Club 7969 tonight

[MrYumYum]

Anyone else going to 7969 or peanuts tonight? Ill be going there tonight, kind of nervous but excited at the same time since it's my first time going to this "type" of place. I'm also going there by myself, again something I'm not used to...
What should I expect? Im 26 n pretty laid back. Cheers!

[NadiaUSA]

Well, once you go you can never become president.

[MrYumYum]

Well, once you go you can never become president.

Nice.. Can I expect you there?
I guess I have to smoke weed and bang gg's to become prez in this country lol.

Heres a pic of me. Ill say Hi if I see anyone from here...

[goldensamba]

I might be down to go. Are there a lot of ladies there on Tuesdays? I have never been there before either.

[NadiaUSA]

Its only on Modays and Fridays, Check the club listing page.

http://www.orangecountytranssexuals.com/Shemale_Clubs.htm

Regards,
Nadia

[Realgirls4me]

I need to address my Peanuts fix, though its changes of late don't bode well for TS admirers such as myself.
I can't wait to see how this new venue opening in a few days does. I hope it kicks ass, and that it ressurrects the feel of the Peanuts of three or four years ago.

Nadia, you look hot, woman! :)

[suckseed]

Ditto, Nadia. Candy apple lips...probably ruined with one kiss, lol.
But, yeah...dayum.

[NadiaUSA]

I have been there years ago and recently but I dont see much of a difference. SOme say that 10 or more years ago it was easier to hook up but that is loooooong ago.

What are the recent changes that make it less pleasing?

As far as the little back room going to another party , its so small its irrelevant.

[mikejones]

I was there last month and the place was hoppin'. Lots of nice looking girls, many of them I recognized from shemaleyum or videos that I have seen. After 2 a.m. the diner down the street was flooded with girls.

I was there just to look, but really I don't think you would have any problem hooking up. The girls were very friendly.

BTW, Nadia you are looking great!

[Realgirls4me]

Nadia,

The crowd, and that subsequent vibe the crowd produces, has just changed. It's like the girls are staying away in large masses also. I'm not talking about hitting on any girls necessarily, but just rubbing shoulders with them, talking to them, or buying them drinks. My first two times there were amazing, with girls from Eros, the porn world, of just from the neighborhood were seemingly everywhere. Tons of them. I've spoken to others I've met there and they say the same thing also.


:(

[NadiaUSA]

Nadia,

The crowd, and that subsequent vibe the crowd produces, has just changed. It's like the girls are staying away in large masses also. I'm not talking about hitting on any girls necessarily, but just rubbing shoulders with them, talking to them, or buying them drinks. My first two times there were amazing, with girls from Eros, the porn world, of just from the neighborhood were seemingly everywhere. Tons of them. I've spoken to others I've met there and they say the same thing also.
:(

I used to be more friendly myself, however lately when I do go "rarely" , I stay away from everyone unless I alredy know them. If someone wants to introduce themselves to me they should be wearing a suit or at least a nice jacket and shoes. Also, anyone that starts a conversation with "whats up" or "hey" is lame.

I prefer straight places like upscale resurants or shows and events.

[Realgirls4me]

I used to be more friendly myself, however lately when I do go "rarely" , I stay away from everyone unless I alredy know them. If someone wants to introduce themselves to me they should be wearing a suit or at least a nice jacket and shoes. Also, anyone that starts a conversation with "whats up" or "hey" is lame.

I prefer straight places like upscale resurants or shows and events.

Well, there you go. Maybe more girls are doing that nowadays in that area, thus explaining the drop in numbers at places like Peanuts. On the other hand, they could be just staying at home because Peanuts isn't fun or attractive to them for various reasons currently.

By the way, I always try to dress nice whenever I go out to a club. Not Jay-Z nice, but nice enough to appear as if I made some effort to present myself well before stepping out.

Here's how I would approach someone like you: Hi, are you Nadia from the HA forums? I post there also. I go by the sobriquet, "Realgirls4me". My real name is ... May I buy you a drink? Blah, blah, blah ...

Would that be an acceptable intro?

[NadiaUSA]

By the way, I always try to dress nice whenever I go out to a club. Not Jay-Z nice, but nice enough to appear as if I made some effort to present myself well before stepping out

It worries me that you say you dress nice. I am sure every one thinks they are dressed nice but that means different things to different people.
I would have to see it. Like I Said, a suit and nice shoes that cost more than a pair of sneakers is preferable.

Maybe the girls don't go because the guys look like they all make minimum wage. Also, the West Hollywood metrosexual posers are not my type either.

If I seem cold to a new person at a club , keep in mind I am always very defensive at a club so please be understanding.

Regards,
Nadia

[DJ_Asia]

Nadia,

The crowd, and that subsequent vibe the crowd produces, has just changed. It's like the girls are staying away in large masses also. I'm not talking about hitting on any girls necessarily, but just rubbing shoulders with them, talking to them, or buying them drinks. My first two times there were amazing, with girls from Eros, the porn world, of just from the neighborhood were seemingly everywhere. Tons of them. I've spoken to others I've met there and they say the same thing also.
:(

I used to be more friendly myself, however lately when I do go "rarely" , I stay away from everyone unless I alredy know them. If someone wants to introduce themselves to me they should be wearing a suit or at least a nice jacket and shoes. Also, anyone that starts a conversation with "whats up" or "hey" is lame.

