Are you guys into Shemales only or do you go for TVs and CDs

[trisexual]

I'm really not into guys. I'm all about transexuals, CDs and TVs, especially those with a great body. I'd bottom for a well endowed male. Transexuals have the look and feel of a female with a little something extra.

[callahac]

It's all good.

[peggygee]

I see that it's time for our bi-monthly discussion
of appropriate terms to use in reference to transwomen.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/respect.jpg


Terms that will keep me off the soapbox :soapbox :

You will not go wrong with these: women, ladies,
female, transwomen, transsexual, transgender, t-girl,
transperson.

Gender variant and gender dysphoric person are okay but sound
very clinical. TS and TG also are acceptable as abbreviations.

And just between you, me and the 10,000 other people reading
this, using any of the above terms will endear you to a trans -
woman quicker and more effectively than calling her a "she-male',
'he-she', 'shim', 'lady boy', tranny and the like, which are all
perjorative or deragatory terms created by the porn industry
for marketing purposes.

[blackmagic]

As peggygee above mentioned. Show a little respect to ts woman and don't insult them by using this degrading term.

I just had to intervene and say, did ya think about that comment when you posted on a shemale forum?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

lighten
the
fuck
up

[peggygee]

As peggygee above mentioned. Show a little respect to ts woman and don't insult them by using this degrading term.

Is it so hard to use the brain and care about other ones feelings? :x

Thank you Mr. Blonde.
Will that be shaken or stirred...
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/gold.jpg

[peggygee]

As peggygee above mentioned. Show a little respect to ts woman and don't insult them by using this degrading term.

I just had to intervene and say, did ya think about that comment when you posted on a shemale forum?

Mr. Magic, just so you so you know.

You have been walking on thin ice with me for quite some time,
but I will not utilize this thread to go into anything with you right
now.

But both I and my computers have a very good memory, of this
and other inflammatory comments that you have made.

And I am not just referring to the 'shemale' comment you just
made.

On that note I am out.

On to the next thread.

[blackmagic]

As peggygee above mentioned. Show a little respect to ts woman and don't insult them by using this degrading term.

I just had to intervene and say, did ya think about that comment when you posted on a shemale forum?

Mr. Magic, just so you so you know.

You have been walking on thin ice with me for quite some time,
but I will not utilize this thread to go into anything with you right
now.

But both I and my computers have a very good memory, of this
and other inflammatory comments that you have made.

And I am not just referring to the 'shemale' comment you just
made.

On that note I am out.

On to the next thread.

LOL........... well glad to see you have an open minded perspective on what people say :wink:

[MrsKellyPierce]

Transexuals have the look and feel of a male with a little something extra.[/quote] What transexuals are you sleeping with? Body Builders? Most transexuals are soft from hormones... :roll:

[trisexual]

meant to say feel of a female. Not male.

[Coroner]

I never thought this would be an issue here. Why am I here? I want to get in touch with a world I don´t have access to in real life. I don´t know anybody I could talk to about this even my sister but I never tried to. I´m here because my attraction to Transsexual women, not guys in women´s dresses. And I thought this is supposed to be a board for those who love Transsexual women and that CD/TV category is more a gay topic because they´re nothing than guys who dress as women and live in double roles. That´s respectless to the transwomen that feel like women and live like women.

Trisexual is not into guys but into guys with wigs and their mother´s clothes. Wtf is this supposed to mean? I mean, where´s the difference? If somebody of the guys here dresses as a woman for fun or a costume party, you´d jerk off and say that you´re not into guys...... huh??

[trisexual]

I never thought this would be an issue here. Why am I here? I want to get in touch with a world I don´t have access to in real life. I don´t know anybody I could talk to about this even my sister but I never tried to. I´m here because my attraction to Transsexual women, not guys in women´s dresses. And I thought this is supposed to be a board for those who love Transsexual women and that CD/TV category is more a gay topic because they´re nothing than guys who dress as women and live in double roles. That´s respectless to the transwomen that feel like women and live like women.

Trisexual is not into guys but into guys with wigs and their mother´s clothes. Wtf is this supposed to mean? I mean, where´s the difference? If somebody of the guys here dresses as a woman for fun or a costume party, you´d jerk off and say that you´re not into guys...... huh??It's funny Coroner says that...last time I checked MtoF meant they were born male. And the last time I checked, how did a lot (not all) of TS get started? What, as CDs and TVs...oh wow. Guess you didn't know that.

And correct me if I 'm wrong but did I say I'd sleep with all CDs? Or even all transsexuals for that matter? Find where I said that. As far as males, no I do not find males attractive. Meaning you. Although you appear to act more feminine than masculine anyhow.

[francisfkudrow]

I see that it's time for our bi-monthly discussion
of appropriate terms to use in reference to transwomen.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/respect.jpg


Terms that will keep me off the soapbox :soapbox :

You will not go wrong with these: women, ladies,
female, transwomen, transsexual, transgender, t-girl,
transperson.

Gender variant and gender dysphoric person are okay but sound
very clinical. TS and TG also are acceptable as abbreviations.

And just between you, me and the 10,000 other people reading
this, using any of the above terms will endear you to a trans -
woman quicker and more effectively than calling her a "she-male',
'he-she', 'shim', 'lady boy', tranny and the like, which are all
perjorative or deragatory terms created by the porn industry
for marketing purposes.

Whenever this debate reoccurs, it always strikes me as odd, that right there at the top of every page on this site is the phrase "10 Free Minutes of Shemale Video on Demand for HungAngels Members - Click Here".

If the term "shemale" is offensive (and I'm not saying it isn't), shouldn't the title this link be rephrased?

[Jennifer_English]

Personally I dont find the word shemale offensive at all...

