Stop the generalization of "Tranny Chaser"

[Aragon21]

I took these quotes from "Do you feel it's wrong?"


So I am on a few "straight sites"...and I put my status as female. And I talk to the guys for awhile to let them get to know me, then if I want to meet them I tell them. It usually works out in my favor, but there's always that small percent that get mad. Do you think I am wrong for doing it this way? Should I tell them flat out?

On "straight sites" and many others you only have a choice of man, woman, gay man, lesbian woman, couple. So yes say woman.

No offense Kelly but I think you have a bias in your idea of "tranny chaser." I consider myself heterosexual, and I consider MTF transexuals as women. I have absolutely no desire for men. The fact that I am searching for either a GG or TG, does not change who I am or how I would treat my lady. You have stated numerous times you are not into gay men and that whole thread suggests that you also do not like men who like TGs prior to getting to know you 1st.


i didnt vote.. but im on a ton of "straight" sites and i always say female as i dont see myself as male... nor do any guys... look at me.. i dont look like a male why would i claim to be one... anyway... while i say female i also put in my profile that im a TS... i think its dumb not to... why would you want to waste all that time laying down the groundwork for a relationship only for the guy to be turned off and leave? dumb.. say female so guys that arent gay get you in their searches and put that youre a TS in there to weed out the guys that dont have the desire to be w/ you... makes sence dontcha think?

TSNTX has it right. And from what have read of JOEBOz's responses I think he might agree. There are people out here that want a LTR that are attracted to feminity in all its forms.

Do NOT get me wrong! There are people in it only for the experience. But this is true for all sexualities. If a man wants to experiment with a man, I would call them bi-curious, and vice-versa for woman wanting to experiment with lesbianism.

Also, there are people that are just out there to put as many notches on the bedpost.

This is why we all (straight/TG/gay/bi-) have our conversations before connecting for a date. We all have our own radar to determine if the person we are talking to is looking to just "hit it." On the flip side, if that is all you want I would hope you would decline if you feel the other person wants more. Now we all have our own meter to determine what is acceptable sexual practice for our own person and we all have our own limits of how far we may stretch them (let's be honest few if any of the woman here would reject Brad Pitt if he asked for "the experience" only, and few if any of the men here would say no to Angelina Jolie for a one-nighter.)

So ladies do us heterosexual men that would consider a LTR with either a TG or GG need our own classification? If so, choose something besides "Tranny Chaser." It is offensive in its implication that we only want the experience and not the relationship. As I said I consider myself heterosexual, because I do not consider any TG less of a woman pre- or post-op.

<edit> And allow me to also add, if I or others flirt with several of you gorgeous ladies at the same time, that too is not "chasing." It is the same as if I were to meet you all in the same place at one time...I flirt, I talk, I get to know you, I would consider a few dates. In other words it is called socializing.

[Quinn]

In my experience, the only people who worry about the usage of the term "tranny chaser" usually are tranny chasers.

-Quinn

[Aragon21]

In my experience, the only people who worry about the usage of the term "tranny chaser" usually are tranny chasers.

-Quinn

Think you missed the point. The "generalization" that some women have been using to lump anyone looking for a possible relationship with a TG are "tranny chasers" just because they know ahead of time whether the girl is TG or GG.

[hwbs]

you cant worry bout words on a pc..people are always going to have opinions...besides you can be called worse things. :lol:...the phrase is never going to die...u are just going to have to live with it..

[peggygee]

Not enough butter on the HA popcorn.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/popcorn.jpg

Brought my own. :wink:

[Quinn]

In my experience, the only people who worry about the usage of the term "tranny chaser" usually are tranny chasers.

-Quinn

Think you missed the point. The "generalization" that some women have been using to lump anyone looking for a possible relationship with a TG are "tranny chasers" just because they know ahead of time whether the girl is TG or GG.

With all due respect, I didn't miss your point. My point was this: if the term, and the negative connotaitons that go with it, don't apply to you, don't worry about it. It's just a lable -- one that tends to be used by the type of women your proabably not going to want to deal with anyway.

