Attn: Certain Men

[MrsKellyPierce]

I was ordered to do this lol in reply from Kelly to the guys calling her face plastic and fake. She took this pic for those individuals, she also sent this reply in her email to me.

Dear Men,

I was saddened to see the hate I got on the board. Mainly for the fact I have nothing hanging between my legs anymore. If I had had something there in my video posting and pics the reactions would of been very different. I am post-op woman, but I still have feelings. I have never hid the fact of my transition. It was not only absurd but slander to suggest I've had many plastic surgeries done. My life has been aired from the time I was sixteen year of age.

If you want the hate to stop or the embarassment you have of loving transexualism, lets first start in our own community. Stop giving grief to post-ops as well as transvestites and crossdressers. We need a better understanding and patience from one another, before we ask others that don't understand us.

Kiss Kiss
Kel

Dutch Version:

Beste Mensen,

Ik werd bedroeft om de haat te zien die ik op de raad heb gekregen. Hoofdzakelijk voor het feit heb ik niets die tussen mijn benen meer hangt. Als ik iets daar in mijn het video posten had gehad en pics de reacties van zeer verschillend. Ik ben vrouw post-op, maar ik heb nog gevoel. Ik heb verborg nooit het feit van mijn overgang. Het was niet alleen absurd maar laster voor te stellen ik vele plastic gedaane chirurgie heb gehad. Mijn leven is gelucht van de tijd ik zestien jaar oud was. Als u de haat wilt ophouden of embarassment u van het houden van van transexualism hebt, laat eerste begin in onze eigen gemeenschap. Houd op gevend zorg aan post-ops-post evenals travestieten en crossdressers. Wij hebben een beter begrip en een geduld nodig van elkaar, alvorens wij anderen vragen die ons niet begrijpen.

Kus Kus
Kel

[Legend]

Kelly please tell me you didn't go back and tell her what a couple of idiots said about her on here did you?

[MrsKellyPierce]

Kelly please tell me you didn't go back and tell her what a couple of idiots said about her on here did you? No she read it herself. As I said in another post, a lot of girls lurk the boards.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Legend I am friends with Kelly, I met her while she was staying in Tampa. She's trying to make it over in the states, she has gone to a few casting calls. She hasn't said how things went, but she went back to Holland for her book and other things she's working on. Like the Dancing On Ice series. I think she is doing a car makeover show or something at the moment. Darlene had her at her club..Flirt in Ybor City. I think there are still pics of her and I and just her being there. She was actually considering being a guest speaker at St. Pete PRIDE this past summer, but she had to leave back to home for these projects.

[jefferson1776]

she achieved her dream, shes beautiful, who would insult her? out of envy?

[MrsKellyPierce]

she achieved her dream, shes beautiful, who would insult her? out of envy? read this thread

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=17158

[Legend]

Legend I am friends with Kelly, I met her while she was staying in Tampa. She's trying to make it over in the states, she has gone to a few casting calls. She hasn't said how things went, but she went back to Holland for her book and other things she's working on. Like the Dancing On Ice series. I think she is doing a car makeover show or something at the moment. Darlene had her at her club..Flirt in Ybor City. I think there are still pics of her and I and just her being there. She was actually considering being a guest speaker at St. Pete PRIDE this past summer, but she had to leave back to home for these projects.

oh ok i understand you not wanting anyone to bad mouth your dear freind but i thought you directed her to those nasty comments but from your words she saw them herself.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Legend I am friends with Kelly, I met her while she was staying in Tampa. She's trying to make it over in the states, she has gone to a few casting calls. She hasn't said how things went, but she went back to Holland for her book and other things she's working on. Like the Dancing On Ice series. I think she is doing a car makeover show or something at the moment. Darlene had her at her club..Flirt in Ybor City. I think there are still pics of her and I and just her being there. She was actually considering being a guest speaker at St. Pete PRIDE this past summer, but she had to leave back to home for these projects.

oh ok i understand you not wanting anyone to bad mouth your dear freind but i thought you directed her to those nasty comments but from your words she saw them herself. yes she asked me to post that video link on here, then she monitored the thread to see people's reactions. She was surprised and taken aback.

[Master_A]

not surprising, you look at the first pic then the 2nd she looks 50 an no wrinkles, looks like botox more than plastic.