Call me what ya like... I am ME

:O)

x

[Coroner]

I never thought this would be an issue here. Why am I here? I want to get in touch with a world I don´t have access to in real life. I don´t know anybody I could talk to about this even my sister but I never tried to. I´m here because my attraction to Transsexual women, not guys in women´s dresses. And I thought this is supposed to be a board for those who love Transsexual women and that CD/TV category is more a gay topic because they´re nothing than guys who dress as women and live in double roles. That´s respectless to the transwomen that feel like women and live like women.

Trisexual is not into guys but into guys with wigs and their mother´s clothes. Wtf is this supposed to mean? I mean, where´s the difference? If somebody of the guys here dresses as a woman for fun or a costume party, you´d jerk off and say that you´re not into guys...... huh??It's funny Coroner says that...last time I checked MtoF meant they were born male. And the last time I checked, how did a lot (not all) of TS get started? What, as CDs and TVs...oh wow. Guess you didn't know that.

And correct me if I 'm wrong but did I say I'd sleep with all CDs? Or even all transsexuals for that matter? Find where I said that. As far as males, no I do not find males attractive. Meaning you. Although you appear to act more feminine than masculine anyhow.

I´ll forget the last you said, I don´t know where you get this from. You know, you have to make a thick (not dick) line between the CD-appearance and the CD identity. Transsexual people appear as CD´s in the early stage of the own identity discovery but they don´t dress vecause they just want to dress as women. They want to live as women because they feel that way.

You my friend are totally gay and what makes me appear more feminine? Is it my respect to TS-women as individuals? I´m not just jerking-off here. If showing understanding means being feminine, I don´t care but you don´t seem that you can deal with being gay. Don´t forget, I´m not the one who wants kiss someone with beard so watch out what terms you use for people you don´t know.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Coroner that was very well said. Being a transexual doesn't just deal with the outside but also the inside. Our brain tells us we are women. Even the ones that look like "Homer Simpson In A Wig" if they feel as a woman, They are a transexual first and foremost. They were never "crossdressers or transvestites" due to the fact being a crossdresser or transvestite has to deal more with pleasure and for a fun time. We transexuals live this as a lifestyle not on a weekend or to go to a club. And our brains certainly tell us we are female.


That is why it is offensive to be compared or even be called a crossdresser or transvestite.

[trisexual]

I never thought this would be an issue here. Why am I here? I want to get in touch with a world I don´t have access to in real life. I don´t know anybody I could talk to about this even my sister but I never tried to. I´m here because my attraction to Transsexual women, not guys in women´s dresses. And I thought this is supposed to be a board for those who love Transsexual women and that CD/TV category is more a gay topic because they´re nothing than guys who dress as women and live in double roles. That´s respectless to the transwomen that feel like women and live like women.

Trisexual is not into guys but into guys with wigs and their mother´s clothes. Wtf is this supposed to mean? I mean, where´s the difference? If somebody of the guys here dresses as a woman for fun or a costume party, you´d jerk off and say that you´re not into guys...... huh??It's funny Coroner says that...last time I checked MtoF meant they were born male. And the last time I checked, how did a lot (not all) of TS get started? What, as CDs and TVs...oh wow. Guess you didn't know that.

And correct me if I 'm wrong but did I say I'd sleep with all CDs? Or even all transsexuals for that matter? Find where I said that. As far as males, no I do not find males attractive. Meaning you. Although you appear to act more feminine than masculine anyhow.

I´ll forget the last you said, I don´t where you get this from. You know, you have to make a thick (not dick) line between the CD-appearance and the CD identity. Transsexual people appear as CD´s in the early stage of the own identity discovery but they don´t dress vecause they just want to dress as women. They want to live as women because they feel that way.

You my friend are totally gay and what makes me appear more feminine? Is it my respect to TS-women as individuals? I´m not just jerking-off here. If showing understanding means being feminine, I don´t care but you don´t seem that you can deal with being gay. Don´t forget, I´m not the one who wants kiss someone with beard so watch out what terms you use for people you don´t know.

Who said anything about kissing someone with a beard? If you feel defined by borders than call me what you will. I like sex with people of all genders. You are the confused one, "respecting" penises and refusing to call yourself what you are, a transexual chaser. It's funny how if you look at the poll, I'm not the only one who likes PASSABLE TVs/CDs (is that enough clarity for you?). Just because I don't say what you wantto hear doesn't make me any less respectful of transsexuals. Did I call a TS a TV, no, becuase like you, I know and understand the difference. As far as being gay, what constitutes as being gay? You've slept with a female with a penis, you've sucked a penis...so tell me again, what makes you any different than I? SO you're gay if you get sucked off by a CD, but you're straight if it's by a TS? Or are you partially gay and not as you said "Totally gay"? Keep telling yourself that. Maybe you're the one who's CONFUSED.

Speaking of being disrepectful, you calling me "totally gay" is an insult to homosexuals. So it's ok to praise transsexuals but bash homosexuals? Tsk tsk.

Kelly Shore I neglected to think about that, so I thank you for your input. I was too hasty in responding.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I never thought this would be an issue here. Why am I here? I want to get in touch with a world I don´t have access to in real life. I don´t know anybody I could talk to about this even my sister but I never tried to. I´m here because my attraction to Transsexual women, not guys in women´s dresses. And I thought this is supposed to be a board for those who love Transsexual women and that CD/TV category is more a gay topic because they´re nothing than guys who dress as women and live in double roles. That´s respectless to the transwomen that feel like women and live like women.

Trisexual is not into guys but into guys with wigs and their mother´s clothes. Wtf is this supposed to mean? I mean, where´s the difference? If somebody of the guys here dresses as a woman for fun or a costume party, you´d jerk off and say that you´re not into guys...... huh??It's funny Coroner says that...last time I checked MtoF meant they were born male. And the last time I checked, how did a lot (not all) of TS get started? What, as CDs and TVs...oh wow. Guess you didn't know that.

