm not talking about the lack of a dick either.

Of course- he looks like a guy, and most men just don't dig other guys. But we're still talking about a person who, realising they were trapped inside the wrong body, has made a concious attempt to become who they always wanted to be. So Buck is as admirable as any TS.

Although Buck isn't my cup of tea, either. But someone out there must be buying the videos. And I am certainly not going to be judgemental or say its gross. Like I said, Buck is as admirable as an TS, regardless of whether I'm attracted to him or (as is the case) not.

I know that you probably agree with me, but some people on these forums do not. I find it a little ironic that a tgirl has actually expressed the opinion that Buck is "disgusting".

[TJ347]

Of course- he looks like a guy, and most men just don't dig other guys. But we're still talking about a person who, realising they were trapped inside the wrong body, has made a concious attempt to become who they always wanted to be. So Buck is as admirable as any TS.

Although Buck isn't my cup of tea, either. But someone out there must be buying the videos. And I am certainly not going to be judgemental or say its gross. Like I said, Buck is as admirable as an TS, regardless of whether I'm attracted to him or (as is the case) not.

I know that you probably agree with me, but some people on these forums do not. I find it a little ironic that a tgirl has actually expressed the opinion that Buck is "disgusting".

Well, philosophically speaking, yes, Buck Angel is as admirable as any TS, regardless of whether anyone finds him attractive or not. But as far as a tgirl saying Buck is disgusting, I understand that. To a tgirl with such an opinion, Buck's transition to a form she has gone through surgery and other means to escape has to be unthinkable, and he could not be seen as anything other than disgusting to her mind because of that. Similarly, I can see how a guy could find Buck disgusting, and I believe it's for the same reason you've pointed out... Buck is a guy, and the guys here (largely) do not find men sexually attractive. To go further, the men here largely think of themselves as not being gay, and do not think of it as gay for them to be attracted to passable tgirls. Thus, tgirls who look masculine are derided, and a transsexual like Buck is thought of as disgusting. Not saying it's right, but I do understand that kind of thinking.

[Xiorc]

Thats funny because my cousin is a female who dresses like men but I know she's a girl yet when I seen buck I was "shocked" to say the least and now even more because I know he was born a girl and she looks so much like a man...tattoo's and facial hair...its amazing in it own way
Talk about speaking in a conundrum's..he is her but she is a man ect..

Anyway
It is weird that a M2F TS would find Buck disgusting especially when F2M TS's preach all about tolerance and acceptance and only 20 min ago I found him disgusting but now Its just amazing thats he's a girl..to me anyway.

[TJ347]

It is weird that a M2F TS would find Buck disgusting especially when F2M TS's preach all about tolerance and acceptance...

I've only been a member for a short while, but I've found all that talk doesn't go as far as most of those espousing it would like to pretend it does. I can't tell you how many times I've expressed an opinion and been told "DON'T JUDGE" and the like, only to have read posts by the same person before and after their "DON'T JUDGE" post where they did nothing but judge people. Just as is the case offline, bullshit abounds. Just remember to bring your waders is the best advice I can give at this point...

[Xiorc]

It is weird that a M2F TS would find Buck disgusting especially when F2M TS's preach all about tolerance and acceptance...

I've only been a member for a short while, but I've found all that talk doesn't go as far as most of those espousing it would like to pretend it does. I can't tell you how many times I've expressed an opinion and been told "DON'T JUDGE" and the like, only to have read posts by the same person before and after their "DON'T JUDGE" post where they did nothing but judge people. Just as is the case offline, bullshit abounds. Just remember to bring your waders is the best advice I can give at this point...

lol

Ill still say that I find him sexually displeasing, it does not turn me on . I have never met him/her nor have I ever had a conversation with him so I dont know what kind of person he/she is. But that goes for all the so called true M2F TS's here! If its them really writing then fine but if its not them...big deal anyway. But I've read some of there replies and was appalled by what they had to say...OH well my Internet feelings were not hurt.