[MrsKellyPierce]

not surprising, you look at the first pic then the 2nd she looks 50 an no wrinkles, looks like botox more than plastic. You're so stupid she looks the same basically

[Master_A]

i believe the rabbi in lucky number slevin said it best.

"if someone calls you a horse you punch them in the nose, if someone calls you a horse a second time, well maybe its time to buy a saddle".

[MrsKellyPierce]

i believe the rabbi in lucky number slevin said it best.

"if someone calls you a horse you punch them in the nose, if someone calls you a horse a second time, well maybe its time to buy a saddle". She has no wrinkles?? She looks good with out her make up..if there were wrinkles the sun was probably in her eye or they caught her off guard. You're just stupid.

[Somedude21]

Ignore him, Kelly. He's just trying to get a rile out of you and possibly even the other Kelly, too.

[Kabuki]

Kelly is an attractive woman with or without makeup. I don't know what these other people see on their computer. I see an attractive individual. I especially enjoy the photos where she's natural. Women who look good without makeup are a treasure. I doubt all the critiques could say their negative comments to her face. Stop hiding behind the internet people. I don't know why so many people feel the need to insult others.

[Legend]

not surprising, you look at the first pic then the 2nd she looks 50 an no wrinkles, looks like botox more than plastic.

"The weakness of ourselves and of our reason makes us see flaws in beauties by making us consider everything piece by piece."
Johann G. Hamann

[Kriss]

A load of shit AS USUAL

PEOPLE! PLEASE do not give any attention to Master Bates or whatever his name is. He has already proved himself an idiot and a compulsive wind up merchant(??pot/kettle?) . Master Bates will talk shit as long as we will reply and feed his vampiric need for angry responses. Some people are just nasty for the sake of it, it is a sport to them, ignore these hating fools and they will just wither and die without the oxygen of our attention. (i may be annoying , but never nasty. I am chivalrously aggrovating)

[Master_A]

im stupid, you believe your own hype, you shouldnt be called kelly, you should be called tupac.

go back to your drugs sumeone drugo.

really orginial kriss, go back to fucking your camel.

[MrsKellyPierce]

im stupid, you believe your own hype, you shouldnt be called kelly, you should be called tupac.

go back to your drugs sumeone drugo.

really orginial kriss, go back to fucking your camel. lol I don't even drink much less do drugs

[Master_A]

i didnt say you did.

[Ibrar]

i really don't get what people have the problem with. The lady has gone ot of her way to make statements and show pictures to people who she thinks will appreciate.

if some people don't like it, there is no need to slate that person - after all, its easy to say things from behind a computer, as you are not the one being criticised.

comments like the ones people have made are very hurtful, and these are the last things i expected from an online community dedicated to tgirls. it's a little disappointing.

these girls are going out of there way and are being nice to us, so why pay them back in such a way? its beyond me :(

[praetor]

Kelly r u a angel? U r so beautiful, so pretty, married or single?

Kisses from Rio.

[lisaparadise]

A load of shit AS USUAL

PEOPLE! PLEASE do not give any attention to Master Bates or whatever his name is. He has already proved himself an idiot and a compulsive wind up merchant(??pot/kettle?) . Master Bates will talk shit as long as we will reply and feed his vampiric need for angry responses. Some people are just nasty for the sake of it, it is a sport to them, ignore these hating fools and they will just wither and die without the oxygen of our attention. (i may be annoying , but never nasty. I am chivalrously aggrovating)who is the idiot on your avitar i find it very offensive and sick

[Rocky]

Kelly's isnt hosting any car show on tv at the moment. Im from Holland myself. She does a cam show sometimes in the evening here. Pretty neat.
I go on there sometimes.

Kelly, dont mind what they are saying, you look beautiful, like always...

[Urian]

Kelly is a very beatiful woman and please stop talking about the therm Post-Op because is degrading and insulting to ex-transsexual women.

Yesterday we were talking about Kelly Van der Veer and she said to me "I cannot understant why she being a complete woman now needs to go with the Post-Op transsexual stigma, she is another woman, a very pretty woman".

I can understand the fact that a lot of men on this forum to the Pre-Op Transsexual people and I believe that is a lack of respect how they attack Tgirls who go with the SRS for become complete girls, they cannot blame them for this, is pathetic.

See me, I am 24 years old with a marriage of 4 years with a woman who was a transsexual until the 20 years old, I know her since we were 17 years and I have lived her transition, I can respect the decision of some Post-Op women to say "I was a Transsexual" but I cannot understand it, they have right to be complete women and are complete women now and with all the "I was a transsexual woman before" they could hurt their future partners.