-Quinn

[AllanahStarrNYC]

well here is the funny thing-

just that our dating pool is much smaller than women- so guys chase women just as much but not women are so connected with each other as ts are.

it's like if a guy goes out with me- and he tells the girls i went out with allanah starr- they are ALL going to know who i am.

a chaser is just a chaser to me-no matter what u like

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Allanah's made a valid point. All men chase women after women after women but chasing after transexuals are rather different cos we are even a smaller community. Chances are we sorta know eachother one way or the other.

I think for the most part most transgender women are simply just "trying" to weed out the guys who are just in it for sex and experience (we know there's alot of them out there). I personally dont think there's anything wrong with it (being cautious is always a good thing). ;) Guys who are into just that - SEX i.e. having fixation at a girls cock, lust for bottoming etc. and not really into YOU as a "transexual woman" is bad enough. Now working different girls at the same time looking out which girl is going to put out first doesnt help any. Ofcourse, As Quinn said if you're not that type then you dont have to worry about anything Aragon21. ;)

There is more to a person (GG/TG) than just what's between their thighs. :P

~Kisses.

HTG

[qeuqheeg222]

what about guys who are tops and are interested in the ltr and have come out to the friends and family?

[Aragon21]

what about guys who are tops and are interested in the ltr and have come out to the friends and family?

Huh? :roll: My question had nothing to do with postioning only differentiating between "wham, bam, thank you ma'ams" and those interested in "LTR."

I want to thank the people who have already responded, and even those who only viewed.

I guess I was a little frustrated by a rather long thread that I had been reading when I decided to post this.

Because I just realized what you call the LTR guys. If we're lucky and make a connection, you call us boyfriends. :P

[peggygee]

Because I just realized what you call the LTR guys. If we're lucky and make a connection, you call us boyfriends. :P

"By Jove Holmes, I think you've got it".

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/holmesrev.jpg

[hungNYCboi]

Well in that case as long as there are Women who walk the face of this earth I guess Im going to always be a chaser, Un less you women start asking us on dates. It's the laws of nature man is a hunter women are the prey, we feast on submit and men would't have to be what you would say a stalker or a chaser! We are only human and a woman is what everyman wants. The problem is that there are just so meny different kinds of women shapes and sizes and Now there are Shemales that could out do plenty of women on a whole different level, So now a man has new prey to hunt and a hung young sexy angel is the most fun to chase.

[TrueBeauty TS]

what about guys who are tops and are interested in the ltr and have come out to the friends and family?


Are you talking about Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy??? LOL :wink:






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[beatmaker]

I commented on this "tranny chaser" nonsense before. Speaking for myself, I have too much going for myself to "chase" anybody, be it a TS or GG. I might approach a TS I'm attracted to and see where it heads, just like I do with GG's. However, I don't do the Keith Sweat "baby, baby please" begging routine. I'm sure the TS's who escort wouldn't like to be labeled "john chasers" or "money chasers". This term reminds me of women who are busty, saying they are "turned off" by men that are attracted to big breasts. The pathology of it all is incredible. Imagine a guy who works out and has a nice physique saying "I don't date women who compliment my physique" or "I prefer women who like skinny or fat men, so I don't feel like a piece of meat". Enough with the mind games already. I'm sure some guys are just treating trannies like the sexual flavor of the month, just like you have these wealthy, spoiled Ivy League white guys who like to sexually experiment with black or latin women in college, as they would never let their elitist circle of friends, actually see them with one, in a meaningful relationship or situation.

Some "straight guys" (I guess I stopped being that 7 years ago, when I was solely into GG's), will have sexual relations or even galavant around town with you if you're passable. However, if he hasn't had children already and done the "family man" thing, the relationship is doomed for failure. I speak from experience, as I haven't had children yet and really want a child. However, I am waiting for a good quality, well rounded woman and would prefer to be married, when I do bring a child into the world. If I was an older, divorced guy with children who are adults, then I could consider a "serious", long term relationship with a TS, as I have gotten that part of my life out of the way. Problem is, when a man is that age, the attractive trannies just want to put you in the "sugar daddy" trick bag anyway.

Just keeping it real!

[SarahG]

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[Urian]

From my point of view the problem with the human male sexuality is that a male body urges for the sex act all the time (a man doesn´´t have hormonal cycles) and since it is well seen in the society men can expand their sexuality.

