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White_Male_Canada
03-17-2007, 03:16 AM
Valerie Plame Wilson flatly denied playing a role in the choice of her husband for a CIA mission to Niger. "I did not recommend him. I did not suggest him,"

Senator Christopher Bond, vice chairman of the Intelligence Committee,

" We have also checked the memorandum written by Ms. Wilson suggesting her husband to look into the Niger reporting. I also stand by the Committee’s finding that this memorandum indicates Ms. Wilson did suggest her husband for a Niger inquiry. "
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"Some CPD officials could not recall how the office decided to contact the former ambassador, however, interviews and documents provided to the Committee indicate that his wife, a CPD employee, suggested his name for the trip. The CPD reports officer told Committee staff that the former ambassador's wife "offered up his name" and a memorandum to the Deputy Chief of the CPD on February 12, 2002, from the former ambassador's wife says, "my husband has good relations with both the PM [prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity."
http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/congress/2004_rpt/iraq-wmd-intell_chapter2-b.htm


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Plame also repeatedly described herself as a covert operative, a term that has multiple meanings. Plame said she worked undercover and traveled abroad on secret missions for the CIA.

But the word "covert" also has a legal definition requiring recent foreign service and active efforts to keep someone's identity secret. Critics of Fitzgerald's investigation said Plame did not meet that definition for several reasons and said that's why nobody was charged with the leak.

Also, none of the witnesses who testified at Libby's trial said it was clear that Plame's job was classified. However, Fitzgerald said flatly at the courthouse after the verdict that Plame's job was classified...Plame said she wasn't a lawyer and didn't know what her legal status was...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070316/ap_on_go_co/cia_leak_congress

corbomite
03-17-2007, 06:33 AM
hope she didn`t perjur herself

she`s rape bait in an all women`s prison :twisted:

guyone
03-17-2007, 09:23 AM
She a covert operative alright. A covert operative for the Decoratic Party!

trish
03-17-2007, 06:42 PM
I very much doubt Agent Plame committed perjury. There’s no need, because there wouldn’t been nothing untoward about suggesting her husband, a former ambassador to the region, for the job. This is what puzzles me the most about this affair. Rove must’ve been clutching at straws if he thought that story was going to discredit the critics of Bush’s “intelligence”.

What I find most interesting about this story is Cheney and Rove ask Bush to declassify Plame’s status as a covert agent. Bush does this without informing the CIA. Once this was done, it’s no longer technically treasonous to out her. The story of her recommending her husband for the “junket” to Nigeria (like that’s a great place to visit) is the leaked by Cheney’s aide to the press. But what happens? The public (I think predictably) is not at all horrified by the recommendation and where it allegedly came from, as by the outing of a covert agent…because outing a covert agent is obviously treason. Bush, on national television, promises the American people, that those in the white house responsible for the leak will be dealt with. He had the gull to promise this when he already knew that he himself declassified the document and knew who asked him to do it. In my book, Bush, Cheney and Rove are all but technically traitors.

corbomite
03-17-2007, 08:10 PM
I think its not treason to set the record straight to prove Wilson was wrong when he wrote his editorial saying iraq wasn`t in niger looking for yellowcake.Looks like the senate intel comittee already said she offered her husband up to go to niger. If plame was covered by that secret identities act then wouldn`t someone have been charged long ago and wasn`t richard armitage the first one to say she was wilson`s wife?

This smells like politics plain and simple. nothing will come of this since i think that law was not broken.

trish
03-17-2007, 08:26 PM
Sure, no laws were broken...Bush declassified Agent Plame's covert status. The only thing that can come of it is political fallout...and there's fallout a plenty. Nevertheless, Bush, Cheney and Rove ARE all but technically TRAITORS.

White_Male_Canada
03-18-2007, 03:12 AM
Sure, no laws were broken...Bush declassified Agent Plame's covert status. The only thing that can come of it is political fallout...and there's fallout a plenty. Nevertheless, Bush, Cheney and Rove ARE all but technically TRAITORS.

Plame didn`t know what her status was !? Now that`s giving dumb blondes a bad name.

Yup, merely politcal theater, and a bad play at that. The reviews are gonna stink for Waxman etal. 8)

When all was said and done, the least preposterous sight at Friday's House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing could be found in the audience: namely, the woman dressed in hot pink who kept standing up behind Plame during her testimony to show the television viewers her 'Impeach Bush' T-shirt.