[werwt22]

1. Well she looks good regardless of what anyone says
2. Assholes are everywhere internet and RL
3. When you put yourself out in the open you have to be open to criticism.
4. My number is 683-555-2945 LOL jk

[muhmuh]

well ... wellcome to the darker realms of ha where a whole bunch of idiots meets to slag off (made worse through kelly letting herself get provoked into a mud flinging match ... again)

oh and about that first pic ... less really is more make up wise

[MrsKellyPierce]

i really don't get what people have the problem with. The lady has gone ot of her way to make statements and show pictures to people who she thinks will appreciate.

if some people don't like it, there is no need to slate that person - after all, its easy to say things from behind a computer, as you are not the one being criticised.

comments like the ones people have made are very hurtful, and these are the last things i expected from an online community dedicated to tgirls. it's a little disappointing.

these girls are going out of there way and are being nice to us, so why pay them back in such a way? its beyond me :( EXACTLY

[MrsKellyPierce]

Kelly r u a angel? U r so beautiful, so pretty, married or single?

Kisses from Rio. lol Kelly has a man

[MrsKellyPierce]

Kelly's isnt hosting any car show on tv at the moment. Im from Holland myself. She does a cam show sometimes in the evening here. Pretty neat.
I go on there sometimes.

Kelly, dont mind what they are saying, you look beautiful, like always... No she just made an appearance on the show.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Kelly is a very beatiful woman and please stop talking about the therm Post-Op because is degrading and insulting to ex-transsexual women.

Yesterday we were talking about Kelly Van der Veer and she said to me "I cannot understant why she being a complete woman now needs to go with the Post-Op transsexual stigma, she is another woman, a very pretty woman".

I can understand the fact that a lot of men on this forum to the Pre-Op Transsexual people and I believe that is a lack of respect how they attack Tgirls who go with the SRS for become complete girls, they cannot blame them for this, is pathetic.

See me, I am 24 years old with a marriage of 4 years with a woman who was a transsexual until the 20 years old, I know her since we were 17 years and I have lived her transition, I can respect the decision of some Post-Op women to say "I was a Transsexual" but I cannot understand it, they have right to be complete women and are complete women now and with all the "I was a transsexual woman before" they could hurt their future partners. Urian thats how Kelly refers to herself, she is very proud of the fact she is a transexual and has made it in the business. Thats from her. I never refer to transexuals as transexuals lol in person just on this board..I usually just say Hey girl or What's up woman.

[FiremanforTS]

Just to set the record straight, there are many guys on here that have NEVER said a nasty word about anyone.

More hate the nastiness on here then like it.

:?

[MrsKellyPierce]

Just to set the record straight, there are many guys on here that have NEVER said a nasty word about anyone.

More hate the nastiness on here then like it.

:? thats why the thread was entitled "CERTAIN"

[FiremanforTS]

Wasn't a knock on you Kelly. It just seems that more and more there is some kind of generalization involving the guys on here.

Maybe I just need to go drink a rockstar and go for a run.

[Kriss]

show pictures to people who she thinks will appreciate.
comments like the ones people have made are very hurtful, and these are the last things i expected from an online community dedicated to tgirls. it's a little disappointing.(

The thing is that this site is 95% idiot cock bandits. I'm sorry , but it is true. The guys here on Hung Angels may be well meaning but they are idiots and have no sensitivity to how girls will take their petty critisism. No disrespect to Kelly Van Der Veer but what was she thinking? This site is ALL about COCK! True, there is a lot of GOOD debate AND even intelligent posts here at H.A but this is really by accident rather than design i feel. To my eyes This site exists to promote TS PORN(pre-op) and ESCORTS (again pre-op), The debate, TS 'issues' and 'community' side of the site seems to exist in tandem , parrellel to and almost DESPITE the "who's cock is biggest" posts.
This is a great excuse to rant on about Kelly Shore. Basically K S put a lot of energy into being nice, freindly and especially popular. Nice girl but really i think she sees this as a 'freinds' or 'networking' site like myspace rather than the cyber-flesh market that it really is. I really thought KS was well meaning but mistaken if she feels that posting pics of Kelly Van Der Veer is being helpful to a friend, she will only be disappointed by the reactions from the moronic, spiteful sick bastards that frequent this site.
DO not forget that MANY ts women have FAKE profiles here and regularly post thier snipes and digs 'undercover' so as to seem like guys. It's quite easy to tell sometimes, the sniping girls always give themselves away by being too witty(no man is that sharp) or they TRY to sound ignorant like a man but go too far. I actually like the way that some of the girls here at H.A. have almost INFILTRATED and SUBVERTED the board by posting interesting and intelligent topics and responses. One side-effect of this is that some "faceless cock-bandits" like me want less and less to do with porn and escorts with every informative and honest post we read by the object of our affections, the girls. Since i been visiting H.A. i almost stopped watching porno altogether and i know some guys feel the same. Ironically, the more i read/learn, the LESS likely I am to buy the porn which surely is what keeps the site alive.
:shrug