[tsmandy]

Actually, when I saw the video clip I was intrigued but not really turned on. I disagree with Vala though, because I don't think we should be using the word "disgusting" here. A lot of people find tgirls "disgusting" and we need to go out of our way to stop that kind of thing. An FTM is no different in many ways to an MTF.
.

Thanks for saying this LG, this was the only post that didn't make me want to rip my hair out.

Look guys, my best friend is an FTM. Several of my former lovers are FTM's. I've been through some serious shit with some beautiful people, and I think describing FTM's as "disgusting" is messed up. And seriously, I've been on the other end of the coin so many times, and it sucks.

Ignorant douchebags.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

It is weird that a M2F TS would find Buck disgusting especially when F2M TS's preach all about tolerance and acceptance...

I've only been a member for a short while, but I've found all that talk doesn't go as far as most of those espousing it would like to pretend it does. I can't tell you how many times I've expressed an opinion and been told "DON'T JUDGE" and the like, only to have read posts by the same person before and after their "DON'T JUDGE" post where they did nothing but judge people. Just as is the case offline, bullshit abounds. Just remember to bring your waders is the best advice I can give at this point...

lol

Ill still say that I find him sexually displeasing, it does not turn me on . I have never met him/her nor have I ever had a conversation with him so I dont know what kind of person he/she is. But that goes for all the so called true M2F TS's here! If its them really writing then fine but if its not them...big deal anyway. But I've read some of there replies and was appalled by what they had to say...OH well my Internet feelings were not hurt.

Why do you keep on calling him a she? Is your mind so closed that you cant see that he is a transsexual and expresses his gender as male- therefore u should use the refer to him in the masculine?

Give him the same respect you would give any female to male transsexual. Find him sexually displeasing all you like- but don't act like a moron.

[Vicki Richter]

Buck is 110% man. The scene may be perverse by societal standards, but it was innovative.

What if all men had pussies and all women had cocks but everything else was the same. Men continued to be stronger, better paid, full of testosterone, etc.

In some alternate universe perhaps...

[Coroner]

I had to laugh about the "Buckback Mountain" banner above. :lol:

[Pacman]

What if all men had pussies and all women had cocks...

Now that's a scary thought. lol

[TJ347]

I think describing FTM's as "disgusting" is messed up. And seriously, I've been on the other end of the coin so many times, and it sucks.
Ignorant douchebags.

I think describing people who have opinions that differ from yours as "ignorant douchebags" is "messed up", as well as counterproductive. As I've said elsewhere, if others like something I don't like, like F2M transsexuals, then good for them. But the whole "I'm morally superior to you, because I can appreciate a Buck Angel film" crap is just a load of bullshit. Just as you have a right to like Buck Angel, I have a right to like what I like, and to call what I don't like "disgusting" if that's how I feel about it. You might want me to use another word, but if "disgusting" is the word I choose to use, then that word fits for me, and I am under no obligation to change it because you would rather I did, and all the "ignorant douchebags" you can throw at me aren't going to change that. It isn't "closed-minded" in the least if someone doesn't find F2M transsexuals appealing... It's just not their particular interest. I might not like the music you like... am I "close-minded" or an "ignorant douchebag" because of that? Note, I'm not one of the people who have called Buck "disgusting". I'm just a guy who's sick of the double standard that exists when it comes to some TGs on this board making judgements of what's acceptable and what isn't, versus the rest of us, who clearly aren't allowed to do the same thing. As I said before, bullshit abounds...

[tsmandy]

I think describing people who have opinions that differ from yours as "ignorant douchebags" is "messed up", as well as counterproductive. As I've said elsewhere, if others like something I don't like, like F2M transsexuals, then good for them. But the whole "I'm morally superior to you, because I can appreciate a Buck Angel film" crap is just a load of bullshit.

Counterproductive maybe, definitely cathartic. I don't give a shit about morals, yours or mine. I just don't like hearing trans peoples bodies referred to as disgusting. Transitioning is an intensely difficult choice, and it can really fuck with your self confidence. It takes a lot of us years to learn to love ourselves even if we may be different. And I don't like people being put down for that, and described as disgusting.

