Post-op beauties

[wrangler]

It is obvious from reading many threads that post-op women seem to be few and far between on this site (the site title "Hungangels" may have something to do with that...lol) but I am curious as to how many post-op women read this site. If you are post-op perhaps you could respond.
Also, does anyone have any advice as to where the heck one can go to meet (online dating services, clubs, etc.) post-op women. I can't seem to find any info. Any help would be appreciated....

[MrsKellyPierce]

It is obvious from reading many threads that post-op women seem to be few and far between on this site (the site title "Hungangels" may have something to do with that...lol) but I am curious as to how many post-op women read this site. If you are post-op perhaps you could respond.
Also, does anyone have any advice as to where the heck one can go to meet (online dating services, clubs, etc.) post-op women. I can't seem to find any info. Any help would be appreciated.... Most post op women will blend in after the change. But there are many in St. Petersburg, Florida. And I know what you mean about the attitude from the men on post op surgery. It's disgusting display of manners. From Nikki going post op to me posting pictures of Kelly VAn Der Veer post op and the video link of her getting totally nude. They were rude and callous, now if she had something hanging there their attitudes would be different

[TJT]

Yup,there ought to be more. Seeing post-op pics of Tuva years ago was one of the first things that piqued my interest in transsexuals.

[Kriss]

(IRONY WARNING) Yes , why not have a section just for genetic females, in fact why not re-name the site UN-HUNG ANGELS WHO HAVE NEVER HAD A COCK? Maybe a section on family planning and childbirth. (IRONY STOPS HERE)

Do you really think that many post op women want anything to do with this site? Sure Peggy Gee is always on hand to educate and inspire us but I feel that this is somewhat a community service on her part, I'm sure even Peggy wonders why she gives her time to clueing up us ignorant cock(+pussy) bandits. Post op women have thier SRS for a reason, to feel like and experience life as a 100% female, blend in or 'pass'. The post op women I know would NOT want thier image or any details plastered over a site for PRE-OP porn stars/producers/escorts. I think Peggy Gee will have the best answers for you as she is a knowledgeable POST OP spokeswoman but I expect that 90% of post op girls want to live just as girls, without being celebrated on Hung Angels for being born transgendered. Remember, VERY many girls here work in the sex industy primarily to pay for thier transition, surgery and especially SRS. When this has been acheived, you won't see these girls here again unless it is in a ""what happened to ?" thread, they will have moved on and hopefully be living happily as a female, not just known as a TS.
Kill this thread

[MrsKellyPierce]

New Pics of Kelly

[MrsKellyPierce]

yep

[Jake 3]

Speaking of post-ops. Here's one of my fantasy girls. I hope Mia doesn't mind

[Master_A]

thats been photoshopped, post op pussy's look shit and nothing like a real pussy.

why the hell would you want a post op anyway, only thing is no pms and no kids.

[MrsKellyPierce]

thats been photoshopped, post op pussy's look shit and nothing like a real pussy.

why the hell would you want a post op anyway, only thing is no pms and no kids. NOT TRUE!! Did you even see the video I posted of Kelly Van Der Veer..Her's isn't nasty! :roll:

[soulRipp]

no Disrespect and i can't speak for everyone but maybe you don't hear to much about post ops ts, is because if you want a pussy you will get a woman i tink most men go after ts because they are a lady with a liitle or alot of saomthing extra. I just think if you want pussy why not get you a gg. That's just my view i know some might not agree but that's how i feel

[Master_A]

thats been photoshopped, post op pussy's look shit and nothing like a real pussy.

why the hell would you want a post op anyway, only thing is no pms and no kids. NOT TRUE!! Did you even see the video I posted of Kelly Van Der Veer..Her's isn't nasty! :roll:

no i never saw a link.

dam you have great legs.

[MrsKellyPierce]

thats been photoshopped, post op pussy's look shit and nothing like a real pussy.

why the hell would you want a post op anyway, only thing is no pms and no kids. NOT TRUE!! Did you even see the video I posted of Kelly Van Der Veer..Her's isn't nasty! :roll:

no i never saw a link.

dam you have great legs. Thanks

http://www.vnotw.nl/overview.asp?Cat=56404&Video=24857&s=

[Master_A]

how can you tell from that crappy clip.