That woman was a lot more honest about what was taking place than Mrs. Joseph Wilson, who looked like the cat who ate the canary when Georgia Republican Rep. Lynn Westmoreland asked her whether she and her husband are Democrats.

After giving her husband's Republican family background, she said: 'I would say he's a Democrat.' As for herself, she conceded: 'Yes . . . I am a Democrat.'

As if we all didn't know.

Plame's 'cover' as a CIA employee was so secret she was listed in her husband's 'Who's Who in America' entry. Her cover was 'blown' in 2003 by then-Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage. Armitage was never charged with a crime, because she was no longer a covert agent. So special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald instead went after Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, Scooter Libby, for his bad memory.

Plame's fellow Democrats, led by committee Chairman Henry Waxman of California, spent much of their time waving at the cameras a new version of the Clinton administration's 'Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy' flowchart. The chart featured a big, black box labeled 'UNKNOWN,' representing the mysterious personage who told Karl Rove and Vice President Dick Cheney about Plame.

Gee, the republic must be in mortal danger if someone is giving CIA secrets to the vice president and a senior presidential adviser.

Plame repeatedly answered questions about her official status at the CIA with an unconvincing 'I'm not a lawyer.'

Then she claimed that the smoking-gun e-mail she sent to her superiors recommending that her husband be sent to Niger — after which he wrote a New York Times op-ed questioning Iraq's pursuit of nuclear material in Africa — was taken 'out of context.'

Far from being a 'covert agent,' Plame and her husband are a politically motivated PR partnership. She's negotiating a book deal for her life story, titled 'Fair Game,' for which Simon & Schuster has reportedly paid her a $1 million advance. She appeared with Wilson on the cover of Vanity Fair just months after being 'outed.'

Just why was Plame, who listed her CIA cover company as her employer when she gave to Al Gore's campaign, riding a desk in Langley, Va.? The Washington Times' Bill Gertz has reported that U.S. officials said her identity was first disclosed to Russia by a Moscow spy in the mid-1990s. She returned to the U.S. in 1994 because the CIA suspected her cover was blown by turncoat Aldrich Ames.

By placing Plame under the hot spotlights, Democrats have unwittingly caused her story to melt before the public.
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=258936799316774

trish
03-18-2007, 04:22 AM
You can rationalize around it all you want, but they were willing to out a covert agent for political gain, and they did.

BUSH, CHENEY & ROVE ARE TRAITORS.

guyone
03-18-2007, 06:58 PM
DEMOCRATS ARE ANTI-AMERICAN!

trish
03-18-2007, 07:18 PM
:)

specialk
03-18-2007, 07:20 PM
:)

:P

eggbert
03-18-2007, 07:48 PM
Someones got to say it so it might as well be me. Valerie Plame is hot! Oh, and with any luck, Rove will end up in jail where he belongs (but of course Bush will break another promise and pardon all his buddies).

specialk
03-18-2007, 07:54 PM
Someones got to say it so it might as well be me. Valerie Plame is hot! Oh, and with any luck, Rove will end up in jail where he belongs (but of course Bush will break another promise and pardon all his buddies).


:hitit repeatedly.....nice call eggbert!!!!

LG
03-18-2007, 09:13 PM
Someones got to say it so it might as well be me. Valerie Plame is hot!

http://www.losblogueros.net/fotos/valerie_plame.jpg
http://rickbauls.googlepages.com/schwing.jpg
That she is. I think we need to post more pics of beautiful women in the politics forum, becuase I'm tired debating. So here are some more, and, since it is a Politics forum, both are former politicians

Yulia Timoshenko, former Ukranian Prime Minister
http://vladbad.blog.kataweb.it/vladbad_news_center/images/timoshenko.jpg

Cicciolina, former Italian MP, former porn star:
http://mundonline.galeon.com/magazine/cicciolina3.jpg

Of course women can get ahead in politics even when they are not attractive:
http://schema-root.org/region/americas/north_america/usa/government/officials/condoleezza_rice/condi.jpg

And don't get me wrong, I'm all for women in politics, if they are good enough. And they can't be much worse than these guys:
http://earthhopenetwork.net/bush%20art/cheney_dick_ventura.jpg
http://www.bartcop.com/poodle-chimp-sm.jpg

guyone
03-19-2007, 12:40 AM
Here's more 'hot chicks'

PRAISE THE STATE!