And correct me if I 'm wrong but did I say I'd sleep with all CDs? Or even all transsexuals for that matter? Find where I said that. As far as males, no I do not find males attractive. Meaning you. Although you appear to act more feminine than masculine anyhow.

I´ll forget the last you said, I don´t where you get this from. You know, you have to make a thick (not dick) line between the CD-appearance and the CD identity. Transsexual people appear as CD´s in the early stage of the own identity discovery but they don´t dress vecause they just want to dress as women. They want to live as women because they feel that way.

You my friend are totally gay and what makes me appear more feminine? Is it my respect to TS-women as individuals? I´m not just jerking-off here. If showing understanding means being feminine, I don´t care but you don´t seem that you can deal with being gay. Don´t forget, I´m not the one who wants kiss someone with beard so watch out what terms you use for people you don´t know.

Who said anything about kissing someone with a beard? If you feel defined by borders than call me what you will. I like sex with people of all genders. You are the confused one, "respecting" penises and refusing to call yourself what you are, a transexual chaser. It's funny how if you look at the poll, I'm not the only one who likes PASSABLE TVs/CDs (is that enough clarity for you?). Just because I don't say what you wantto hear doesn't make me any less respectful of transsexuals. Did I call a TS a TV, no, becuase like you, I know and understand the difference. As far as being gay, what constitutes as being gay? You've slept with a female with a penis, you've sucked a penis...so tell me again, what makes you any different than I? SO you're gay if you get sucked off by a CD, but you're straight if it's by a TS? Or are you partially gay and not as you said "Totally gay"? Keep telling yourself that. Maybe you're the one who's CONFUSED.

Speaking of being disrepectful, you calling me "totally gay" is an insult to homosexuals. So it's ok to praise transsexuals but bash homosexuals? Tsk tsk.

Kelly Shore I neglected to think about that, so I thank you for your input. I was too hasty in responding. It's all good in the neighborhood lmao just putting my :2cent

[Coroner]

I never thought this would be an issue here. Why am I here? I want to get in touch with a world I don´t have access to in real life. I don´t know anybody I could talk to about this even my sister but I never tried to. I´m here because my attraction to Transsexual women, not guys in women´s dresses. And I thought this is supposed to be a board for those who love Transsexual women and that CD/TV category is more a gay topic because they´re nothing than guys who dress as women and live in double roles. That´s respectless to the transwomen that feel like women and live like women.

Trisexual is not into guys but into guys with wigs and their mother´s clothes. Wtf is this supposed to mean? I mean, where´s the difference? If somebody of the guys here dresses as a woman for fun or a costume party, you´d jerk off and say that you´re not into guys...... huh??It's funny Coroner says that...last time I checked MtoF meant they were born male. And the last time I checked, how did a lot (not all) of TS get started? What, as CDs and TVs...oh wow. Guess you didn't know that.

And correct me if I 'm wrong but did I say I'd sleep with all CDs? Or even all transsexuals for that matter? Find where I said that. As far as males, no I do not find males attractive. Meaning you. Although you appear to act more feminine than masculine anyhow.

I´ll forget the last you said, I don´t where you get this from. You know, you have to make a thick (not dick) line between the CD-appearance and the CD identity. Transsexual people appear as CD´s in the early stage of the own identity discovery but they don´t dress vecause they just want to dress as women. They want to live as women because they feel that way.

You my friend are totally gay and what makes me appear more feminine? Is it my respect to TS-women as individuals? I´m not just jerking-off here. If showing understanding means being feminine, I don´t care but you don´t seem that you can deal with being gay. Don´t forget, I´m not the one who wants kiss someone with beard so watch out what terms you use for people you don´t know.

Who said anything about kissing someone with a beard? If you feel defined by borders than call me what you will. I like sex with people of all genders. You are the confused one, "respecting" penises and refusing to call yourself what you are, a transexual chaser. It's funny how if you look at the poll, I'm not the only one who likes PASSABLE TVs/CDs (is that enough clarity for you?). Just because I don't say what you wantto hear doesn't make me any less respectful of transsexuals. Did I call a TS a TV, no, becuase like you, I know and understand the difference. As far as being gay, what constitutes as being gay? You've slept with a female with a penis, you've sucked a penis...so tell me again, what makes you any different than I? SO you're gay if you get sucked off by a CD, but you're straight if it's by a TS? Or are you partially gay and not as you said "Totally gay"? Keep telling yourself that. Maybe you're the one who's CONFUSED.

Speaking of being disrepectful, you calling me "totally gay" is an insult to homosexuals. So it's ok to praise transsexuals but bash homosexuals? Tsk tsk.

Kelly Shore I neglected to think about that, so I thank you for your input. I was too hasty in responding.

It´s not ok to bash homosexuals and I´m not doing this. Maybe I didn´t express myself the way I wanted to because English is my third language. I also don´t like and don´t recognize that sexual categories, because nobody´s 100 % straight or gay. Sexuality is too complex to be divided into exact categories. I didn´t say ur the only one into TV´s/CD´s, I took an example on you because you started the thread. I respect your open-minded view on sexuality but don´t understand the point that ur into CD´s who are in fact men with wigs, nothing more but not into men? A TS woman is not someone with a wig who is a man during the day and a "woman" at night. If someone for example dresses as a bear at a costume-party that doesn´t make him a bear nor does he feel like a bear.