[hentai_ninja]

Speaking of post-ops. Here's one of my fantasy girls. I hope Mia doesn't mind
Well,atleast her breast look great.

[MrsKellyPierce]

how can you tell from that crappy clip. She was on the cover of Playboy

[strawberry]

<-------- Avatar of a post op :-P

Yeah, I'm here mostly because I think it's a little bit facetious to think that all the stuff transwomen tend to go through isn't worth thinking about and understanding... like yes, "having a healthy/normal life" and just blending in after SRS is good (heck, that's what I did before SRS too), but I think part of being healthy is acknowledging and understanding and being comfy with the ways I'm not normal :-P

...and actually I wouldn't be here strictly for that, there are better online forums for just transwomen. The reason I'm here is mostly to get a sense of what guys think about trans junk so I understand my guy better. The only men I've ever talked to about it all loved me so I assume they were sugar coating stuff... here I get to see a bit of what guys think (and what they think other guys think) about transwomen. And if there's lies and bias at least they have different motivations. Which I think is helping me undertand my guy's potential fears.

And now that I've lurked a bit, a piece of me is wondering also if there are girls deciding between post/non on the basis of the stuff that gets spread around and maybe I should respond to some of the the misinformation, like this:

thats been photoshopped, post op pussy's look shit and nothing like a real pussy.
Err... maybe from some surgeons decades ago? Or in places where socialized medicine still has treatment funneled through "gender clinics" that treat transpeople like insane freaks who should just shutup and do what the doctors say? Basically, if you go to a reputable surgeon in North America or Thailand it's all good nowadays. It's pretty routine for SRS results to pass during OB-GYN exams unless the patient decides to out herself to her doctor.


no Disrespect and i can't speak for everyone but maybe you don't hear to much about post ops ts, is because if you want a pussy you will get a woman i tink most men go after ts because they are a lady with a liitle or alot of saomthing extra. I just think if you want pussy why not get you a gg. That's just my view i know some might not agree but that's how i feel
Because of course the the most important thing when choosing a life partner is their genitals... it has nothing to do with, say, the content of their character or common goals and interests or great chemistry or... Oh wait, you were talking about "pussy" not women... >_<

[Kriss]

Yeah, I'm here mostly because I think it's a little bit facetious to think that all the stuff transwomen tend to go through isn't worth thinking about and understanding...

Don't understand this sentance. Does "facetious" mean I am full of faeces? I never said "that all the stuff transwomen tend to go through isn't worth thinking about and understanding... " , I just think that most guys here(and anywhere) are brainless morons who are a waste of time and will only "think about and understand" things on their deathbed.


The only men I've ever talked to about it all loved me so I assume they were sugar coating stuff... here I get to see a bit of what guys think

Sorry to be cynical but I think, sorry KNOW that most of the guys here 'sugar coat' thier responses. It seems like half of the guys here think Hung Angels is a nightclub where they can practice their 'game' and learn which lies are appropriate to Transwomen. Idiots. They think they can play the players. In my opinion there are about 20-30 guys here on HA that will post honestly and are not just writing what they pre-empt to be appealing to TS women, I can send you an updated list by PM if you like but most are fraud. I guess as a TS you are adept at seeing through thier bullshit. I have had more than enough of sugar coating my answers and find it very hard to pretend to be this or that, why the fuck should I just because someone "can't handle the truth"? On the other hand it is better if i at least try not to offend. For me it is a BIG issue , how to be honest and not feel compramised in any way, yet not being hurtful and too blunt. For years I treid to moderate what I said and all that happens is people don't know who I am. People , especially girlfriends will always try to over interpret things and I am CONSTANTLY being mis-interpreted(esp here, dry humour) so fuck 'em, I got my veiws(which are entirely correct) and if people CHOOSE to have a problem with me then they will always interpret me as they wish, unable to see the reality through thier ego and low self esteem issues. So why should I have to spell it out for them, they can realise what I really mean when they finally grow up. In my (extensive) experience, Girls do not want to hear the truth. they want to hear the 'right' lies. And also there is the whole being caught in a lie thing which is NEVER forgotten, that all just goes into the ammunition store for later deployment. Personally I thrive on being un-popular, If 90% of the fickle herd disagree with me then I know I am doing something right as it is really only the other 10% that i am interested in or value. Basically most guys here are SO full of shit and just ignorant about all women. They are young , dumb and full of cum. Wankers!