I prefer straight places like upscale resurants or shows and events.

I think its rather extreme to expect men to dress in a suit or jacket just to talk to you...esp. @ 7969 where 90%( or more)of the girs are working and its irrelevant how nice you dress in the end one still has to pay to play.
Alot of these dudes are forced to dress in a monkey suit(coat and tie) to go to work 5 days a week and frankly putting on another suit just to go oogle at girls is a bit much.
Further ruling out the "metrosexual"dress code excludes well dressed men NOT attired in said gorilla outfit.

Each person has their own tastes and you are certainly entitled to it,however I wonder do you go dressed in the female equivelant of a suit?

[Realgirls4me]

By the way, I always try to dress nice whenever I go out to a club. Not Jay-Z nice, but nice enough to appear as if I made some effort to present myself well before stepping out

It worries me that you say you dress nice. I am sure every one thinks they are dressed nice but that means different things to different people.
I would have to see it. Like I Said, a suit and nice shoes that cost more than a pair of sneakers is preferable.

Maybe the girls don't go because the guys look like they all make minimum wage. Also, the West Hollywood metrosexual posers are not my type either.

If I seem cold to a new person at a club , keep in mind I am always very defensive at a club so please be understanding.

Regards,
Nadia

I think it was over at the TER forum where the "dress for success" topic has been rehashed time and time again. What I meant by "Jay-Z nice" is that I can't afford to wear $3000.00 suits, but I also don't subscribe to the other extreme which mirrors a skateboard jock look. I might wear a $500.00 black leather jacket with a nice polo shirt underneath it and some casual slacks, or I might wear a nice sports jacket, dress shirt, dress slacks, and dress shoes. No minimum wage look in other words. I'll wear the minimum wage look if I ever become a millionaire.

You said you might appear cold and defensive at clubs. That being said, how would you respond to my intro if it did happen? i.e., How many words would I have gotten out in my intro before you walked away or dissed me in some way?

What is it about shoes that you look for? I've heard it from several women in the past that they also judge men by their shoes. Tell me what you look for in a man's shoes, besides outpricing sneakers?

[NadiaUSA]

You said you might appear cold and defensive at clubs. That being said, how would you respond to my intro if it did happen? i.e., How many words would I have gotten out in my intro before you walked away or dissed me in some way?

What is it about shoes that you look for? I've heard it from several women in the past that they also judge men by their shoes. Tell me what you look for in a man's shoes, besides outpricing sneaker

Well, you have to understand I have been drugged at clubs plus I get followed to my car and then at least 1 person always follows me for a few miles, sometimes more. So I am not trying to be mean but there is the uphill battle to make me comfortable with someone new at a club.

So anything you can do to help me view you as an upscale gentleman is good.

You would be suprised at how few emails and calls I get are from gentleman that take the time to address me with a civilized introduction.

As far as your opening in the ther post, It sounds fine but there is still the Vibe factor. If I am feeling creeped out that night I may be on my way out the door when you ask and I may flee regardless.

Also, the leather jacket is not helpful. The sport coat is good.

[Realgirls4me]

What's wrong with a nice soft leather jacket? And tell me about the shoe factor/attraction? I also meant "dress jacket" and not "sports coat".

[NadiaUSA]

What's wrong with a nice soft leather jacket? And tell me about the shoe factor/attraction? I also should meant "dress jacket" and not "sports coat".

Well, if I already knew you, the leather would be fine.
But we are talking about first impressions here. I would have no idea what you are like by that, or I may even think you are a Thug or Joe cool dude.

The other poster was angry about wearing a monkey suit. Fine, if you are going out to meet existing friends or hookers. However, people endure suits for a reason, they are most presentable to more people. If you feel like a monkey, go get a decent suit.

As far as shoes, they are more telling than your watch. I am not being materialistic as much as looking for your class lifestyle and type of care you take in yourself. They should have leather bottoms, and no dust. Not military shiny but a nice skin or texture to show style and quality. There are plenty that are at Nordstrom for about $300 to start. I think in summer thay have the mens sale and you can get quality for $200 plus.

[Realgirls4me]

What's wrong with a nice soft leather jacket? And tell me about the shoe factor/attraction? I also should meant "dress jacket" and not "sports coat".

Well, if I already knew you, the leather would be fine.
But we are talking about first impressions here. I would have no idea what you are like by that, or I may even think you are a Thug or Joe cool dude.

The other poster was angry about wearing a monkey suit. Fine, if you are going out to meet existing friends or hookers. However, people endure suits for a reason, they are most presentable to more people. If you feel like a monkey, go get a decent suit.

As far as shoes, they are more telling than your watch. I am not being materialistic as much as looking for your class lifestyle and type of care you take in yourself. They should have leather bottoms, and no dust. Not military shiny but a nice skin or texture to show style and quality. There are plenty that are at Nordstrom for about $300 to start. I think in summer thay have the mens sale and you can get quality for $200 plus.