[Kriss]

who is the idiot on your avitar i find it very offensive and sick

Who me? That is just some old nutter i found on google images, just searched for "shaking fist" and chose the first beligerent ranter i saw. Sorry, do you KNOW him? IT'S a JOKE. it's all a fuckin' joke. or is it? i can't tell anymore. I just can't bear to see my ghastly visage puncturing my cortex every time i scroll past one of my (excessive)posts. It seems fucking stupid for me to put a pretty girl's pic there. My pics are available to all to see in the personal gallery, I just don't want to have to look at my ugly mug every time i post.
I just realised. Is this a 'fist' thing? Can't say anything on this site without someone reading too much into it. Everyone is bloody Finbar Saunders! O.K. ill spell it out AGAIN. the fist is like a "and i would have got away with it if it wasn't for you pesky meddling kids" type of shaking fist, remember scooby doo? The 'fist' has nothing to do with any 'fist' O.K.?

THEN I FOUND THIS.....

,what the hell is this world coming to its bad enough we have 30 000 wannabee terrerist with hankies on there heads living amonst us

Oh dear. Your question makes sense now. you hate all arabs and muslims don't you? Wise up girl, the terrorists are in the white house, Don't make me send you to chefmike for 'extra tuition'. Are you related to W.M.C. by any chance?


degrading and insulting to ex-transsexual women.

I always try to refer to people as they wish but "EX-TRANSEXUAL WOMAN"?
I think that is a step too far. It just doesn't make any sense. "EX"????????
I think a sign of respect is to not pretend that people are this or that and ACCEPT them as the are. I do not see POST -OP TS WOMEN as "EX-BOYS" so to insist that i call her "EX-TRANSEXUAL " is patronising and stupid.
Do you say "without milk" when orderiong a coffee in case you offend anyone with the word BLACK?
Jesus christ, we are walking on eggshells as it is


I can understand the fact that a lot of men on this forum to the Pre-Op Transsexual people

And this sentance doesn't even make sense. I think you forgot to include a word or two , no?


3. When you put yourself out in the open you have to be open to criticism.

You do look like you are posting from the tora-bora caves

[suckseed]

I'm a bit late to this thread - but it seems like this Master Asshole guy needs to get bent.
Kriss, you make a good point about the dual nature of the board - and knowing what the women here have been through makes me feel a lot less likely to objectify them.
Sorry your friend got her feelings hurt, kelly. I think she is beautiful and accomplished.
Anyone who gives a transsexual woman shit for going postop is pathetic. It's like getting rid of your dog when it's no longer a puppy. Weak.

[peggygee]

show pictures to people who she thinks will appreciate.
comments like the ones people have made are very hurtful, and these are the last things i expected from an online community dedicated to tgirls. it's a little disappointing.(

The thing is that this site is 95% idiot cock bandits. I'm sorry , but it is true. The guys here on Hung Angels may be well meaning but they are idiots and have no sensitivity to how girls will take their petty critisism. No disrespect to Kelly Van Der Veer but what was she thinking?

This site is ALL about COCK! True, there is a lot of GOOD debate AND even intelligent posts here at H.A but this is really by accident rather than design i feel. To my eyes This site exists to promote TS PORN(pre-op) and ESCORTS (again pre-op), The debate, TS 'issues' and 'community' side of the site seems to exist in tandem , parrellel to and almost DESPITE the "who's cock is biggest" posts.