I should respond to some of the the misinformation, like this:
thats been photoshopped, post op pussy's look shit and nothing like a real pussy.
Err... maybe from some surgeons decades ago?

Master A is full of shit and probably 16 years old and has never even seen a real pussy in his life , GG or post -op TS. IDIOT. I give up wasting letters on these fools. FOR THE RECORD. Post op pussies can be TOTALLY CONVINCING. I know post op women who have had boyfreinds that had NO IDEA that their pussy was once not a pussy, for years!. The surgeons today CAN ACHEIVE AMAZING RESULTS. I have been with post op women whose pussy looks, feels and tastes just like a "Genetic girl's". I used to think that the SRS would be so complicated that you almost shouldn't mess with all that 'plumbing and wires' and I thought girls would be disappointed when they couldn't fit a MASSIVE cock in there. My advice to any TS women here considering SRS-----GO to it girls. If it's what you want then do it, just TALK to eachother, find out which surgeons to go to and do it, it's YOUR body, YOUR life so if you want it , do it, live your life , leave the porno and the tricks and the twisted cock-bandits to their sad exploitative pre-conceptions. I must say I am shocked at how effective the SRS can be. This is purely a MAN'S point of view but one I feel i should add to correct the numerous idiots that disrespect Post op women when they have not even been with one.
Master A and all who say ignorant stuff regarding post-op pussies, YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT.


because of course the the most important thing when choosing a life partner is their genitals... it has nothing to do with, say, the content of their character or common goals and interests or great chemistry or... Oh wait, you were talking about "pussy" not women... >_<

Sorry to point out the obvious Strawberry (and you are in my top 10 intelligent H.A. posters) but this site is hardly about "choosing a life partner ". Read these guy's bullshit but don't bother trying to educate them, they are a lost cause.

[marco8132]

She's gorgeous.

[ilovetgirls36]

no Disrespect and i can't speak for everyone but maybe you don't hear to much about post ops ts, is because if you want a pussy you will get a woman i tink most men go after ts because they are a lady with a liitle or alot of saomthing extra. I just think if you want pussy why not get you a gg. That's just my view i know some might not agree but that's how i feelditto....

[DopeBoy Magic]

Ummmm, who really would want a BYOL(bring your own lube) Pussy ??? Can't just roll over and fuck...u gotta plan out some shit.

But on da real, i do have a question.....are these women even able to orgasm anymore ??? do they have a fully functioning clit ??? and last but not least....do gg pussies stank ???

[peggygee]

no Disrespect and i can't speak for everyone but maybe you don't hear to much about post ops ts, is because if you want a pussy you will get a woman i tink most men go after ts because they are a lady with a liitle or alot of saomthing extra. I just think if you want pussy why not get you a gg. That's just my view i know some might not agree but that's how i feelditto....



Ummmm, who really would want a BYOL(bring your own lube) Pussy ??? Can't just roll over and fuck...u gotta plan out some shit.

But on da real, i do have a question.....are these women even able to orgasm anymore ??? do they have a fully functioning clit ??? and last but not least....do gg pussies stank ???

:roll:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/sackofhamersNET.jpg

[peggygee]

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/toocomplicate-1.jpg

http://www.hungangels.com/board/search.php?mode=results

[johnnyshemalelover]

I just think that most guys here(and anywhere) are brainless morons who are a waste of time and will only "think about and understand" things on their deathbed.

I'd say you're very optimistic.


my advice to any TS women here considering SRS-----GO to it girls. If it's what you want then do it, just TALK to eachother, find out which surgeons to go to and do it, it's YOUR body, YOUR life so if you want it , do it, live your life

There, that part was good.

As far as how surgically-created "vaginas" look, let's be real. Medical science hasn't developed to the point where they can create an organ. They'll most likely be able to transplant a pussy before they can actually grow one out of a person's cells, but they'll never in the foreseeable future be able to make one.

