The Who

[johnie]

i think they were just performing at the borgata in Atlantic city. Man i love them too! even though i was born in the 80s!

[DJ_Asia]

Was Keith Moon the best drummer in the world????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD_VxQS7Ae8

Not even close...in my late teens and early 20's(back when Mammoths roamed the icy tundra) I used to play the drums so i know a bit.
Moonie was nuts and his roadies used to crawl under the kit during concerts to give him injections of a special "pick me up" cocktail...doubt highly it was Vitamin B or ginsing....for sheer maniacal enery...sure...for talent...no!

Best drummers...Jazz has/had some amazing talent but comparing Buddy Rich to Moon is like comparing wine and beer....

For rock drummers my favs were...

Neil Peart (Rush)
Dave Barbarosa (Bow Wow Wow)
David Robinson (Cars)
Elvis Ramone AKA Clem Burke(Ramones,Blondie)
John Bonham (Zeppelin)

and a special queso shout out to former Exciter drummer/singer Dan Beehler who could thunder a flawless double bass kick roll while screaming his ass off at the same time...no easy feat!

[Kriss]

For rock drummers my favs were...
Neil Peart (Rush)
Dave Barbarosa (Bow Wow Wow)
David Robinson (Cars)
Elvis Ramone AKA Clem Burke(Ramones,Blondie)
John Bonham (Zeppelin)

DONT
What about Ginger Baker?
QUOTE

Buddy Rich
ME
Yep. Miles LOVED Buddy Rich! Was he involved with Band of gypsies?
COS
What about your Jazz herores? There are some real nutters in jazz
Peter Erskine (when in weather report, FURIOUS double bass drum, check live album 8.30, 4 peice band, no percussionist needed with Erskine)
Trilok Gurtu (no kick in his kit, kneels and uses a floor tom style bass drum)
Jack dejonette (miles loved this guy, real finess on the 'hats', the stamina daddy)
I'M
Ska & Reggae?
LLoyd Knibbs - the original skatalite, 70 odd and still a nutter, just gets faster with age
Leroy 'horsemouth' wallace - "you gotta lick up the chalice in the palace like mr Wallace as I would say"
CLOSE
Who was the Drummer in 'The Meters'?
TO THE EDGE!

[jiggly]

Was Keith Moon the best drummer in the world????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD_VxQS7Ae8

I second the vote for bonham

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRuTcnd8YLU


And since im not such a big fan of the who.... especially keith moon, I am going to go as far as saying rick allen (after the accident) is better than keith moon.

[DJ_Asia]

For rock drummers my favs were...
Neil Peart (Rush)
Dave Barbarosa (Bow Wow Wow)
David Robinson (Cars)
Elvis Ramone AKA Clem Burke(Ramones,Blondie)
John Bonham (Zeppelin)

DONT
What about Ginger Baker?
QUOTE

Buddy Rich
ME
Yep. Miles LOVED Buddy Rich! Was he involved with Band of gypsies?
COS
What about your Jazz herores? There are some real nutters in jazz
Peter Erskine (when in weather report, FURIOUS double bass drum, check live album 8.30, 4 peice band, no percussionist needed with Erskine)
Trilok Gurtu (no kick in his kit, kneels and uses a floor tom style bass drum)
Jack dejonette (miles loved this guy, real finess on the 'hats', the stamina daddy)
I'M
Ska & Reggae?
LLoyd Knibbs - the original skatalite, 70 odd and still a nutter, just gets faster with age
Leroy 'horsemouth' wallace - "you gotta lick up the chalice in the palace like mr Wallace as I would say"
CLOSE
Who was the Drummer in 'The Meters'?
TO THE EDGE!

Im not schooled enough on jazz drummers to discuss it further than saying Ive heard some jazz chops that made me say..."yo man can you please rewind that?"...tech stuff indeed...

No Buddy Rich was never in B.O.G w/ Hendrix...youre thinking of Buddy Miles

[TJT]

I was at the infamous Cincy show. Surreal. Most of the crowd didn't know anything had happened until the show was over and we saw all the reporters and cops.