I never fucked a transsexual woman but I would. I don´t think I´d suck her cock but I´m attracted to her with a cock because there would be no point for being here or jerking-off on T-girls pics. But I´m attracted to the whole T-girl, not just the cock. I don´t want a man and I´m not confused. What we are can´t be really defined. Being gay is reserved because a gay male is a man who´s into men and cock is not all that makes you a man.

All I wanted from you is to explain the difference between being into a man with a wig and a women dress but not into the "usual" man?

[peggygee]

I see that it's time for our bi-monthly discussion
of appropriate terms to use in reference to transwomen.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/respect.jpg


Terms that will keep me off the soapbox :soapbox :

You will not go wrong with these: women, ladies,
female, transwomen, transsexual, transgender, t-girl,
transperson.

Gender variant and gender dysphoric person are okay but sound
very clinical. TS and TG also are acceptable as abbreviations.

And just between you, me and the 10,000 other people reading
this, using any of the above terms will endear you to a trans -
woman quicker and more effectively than calling her a "she-male',
'he-she', 'shim', 'lady boy', tranny and the like, which are all
perjorative or deragatory terms created by the porn industry
for marketing purposes.

Whenever this debate reoccurs, it always strikes me as odd, that right there at the top of every page on this site is the phrase "10 Free Minutes of Shemale Video on Demand for HungAngels Members - Click Here".

If the term "shemale" is offensive (and I'm not saying it isn't), shouldn't the title this link be rephrased?

As you have stated, when it re-occurs, we will have this discussion
yet again.

And without going on a long diatribe about it, I will put forth a few things
to ponder.

'IF', you and the majority of transsexuals say they are WOMEN, what
is the logic of having MALE anywhere in a term that is descriptive of
them. The same is true of the term LADYBOY, 'IF' they are WOMEN, then
they are WOMEN, period!

Why would a WOMEN who has sacrificed, fought, bled, struggled with
every fiber of her being want to hang on to vestiges of her past.

And 'If' she is not a WOMEN, then those of you that are lying with her
bedding down with her, in relationships with her, are lying with MEN,
and playing a very clever game of semantics and wordplay, in pursuit
of your sexual gratification.

Either, they are WOMEN, or TRANSWOMEN, if we are to be legally, and
biologically correct.

And Francis to answer your original question as has been stated, 'shemale'
is a marketing term created by the porn industry, some transwomen
are fine with it, others are not, much like the 'N' word amongst the
peple of my race.

I would say that the vast majority are not.

[Kriss]

'IF', you and the majority of transsexuals say they are WOMEN, what is the logic of having MALE anywhere in a term that is descriptive of them. The same is true of the term LADYBOY, 'IF' they are WOMEN, then they are WOMEN, period.
Why would a WOMEN who has sacrificed, fought, bled, struggled with every fiber of her being want to hang on to vestiges of her past. Either, they are WOMEN, or TRANSWOMEN, if we are to be legally, and biologically correct.

WORD! :rock2 :claps :rock2 :claps :rock2 :claps :rock2 :claps


'IF' they are WOMEN, then they are WOMEN, period.

But Peggy Gee, You really should know better than to drop the "P BOMB" on a shemale, sorry i mean transgender forum. :wink:

[blackmagic]

As you have stated, when it re-occurs, we will have this discussion
yet again.

And without going on a long diatribe about it, I will put forth a few things
to ponder.

'IF', you and the majority of transsexuals say they are WOMEN, what
is the logic of having MALE anywhere in a term that is descriptive of
them. The same is true of the term LADYBOY, 'IF' they are WOMEN, then
they are WOMEN, period!

Why would a WOMEN who has sacrificed, fought, bled, struggled with
every fiber of her being want to hang on to vestiges of her past.

And 'If' she is not a WOMEN, then those of you that are lying with her
bedding down with her, in relationships with her, are lying with MEN,
and playing a very clever game of semantics and wordplay, in pursuit
of your sexual gratification.

Either, they are WOMEN, or TRANSWOMEN, if we are to be legally, and
biologically correct.

And Francis to answer your original question as has been stated, 'shemale'
is a marketing term created by the porn industry, some transwomen
are fine with it, others are not, much like the 'N' word amongst the
peple of my race.

I would say that the vast majority are not.


:smoking id really rip into that but i realize that you are a TS er since you had SRS i dont consider you a TS anymore but just a women :smoking

[peggygee]

As you have stated, when it re-occurs, we will have this discussion
yet again.

And without going on a long diatribe about it, I will put forth a few things
to ponder.

'IF', you and the majority of transsexuals say they are WOMEN, what
is the logic of having MALE anywhere in a term that is descriptive of
them. The same is true of the term LADYBOY, 'IF' they are WOMEN, then
they are WOMEN, period!

Why would a WOMEN who has sacrificed, fought, bled, struggled with
every fiber of her being want to hang on to vestiges of her past.

And 'If' she is not a WOMEN, then those of you that are lying with her
bedding down with her, in relationships with her, are lying with MEN,
and playing a very clever game of semantics and wordplay, in pursuit
of your sexual gratification.

Either, they are WOMEN, or TRANSWOMEN, if we are to be legally, and
biologically correct.

And Francis to answer your original question as has been stated, 'shemale'
is a marketing term created by the porn industry, some transwomen
are fine with it, others are not, much like the 'N' word amongst the
peple of my race.

I would say that the vast majority are not.


:smoking id really rip into that but i realize that you are a TS er since you had SRS i dont consider you a TS anymore but just a women :smoking

I am a woman.

I am a Black woman.

I am a post operative transwoman.

But I am not now, never have been, nor ever will be a shemale.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

:popcorn

[blackmagic]

I am a woman.

I am a Black woman.

I am a post operative transwoman.

But I am not now, never have been, nor ever will be a shemale.

......Perfect!