Without judging what's good or bad, nothing a doctor can create will look like a real vagina. I'm sorry, girls. I really am, it's a god-damned rotten shame, almost all the money for medical research goes to where the real profit is--not in making people well, but in developing drugs to sell them which keep them alive and comfortable. The technology to grow organs from one's own tissue exists, but very little effort is being put into developing it because there's little profit in it.

Regardless of what an individual preference is (whether it's for a vagina or a simulated vagina) there's no question about telling them apart.

[peggygee]

I just think that most guys here(and anywhere) are brainless morons who are a waste of time and will only "think about and understand" things on their deathbed.

I'd say you're very optimistic.


my advice to any TS women here considering SRS-----GO to it girls. If it's what you want then do it, just TALK to eachother, find out which surgeons to go to and do it, it's YOUR body, YOUR life so if you want it , do it, live your life

There, that part was good.

As far as how surgically-created "vaginas" look, let's be real. Medical science hasn't developed to the point where they can create an organ. They'll most likely be able to transplant a pussy before they can actually grow one out of a person's cells, but they'll never in the foreseeable future be able to make one.

Without judging what's good or bad, nothing a doctor can create will look like a real vagina. I'm sorry, girls. I really am, it's a god-damned rotten shame, almost all the money for medical research goes to where the real profit is--not in making people well, but in developing drugs to sell them which keep them alive and comfortable. The technology to grow organs from one's own tissue exists, but very little effort is being put into developing it because there's little profit in it.

Regardless of what an individual preference is (whether it's for a vagina or a simulated vagina) there's no question about telling them apart.

Johnny 'shemale' lover, we go over this about every 3.5 days. The post
op women, the guys who have been with post ops, say yes. The vagina
smells, tastes, looks and functions the same as a biological vagina.

Inevitabley the cock lover, the 'shemale' lovers will say no. They will trot
out a photo of a barely healed vagina in support of their argument.

Johnnyshemalelover, I notice that you write short stories, over in the
'shemale story' section. I suspect that they are works of fiction much
like the statements that you have made here.

I don't know if this was a creative writing exercise. And I truly do realize
how attached you guys are to the penis, and your love of the shemale.





They'll most likely be able to transplant a pussy before they can actually grow one out of a person's cells, but they'll never in the foreseeable future be able to make one.

Regardless of what an individual preference is (whether it's for a vagina or a simulated vagina) there's no question about telling them apart



But if you are going to attack us women and our vaginas, you are going
to have to do a helluva lot better.

So in conclusion, Johnnyshemalelover, Soulripp, and that stoner troll
DopeBoy Magic, fear not there will always be a dick for you to suck, or
get fucked by, it just won't be with a post op woman.

:shrug

[Jake 3]

To the guys that think it's surgically impossible to achieve a realistic functional vagina, take a look at these. I don't know which Dr.'s were responsible for the results but I think they're amazing!

[Nautica]

Peggygee.......I LIVEEEE!!!!!Hahahahaha........WOW!

P.S.

Have you heard anything about Dr.Brassard or who's EXCELLENT in the U.S.?

Nautica=^.^=

[johnnyshemalelover]

As far as how surgically-created "vaginas" look, let's be real. Medical science hasn't developed to the point where they can create an organ. They'll most likely be able to transplant a pussy before they can actually grow one out of a person's cells, but they'll never in the foreseeable future be able to make one.

Without judging what's good or bad, nothing a doctor can create will look like a real vagina. I'm sorry, girls. I really am, it's a god-damned rotten shame, almost all the money for medical research goes to where the real profit is--not in making people well, but in developing drugs to sell them which keep them alive and comfortable. The technology to grow organs from one's own tissue exists, but very little effort is being put into developing it because there's little profit in it.

Regardless of what an individual preference is (whether it's for a vagina or a simulated vagina) there's no question about telling them apart.

Johnny 'shemale' lover, we go over this about every 3.5 days. The post
op women, the guys who have been with post ops, say yes. The vagina
smells, tastes, looks and functions the same as a biological vagina.



No doubt some of them actually believe that. I could be wrong, but I haven't seen any non-photoshopped post-op photos as yet to indicate otherwise. If you can point me to some, I would appreciate it. If I'm wrong, I'll be happy about it for reasons that will become apparent if you read on.




Inevitabley the cock lover, the 'shemale' lovers will say no. They will trot
out a photo of a barely healed vagina in support of their argument.



