COULD A TS HANDLE A REAL RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU??????

[Kriss]

COULD A TS HANDLE A REAL RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU?

Discuss.............

BTW, girl's opinions VERY welcome, it's not just a question to guys, I just had to invert the original topic title.

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=2859

[Azanti]

You would have ask her that, whenever I meet her....

[MrsKellyPierce]

lmao

[Ecstatic]

Yes, but you'd have to ask her!!! I'm married, so an LTR is not in the cards for me, but theoretically speaking, there are no issues on my part. She might not want to meet my 6'4" 250 lb Italian brother-in-law (homophobic much, never mind transphobic), but otherwise, no issues here.

[ezed]

COULD A TS HANDLE A REAL RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU?

Discuss.............

BTW, girl's opinions VERY welcome, it's not just a question to guys, I just had to invert the original topic title.

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=2859

Who the hell knows. If it happens it happen, if doesn't it doesn't. It's a question of the gelling of individuals not a matching of colors, creeds, genders, sexual prefrences or hobbies. There are no general answers.

[Kriss]

Who the hell knows. If it happens it happen, if doesn't it doesn't. It's a question of the gelling of individuals not a matching of colors, creeds, genders, sexual prefrences or hobbies. There are no general answers.

Everyone is saying this but maybe there ARE generalisations to be made(where's vicki when you need her?:wink:). O.K. more specifically
COULD A TS HANDLE A REAL RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU DESPITE THE EXTRA INTERNAL PARANOIAS, INSECURITIES AND EXTERNAL SOCIAL PRESSURES THAT GO WITH TRANSGENDER RELATIONSHIPS??????

YES it is a 'smart ass' question but i think there are issues specific to what a TS woman needs from a relationship which differ from 'g' partnerships.
The other thread was simple to answer, guys say either yes i am man enough or no, i'm a coward. Looking from the TS woman's point of view it is more complex. If for example you are fully accepting of your girl's TS status, will she secretly harbour the latent fear that you are in some way attracted to her for only that reason, clearly a problem. Yet if perhaps you were not aware of her status, will she always fear eventually being 'read' or exposed and then rejected. TS girlfriends and most of the girls here seem slightly obsessed by their 'boyfriend's' "straightness", his total lack of femininity and yet he must have an encyclopedic understanding and acceptance of transgender issues. He has to proudly show her off to his family yet have no previous TS girlfriends. I feel like 'G' girls will find a less than perfect man with "potential" and set about moulding, manipulating and eventually nagging him into roughly the shape of man they can accept. TS girls think every next guy is mr perfect and then send him on an assualt course of tests, tasks and traps. a kind of 'hazing' or test of endurance to see if you make the grade. If your guy loved you as a woman WITH your cock, and you get SRS, would you ditch him for a guy that only has experience of pussy out of some fear that the prvious boyfriend was ever so slighty into cock and therefore that is a threat to one's sense of femininity~?

[Fox]

I'll tell you like this, if a gg can handle a relationship with me, so can a ts, depending on where her head is at (pun not intended). I'm not a complicated cat, and she wouldn't be my dirty little secret, so the rest is more or less falls on her.

[Kriss]

I'm not a complicated cat, and she wouldn't be my dirty little secret, so the rest is more or less falls on her.

But that is my point really . TS women ARE complicated cats, I just want to see some views on why and how this is overcome. All the guys are saying "yeah, it could work" but do you think relationships with TS women are perhaps more fragile or dare I say it 'High Maintainance' due to the huge obstacles TS women must overcome in transitioning. Does this struggle to be at ease in herself/body leave TS women with more (designer)'baggage' to bring into a relationship?

btw: fox, LOVE the signiture comment, that avatar pic scares me tho, looks like you are about to be-head some poor infidel.

COOL, HE CHANGED IT ALREADY!

[ezed]

Who the hell knows. If it happens it happen, if doesn't it doesn't. It's a question of the gelling of individuals not a matching of colors, creeds, genders, sexual prefrences or hobbies. There are no general answers.

Everyone is saying this but maybe there ARE generalisations to be made(where's vicki when you need her?:wink:). O.K. more specifically
COULD A TS HANDLE A REAL RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU DESPITE THE EXTRA INTERNAL PARANOIAS, INSECURITIES AND EXTERNAL SOCIAL PRESSURES THAT GO WITH TRANSGENDER RELATIONSHIPS??????