Yes, I can see how a black leather jacket might give that impression and fit certain stereotypes (The Sopranos?), but personally don't think it is a fair one. For me, it's a casual, yet expensive piece of clothing that is as much functional as fashionable. It also goes with just about anything. One need not watch it as closely as, say, some camel hair jacket. I'll keep that in mind though should I ever see you and get the urge to walk over.

On the shoe part, spending $300.00 on a pair of shoes just isn't me. It's not that I'm cheap or anything, but spending that kind of money on a pair of shoes is akin to spending $250,000.00 on a car. Even if I had the money for said vehicle, I wouldn't spend it. A decent pair of shoes can be had for around $70.00. That's just me, though. I'm sure other guys in here might differ in that fashion arena.

[NadiaUSA]

When is the last time a woman has said to you , "wow, I like your shoes". How many times has she said nothing and walked away.

[NadiaUSA]

When is the last time a woman has said to you , "wow, I like your shoes". How many times has she said nothing and walked away.

Some one please nominate me to be placed Bartlett's Familiar Quotations.

[Kriss]

The sport coat is good.

Dumb brit here, What IS sport coat? Are we talking about some kind of 'BLAZER' jacket, usually seen on guys like bing crosby? It strikes me that it is a bizzarre misnomer. Surely these type of jacket is the least suitable attire for doing sport? Reminds me of the trend for "sports bars" where unfit men gather to drink alcohol , smoke cigarettes and be inactive while snacking on high salt garbage. seems kinda UN-sporty


A decent pair of shoes can be had for around $70.00. That's just me, though. .

Good on you man, dont follow fashion, get your own STYLE. I'm single handedly bringing back open toe sandals........with socks!!!! Ned Flanders roll over.


When is the last time a woman has said to you , "wow, I like your shoes"..

Are we talking Crossdressed or not? :wink:

[Realgirls4me]

When is the last time a woman has said to you , "wow, I like your shoes". How many times has she said nothing and walked away.

Some one please nominate me to be placed Bartlett's Familiar Quotations.

Nadia,

Tastes, even with something like shoes, is very subjective. If there are certain types of styles that were definitely "babe magnets", I'm sure every guy on the planet -- even single men in the poorest slums of India -- would sprint to their nearest shoe store to purchase some. Let's just say I wouldn't wear something many would consider ugly, such as Birkenstocks (Ooooh, hedious!). That guy who you walked away from because you judged him on his shoes might have 30 other pairs at home which you might tolerate, if not outright like. ...How about judging a man on, say, something really unimportant, like his personality, wit, intelligence, vocabulary, sense of humor, civility, powers of observation, etc., huh?

I'm sure Ken Lay wore nice expensive shoes.

[NadiaUSA]

Enough with the world is unfair argument. I get email all the time from complainers that want me to date them for "who they are". What the hell do you want me to do about it. This is the way it is and regarding shoes I have given you great advice for getting good results.

[BlackAdder]

Wow...i would NEVER EVER NEVER want a thing to do with a girl that judged me on what i was wearing lol....

My boss has millions and he looks like a bum with sandals that drives a midline SUV...yet most girls would swarm his tip if they had any idea how much property he owns.

Anyone that judges people by what they wear is just asking to lose out. Some of the most influential and wealthy people ive met dont even bother with being pretentious...

[MrsKellyPierce]

Wow...i would NEVER EVER NEVER want a thing to do with a girl that judged me on what i was wearing lol....

My boss has millions and he looks like a bum with sandals that drives a midline SUV...yet most girls would swarm his tip if they had any idea how much property he owns.

Anyone that judges people by what they wear is just asking to lose out. Some of the most influential and wealthy people ive met dont even bother with being pretentious... lol so true and the ones that dress overly nice are usually compensating for wealth they don't have..

[Realgirls4me]

Wow...i would NEVER EVER NEVER want a thing to do with a girl that judged me on what i was wearing lol....

My boss has millions and he looks like a bum with sandals that drives a midline SUV...yet most girls would swarm his tip if they had any idea how much property he owns.

Anyone that judges people by what they wear is just asking to lose out. Some of the most influential and wealthy people ive met dont even bother with being pretentious...

That's what I meant upstream when I mentioned that I would dress like a bum when I became a millionaire. That way, I would know that people (women) wanted my acquaintance or friendship based on my core, and not my material exterior. On the other hand, what Nadia and I were getting at is that we all do base impressions, particularly first ones, on our looks, and shoes are certainly scrutinized by several women I know.

[NadiaUSA]

Ha ha , I am sure all those guys at peanuts are billionairs and I am mising out.

Sorry guys but first impressions get you breaks in life and there are millionairs that can make as bad a first impression as anyone else.

[BlackAdder]

Well, working in this field is the first time ive really gotten a chance to meet millionaires, and its pretty much cured me of what my impression is of people that literally have money to burn. Most of the these guys LOVE to be underestimated by the people they meet; it gives them such a huge advantage in everyday dealings.

[Realgirls4me]

Well, working in this field is the first time ive really gotten a chance to meet millionaires, and its pretty much cured me of what my impression is of people that literally have money to burn. Most of the these guys LOVE to be underestimated by the people they meet; it gives them such a huge advantage in everyday dealings.