Women don´t have this problem, their sex drive is more an addition of all the features instead that only the body, obviously with the time a man starts thinking like a woman when he is searching for a partner, I am not saying that he becomes A TS woman, I am saying that he starts watching for things beyond the body.

This is my point of view, perhaps I am wrong, but my sex drive went down after the teen years and my mind matured.

[iloveshemales77]

... I'm sure the TS's who escort wouldn't like to be labeled "john chasers" or "money chasers". This term reminds me of women who are busty, saying they are "turned off" by men that are attracted to big breasts. The pathology of it all is incredible.

...If I was an older, divorced guy with children who are adults, then I could consider a "serious", long term relationship with a TS, as I have gotten that part of my life out of the way. Problem is, when a man is that age, the attractive trannies just want to put you in the "sugar daddy" trick bag anyway.

Just keeping it real!

Second that big time as an older divorced guy with grown children. I'm a reasonably good looking guy (at least I have never been told otherwise) and would love to meet an "older" mature (as in grown up) TS for a ltr. In my experience the younger ones won't give you the time of day unless you're either a tatooed beefcake or flash money around (or both) and can be unbelievably callous, crass and rude! Older TS' (o.m.g. over 39!!!!) Can't seem to find'em. Just dunno where they disappear to.

[SarahG]

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[iloveshemales77]

Sure Sahra, I'm generalising my experiences. I've met some sweet and very charming girls. By the way, what I said also goes for a lot of GG's...

[HornieHubbieinCT]

I think the problem with the appellation "Tranny Chaser" is that it is kind of perjoritive. When I was in High School (in the early '70s), my girlfriend was black. I was called "Chocolate Chaser"and the even worse "Ni**erlover" by my so-called friends of both genders (didn't know any T's in those days). It did finally take a toll on the both of us, she had a whole nother set of issues to deal with, and we broke up in Senior year.

Basically, people are sexually attracted to each other for a thousand different reasons. Some are quite shallow. None of that has any importance. What is significant is not what brings us together, but what makes us want to stay together.

HH

[hwbs]

Basically, people are sexually attracted to each other for a thousand different reasons. Some are quite shallow. None of that has any importance. What is significant is not what brings us together, but what makes us want to stay together.

HH

very well put...
I remember when I was in college I was in love with this girl at my job...I couldn't get a date with her to save my life...she found out I was a great bowler from a friend and started pursuing me...I wonder what category that puts her in lmao... :lol:

[tsntx]

In my experience, the only people who worry about the usage of the term "tranny chaser" usually are tranny chasers.

-Quinn

Think you missed the point. The "generalization" that some women have been using to lump anyone looking for a possible relationship with a TG are "tranny chasers" just because they know ahead of time whether the girl is TG or GG.

With all due respect, I didn't miss your point. My point was this: if the term, and the negative connotaitons that go with it, don't apply to you, don't worry about it. It's just a lable -- one that tends to be used by the type of women your proabably not going to want to deal with anyway.

-Quinn

agreed

[tsntx]

If I was an older, divorced guy with children who are adults, then I could consider a "serious", long term relationship with a TS, as I have gotten that part of my life out of the way. Problem is, when a man is that age, the attractive trannies just want to put you in the "sugar daddy" trick bag anyway.

Just keeping it real!

the reason a guy like that goes into the "sugar daddy" bag is b/c look at all the issues he had to go thru to be seen w/ me? fuck that and him. live your life for yourself not for others in it. he doesnt respect me if all those stipulations must be in order for me to date him. why would an "attractive" *assuming you mean young as well* want to be w/ a guy who couldnt be himself when hes 2x her age *50/25 accounting his kids need to be out of the house already*... if she has her shit together and knows who she is and has the balls to be herself at 25 why on earth would she want a guy she cant respect... bc how could she if thats how he was? thats why he goes in the "sugar daddy trick bag" ... because he deserves it...

just keeping it real :roll:

[MrsKellyPierce]

Aragon you totally took what I said what a tranny chaser is out of context. I have stated many times what I thought a tranny chaser is. A tranny chaser to me is a guy that just wants sex, has no care what you are about as a person. And frankly doesn't care to take you out in public, date you, just wants you as their little secret.... excuse my bluntness FUCK TOY or FANTASY... That is what a tranny chaser to me is. POINT BLANK. And if you have an issue with that..dear that is your problem not mine. MMK cause I will keep on calling these men that think that we live for them...and the ones that think "omg some fat guy called me beautiful I'm gonna spread my legs for him now"..TRANNY CHASER to a T! That is a tranny chaser. Tranny Chaser's are good for Escorts they pay the bills..but they annoy the crap out of me. And I have no issue voicing it.