YES it is a 'smart ass' question but i think there are issues specific to what a TS woman needs from a relationship which differ from 'g' partnerships.
The other thread was simple to answer, guys say either yes i am man enough or no, i'm a coward. Looking from the TS woman's point of view it is more complex. If for example you are fully accepting of your girl's TS status, will she secretly harbour the latent fear that you are in some way attracted to her for only that reason, clearly a problem. Yet if perhaps you were not aware of her status, will she always fear eventually being 'read' or exposed and then rejected. TS girlfriends and most of the girls here seem slightly obsessed by their 'boyfriend's' "straightness", his total lack of femininity and yet he must have an encyclopedic understanding and acceptance of transgender issues. He has to proudly show her off to his family yet have no previous TS girlfriends. I feel like 'G' girls will find a less than perfect man with "potential" and set about moulding, manipulating and eventually nagging him into roughly the shape of man they can accept. TS girls think every next guy is mr perfect and then send him on an assualt course of tests, tasks and traps. a kind of 'hazing' or test of endurance to see if you make the grade. If your guy loved you as a woman WITH your cock, and you get SRS, would you ditch him for a guy that only has experience of pussy out of some fear that the prvious boyfriend was ever so slighty into cock and therefore that is a threat to one's sense of femininity~?

too many words man, see you tommorrow

[TJT]

I've got the feeling I'm nearing the end of marriage number 3,so my answer would be "no".

Why would T-girls be different than anyone else whose had to deal w/ me? My good looks and charm only mask the cynical old bastard that lives within.

[Fox]

LOL yeah, it does look like I'm a certain extremist group member.

And yeah, I see your point about how a tgirl might be the complicated one which is why I said depending on where her head is at and the rest falling on her.

I certainly do think a relationship like that has the capacity to be more fragile or high maintenance, and I'm not sure how one would go about reasssuing and putting her at ease, but truthfully, I'm in no position to give an accurate assessment. Unless I date a large number of them, which isn't too probable. ;)

Hm, I think we'd get more insight if the ladies posted.

[lust4ts]

Everyone is saying this but maybe there ARE generalisations to be made(where's vicki when you need her?). O.K. more specifically
COULD A TS HANDLE A REAL RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU DESPITE THE EXTRA INTERNAL PARANOIAS, INSECURITIES AND EXTERNAL SOCIAL PRESSURES THAT GO WITH TRANSGENDER RELATIONSHIPS??????

YES it is a 'smart ass' question but i think there are issues specific to what a TS woman needs from a relationship which differ from 'g' partnerships.
The other thread was simple to answer, guys say either yes i am man enough or no, i'm a coward. Looking from the TS woman's point of view it is more complex. If for example you are fully accepting of your girl's TS status, will she secretly harbour the latent fear that you are in some way attracted to her for only that reason, clearly a problem. Yet if perhaps you were not aware of her status, will she always fear eventually being 'read' or exposed and then rejected. TS girlfriends and most of the girls here seem slightly obsessed by their 'boyfriend's' "straightness", his total lack of femininity and yet he must have an encyclopedic understanding and acceptance of transgender issues. He has to proudly show her off to his family yet have no previous TS girlfriends. I feel like 'G' girls will find a less than perfect man with "potential" and set about moulding, manipulating and eventually nagging him into roughly the shape of man they can accept. TS girls think every next guy is mr perfect and then send him on an assualt course of tests, tasks and traps. a kind of 'hazing' or test of endurance to see if you make the grade. If your guy loved you as a woman WITH your cock, and you get SRS, would you ditch him for a guy that only has experience of pussy out of some fear that the prvious boyfriend was ever so slighty into cock and therefore that is a threat to one's sense of femininity~?


You have made some adequate points Kriss, but these are the sort of questions that can only be answered in practice and not in theory.

Every relationship has issues, what you said about the SRS thing could be similar to a guy meeting a girl when she is slim, but then due to whatever reasons (maybe child birth) she gains weight and she then has insecurities about how her partner now perceives her and whether he still loves her the same (this may sound more trivial but many a relationship has diminished due to problems such as this).

I guess what I am saying is every relationship has to grow and evolve whether it is with a TS or not, as a philosopher once said "Love will conquer all".

[mikey_stl]

I'm not a complicated cat, and she wouldn't be my dirty little secret, so the rest is more or less falls on her.

But that is my point really . TS women ARE complicated cats, I just want to see some views on why and how this is overcome. All the guys are saying "yeah, it could work" but do you think relationships with TS women are perhaps more fragile or dare I say it 'High Maintainance' due to the huge obstacles TS women must overcome in transitioning. Does this struggle to be at ease in herself/body leave TS women with more (designer)'baggage' to bring into a relationship?

btw: fox, LOVE the signiture comment, that avatar pic scares me tho, looks like you are about to be-head some poor infidel.