In the future when I think people are being assholes I'll keep it to myself. But I'll still think you're a bunch of mean spirited self absorbed assholes.

[trannybanger]

I saw in another post that Buck was actually a very attractive woman in the past, does anyone have pics? I am just curious because he looks like a pretty hard masculine dude now.

[TJ347]

Counterproductive maybe, definitely cathartic. I don't give a shit about morals, yours or mine. I just don't like hearing trans peoples bodies referred to as disgusting. Transitioning is an intensely difficult choice, and it can really fuck with your self confidence. It takes a lot of us years to learn to love ourselves even if we may be different. And I don't like people being put down for that, and described as disgusting.

In the future when I think people are being assholes I'll keep it to myself. But I'll still think you're a bunch of mean spirited self absorbed assholes.

From what I can tell, one of the problems that always comes up in the more contentious topics like this one is that people are unable to make both make their point and respect those of others which differ, without resorting to name calling and the like. What you need to understand is that no one is talking about you and the difficulties you might have had transitioning, being accepted by your family as a transgendered person, etcetera, or making an attack on the transgendered community. So don't take a comment made about whether someone finds Buck physically unappealing as a comment about you personally, and flashback to unpleasant days in your past. It's not only not about you, but it's not about Buck even... It's about the people making the comments, and what they do and don't find physically attractive. I mean, you're defending whether Buck should be considered an attractive porn star for goodness sake, as if everyone has the same tastes! Please, come off it!

[tsmandy]

From what I can tell, one of the problems that always comes up in the more contentious topics like this one is that people are unable to make both make their point and respect those of others which differ, without resorting to name calling and the like. What you need to understand is that no one is talking about you and the difficulties you might have had transitioning, being accepted by your family as a transgendered person, etcetera, or making an attack on the transgendered community. So don't take a comment made about whether someone finds Buck physically unappealing as a comment about you personally, and flashback to unpleasant days in your past. It's not only not about you, but it's not about Buck even... It's about the people making the comments, and what they do and don't find physically attractive. I mean, you're defending whether Buck should be considered an attractive porn star for goodness sake, as if everyone has the same tastes! Please, come off it!

Umm thanks for pointing out the error of my anger. Look Vala said it was disgusting that Allanah made a movie with Buck, a ploy if you will. Why having sex with anybody would be "disgusting" is beyond me. If the issue is only that some of you guys don't find Buck hot, whatever, I don't give a shit about that. If the issue however, is deeper, and involves the threat that a guy like Buck delivers to HA dudes concepts of gender and masculinity, and then results in FTM's as a class of people being described as disgusting, that's where I get upset.

Anyways, It's my birthday and I should be out having fun instead of squabbling with strangers.

xoxo

[NYCe]

Anyways, It's my birthday and I should be out having fun instead of squabbling with strangers.

xoxo


Happy Birthday.

[crayons]

Buck Adams is a man, so if Buck Adams and Kelly Shore had sex it would be considered gay sex because Kelly Shore is a man too.

[TJ347]

Crayons... Come on. It's one thing to challenge somebody on whether or not they're being truthful, but to call a transsexual woman a man is hitting way below the belt, unless you know something that no one else appears to know... which I'm pretty sure isn't the case. We need to draw the line somewhere...

[tgirl in platform heels]

i may sound uneducated on this matter but does bucks vagina, well, work as normal? what i mean is does it dry up easily, remain very tight, etc?

[blackrob]

I thought Wendy Williams did that, Alannah did to?

I find this disgusting personally, it's just a ploy to try and get more fans by doing something shocking.

Vala,


yes it is disgusting

[natina]

HOWARD STERN is a shock jock


STERN ON LETTERMAN

http://images.scripting.com/archiveScriptingCom/2005/01/05/SternonLetterman.jpg


I thought Wendy Williams did that, Alannah did to?

I find this disgusting personally, it's just a ploy to try and get more fans by doing something shocking.

Vala,

[dgs925]

yes it is disgusting

You brought this thread back from the dead without actually having anything to say? wtf

[AllanahStarrNYC]

LOL.

What the hell?