Most of the millionaires I've known in my life have also carried an unassuming personality.

"The millionaire next door" ?

[Kriss]

Sorry guys but first impressions get you breaks in life and there are millionairs that can make as bad a first impression as anyone else.

Nadia has a point here. If for example you were to approach her at a club, why would that be? Is it primarily because she is beautiful? I suggest that your first impression is the reason why you would be approaching a particular girl in the first place. It's not that shallow. If a girl dresses to hide her body and is not confidant in her style I would not be inclined to approach her so it's fair enough for Nadia to expect some decent footware on her suitors.


and shoes are certainly scrutinized by several women I know.

Wake up man , all women are shoe fetishists

[Realgirls4me]

Is Floresheim still around?

That's where I got my Beatle boots, which still kick butt.


:)

[BlackAdder]

Well..unassuming looking at least, although alot of them are kinda jerky once you know thema little now that i think about it.

BTW, I read today that there are now an estimated 2.9 million people with a net worth over $1M living in the US and Canada this year...and the article indicated that it was a common thought among them that they were "struggling"........

Yeah, cry me a fucking river.

[Realgirls4me]

Kriss,

Okay, want to give me some suggestions?


(Feverishly begins to look for shoe sites)

[Kriss]

...and the article indicated that it was a common thought among them that they were "struggling"........
Yeah, cry me a fucking river.

:lol: :lol: Everyone lives beyond thier means these days

[Realgirls4me]

Well..unassuming looking at least, although alot of them are kinda jerky once you know thema little now that i think about it.

BTW, I read today that there are now an estimated 2.9 people with a net worth over $1M living in the US and Canada this year...and the article indicated that it was a common thought among them that they were "struggling"........

Yeah, cry me a fucking river.

LOL! Yeah I guess a million bucks just isn't what it use to be.

[Kriss]

LOL! Yeah I guess a million bucks just isn't what it use to be.

HA! it's EASY to be a dollar billionaire. Especially as an american billion is only 100,000,000000.


Kriss,Okay, want to give me some suggestions?


:arrow:

[Realgirls4me]

Okay, here are the shoes I'd wear if I knew I'd be seeing Nadia for the first time ...

[NadiaUSA]

you could always just wear a suit made of Richard Gere

[Realgirls4me]

Joke!

Joke!

Joke!

All of the previous and following shoes are courtesy of Zappos.com, and the following dress shoes are similar to ones I own. Mind you that I've only perused thorugh 37 of 258 pages of their dress shoe selection. I'm sure they have plenty of shoes that I have some like.

[Realgirls4me]

Here are shoes from Zappos that are similar to what I currently own(partial list given I haven't seen all they have to offer) :

[Realgirls4me]

More ...

Sizing me up yet ?

[Realgirls4me]

A couple more:

Yes, I list more toward the conservative side ... I love black!

[NadiaUSA]

Nadia recomended,

Mezlan 'Princeton' Oxford Timeless and sophisticated are true expressions when it comes to this style. It features a classic algonquin stitch on the toe and double stitching detail on the vamp. Made with genuine alligator and bologna construction for flexibility and comfort. By Mezlan. Made in Spain.

http://www.mezlanshoes.com/Product/Footwear/Footwear_Gallery.html

[DJ_Asia]

What's wrong with a nice soft leather jacket? And tell me about the shoe factor/attraction? I also should meant "dress jacket" and not "sports coat".


The other poster was angry about wearing a monkey suit. Fine, if you are going out to meet existing friends or hookers. However, people endure suits for a reason, they are most presentable to more people. If you feel like a monkey, go get a decent suit.



Oh no u have it all wrong...i dont wear a monkey suit,i dont own a monkey suit nor would i ever waste my $$$ on a "nice suit" AKA monkey suit

If i gotta impress a girl by my wardrobe and the amount i paid for my shoes or watch or power tie then i dont wanna know that girl anyways.


again ive seen your pics hanging out w/ Yasmine and unless im mistaking your attire doesnt fit the female equivelant of a "nice suit" a point i raised earlier that you chose to ignore...so why would you expect/demand it if youre not doing it yourself and do you really think that judging a human by what designer name is attached to his hideous Italian loafers is a good rule of thumb for meeting a quality person?

[goldensamba]

If you think the fact that someone dresses upscale makes them any less apt to be a psycho you are very misguided. Clothes do not make a person in any way shape or form. I could be mistaken but it seems you are looking more for a bank account than the content of a person's character.

As for wearing a suit to impress.......I laugh when I go out and see guys sporting expensive suits. If you are successful the first thing you learn is that you don't have to advertise to exude a bit of class. I go out in jeans, a nice button down and nice shoes and I guarantee you I work harder and am more successful than most of the suit wearing boys. Some of us get tired of having our shoes and watches appraised when we go out so we keep it low key. A general rule is that the one flaunting it didn't work for it (i.e. mommy and daddy handed it to them on a platter.) There are plenty of the super rich who are as loony if not more loony than the average everyday guy (see the Max Factor heir for example number 1) so I would be carefull with judging a person based on material things.

I learned during the mid 90's (during the .com boom) when I was living in the bay area to keep it low key or you would have some leech trying to use you for gifts and money.