COOL, HE CHANGED IT ALREADY!

I tend to be attracted to GGs who are complicated, which is one reason I'm attracted to TGs. In fact, that's probably one reason I'm drawn to TSs in the first place. They seem to have substantial issues with trust, for example. Most of the GGs I've been attracted to (and who have also been attracted to me) have also had similar issues. I'm not drawn to someone who's a total basket case, but I do find beautiful women who are somewhat neurotic to be more interesting than those who seemingly have it all together.

There are, of course, other aspects of the relationship that are important to me, as well -- common interests, similar philosophical and spiritual beliefs, etc.

That's why I answered, yes, but complicated, in the poll. It seems like there's quite a bit that needs to come together before a serious relationship can develop.

[Kriss]

You have made some adequate points Kriss, but these are the sort of questions that can only be answered in practice and not in theory.


Then get some 'practice' and tell me what you think. Almost everything that is wrote on this site is "theory", from guys with no clue about girls and girls with no clue about what they really want form life.
Sorry i'm going to be like this all day. maybe it's my period or something :soapbox It's not good enough toi simply say "every relationship has it's problems" . Now this has become the "cowardly thread" where guys are scared of alienating the girls by daring to suggest that TS women might possibly be adapt at making thier lives even more complicated and uncertain. Sure every relationship has to grow, what i am saying is that TS women cannot allow the relationship to grow if they have so many rigid expectations and misconceived preconceptions which of course can totally change from day to day. I put it to you good sir that many TS women "CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" and have so many self destructive urges
that any chance at a real relationship are skuppered before they have left port.

That should stir it up a bit............................

[Kriss]

They seem to have substantial issues with trust, for example..

Thank you thank you thank you. A quality response, no bullshit, no 'game'.


I'm not drawn to someone who's a total basket case, but I do find beautiful women who are somewhat neurotic to be more interesting than those who seemingly have it all together

Why is this man? Do you feel that you have something to give these "somewhat neurotic" women? is that due to your character as a guy with patience and emotional strength? are YOU better suited to crazy, needy women because you have some deep seated 'daddy' complex? I'm just projecting here whatever the fuck that means. Sometimes i wonder if it's MY fault, do I collect fucked up, insecure, emotionally damaged girls so that I can 'heal' them and thus fulfill my own self-perpetuating relationship issues

[Taom]

Could a ts handle a real relationship with me?

are you serious? I don't even want to put up with me half of the time, why would I put someone else through that hell? :P

but seriously, it depends on how two people get along. and as far as a long term relationship, that depends on alotta things. so you're not gonna get a blanket answer on this one. two people either are compatible or their not.

[Kriss]

so you're not gonna get a blanket answer on this one.

The whole point of the thread is NOT to get a 'blanket' answer. if that was the case it would be just a poll with no option to add opinion. give an individual answer about individual cases and why individual TS women are crazier than other individual TS women.

[peggygee]

YES it is a 'smart ass' question but i think there are issues specific to what a TS woman needs from a relationship which differ from 'g' partnerships.

The other thread was simple to answer, guys say either yes i am man enough or no, i'm a coward. Looking from the TS woman's point of view it is more complex.

If for example you are fully accepting of your girl's TS status, will she secretly harbour the latent fear that you are in some way attracted to her for only that reason, clearly a problem. Yet if perhaps you were not aware of her status, will she always fear eventually being 'read' or exposed and then rejected.

TS girlfriends and most of the girls here seem slightly obsessed by their 'boyfriend's' "straightness", his total lack of femininity and yet he must have an encyclopedic understanding and acceptance of transgender issues. He has to proudly show her off to his family yet have no previous TS girlfriends.

I feel like 'G' girls will find a less than perfect man with "potential" and set about moulding, manipulating and eventually nagging him into roughly the shape of man they can accept. TS girls think every next guy is mr perfect and then send him on an assualt course of tests, tasks and traps. a kind of 'hazing' or test of endurance to see if you make the grade.

If your guy loved you as a woman WITH your cock, and you get SRS, would you ditch him for a guy that only has experience of pussy out of some fear that the prvious boyfriend was ever so slighty into cock and therefore that is a threat to one's sense of femininity~?

I do not know the transwomen that you have known, thus I don't
know what your experiences have been with them.