And women call men like this PLAYERS...GET A CLUE THEY MEAN THE SAME THING.

[tsntx]

^^^ yeah pretty much how i see it

i think guys on here "offended" by that term dont even really know what it means

i dont think ANY girl here thinks EVERY guy is a tranny chaser.... just most

[MrsKellyPierce]

^^^ yeah pretty much how i see it

i think guys on here "offended" by that term dont even really know what it means

i dont think ANY girl here thinks EVERY guy is a tranny chaser.... just most Or a guilty conscious lol

[MrsKellyPierce]

To add most tranny chasers if you say you aren't my type nicely..They keep persisting why...and then finally you tell them why...after they keep ASKING over and over again.

Then they reply with:

"Fuck you Cunt you a man you a man"

"You look like a dude anyways"

And the list of bitter comments go on after you tell them nicely to leave you be.. So now I just ignore them. And if I adress them I do it publically in a chatroom..on here...or on a myspace bulletin..so it never gets to that stupid game of tell me why tell me why.

The mere fact they are going to first tell you how beautiful you are etc then go from that to you a dude TELLS YOU SOMETHING.. They have no respect for what a transexual is. No respect for me if they are adressing me. And no respect for themselves to act so crudely. :roll:

[MrsKellyPierce]

Many girls put guys in that same category no matter what because they have been bombarded with the same "tranny chasing technique bs" over and over so that automatilly put all guys into that chasing category,so being a tranny chaser is automatic here. Nope not for me..if you act respectful..I treat you with respect back. "You have to give respect..to get Respect" MMK

[peggygee]

I was reading a comment by;




Personally I would prefer a man who is experienced and knows what he is doing. Not asking me questions about the lifestyle every 5 minl We take this whole tranny chaser thing wayyyyy too far. We wanna be treated like woman ok put urself in a woman shoes. Str8 guys who have had previous relationships and have alot of GG friends, do woman call them woman chasers....no, they are just regular guys who luv women. If u wanna be a woman then think like a woman and just find a guy who u like and like him and work with him. No one is perfect. Its already hard enuff having and maintaing a relationship in this lifestyle as it is, we need to stop being so picky amd insecure because therre are some really good guys out there but we brush them off as soon as we find out that they use to talk to ts cindy or ts madison. Life is full of obsticles, lets not make uneccesary ones for ourselves.


When I was pre op, the guys I ended up in LTRs with weren't into my
cock, why, maybe because I wasn't into my cock, and opposites attract.

However some of the guys that I was in LTRs with had been with other
girls, and it was nice that they had, had that experience and knew that
was something they were open to.

As Jade said they didn't ask me 50 million stupid questions about 'the life',
they didn't need on the job training, they could hit the ground running.

Now as a post op, the playing field has changed somewhat.

The cockhounds want nothing to do with me since I don't have a cock,
but the beauty part of that is I wouldn't want to be with someone who
wanted me to fuck them or who wanted to suck me off, so that works
well.

What I get now is either the guy who is familiar with the trans lifestyle,
and is open to a post op, or the hetero guy who wouldn't have wanted
to be down with me if I still had a dick.

When I meet a guy, I will ask him what has been his background in
the life, and why is he attracted to transwomen - cause I am trying
to weed out the ones that still crave dick, and that would be creeping
on me.

With the hetero guy, he knows what to do with the pussy, we just have
to make sure he isn't having transphobia.

Other than that, it's win-win for Peggy.

Sorta. :shrug

[peggygee]

... I'm sure the TS's who escort wouldn't like to be labeled "john chasers" or "money chasers". This term reminds me of women who are busty, saying they are "turned off" by men that are attracted to big breasts. The pathology of it all is incredible.

...If I was an older, divorced guy with children who are adults, then I could consider a "serious", long term relationship with a TS, as I have gotten that part of my life out of the way. Problem is, when a man is that age, the attractive trannies just want to put you in the "sugar daddy" trick bag anyway.