This is goes for GG and TG.

Only one man's opions and experiences so don;t take it personal.

[DJ_Asia]

If you think the fact that someone dresses upscale makes them any less apt to be a psycho you are very misguided. Clothes do not make a person in any way shape or form. I could be mistaken but it seems you are looking more for a bank account than the content of a person's character.

As for wearing a suit to impress.......I laugh when I go out and see guys sporting expensive suits. If you are successful the first thing you learn is that you don't have to advertise to exude a bit of class. I go out in jeans, a nice button down and nice shoes and I guarantee you I work harder and am more successful than most of the suit wearing boys. Some of us get tired of having our shoes and watches appraised when we go out so we keep it low key. A general rule is that the one flaunting it didn't work for it (i.e. mommy and daddy handed it to them on a platter.) There are plenty of the super rich who are as loony if not more loony than the average everyday guy (see the Max Factor heir for example number 1) so I would be carefull with judging a person based on material things.

I learned during the mid 90's (during the .com boom) when I was living in the bay area to keep it low key or you would have some leech trying to use you for gifts and money.

This is goes for GG and TG.

Only one man's opions and experiences so don;t take it personal.

Nah i think you said it well....she wants guys to wear a sign on their back that says:

Im an easy target...please come abuse my bank account....

just one guys opinion dont take it personal :roll:

[Your_Best_Kept_Secret]

A man can go great lengths to carry himself well, present himself with class or style, or make a good first impression without having to stretch his wallet the same distance.

I'd rather see a man carry himself with dignity and confidence ( not cockyness ) than see an expensive suit carry someone who's hollow inside and only has a dollar sign to offer.

I spoil myself endlessly. I don't need a penis with a credit card and steep bank account to do it for me. I happen to already have both.

Cheers.

[MrYumYum]

I guess this thread has turned into a fashion debate lol...
Here's an update on my experience at 7969...

Got there around 11:15 and since I was kinda nervous I sat at the corner booth just to look around for a while. Not much was happening so I got a drink and sat down. I'd say around 11:45 the dance floor started to fill up a little...

Anyways I was just enjoying some of the Tgirls there, but I noticed many CD's (couple of which were kinda hot). Angelica was there (I think it was her, but she was the only TS I recognized). She looked super hot, and actually pinched my chin as i was standing against a wall as she walked by. Good times. http://www.eros-la.com/sections/los_angeles_shemale_escorts.htm



I didn't really talk to any girls there until after a fight broke out between a gay guy and a black drag queen... Kinda weird I was right next to them the whole time... that was fun to watch lol... After the fight I saw this group of hot asian girls, and decided to talk to one of them, who was pretty receptive although it was my first time hitting on a TS and it seemed kinda awkward (at least to me). The club closed right after so we exchanged numbers.

I called her and we met up to get some food with her friend, and she invited me to long beach to kick it. We got a room, and I actually ended up fucking her and her friend! That was hot and unexpected...

I ended up getting home around 6 in the morning, thinking what a wild experience for first time... As far as the place, it was interesting to say the least for me to be in a club with really feminine guys doing strange dances, and I couldnt understand why they would be at a TS club, but it's all good with me. Other than that it was a different experience, but I don't know if i'd go there again..

Oh, and i was wearing some nice jeans and shoes similar to these lol..You DONT need a D&G suit to get some, and im glad i didnt wear mine since no one was wearing anything that formal.
Peace!

[Your_Best_Kept_Secret]

At least you had a good time and didn't have to wear a label to get some attention...

I've noticed a lot of times that feminine guys/gayboys feel they relate to T-girls on some levels and like going where they go. They feel they can be justy as overly girly as they want in public without fear of too much ridicule or finger-pointing....at least blatant ridicule and finger-pointing.

[Kriss]

It is sad but true that many (but NOT all) Girls will automatically clock a guy's clothes, cross referencing his designer labels to thier relative cost (all pre-memorised) and thus his approximate gross annual wealth in 2.7 milliseconds, kinda like the terminator, identifying a potential target.

[ARMANIXXX]

NadiaUSA said


I used to be more friendly myself, however lately when I do go "rarely" , I stay away from everyone unless I alredy know them. If someone wants to introduce themselves to me they should be wearing a suit or at least a nice jacket and shoes. Also, anyone that starts a conversation with "whats up" or "hey" is lame.



also said


t worries me that you say you dress nice. I am sure every one thinks they are dressed nice but that means different things to different people.
I would have to see it. Like I Said, a suit and nice shoes that cost more than a pair of sneakers is preferable.

Maybe the girls don't go because the guys look like they all make minimum wage.


and,


So anything you can do to help me view you as an upscale gentleman is good.




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I had to chime in and say a couple of things.

First, This is LA we are talking about. And while LA is a nice place to visit every so often (sorta), I would utterly HATE to live there. Nadia's comments are a general parallel of how Los Angeles is in a "broad-stroke" sort of way.