This is a great excuse to rant on about Kelly Shore. Basically K S put a lot of energy into being nice, freindly and especially popular. Nice girl but really i think she sees this as a 'freinds' or 'networking' site like myspace rather than the cyber-flesh market that it really is. I really thought KS was well meaning but mistaken if she feels that posting pics of Kelly Van Der Veert is being helpful to a friend, she will only be disappointed by the reactions from the moronic, spiteful sick bastards that frequent this site.
DO noit forget that MANY ts women have FAKE profiles here and regularly post thier snipes and digs 'undercover' so as to seem like guys. It's quite easy to tell sometimes, the sniping girls always give themselves away by being too witty(no man is that sharp) or they TRY to sound ignorant like a man but go too far.

I actually like the way that some girls have almost INFILTRATED and TAKEN OVER the board by posting interesting and intelligent topics and respoonses. One side-effect of this is that some "faceless cock-bandits" like me want less and less to do with porn and escorts with every informative and honest post we read by the object of our affections, the girls. Since i been visiting H.A. i almost stopped watching porno altogether and i know some guys feel the same. Ironically, the more i read/learn, the LESS likely I am to buy the porn which surely is what keeps the site alive. :shrug

We just got the intel on this situation. http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/RadarTest.jpg

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=17158

That along with the statement above has us highly concerned, and
we are working aggressively and expeditiously on the appropriate level
of response.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/office_datacenter_5x3.jpg

With all sincerity, we truly value your speaking out on this and
other related mattters. http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/thumbsup.gif

[crayons]

Who cares what other people think? Not everyone is going to agree on everything so it's a little juvenile to start defending oneself because you didn't recieve the comments you expected.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Kriss Kelly asked me to do this I didn't go behind her back she watched the thread. Some guys here are into post ops not every guy just like PRE-OPS

[suckseed]

Crayons' point is valid - however - I'm on a musical forum which has members of widely varying degrees of talent and accomplishment. Some of the members have made recordings that everyone here has heard. They're akin to the Allanahs and Vickis here. It's common for people to put up links for songs they have written, performed on, and/or recorded or produced. You can imagine the potential for flaming - but it NEVER happens. Criticism is constructive, and if a song isn't someone's cup of tea, they keep it to themselves by and large. 'Master A' (ha!) and his type go beyond stating opinions. It's unnecessary and it's cruelty for kicks. And I say it's bullshit and brings down the board.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Crayons' point is valid - however - I'm on a musical forum which has members of widely varying degrees of talent and accomplishment. Some of the members have made recordings that everyone here has heard. They're akin to the Allanahs and Vickis here. It's common for people to put up links for songs they have written, performed on, and/or recorded or produced. You can imagine the potential for flaming - but it NEVER happens. Criticism is constructive, and if a song isn't someone's cup of tea, they keep it to themselves by and large. 'Master A' (ha!) and his type go beyond stating opinions. It's unnecessary and it's cruelty for kicks. And I say it's bullshit and brings down the board. Agreed with that!!

[Kriss]

Kriss Kelly asked me to do this I didn't go behind her back she watched the thread.

I KNOW that. please re-read my posts as i did NOT imply anywhere that it was done without permission. why would i imply that? YOU stated in the FIRST post that you were REQUESTED to do this so why would I say otherwise? do you assume that i did not read your original post in this topic? Really I only mentioned you as someone UTILISING this site for something POSITIVE , something OTHER than PORNO or meeting 'clients'. Really Kelly, I wholeheartedly SUPPORT your "isn't my freind pretty?" topics. I am just saying that this site will provoke confused and somewhat insensitive comments as many guys here have a LOT TO LEARN and are currently fixated by cock. I suspect that Guys that are not fixated by cock tend to visit OTHER sites and forums or even have exiting, fulfilling lives to live.
Kelly, you post here for the 'community', this is evident and I APPLAUD that (even tho I call SOME topics vacuous), but good or bad, the site is called HUNG angels for a reason. AGAIN , to be SUPER CLEAR, I NEVER suggested that the pics of Ms Van Der Veer were posted without consent. I only said that she shouldn't be too suprised when the crowd here don't know how to react with respect and sensitivity to the feelings of others.
Now you KNOW I have no time for the haters like master a. You KNOW that I totally respect and support all TS women, pre OR post op. If it was links posted WITHOUT permission OR of someone I know I would have had a fit, YOU KNOW THAT KELLY. I never attacked Kelly V's original decision to post (Hi schatje), Just don't like to see you girls get upset by a few fools that post childish comments.


Some guys here are into post ops not every guy just like PRE-OPS

Sorry I wasn't clear enough. I assumed that you Knew that I agree with you on this point, have you actually read any of my posts?