Further, if you are solely using the women on this forum as
your statistical sample your assessment may be skewed.



so you're not gonna get a blanket answer on this one.

The whole point of the thread is NOT to get a 'blanket' answer. if that was the case it would be just a poll with no option to add opinion. give an individual answer about individual cases and why individual TS women are crazier than other individual TS women.

Thus rather than attempt to speak for the entire Sisterhood on this matter,
I will only speak from my frame of reference.

For me, my life is basically like any other womens life. I go to work, I pay
bills, I have friends and family that I love and that love me.

I don't escort, drink or do drugs. I don't go to gay or tranny clubs, but
then again I don't go to straight nightclubs either, as I am an addict with
10 years clean time.

Relationship wise, I meet men either in the real world or in cyber-space,
but for the most part, they don't meet my requirements, I guess as you
get older you get more particular.

Men don't disrespect me. Why? Because I don't allow them to. I am very
up front with what I expect in a relationship, and from them. My level
of self esteem and self awareness doesn't allow me to have people
be verbally, psychologically or physically abusive to me. Wasn't always
the case, but that's what growing as a person is about.

On this issue;




TS girlfriends and most of the girls here seem slightly obsessed by their 'boyfriend's' "straightness", his total lack of femininity and yet he must have an encyclopedic understanding and acceptance of transgender issues. He has to proudly show her off to his family yet have no previous TS girlfriends.


I have been fortunate that the majority of men that I have been with were
not interested in cock, particularly as I did not derive much pleasure from
mine.

Would I mind that he had been with other transwomen, depends. If he still
felt a need to be promiscous and be with other women, then 'we' would
not be an option, this applies to trans or natal females equally.

I also in all likelihood wouldn't be in a relationship with anyone that had a
craving for cock, as I would be apprehensive that he might be creeping
to have those needs fulfilled elsewhere.

Does he need to have an encyclopedic understanding and acceptance of
all things trans, no. For as I have previously stated my life has evolved
from living in a tranny ghetto, and being obsessed with things pertaining
to transsexuality.

I am a multi - faceted woman with a broad range of interests and
concerns, and an excellent sense of self worth, as are many other
transwomen, I truly hope that you will get a chance to meet more of us.

[Kriss]

As always pure reason and sense Peggy, thank you for answering my real questions while overlooking the immature bullshit i pepper my posts with. You really have answered so many questions and given me a lot to ponder. Thanks for having the patience to teach this remedial student. I need to do some more homework.

[peggygee]

As always pure reason and sense Peggy, thank you for answering my real questions while overlooking the immature bullshit i pepper my posts with. You really have answered so many questions and given me a lot to ponder. Thanks for having the patience to teach this remedial student. I need to do some more homework.

I was just speaking from the heart.

And thanks for the apple. :wink:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/teacher1.jpg

[lust4ts]

Then get some 'practice' and tell me what you think. Almost everything that is wrote on this site is "theory", from guys with no clue about girls and girls with no clue about what they really want form life.
Sorry i'm going to be like this all day. maybe it's my period or something It's not good enough toi simply say "every relationship has it's problems" . Now this has become the "cowardly thread" where guys are scared of alienating the girls by daring to suggest that TS women might possibly be adapt at making thier lives even more complicated and uncertain. Sure every relationship has to grow, what i am saying is that TS women cannot allow the relationship to grow if they have so many rigid expectations and misconceived preconceptions which of course can totally change from day to day. I put it to you good sir that many TS women "CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" and have so many self destructive urges
that any chance at a real relationship are skuppered before they have left port.

That should stir it up a bit............................


Damn Kriss, I take it someone kicked in the nuts recently.... and it is still hurting. :lol:

Seriously though as I said, I think this is a good thread that asked some interesting questions, especially to us guys who are not exactly experienced when it comes to LTR’s with Transgender people.

I think Peggy has come up with a good point, some of these issues perceived by your good self may be slightly blurred due to your subject matter, (i.e. - the girls who post on this forum), to really be able to test these theories a wider spectrum of source material would have to be used to gain a more definitive answer.

I certainly am not an expert, that is why I did not try to answer your questions and rather opted for simply trying to express that just because something might be complicated (in this case a happy relationship with a TS), it is certainly not unreachable.
I do stand by my point that if the love is strong enough, almost any issue can be resolved.

Finally just a for being a little too general, you know I like you Kriss, so I hope you take this pic in the right way............