You have to understand the mentality of the people that live there to kinda get a feel for whats going on. Hollywood, music, and entertainment is a huge business in LA and many people there want a piece of it. Many people have done things like bit roles or played extras in movies, were part of some entertainment endeavor, or aspire to do so. So they in turn act as if they are ritzy and snooty, to "keep up with the Jones'". If you take a ride in LA and say hi to practically anyone, do not be surpised if you do NOT even get a response. Alot of people that live in LA are also afraid and insecure with themselves and the people around them, So by ignoring someone that might seem friendly, this is their defense mechanism; Closing themselves off is how people in LA protect themselves, they hide themselves. This is why LA has the often cliche'd stereotype of being "rude" and/or "fake".



I will say this, the people that live in "the valley"(outskirts of LA), they tend to be more outgoing and social. But basically, LA is a very unfriendly place. Strangely, the people in NYC seem to be more friendly than the people in LA........go figrure. *shrug*


So don't get too upset at Nadia and her comments, she is just a product of her environment.

[Kriss]

a lot of INTERESTING STUFF ABOUT L.A.

Interesting. Think i learned more about L.A. culture there than from 1000000 movies.

[Vicki Richter]

Well, you have to understand I have been drugged at clubs plus I get followed to my car and then at least 1 person always follows me for a few miles, sometimes more. So I am not trying to be mean but there is the uphill battle to make me comfortable with someone new at a club.

.

Who goes to Peanuts (or any other club) looking for a classy guy then doesn't park in valet?

[DJ_Asia]

NadiaUSA said


I used to be more friendly myself, however lately when I do go "rarely" , I stay away from everyone unless I alredy know them. If someone wants to introduce themselves to me they should be wearing a suit or at least a nice jacket and shoes. Also, anyone that starts a conversation with "whats up" or "hey" is lame.



also said


t worries me that you say you dress nice. I am sure every one thinks they are dressed nice but that means different things to different people.
I would have to see it. Like I Said, a suit and nice shoes that cost more than a pair of sneakers is preferable.

Maybe the girls don't go because the guys look like they all make minimum wage.


and,


So anything you can do to help me view you as an upscale gentleman is good.




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I had to chime in and say a couple of things.

First, This is LA we are talking about. And while LA is a nice place to visit every so often (sorta), I would utterly HATE to live there. Nadia's comments are a general parallel of how Los Angeles is in a "broad-stroke" sort of way.

You have to understand the mentality of the people that live there to kinda get a feel for whats going on. Hollywood, music, and entertainment is a huge business in LA and many people there want a piece of it. Many people have done things like bit roles or played extras in movies, were part of some entertainment endeavor, or aspire to do so. So they in turn act as if they are ritzy and snooty, to "keep up with the Jones'". If you take a ride in LA and say hi to practically anyone, do not be surpised if you do NOT even get a response. Alot of people that live in LA are also afraid and insecure with themselves and the people around them, So by ignoring someone that might seem friendly, this is their defense mechanism; Closing themselves off is how people in LA protect themselves, they hide themselves. This is why LA has the often cliche'd stereotype of being "rude" and/or "fake".



I will say this, the people that live in "the valley"(outskirts of LA), they tend to be more outgoing and social. But basically, LA is a very unfriendly place. Strangely, the people in NYC seem to be more friendly than the people in LA........go figrure. *shrug*


So don't get too upset at Nadia and her comments, she is just a product of her environment.

While your assesment of LA is fairly accurate,the reasoning sucks ass......I was born and raised in LA and while I agree that LA blows mulecock,dont go around letting this $$$ hungry individual tell men how to dress when choosing tranny hookers at 7969,and then simply shrug it off as an "LA thing"...the fact is she just wants to be able to kick back and if the mood strikes her to be social/work able to cherry pick the 'haves"from"the "have nots" based upon the amount spent on clothes,shoes and accesories.

Further betcha a Timex watch that shes not originally from LA anyways...LA is full of rejects from other places that feel that since they now live in a town bordering 90210 that that gives them carte blanche to act like fuckwads..this is why LA is the way it is.....us natives w/ any brains got out a long time ago.

Fact is this type of person is everywhere and Ive met a fair share of fake folks here in NY who promise the worldand deliver squat.... at least NY has character...and character goes a long ways.

[Vicki Richter]

I will throw my 2 cents in. First, I tend to stay away from any guy at Peanuts dressed in a suit. It is retarded to goto a club in that neighborhood and dress to the 9's. I've seen little Asian guys with guns trying to find someone their girl had a vendetta against. I've seen fights. I've seen girls tackling each other on the upper stage and ripping each other's wigs off. Girls have been shot and killed right down the street. Police have been known to video tape both guys and girls leaving the Yukon. Danielle got mugged right down the street. One of the girls there tried to steal my ex-bf's wallet. The valet lost my keys 4 years a go and it took until 4am one morning to get them replaced (at the cost of $300+ to me) - cost of key fob and computer chip key for a 2000 Corvette). Danielle blogged recently that someone keyed what I believe to be Felicia's car. Fuck that place.

The club is in no way nice enough to warrant guys to dress in collared shirts. It may be the best transsexual club I have ever seen, but it isn't nice for a normal club. The reason the girls stay away, outside of all the other reasons I have listed, is probably because they take the best hour for dancing, close down the entire dance floor, and then do the stupid, lame strip show. Why would a girl want to waste her time sitting there watching other girls strip.