[Ecstatic]

We just got the intel on this situation. http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/RadarTest.jpg

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=17158

That along with the statement above has us highly concerned, and
we are working aggressively and expeditiously on the appropriate level
of response.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/office_datacenter_5x3.jpg

With all sincerity, we truly value your speaking out on this and
other related mattters. http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/thumbsup.gif
Peggy, if you keep this up you're going to oust Felicia as the quickest wit in the west on HA! :D :lol:

[Kriss]

This site is ALL about COCK! True, there is a lot of GOOD debate AND even intelligent posts here at H.A but this is really by accident rather than design i feel. To my eyes This site exists to promote TS PORN(pre-op) and ESCORTS (again pre-op), The debate, TS 'issues' and 'community' side of the site seems to exist in tandem , parrellel to and almost DESPITE the "who's cock is biggest" posts.

AS this section was BOLDED(emboldened?) by Peggy Gee I feel that i should clarify that I do not WANT this site to be COCK-CENTRIC. I am not saying that this is a site about pre-op ts women and should be that way. That is NOT my message at all. I ONLY come here for the HUMOUR, EDUCATION FROM Peggy Gee, Amusing bickering AND a FEW real, intelligent girls that post here whose opinions i value. I don't come here for the cock. Got my own thanks very much. I come here for everything EXCEPT the photos, vid clips, etc. there are far more extensive picture and clip libraries on the net if you are looking for TS porn.
ALL I AM SAYING IN THE TEXT bolded by Peggy IS that you should not join the republican party and then expect them to adopt a responsible, enviromentally sound, non exploiting manifesto overnight. That doesn't mean that you can't SUBVERT and make a difference from within an 'institutionally corrupt' organisation. (no offence mods but we are all a bunch of hopeless sex cases, no?)

[Urian]

I always try to refer to people as they wish but "EX-TRANSEXUAL WOMAN"?
I think that is a step too far. It just doesn't make any sense. "EX"????????
I think a sign of respect is to not pretend that people are this or that and ACCEPT them as the are. I do not see POST -OP TS WOMEN as "EX-BOYS" so to insist that i call her "EX-TRANSEXUAL " is patronising and stupid.


Some Girls when they finish their transition become completely and fully invisible to the society, they hide their true nature with the exception of the people that they love. This is why they become an ex-transsexual because the transsexual thing is only the social mascara and label, one time that they can destroy it if they want to destroy it they will do it without any remorse.


And this sentance doesn't even make sense. I think you forgot to include a word or two , no?

Yes, It should include the words "attracted to" in the middle of the sentence.

[a994]

I for one only wish Ms. Van Der Veer the best. And she is a striking beauty.

[Kriss]

Some Girls when they finish their transition become completely and fully invisible to the society, they hide their true nature with the exception of the people that they love.

So surely the 'label' isn't even an issue. it doesn't come up unless in the very close company of "people that they love"


This is why they become an ex-transsexual because the transsexual thing is only the social mascara and label,

I suscribe to the theory that the actual physical brains of Transgender people have significant differences to a female brain OR a male brain. Of course these anatomical anomalies need not be an 'issue' as such, yet they should not be ignored, it's interesting, no?. I would be interested if anyone has info pertaining to a university research project, possibly U.S or Canadian where the donated brains of deceased Transexuals are studied. I understand how someone may want to 'forget' the TS label as much as possible. I always refer to TS friends as Women, Girls, Female, as that is how I see them and relate to them, I only ever refer to them as Transexual when it is relevant to the conversation (usually instigated by the girls, not me, I would rather talk about myself!)

[MrsKellyPierce]

Kriss Kelly asked me to do this I didn't go behind her back she watched the thread.