[peggygee]

:popcorn

JWBL, I think we are going to need
the large buckets for this one.....
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/popcorn.jpg

[peggygee]

I am a woman.

I am a Black woman.

I am a post operative transwoman.

But I am not now, never have been, nor ever will be a shemale.

......Perfect!

I like that one.

But while we are at it, can you re-think your signature as well.

'The greatest trick the tranny ever pulled was convincing the world she was female'. :smh

[blackmagic]

I am a woman.

I am a Black woman.

I am a post operative transwoman.

But I am not now, never have been, nor ever will be a shemale.

......Perfect!

I like that one.

But while we are at it, can you re-think your signature as well.

'The greatest trick the tranny ever pulled was convincing the world she was female'. :smh

peggygee i must admit, you have the upmost worst case of GD i have ever seen :wink:

:lol: 'The greatest trick the tranny ever pulled was convincing the world she was female :lol: LOL one of my favorite quotes, just didnt sound to good saying "the greatest trick the transsexual every pulled was convincing the world she was female" :wink:

[peggygee]

I am a woman.

I am a Black woman.

I am a post operative transwoman.

But I am not now, never have been, nor ever will be a shemale.

......Perfect!

I like that one.

But while we are at it, can you re-think your signature as well.

'The greatest trick the tranny ever pulled was convincing the world she was female'. :smh

peggygee i must admit, you have the upmost worst case of GD i have ever seen :wink:

:lol: 'The greatest trick the tranny ever pulled was convincing the world she was female :lol: LOL one of my favorite quotes, just didnt sound to good saying "the greatest trick the transsexual every pulled was convincing the world she was female" :wink:

This actually isn't a case of me protesting the term tranny (this time)
but rather questioning 'why would a woman have to prove she is a
woman'.

My premise is that either a transsexual is a woman or she isn't. This
can't be sometimes she's a she-male/ladyboy, and then sometimes
she is a woman.

If you guys want her to be a woman when she is having sex with you,
but not fully a woman otherwise, well that dog won't hunt. :smh

[lust4ts]

Seriously blackmagic listen to Peggy she knows what she is talking about, trying to argue about the level of offensiveness of a form of terminology with someone who has first hand experience of being referred to as it when you yourself have not is pretty dumb to say the least.

[peggygee]

People may wonder what's in a name.

What difference does it matter what someone is called.

What happens when they are called a name not of their chosing, it
becomes easier to objectify them, persecute them, discriminate
against them.

Their just a bunch of fags they don't deserve rights.

That's just one of those perverted he-she's trying to fool someone
into thinking they are a woman, it's okay to throw them out of a
window.

That's a she-male, an abomination to God they don't deserve the right
to be married.

That's just a ladyboy all their good for is sucking dick and taking it up
the ass, they don't deserve the same things as other WOMEN.

[Coroner]

black magic doesn´t own the copy rights for the signature he has..... the original one is "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn´t exist" :)

[peggygee]

I have seen men and supposed to be transwomen come and go.

This week they are a woman, and next week they aren't.

They realize that this 'thing of ours ain't no joke, it ain't a game.

Being a transwoman ain't just about looking cute, winning balls,
sucking and fucking.

Maybe if you want to be a TV or are just playing at this, then that's
what this means, but if you are going to be a WOMAN or be with
someone who is a transwoman, you need to realize that there is alot
more to it than that.

Some women are new to this, it's still cute, their heads are still on swoll
that the men are at their lives lusting after them, they think they are
'ovah', well Sistergirl I hate to be the one to break it to you, you are
living in a bigger fantasy than any of the fantasy / curious tranny
chasers ever have.

It is one thing to be a tranny, a she male, it is a totally different thing
to be a woman, and no girlfriend it isn't winning the 'realness trophy'
at the ball.

[blackmagic]

This actually isn't a case of me protesting the term tranny (this time)
but rather questioning 'why would a woman have to prove she is a
woman'.

My premise is that either a transsexual is a woman or she isn't. This
can't be sometimes she's a she-male/ladyboy, and then sometimes
she is a woman.

If you guys want her to be a woman when she is having sex with you,
but not fully a woman otherwise, well that dog won't hunt. :smh

Sorry my sarcastic post didn’t exactly send the message. :?

I pretty much just said you have a skewed perspective of how to categorize a man and women based upon your Gender dysphoria. in other words you see only black and white, (your either a man or women based upon your outer appearance is what your telling me) I on the other hand along with about 2 billion other people in this world have a simplistic view that if you have a dick you are male and if you have a pussy you are female, (except in the case they are intersexed) but in this case since some of these tgirls on here still have there little nuts and dicks I consider them tgirls (hence the name TRANS being of both sides) but not full fledged women, why? Because I don’t have GD for starters, and I can abide by the views of science without ignoring them. (and dont bring up the female brain stuff, thats a pretty good inconclusive study and everyone knows that)

O by the way id like to introduce my TS friend Chris, he’s been living F/T for over 7 years now :wink:

[muhmuh]

That's just a ladyboy all their good for is sucking dick and taking it up the ass, they don't deserve the same things as other WOMEN.

not the best example... although anybody who actually believes something like this might just make that mistake

[the Adrienne Barbeaubot]

I'm into Transgendered/Transsexual women.Personally, I find them to be much more physically attractive and more beautiful than Genetic Females.Although I do truly love being with GGs also. I am not into men but I have been with 2 TVs in my life. They were very passable though. Folks, the bottom line is, you like what you like. Who cares what other people or this corrupt fascist society think.Just be yourselves and enjoy all the sweet pleasures life has to offer.As long as you're a good-hearted Human being, it doesn't matter what you call yourself or add labels to others. God loves us all the same. G.

[Kriss]

But while we are at it, can you re-think your signature as well.