If I want to pick up guys dressed nice with money, I am going to The Standard or somewhere in Scottsdale. I am not going to Peanuts. 7969 is good for meeting fans and hanging out with them. Seeing girls that I haven't seen in awhile, and getting treated like a mini-celebrity.

[BlackAdder]

NYC people friendlier?? Yeesh...LA must be a cesspool. Philadelphia and the who tristate area is pretty bad in this regard....I SOOO want to move down to Florida, if nothing else for the peoples attitudes.

I pretty much agree with what DJAsia has to say other then,

So whats wrong with Mulecock?????;)

[hondarobot]

It's a strange phenomenon, the level of potential violence in TS friendly clubs. A girl just got stabbed (not fatally) on one of our dance floors last sunday night, just before 2am or so, right in the middle of the crowd.

I will say that neither girls involved were TS (I believe it was some GG lesbian love triangle thing) but a post-op TS bartender did jump over the bar and put the girl with a knife in a head lock until security could get things under control.

Honestly, if you want a crazy situation, get a bunch of baby dyke lesbians in a group. Those chicks are crazy, they bust up our bathrooms on a regular basis.

[DJ_Asia]

NYC people friendlier?? Yeesh...LA must be a cesspool. Philadelphia and the who tristate area is pretty bad in this regard....I SOOO want to move down to Florida, if nothing else for the peoples attitudes.

I pretty much agree with what DJAsia has to say other then,

So whats wrong with Mulecock?????;)

Lol..well nothing i guess it depends on how pretty the mule its attached to is....or if the mule is dressed in an Armani suit then its quite desirable by some peoples standards.

[goldensamba]

NadiaUSA said



I had to chime in and say a couple of things.

First, This is LA we are talking about. And while LA is a nice place to visit every so often (sorta), I would utterly HATE to live there. Nadia's comments are a general parallel of how Los Angeles is in a "broad-stroke" sort of way.

You have to understand the mentality of the people that live there to kinda get a feel for whats going on. Hollywood, music, and entertainment is a huge business in LA and many people there want a piece of it. Many people have done things like bit roles or played extras in movies, were part of some entertainment endeavor, or aspire to do so. So they in turn act as if they are ritzy and snooty, to "keep up with the Jones'". If you take a ride in LA and say hi to practically anyone, do not be surpised if you do NOT even get a response. Alot of people that live in LA are also afraid and insecure with themselves and the people around them, So by ignoring someone that might seem friendly, this is their defense mechanism; Closing themselves off is how people in LA protect themselves, they hide themselves. This is why LA has the often cliche'd stereotype of being "rude" and/or "fake".



I will say this, the people that live in "the valley"(outskirts of LA), they tend to be more outgoing and social. But basically, LA is a very unfriendly place. Strangely, the people in NYC seem to be more friendly than the people in LA........go figrure. *shrug*


So don't get too upset at Nadia and her comments, she is just a product of her environment.

See this is where you are all on the wrong page. As a born and raised native of southern California (born in LA) we get a bad rap. What is really the cause of the pretentious BS that goes on here is the influx of jerks from other places trying to act like they are from LA (acting like the stereo type) thus too good to for everyone. When, in all actuality they are from Podunk, Kansas. If we could send everyone home who was not born in this state that attitude would be almost completely gone. I can count on one hand the number of people I know who are born and raised here. But I Can count tons who act like they were and have become materialistic jerks adding the the mass of them.

[mikejones]

Nadia I appreciate your comments. I think some people overreacted to what was really just a conversational post.

I think all people (not just Tgirls) form some opinions from the way people are dressed. Right or wrong it is what it is. Sometimes by wearing nice clothes you are not attracting attention, but just avoiding the negative attention of looking scruffy.

[Perverted Monk]

I love L.A.

This is the city were people move to. You see many expatriates from NY, Chicago, and many other eastern cities here. Doesn't happen as much the other way around.

[NadiaUSA]

If I want to pick up guys dressed nice with money, I am going to The Standard or somewhere in Scottsdale. I am not going to Peanuts. 7969 is good for meeting fans and hanging out with them. Seeing girls that I haven't seen in awhile, and getting treated like a mini-celebrity.

I rarely go there and only for the same reasons, to see girls I haven't seen in a while etc. Clubs like that are dangerous, I wont even drink water there and am very defensive, For years now I have always had a driver or at least valet in an up front spot so I can get out fast. I stay up by the DJ booth away from everyone until I see a friend to go talk to. Management has always taken care of my requests for protection against things I see as a potential problem on any given night.

Someone was shot at the Yukon years ago. It's about a mile and a half east of 7969. It is still a bad scene.

By the way its not just the nice clothes, I can read a "PL" Pathetic Loser poser in less than 30 seconds. Part of being a "product of my enviornment" is not falling for the lies and posers, it's clocking them.

[AlySinclair]

Hey Blackadder,

Idk what it is, but you take every chance you can to bash our fair city, Philadelphia, and those in it.

Didn't you ever hear the saying, "love the one's your with"?

Only teasing, but kinda not. I know Philadelphia isn't your favorite place, but maybe take the criticsm down a notch for the rest of us who kinda enjoy it.