[mikey_stl]

mikey_stl wrote:
I'm not drawn to someone who's a total basket case, but I do find beautiful women who are somewhat neurotic to be more interesting than those who seemingly have it all together


Why is this man? Do you feel that you have something to give these "somewhat neurotic" women? is that due to your character as a guy with patience and emotional strength? are YOU better suited to crazy, needy women because you have some deep seated 'daddy' complex? I'm just projecting here whatever the fuck that means. Sometimes i wonder if it's MY fault, do I collect fucked up, insecure, emotionally damaged girls so that I can 'heal' them and thus fulfill my own self-perpetuating relationship issues
_________________

Yes, I do feel that I have something to give them: I seem to understand them. I'm not sure why, but there's a definite pattern in the women that I tend to get along with best. And yes, I suppose they are drawn to my patience and emotional strength.

I think on some very basic level we meet one another's most deep-seated needs. I don't see it as a bad thing -- I suppose it could be if I exploited a woman's weaknesses to manipulate her or use her -- and then discard her when I'm finished. And to a small degree, there are times I've done that in the past.

Fortunately, I'm not a cold, heartless person by nature -- just the opposite, in fact; I'm a warm and caring person. The more in tune with my own emotions I become, the harder it is for me to hurt someone. This is especially true for someone who I know is hurting already in some way -- I don't want to do anything to compound her pain. I don't want to destroy the fragile trust that's developed between us. I do whatever I can to nurture that trust.

Unfortunately, there are times when the trust issues are so deep and overpowering to the woman that she can't get past them, no matter what I do. People who are always looking for a reason not to trust can always find it -- even if they have to manufacture it in their own imagination.

Of course, everyone has some issues, but like I said, there does seem to be a pattern with me. I'm not sure that's a bad thing, though. Unfortunately, I suppose I have my own trust issues in all this. I'm always afraid that I'll help a woman back to a healthier frame of mind -- and then she'll find someone else.

As far as the "daddy" complex, there's probably something to that, as well. Most of those I'm drawn to and are drawn to me, tend to be younger -- and often tend to have serious issues with their own fathers. Sometimes they carry those issues into the sexual part of the relationship. Sometimes there's no sex involved at all -- just a platonic friendship, which is also fine with me. Sometimes there has been sexual abuse, and the lack of trust stems from that.

Anyway, I hope I've provided some insights.

[Kriss]

I think on some very basic level we meet one another's most deep-seated needs. I don't see it as a bad thing -- I suppose it could be if I exploited a woman's weaknesses to manipulate her or use her -- and then discard her when I'm finished. And to a small degree, there are times I've done that in the past.

Got to applaud your honesty mate :claps


the harder it is for me to hurt someone. This is especially true for someone who I know is hurting already in some way -- I don't want to do anything to compound her pain.

Unfortunately, there are times when the trust issues are so deep and overpowering to the woman that she can't get past them, no matter what I do. People who are always looking for a reason not to trust can always find it -- even if they have to manufacture it in their own imagination.

Unfortunately, I suppose I have my own trust issues in all this. I'm always afraid that I'll help a woman back to a healthier frame of mind -- and then she'll find someone else.


WORD AND DOUBLE F**K!NG WORD BUDDY. I am TOTALLY hearing you on this one :rock2

[muttley]

Nope, I am insane.
(I threw my medication away)

I do crazy things.
Like this onetime..........

[Kriss]

I think you're trying to wire things too deep. I think this whole thread would be a real turn off to a prospective transsexual partner.

1 Who are you addressing? quote and respond or address your comments to someone by name. many people have posted so you could be talking to anyone. it is rude and lazy.

2 are all your posts on Hung Angels influenced by what you think "would be a real turn off to a prospective transsexual partner"? do you really think I need to sugar coat my opinions in case the working girls that promote themselves here will think less of me? who are YOU pretending to be silvester? Do you think this is a dating website or something?

3 You are full if shit silvester and all your posts that I have read are full of shit. Ignorant, presumpteous, slimy, basically you are a pseud silvester. your comments never add anything to any thread, you have no opinions based on fact, experience or understanding, it's all just supposition. What have you posted that really made anyone think or even provoked an interesting response? I don't like you and I have never liked you, I see through your bullshit routine in seconds, You think I can't work you out already from just a few dumb comments? You're a poser, a fraud, affected, snide and sneering so try it on someone else.

[Kriss]

LMAO... But don't you understand Kriss that this never ending talk of trying to treat a TG differently to a HUMAN BEING is, shall we say, pretentious... Do you think they really give a flying fuck about your POV... Go figure...