'The greatest trick the tranny ever pulled was convincing the world she was female'. :smh

Yeah , always thought that signiture is just dumb. I'm off on a popcorn run, few barrells needed i think..........

I thought Blackmagic was mad, then confused, then a fool, then definately mad. Now I decide it is just a waste of time, a vampire for our attention, Argumentative for the sake of it, for the sport, at times trying to appear ignorant it seems. Now he has lost all sympathy from me.

"The greatest trick 'blackmagic' ever pulled was convincing Hung Angels he does exist"

[blackmagic]

black magic doesn´t own the copy rights for the signature he has..... the original one is "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn´t exist" :)

LOL congrats................ let me give you a sticker for being so special to recognize that.

[peggygee]

This actually isn't a case of me protesting the term tranny (this time)
but rather questioning 'why would a woman have to prove she is a
woman'.

My premise is that either a transsexual is a woman or she isn't. This
can't be sometimes she's a she-male/ladyboy, and then sometimes
she is a woman.

If you guys want her to be a woman when she is having sex with you,
but not fully a woman otherwise, well that dog won't hunt. :smh

Sorry my sarcastic post didn’t exactly send the message. :?

I pretty much just said you have a skewed perspective of how to categorize a man and women based upon your Gender dysphoria. in other words you see only black and white, (your either a man or women based upon your outer appearance is what your telling me) I on the other hand along with about 2 billion other people in this world have a simplistic view that if you have a dick you are male and if you have a pussy you are female, (except in the case they are intersexed) but in this case since some of these tgirls on here still have there little nuts and dicks I consider them tgirls (hence the name TRANS being of both sides) but not full fledged women, why? Because I don’t have GD for starters, and I can abide by the views of science without ignoring them. (and dont bring up the female brain stuff, thats a pretty good inconclusive study and everyone knows that)

O by the way id like to introduce my TS friend Chris, he’s been living F/T for over 7 years now :wink:

No actually it wasn't lost on me.

I relize that most people in the world have a binary definition of gender.
you are a male or a female, you have an 'innie or an outie'.

My problem is the use of derogatory terms being used to describe those
that don't fit into so-called societal norms.

[blackmagic]

This actually isn't a case of me protesting the term tranny (this time)
but rather questioning 'why would a woman have to prove she is a
woman'.

My premise is that either a transsexual is a woman or she isn't. This
can't be sometimes she's a she-male/ladyboy, and then sometimes
she is a woman.

If you guys want her to be a woman when she is having sex with you,
but not fully a woman otherwise, well that dog won't hunt. :smh

Sorry my sarcastic post didn’t exactly send the message. :?

I pretty much just said you have a skewed perspective of how to categorize a man and women based upon your Gender dysphoria. in other words you see only black and white, (your either a man or women based upon your outer appearance is what your telling me) I on the other hand along with about 2 billion other people in this world have a simplistic view that if you have a dick you are male and if you have a pussy you are female, (except in the case they are intersexed) but in this case since some of these tgirls on here still have there little nuts and dicks I consider them tgirls (hence the name TRANS being of both sides) but not full fledged women, why? Because I don’t have GD for starters, and I can abide by the views of science without ignoring them. (and dont bring up the female brain stuff, thats a pretty good inconclusive study and everyone knows that)

O by the way id like to introduce my TS friend Chris, he’s been living F/T for over 7 years now :wink:

No actually it wasn't lost on me.

I relize that most people in the world have a binary definition of gender.
you are a male or a female, you have an 'innie or an outie'.

My problem is the use of derogatory terms being used to describe those
that don't fit into so-called societal norms.

ok problem noted.

I have no plans on changing my status quote, it was that or "lifes a bitch so fuck it"

[peggygee]

As I stated earlier, the term shemale is a marketing term created by
the porn industry. As we are on a predominantly porn based web-site,
that term will often by used.

My concern is that sometimes the only exposure than any of the men,
or perhaps even some of the women, will have to being informed about
transsexuality is through this forum.

Ideally while spending time on this forum they will come to understand
transwomen better, themselves better.

Thus I feel that we need a balance of viewpoints, a sharing of information
and knowledge.

[Coroner]

black magic doesn´t own the copy rights for the signature he has..... the original one is "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn´t exist" :)

LOL congrats................ let me give you a sticker for being so special to recognize that.

I don´t deserve this, had to mention your original signature......

[peggygee]

If you are going to be with these women for more than a pay for play
situation, or watching a video of them, if you want to understand what
about them attracts you to them you will need to open yourself up
to learn more about them.

And ladies, we need to learn more about ourselves as well. I know that
since I have been here I have examined, learned and re-thought many
things. It has been a growth experience for me as well.

[blackmagic]

black magic doesn´t own the copy rights for the signature he has..... the original one is "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn´t exist" :)

LOL congrats................ let me give you a sticker for being so special to recognize that.

I don´t deserve this, had to mention your original signature......

yes you do take that sticker home and show it to mommy and daddy. your a very special child. :D

[a994]

For me it would be t-ladies (transsexuals) only. That and GGs.

[Coroner]

black magic doesn´t own the copy rights for the signature he has..... the original one is "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn´t exist" :)

LOL congrats................ let me give you a sticker for being so special to recognize that.

I don´t deserve this, had to mention your original signature......

yes you do take that sticker home and show it to mommy and daddy. your a very special child. :D

ok, they´d be proud because you´re so cool

[wendy48088]

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[wendy48088]

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[blackmagic]

Well, he doesn't have a lot of good things to say about transsexual women, and he hangs out here and he keeps posting here, so I think we can assume a few things about him.

Looking at his posts and his profiles, he apparently is a 19 year old sexually frustrated guy who is confused and ashamed by his attraction to T-Girls, and as a result hangs out here and baits us.