I KNOW that. please re-read my posts as i did NOT imply anywhere that it was done without permission. why would i imply that? YOU stated in the FIRST post that you were REQUESTED to do this so why would I say otherwise? do you assume that i did not read your original post in this topic? Really I only mentioned you as someone UTILISING this site for something POSITIVE , something OTHER than PORNO or meeting 'clients'. Really Kelly, I wholeheartedly SUPPORT your "isn't my freind pretty?" topics. I am just saying that this site will provoke confused and somewhat insensitive comments as many guys here have a LOT TO LEARN and are currently fixated by cock. I suspect that Guys that are not fixated by cock tend to visit OTHER sites and forums or even have exiting, fulfilling lives to live.
Kelly, you post here for the 'community', this is evident and I APPLAUD that (even tho I call SOME topics vacuous), but good or bad, the site is called HUNG angels for a reason. AGAIN , to be SUPER CLEAR, I NEVER suggested that the pics of Ms Van Der Veer were posted without consent. I only said that she shouldn't be too suprised when the crowd here don't know how to react with respect and sensitivity to the feelings of others.
Now you KNOW I have no time for the haters like master a. You KNOW that I totally respect and support all TS women, pre OR post op. If it was links posted WITHOUT permission OR of someone I know I would have had a fit, YOU KNOW THAT KELLY. I never attacked Kelly V's original decision to post (Hi schatje), Just don't like to see you girls get upset by a few fools that post childish comments.


Some guys here are into post ops not every guy just like PRE-OPS

Sorry I wasn't clear enough. I assumed that you Knew that I agree with you on this point, have you actually read any of my posts? I'm sorry Kriss I thought you were accusing of me of posting the info with out her knowledge.

[peggygee]

Peggy, if you keep this up you're going to oust Felicia as the quickest wit in the west on HA! :D :lol:

No, I think Felicia has me beat, her's is much sharper and quicker.
She has double entendre and wordplay down pat.

But me, I will use wit, wisdom, logic and anything at my disposal
to accomplish our mision of education, advocacy, and sometimes
agitation.

By any means neccesary!

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/m012.jpg

[peggygee]

This site is ALL about COCK! True, there is a lot of GOOD debate AND even intelligent posts here at H.A but this is really by accident rather than design i feel. To my eyes This site exists to promote TS PORN(pre-op) and ESCORTS (again pre-op), The debate, TS 'issues' and 'community' side of the site seems to exist in tandem , parrellel to and almost DESPITE the "who's cock is biggest" posts.

AS this section was BOLDED(emboldened?) by Peggy Gee I feel that i should clarify that I do not WANT this site to be COCK-CENTRIC. I am not saying that this is a site about pre-op ts women and should be that way. That is NOT my message at all. I ONLY come here for the HUMOUR, EDUCATION FROM Peggy Gee, Amusing bickering AND a FEW real, intelligent girls that post here whose opinions i value. I don't come here for the cock. Got my own thanks very much. I come here for everything EXCEPT the photos, vid clips, etc. there are far more extensive picture and clip libraries on the net if you are looking for TS porn.
ALL I AM SAYING IN THE TEXT bolded by Peggy IS that you should not join the republican party and then expect them to adopt a responsible, enviromentally sound, non exploiting manifesto overnight. That doesn't mean that you can't SUBVERT and make a difference from within an 'institutionally corrupt' organisation. (no offence mods but we are all a bunch of hopeless sex cases, no?)

By no means did I take exception at your statement.

Actually, I found your entire statement quite profound and it gave
me much to think about.

Also thanks so much for the compliment, oft-times I worry that my
writing comes off preachy,

[dskreet2]

I've even been given the Smiley Face eating popcorn icon. :lol:

[Ecstatic]

No, I think Felicia has me beat, her's is much sharper and quicker.
She has double entendre and wordplay down pat.

But me, I will use wit, wisdom, logic and anything at my disposal
to accomplish our mision of education, advocacy, and sometimes
agitation.

By any means neccesary!

In the realm of double entendre, I think it would take Groucho Marx to outdo the Kattt! He. But you are both among the most intellectually astute as well as funny members of this board.

uh, what was the subject again? Dang, B1, I think I'm catching that ADD thingy that's going around....

[peggygee]

No, I think Felicia has me beat, her's is much sharper and quicker.
She has double entendre and wordplay down pat.

But me, I will use wit, wisdom, logic and anything at my disposal
to accomplish our mision of education, advocacy, and sometimes
agitation.

By any means neccesary!

In the realm of double entendre, I think it would take Groucho Marx to outdo the Kattt! He. But you are both among the most intellectually astute as well as funny members of this board.

uh, what was the subject again? Dang, B1, I think I'm catching that ADD thingy that's going around....

Aww, you made her blush :oops:
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/duck_soup_200_145.jpg
.........thanks, Eman :wink: http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/blush3x3.jpg

[jefferson1776]

Kriss is da man, after i read all your posts, i can see that you deserve madd respect.

[mikejones]

Yea, Kriss you seem like a cool enough dude, but maybe try some decaf? Tranquilo man.