XxX
Aly
www.hotties-unlimited.com


NYC people friendlier?? Yeesh...LA must be a cesspool. Philadelphia and the who tristate area is pretty bad in this regard....I SOOO want to move down to Florida, if nothing else for the peoples attitudes.

I pretty much agree with what DJAsia has to say other then,

So whats wrong with Mulecock?????;)

[whatsupwithat]

wow. So much judgement and expectation in this thread. Sad.

[Kriss]

wow. So much judgement and expectation in this thread. Sad.

Actually i thougt this thread was suprisingly good. I never been to that club and am never likely to go but have enjoyed reading peoples opinions regarding clothing and the politics of L.A. culture. GOOD THREAD. I dont see "whatsupwiththat" offering any opinion or insight other than to pass judgement on all previous posters in the thread. now THAT is sad mate.

[whatsupwithat]

wow. So much judgement and expectation in this thread. Sad.

Actually i thougt this thread was suprisingly good. I never been to that club and am never likely to go but have enjoyed reading peoples opinions regarding clothing and the politics of L.A. culture. GOOD THREAD. I dont see "whatsupwiththat" offering any opinion or insight other than to pass judgement on all previous posters in the thread. now THAT is sad mate.

Nah, not passing judgement on people. I've been there before. Many times. Back in the early 90's mostly...Peanuts...it was fun. I'm passing judgement on a culture and way of looking at people by how they dress or look. I know, I know, I'm just as much a part of that culture as anyone else...so, I guess I'm passing judgement on myself and my expectations. Funny how it always comes back to ourselves when we talk about others, huh? :)

[Kriss]

Funny how it always comes back to ourselves when we talk about others, huh? :)

:lol: yup. I really found the 'clothes' thing interesting. If there is ONE garment worth spending the money on, it's good shoes. All women are shoe fetishists, and not in a good, sexual way, just in a 'never enough' fetishist kind of way. Women clock your shoes right after they clock your packet (right after they clock your wallet bulge :wink: ). Generally trainers (sneakers to you yanks) are a bad move, girls are just gonna be thinking how they are gonna stink up her flat(apartment to you yanks), also they look pretty manky, pretty quick. Just returned from shopping for shoes(what an ordeal, I hate oxford st SO much) and ended up buying exactly the same boots I bought 3 years ago, which are exactly the same as the ones I bought 5 years before that. God bless Caterpillar boots(even if cat do sell tanks and bulldozers to corrupt regimes). Funny how it always comes back to ourselves when we talk about others, huh?
You quoted me, how DARE you? you absolute bastard!

[whatsupwithat]

Funny how it always comes back to ourselves when we talk about others, huh? :)

Funny how it always comes back to ourselves when we talk about others, huh?


hahahaha!

bastard! :)

[Willie Escalade]

I don't dress to impress anyone but myself. If a girl (TG or GG) doesn't want to talk to me, so be it. If I say hi and in return get no reply, oh, well. There are others out there who will talk to me, simply because I'm a nice guy When I tell them what I do for a living, they are suprised.

I admit I go to 7969 every Monday (Fridays are out because of work). I'll also admit that I do have a click of friends I hang out with. We don't front around each other. I have attended the club on a few occasions "dressed up"; I was not treated any differently. It's not only the girls' preference, it's the guys' as well. I have been attracted to ladies wearing a business suit as well as the one wearing the mini-skirt.

Vicki, I agree with what you said about the strip show/impersonation show. I rarely watch it, unless one of my friends and/or someone I really want to see is in it (Danielle Foxxx, Shadonna, Raja, et.al.). Usually, I'll talk to the bartenders and security (and because of this we're now on a first name basis).

The club can get violent. Fortunately that is not always the case. I didn't see the fight from Monday night; I was outside talking to Raja (one of the performers that night) and some of my buddies. I have witnessed others though. Same at the Yukon. It can get worse there because of the lack of security. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it) the LASD drives through.

Being a Los Angeles native, I don't have to put on an act. I could give a damn what people not from this city think about those who are. I'll admit I haven't been to too many other places, but for the places I have been to, I don't complain about their lifestyles. Not everyone here in LA wants to be in entertainment.

[BlackAdder]

I only bash it because it deserves to be bashed Aly....The murder rate has already climbed past 100 now and its just the start of spring...Philadelphia is fucked UP.....So much so that i dont even like hanging out there socially anymore.

[AlySinclair]

I see your point about that Adder. Of course, anything violent is a blight on the community. I certainly agree with you that Philadelphia is not a very safe place. But, complaining doesn't help the situation. Take action to help. It's easy to call out problems. It's not easy to devote yourself to a solution.


I only bash it because it deserves to be bashed Aly....The murder rate has already climbed past 100 now and its just the start of spring...Philadelphia is fucked UP.....So much so that i dont even like hanging out there socially anymore.

[BlackAdder]

Give me a month of Martial Law in Filthadelphia with myself at the helm and ill show you some solution:)>

Sometimes the only solution to violence is ultra-violence....A bit of Alex DeLarge is occasionally in order.

And before you slam me, remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki......

[speck]

While I agree mostly with Vicki's post....

WTF is with the half balding guys in members only jackets? WTF?