Well for starters let me say this, ive never been and or had any attractions towards tgirls period........... Ill let you assume what you want with that said. But as for hanging out in here theres a few reasons why I hang here but hey ill let you figure those out. :wink: LOL remind me to change my age on that yahoo profile :P


Rather than acceptance or an attempt at understanding, he has chosen to demonize the object of his desires, and attack what he is attracted to.

And to repeat what I posted on another message thread where blackmagic wrote: "...one thing allot of men fail to realize about tgirls is that ... they used to be men... "


lol don’t stereotype based on my display picture. Im a really sweet person in real life im not demonic lol. As for acceptance, ive been around TS since I was 16 (pretty rare if you live in a redneck town like mine where I would have most likely been beaten up if it weren’t for my strength and appeal of being 6ft plus), but to this day I still hang out withem, lots of them. I even wanted to go to SMU School of law and become a paralegal for the purposes of defending the rights of gays, lesbian’s bisexuals and people who are Trangendered, from the hatred of today’s society, but my dreams come before that. So it might be a while. :D

[David J.]

I've got to admit, I'm surprised that almost a quarter of responses are into TV and CD, I would have thought that number would have been much lower. Oh well, shows what I know.

[mikey_stl]

I'm only into transexuals -- no guys, no cds, no tvs. I like women -- gg or tg (although a pre-op or non-op tg provides and extra turn-on to me).

[ottorocket]

t-ladies for me...but that doesn't mean they need to have Pam Anderson attributes. I like natural beauties :)

[Aragon21]

Well I hadn't intended to reply to this thread at all, as I feel like I don't have to get up and justify myself every time this question arises. But I have followed it in reading, and until researching what another had posted on my own "Transexual gaming" thread would have empatically said transexuals only.

Dont forget the hottest CD in video gaming history

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridget_(Guilty_Gear)
That being said, I would now include cartoon CDs. But since I will never met one in real life, to quote:
http://static.flickr.com/64/167143829_8ab59e7685.jpg

[gummi baer]

but isn't Bridget actually a boy? (I like DGs)

[Aragon21]

but isn't Bridget actually a boy? (I like DGs)

That was my point! A cartoon CD. Of course I like most things anime regardless if it is sexual or not, and cartoons in general (Adult Swim ROCKS!) Just look at my avatar afterall. :lol:

But in real life, TV/CD don't do it in anyway for me.

[Felicia Katt]

Well for starters let me say this, ive never been and or had any attractions towards tgirls period........... Ill let you assume what you want with that said. But as for hanging out in here theres a few reasons why I hang here but hey ill let you figure those out. :wink: LOL remind me to change my age on that yahoo profile :P

Blackmagic, do you remember some of your first posts on this board? Because I do.


Hey everyone, my names john im new so yeah let me get to my question

The girl im secretly dating is cool and cute but we both have issues and well to add some insight into the problem we both used to be linebackers on the high school football team, well I don’t really digg women with muscle and she hates it just as much as I do, but where still cool with each other............ Is there any possible way for her/him to lose the muscle mass?

ive seen her get aroused just standing in the shower letting the water hit her tits, kinda freaks me out alittle, after all shes my first tgirlfriend and well its my first real girlfriend lol.

Today was my very first time to give my GF a blow job, it was gross and I almost threw up when she came in my mouth, but ended up running into the bathroom. I don’t think oral is my stuff
I'm not sure how you can have a tg girlfriend, who is your first girlfriend, and one of your first sexual experiences and claim to never have been attracted to a tgirl?

I know its supposed to kill me, but I'm curious all the same. :)

FK

[ToyBoy6669]

I'll choose all of the above! What can I say I'm a lover of all things beautiful!

[ToyBoy6669]

ALSO technically bridget is underaged, but thats been highly debated

[TJ347]

I'm all about the tgirls, thanks. That said, I've noticed in my travels that the type of tgirl guys like varies far more than I realized. Looking at some pics posted in the forums, this is quite evident. Many, and dare I say, most guys seem to be interested in tgirls who are "passable". On the other hand, others seem to like tgirls with a decidedly more masculine look... bigger shoulders and arms, squared jaw, six foot tall plus, etcetera. Now, I'm not knocking whatever it is anybody else likes, but for me, a tgirl needs to look like a girl, otherwise, as far as I'm concerned, I'm dealing with a CD or TV. I don't know about you, but I don't think if I shave my goatee off, apply some lip gloss, put on a wig and some lingerie, I am anything other than a CD. However, some tgirls, from what I've seen, do no more than that, which doesn't get if for me. That's why I'm not a fan of Suzanna Holmes and Mariana Cordoba... I can glance at either one of them, and in a half a second, I know what's up. They have a number of fans of course, so they could care less if I'm a fan, I know. But IMHO, dudes who are into them are more or less fighting admitting to themselves that they're gay. That's all I've got...

[peggygee]

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/respect.jpg

...And 'If' she is not a WOMEN, then those of you that are lying with her
bedding down with her, in relationships with her, are lying with MEN,
and playing a very clever game of semantics and wordplay, in pursuit
of your sexual gratification.

Either, they are WOMEN, or TRANSWOMEN, if we are to be legally, and
biologically correct.

And Francis to answer your original question as has been stated, 'shemale'
is a marketing term created by the porn industry, some transwomen
are fine with it, others are not, much like the 'N' word amongst the
people of my race.

I would say that the vast majority are not.

I see terms like "Ass-Pussy" and "She-Cock" (also sometimes called "Stick Pussy") used to describle the various parts of the Transgendered Women in "She-Male" porn videos or for escort services.

To me that's really twisting the language to get away from saying that - Yes, that is indeed a penis in your mouth or up your ass...