You're full of shit, 100% theory, You have no experience of the real world, show yourself fraud. WHAT THE FUCK IS pov? What is lmao? I don't speak two year old child language, you must translate. and if you are not american STOP writing "go figure". You are either a girl or gay to speak this way. You don't know my life you little cunt, i really don't have to pretend anything to you or any other fucker so keep your snide little digs to yourself. This thread and every other of my posts are hardly aimed at you are they? I want responses from people that have some experience here, not pathetic little cunts posing behind a girls avater. Why put Ms paris's pic there, are YOU that disgusting? You keep writing about "they" by which i presume you mean the girls who frequent this site. Wake up you silly little prick, "they" are escorts!!!!! "they" "only give a flying fuck about" the money in your pocket. Any man who writes here is marked as a waste of time,cock bandit, faceless wanker before he even gets his bankroll out. You really think I would try to impress these girls? If you think "they" "give a flying fuck about" your fake , asskissing posts you are thicker than you previously implied. The girls here would never genuinely consider dating an H.A. member so why try to be so smooth silvester? Just speak your mind if you have something to add, if not shut the fuck up. you only ever post a comment to snipe or find fault in a previous post. you have nothing of value or intellect to add. Do you really think I want to cultivate a LTR with an escort or porn star that posts on this board? you stupid little moron. this board is about discussion, debate, not projecting an image to a bunch of girls 2000 miles away in america? You in England? lets meet. London tomorrow? lets "chat" in person and we will see how much of a smart ass coward you really are. PM ME BITCH.................................

[rvince]

_ANY_ relashionship is complicated :-)

[Kriss]

_ANY_ relashionship is complicated :-)

Are you talking about me and silvester? :lol:

[Kriss]

, I think this is a good thread that asked some interesting questions,

Er thanks man, but really the title and whole thread was kinda a smartass joke that i coulda posted in the original thread, I just didnt want to hijack that more serious topic with the polar opposite veiwpoint, plus i wanted to provoke a reaction (hey girls, you ain't the only ones) by pushing uncomfortable buttons. Eventually people will just ignore me like those mad old tramps at kings cross station who shout at pigeons while FURIOUSLY masturbating, I reckon I'll be there in about 6 months.

[Jericho]

, I think this is a good thread that asked some interesting questions,

Er thanks man, but really the title and whole thread was kinda a smartass joke that i coulda posted in the original thread, I just didnt want to hijack that more serious topic with the polar opposite veiwpoint, plus i wanted to provoke a reaction (hey girls, you ain't the only ones) by pushing uncomfortable buttons. Eventually people will just ignore me like those mad old tramps at kings cross station who shout at pigeons while FURIOUSLY masturbating, I reckon I'll be there in about 6 months.

I think six months is....Optomistic! :P

[LTR_Seeker]

Yes they can handle it if you can handle it its takes 2 to tango compromise & sacrifice.

[LTR_Seeker]

And also they can handle it if the guy wnats them no them personally there mind there likes & desires too many % of men think ts is just sex crazed sex machine i talked with alot of ts women they do like stuff besides bedroom adventures.

[martin48]

I know of one ts who could possibly handle a lasting real relationship though it would be difficult for her. Getting to where she is now has been hard and she lacks deep-rooted self-confidence and distrusts people - many relationships have broke up early. Though she actively dates guys and does not tell them her history, they always seem to leave after a few active sessions. Maybe they detect that she is ts, maybe her personality is at fault - she is very strong willed (strange as deep down she has great doubts about her self). I know her history and though we are close, she will not let me spend the night with her. I can but dream.

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[lisaparadise]

this is one of the silliest questions i have read on here,why the heck do you think we are different from a genetic girl just cause we have a bulge in our bikinis doesnt make us aliens for gods sake but i will speak from the heart here so listen up,i am a single 43 year old fulltime mom with a real life just like you,i go on school trips with my daughters class just like you,i go to the grocery store just like you,i take my kids out to dinner just like you,why in the world would anyone think we dont life real lives and are just like you? i am single because of choice i have everything i need and want for nothing yet sometimes ya it would be nice to find a soulmate to marry and settle down with,i really like this man named jim who lives in florida and maybe down the road ill fall deeply in love and live happily ever after but thats alog way down the road.the truth is ive never been on a date since ive transitioned not that i havent been asked cause i have alot but ive never really been ready now that my transition is almost complete i will defenatly date and am looking forward to it,but for now im still lisaparadise shemale escort etc,but dont think for one moment that thats all i am cause i am everything to my 2 kids and nothing ever will compete with that