I didn't "trot out a photo of a barely healed vagina." I used the photo posted Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:32 am in this thread by Kelly Shore of a TS who was on the cover of Playboy. Now who's making up stories?



Johnnyshemalelover, I notice that you write short stories, over in the
'shemale story' section. I suspect that they are works of fiction


Duh. I never presented them as anything else. :roll:




much like the statements that you have made here. I don't know if this was a creative writing exercise.


I apologize if my factual approach to a highly-charged emotional issue offends you. I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings by being realistic. Apparently the best "evidence" you can come up with that my statement about medical science not being able to create organs is untrue is that I have written some fiction. Wow.



And I truly do realize
how attached you guys are to the penis, and your love of the shemale.


Please don't refer to me as "you guys". Your apparent assumption is that I love penises so much, I somehow feel it necessary to believe that simulated vaginas aren't the same as the real thing. I've seen posts from guys for whom that may be true, but I am not one of them. I am pissed off that GRS isn't better than it is. There have been mind-boggling advances in biology in the last several decades, but nothing is being done with them. By now it would be possible to make the change without such painful surgery and make the change all the way down to the cellular level and beyond, to the DNA itself.





They'll most likely be able to transplant a pussy before they can actually grow one out of a person's cells, but they'll never in the foreseeable future be able to make one.

Regardless of what an individual preference is (whether it's for a vagina or a simulated vagina) there's no question about telling them apart




But if you are going to attack us women and our vaginas, you are going
to have to do a helluva lot better.

That was uncharacteristically rude of you. I never attacked anyone. You apparently have a shitload of baggage from people who have attacked and have been rude about GRS. Naturally a lot of tgirl lovers feel threatened when a tgirl has GRS and are going to attack. Lumping me in with them is maybe understandable due to the many nasty comments I've seen about women who have completed the change, but I invite you to look a little deeper--that's not where I'm coming from at all.

Naturally people who have had or want to have the full change are going to feel threatened by anything they construe as someone saying the surgery didn't work. I can't imagine how much suffering being born into the wrong gender body would cause, but I can understand the sensitivity about GRS and about anyone seen as criticizing the result.

Please understand where I'm coming from on this. If someone born male says she's always felt like a female, I accept that she is a female, regardless of genes, hormones or body parts--because I believe that a person is a mind rather than a body. When the dick goes, I'm not thinking about how that's one dick I'll never get to suck or get fucked by, because the odds are a million to one that I never would have gotten together with that person anyway--and my liking for dick is nothing compared to the intensity of feeling it would have to take for someone to want GRS.

Furthermore, I believe it's possible to grow an actual vagina (as well as other organs such as hearts, livers, etc.) with enough development of medical technology in that area. Baby steps have been taken over the past 20 years, but the big money goes into drug research because that's where the profit is--not in making a person well, but in making them comfortable in their illness or keeping them alive by selling them drugs for the rest of their life. People will pay an incredible amount of money to be comfortable, and will pay anything to stay alive.

I advocate putting a hundred times more money into organ generation and gene therapy as is being spent now. Someday it will probably be possible to change ones' genes from male to female or vice-versa. That's what I'm talking about! Medicine! Growing not just a vagina from one's own tissues, but an entire reproductive system, so she can have kids if she wants, and never has to take hormones because her body will naturally produce female hormones in the proper ratio.

Medicine is a big deal for me. As bad as socialist medicine is, capitalist medicine is no better and in some ways worse, because the focus is on profit rather than making people well.

And if you're a man trapped in a woman's body or a woman trapped in a man's body, you aren't really well until your body has been fully changed in the best way possible. GRS in its current state might be the best option available right now but it's very poor compared to what could be done right now if medical research was guided by the desire to heal people rather than to profit from them.

[johnnyshemalelover]

To the guys that think it's surgically impossible to achieve a realistic functional vagina, take a look at these. I don't know which Dr.'s were responsible for the results but I think they're amazing!

The first photo isn't very clear, but the second one is truly amazing. You can still tell, but not easily. If I didn't know beforehand that it was a surgery, I probably wouldn't have suspected it from that photo.

I'm glad some surgeons have gotten very good, but I still look forward to the day when an actual female reproductive system can be grown from one's own cells.