I realize it was probably necessary to invent such tortured concepts to make the vast majority of otherwise "straight" men feel comfortable with their taste in porn, or escort companionship. But it really is irritating to have to deal with people who take these concepts seriously sometimes...

Your Honor, ladies and
gentlemen of the jury.

The prosecution rests.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/jury24x2.jpg

[ezed]

Send them all up to my office, I'll give them an interview and then cast my vote.

[qeuqheeg222]

thick and juicy tgs...all the way...ive tried to dabble with the tv scene and could get down with it enough to really enjoy it...not soft enuff.maybe their ass was smaller than mine(an thats small and skinny),hairy ass cracks,i dont know..really fellas go out an try yer fantasy and see how you fare..

[MacShreach]

I realize it was probably necessary to invent such tortured concepts to make the vast majority of otherwise "straight" men feel comfortable with their taste in porn, or escort companionship. But it really is irritating to have to deal with people who take these concepts seriously sometimes...

:rock2

[TJT]

I was w/ TV's/CD's for vanilla sex way back when,but these days I only fool around w/ them as subs,and that's rare. Once their dick gets visible and hard a lot of the appeal is gone for me. (unless they're so feminine their appearance offsets it. ) The type of bondage/S&M I do with them generally involves humiliation and them giving me head. (I let them jack-off if they've been a good little girl.)

W/ a TS/TG it's more a regular straight-up boyfriend/girlfriend type of relationship. If they're pre-op,I prefer "non-functional" to use the terms of the sex trade. (If I was looking for a throbbing hard dick,I'd go find a man.) However as I once told a TG girlfriend who could get hard,"We'll find a way to work around that thing." If I like 'em the occasional boner isn't a problem.

[francisfkudrow]

To me that's really twisting the language to get away from saying that - Yes, that is indeed a penis in your mouth or up your ass...


No offense, but for some reason I found this really funny. I guess I imagine some guy blowing a TS, and she says to him, "You know, that's a penis in your mouth", and he's like "NOOOOO!" and runs screaming into the night.

LOL

[MacShreach]

No offense, but for some reason I found this really funny. I guess I imagine some guy blowing a TS, and she says to him, "You know, that's a penis in your mouth", and he's like "NOOOOO!" and runs screaming into the night.

LOL

Unfortunately the reaction is sometimes more violent than that.....

[TJ347]

No offense, but for some reason I found this really funny. I guess I imagine some guy blowing a TS, and she says to him, "You know, that's a penis in your mouth", and he's like "NOOOOO!" and runs screaming into the night.

LOL

Unfortunately the reaction is sometimes more violent than that.....

Why would there be a violent reaction at all, when the guy would already have been in the midst of blowing said TS?

[MacShreach]

From The Advocate, May 25, 1999 by Lisa Meyer



"VIOLENCE AGAINST THE TRANSGENDERED IS WIDESPREAD, BRUTAL--AND OFTEN UNNOTICED

In November, about a month after 21-year-old Matthew Shepherd was pistol-whipped and lashed to a fence on a rural Wyoming road in subfreezing temperatures, Rita Hester, a 34-year-old transgendered woman in Allston, Mass., was stabbed some 20 times in the chest. Just before New Year's Eve, Vianna Faye Williams, a 36-year-old preoperative transsexual in Jersey City, N.J., was stabbed nine times in her back, neck, and chest. In January, Donald Fuller, an 18-year-old cross-dresser who went by the name Lauryn Paige, was found stabbed with his throat cut in a patch of woods in Austin. In February, Houston police reported that an unknown man wearing women's clothing was shot several times in a motel parking lot. In March, Tracey Thompson, a 33-year-old transgendered woman, was beaten on a Georgia country road.

All died."

An older article it is true, but things have not improved.

http://www.gwenaraujo.blogspot.com/

Miss Araujo was brutally murdered after she had sex with her killer. Although her killer claimed that he was unaware of her status at the time of the act, this is frankly hard to believe and IMHO was part of a "gender panic" defence.

There is other evidence that transgender women have been attacked after sex in circumstances where the man must have known: the implication is that the men involved suffered a violent guilt reaction to what they had just done and took it out on the girl. In other cases the issue appears to be peer pressure-- when the man finds out his friends know the girl is trans, he kills her to save face. This is what I personally believe happened to Miss Araujo.


Straight men are dangerous for transwomen, and it ain't funny.

[peggygee]

Straight men are dangerous for transwomen, and it ain't funny.

California Senate passes bill addressing 'panic defense'
in criminal trials National Briefs

By Staff Reporters of the Dallas Voice.
Aug 31, 2006, 18:53

The California Senate passed the “Gwen Araujo Justice for Victims Act” on
Wednesday, August 30, 2006, sending the measure to Gov. Arnold
Schwarzenegger for his consideration.

The bill, authored by Assemblymember Sally Lieber, a Democrat and
sponsored by Equality California, directs the Office of Emergency
Services to create training materials for district attorneys on the use of
bias-motivated defense strategies in criminal trials.

The measure also requires the Judicial Council to adopt a jury instruction
telling jurors not to consider bias against people because of sexual
orientation, gender identity or other factors in rendering a verdict.

The bill was named in honor of Gwen Araujo, a transgender teen
murdered in Newark, Calif., in 2002. Araujo was beaten to death by four
men she met at a party who had discovered she was transgender.

In support of this, the Judiciary Committee cited FBI figures that there
have been more than 113,000 hate crimes since 1991, including 7,163 in
1995. It said that racially motivated bias accounted for 55 percent of
those incidents, religious bias for 17 percent, sexual orientation bias for
14 percent and ethnicity bias for 14 percent.

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=19324&start=80

I will be supplementing these figures as I obtain them.