[ezed]

I saw him in his second to last concert. He was great, when he died The Who died. They did Eminence Front but it wasn't the same. This was my generation. Jon Bonham was good also! Buddy Miles also. But a special tip of the hat to Gene Kruppa. Who knows who was the best, they're all excellent.

[MacShreach]

Big shout for Ginger Baker over here too. Listen to some of the stuff he did with Jack Bruce, especially live....It's amazing. The Cream's "Crossroads" is a defining rock track for me.

Course these guys were actually jazzers who crossed over into rock; they were used to syncopation and moving around time signatures, something a lot of "straight" rock guys have trouble with.

Moonie was all flash-- he was perfect for The Who, but that's not the same as saying he was the greatest drummer ever. BTW I've seen The Who I dunno, seven or eight times and they definitely are a LOT quieter now than they were in the 70's.

I really like Charlie Watts, BTW, who hasn't been mentioned yet-- terrrific ability to deal with different musical styles.

It's a bit OT but I still think Roger Daltrey is one of the best white male rock singers EVER. Still out there doing it, and still a great voice at what, sixty? And he hasn't throttled back. That's great technique. Lots of guys can scream but listen to Daltrey's pitching-- flawless, even at full belt. Takes some doing, especially with a monster band like The Who behind him.

Anyhoo...

[suckseed]

Cosign on Moon, Peart and Bonham! I'd add a name to that list: Bill Bruford.

Allow me to go on what may seem to be an irrelevant rant - but if you check out an album called 'One Of A Kind', by Bruford (which was the name of a group he led during a break in the King Crimson years) - you'll be listening to an album unlike any I've ever heard. It's like Mahavishnu, but with the power and sonic boom of Rush. If you check out the clips, please make allowances for the crappy quality...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SSM-jMMuoiU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iJN9lTZyQ2I
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PGCVk-M7j3U

A King Crimson clip:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tZbOdgevxDE

And in the 'You don't see this every day' category...a toy vw bus plays a yes record...sorta.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ELCwua_d9Dk

[GroobySteven]

I think Cream and The Stones referred to themselves as more Bluesmen than Jazz, which is why they're earliest playing were covers of wellknown Blues songs, introduced to the UK. It was this movement that brought Hendrix to the UK - also a Blues player (Chas Chandler from the Animals helped bring him over - an awesome band).

I'd have to put a vote in for Kenny Jones of The Faces - one of my favourite bands and greeeeeeeeat drums.

Moon was perfect for The Who whom I've seen a couple of times - their latest album was great BTW but Zack Starkey (Ringo's son) is also excellent.

seanchai

[ILuvGurls]

I saw them in Tampa a week or so ago. It was the makeup show for the one that got canceled a couple weeks earlier. It was a good show although the guy I went with has seen them many times and said it was one of the quietier Who shows he had seen.

i realize you were not born then, but should have seen them in the '70s.
saw them in the old omni in atlanta in 1979? could not hear for 2 days.

[chefmike]

My only claim to fame, my dad was in the crowd when they performed in Leeds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_Leeds

Amazing. When I noticed a thread about The Who I was going to mention that I always felt that they were the original garage rock/punk band...and 'Live at Leeds' is a perfect example...when people mention the Beatles or the Stones only when referring to the early Brit rock legends, I always bring up The Who...

[bklynboy]

If you loved Moon, check out the Who's version of Under My Thumb. Its a rarety but one of the best cuts they ever had.

[thorn]

Goddamnit! I must be the oldest motherf****er on this board!! However, I saw the Who at the Fillmopre East in 1970 when they were introducing their brand new project Tommy to the Styates. Great show, but though Moonie was perfect for the chaos of the Who, he was not all that good a drummer. Props to Peart, Bruford and the much underrated Stewart Copland from the Police( even if he did speed up by the end of every tune).

[thorn]

Sorry for all the typos.

[bklynboy]

For all of you who want to hear the ho shows at the Filmore - go to www.wolfgangsvault.com. You will be amazed.

[chefmike]

I'll check that out, anything from the Fillmore East or West by anybody is fucking priceless!