Just keeping it real!

Second that big time as an older divorced guy with grown children. I'm a reasonably good looking guy (at least I have never been told otherwise) and would love to meet an "older" mature (as in grown up) TS for a ltr. In my experience the younger ones won't give you the time of day unless you're either a tatooed beefcake or flash money around (or both) and can be unbelievably callous, crass and rude! Older TS' (o.m.g. over 39!!!!) Can't seem to find'em. Just dunno where they disappear to.

Being a middle aged woman I prefer men who are between 35 - 60.

Under 35 and they just aren't mature enough for me, over 60 and they
may stroke out, while stroking, or basically can't keep up with me
because I am a very high energy person, and quite young at heart.

But even when i was younger I preferred older men, and it wasn't about
that sugar daddy thing. Older men knew who they were, what they
wanted out of life, weren't as worried about what people thought.

They also were often more times open to LTRs, and weren't about
putting notches in their bed posts or playing the field like some of
the younger ones.

And of course I have dated guys my own age and even younger, some of
those relationships worked quite well.

Interestingly now I get hit on by a lot of younger guys, maybe it's that
whole MILF thing.

Bottom line, now in the late Summer of my life, I am very particular
about who I let into my bed, head, or heart.

[hwbs]

yeah jade is very wise on the subject...it was also fun hanging out with her at the last party...

[Aragon21]

i dont think ANY girl here thinks EVERY guy is a tranny chaser.... just most

This is my exact point! This topic is about the "generalization" brought up from:


I took these quotes from "Do you feel it's wrong?"


So I am on a few "straight sites"...and I put my status as female. And I talk to the guys for awhile to let them get to know me, then if I want to meet them I tell them. It usually works out in my favor, but there's always that small percent that get mad. Do you think I am wrong for doing it this way? Should I tell them flat out?

On "straight sites" and many others you only have a choice of man, woman, gay man, lesbian woman, couple. So yes say woman.
...
There are people out here that want a LTR that are attracted to feminity in all its forms.

Do NOT get me wrong! There are people in it only for the experience. But this is true for all sexualities. If a man wants to experiment with a man, I would call them bi-curious, and vice-versa for woman wanting to experiment with lesbianism.

Also, there are people that are just out there to put as many notches on the bedpost.

This is why we all (straight/TG/gay/bi-) have our conversations before connecting for a date. We all have our own radar to determine if the person we are talking to is looking to just "hit it." On the flip side, if that is all you want I would hope you would decline if you feel the other person wants more.

This is the presumption that lead to my posting this topic:




Kelly, perhaps you missed the point of my post. You asked the members if we thought not being up front in a profile was ok or not. My post was asking you to figure it out from being on the recieving end of things. How would you feel if someone was less than upfront with you?

The fact that you don't take it that far, is from your perspective only. Maybe someone who spent a short while on the phone with you sees it differently. Wishes he didn't even waist his time on a call, or buying you 1 drink in a club. If a person thinks they've been fooled or tricked from the onset, they might just be a little distrustfull about anything else the other person has to say or offer. Special K I don't want to be viewed as a transexual, because of the judgements and assumptions of what we are about. I don't see the harm in not saying so at first online in a conversation? It doesn't make me who I am as a person certainly. And furthemore let me be more frank...when they think you are a genetic girl they want to work for you take you on a date etc..but as soon as you say you're a transexual it becomes "I'd still let you suck my dick" etc so yeah in that case it's not good.

The presumption that the advance knowledge that you are a TG defines those attracted by that "tranny chasers." The truth is many TGs are more feminine and "girly-girl" than GGs and alot of guys are attracted to that femininity.

There are so many different reasons for someone to be attracted to another, just as there are so many reasons that make some want another to be attracted to them. Some guys like big breasts, some girls don't want a guy to be attracted to them for their breasts. Some girls are attracted to rich men, some men don't want to be attractive for their financial status. On the flipside, some men work hard on their pecs and abs, some women like "teddy bears." Some women spend hours on a treadmill, some men like BBW.

There is a huge difference between being presumptuous and being cautious. Be honest. Be open. And use your own common sense. Does it honestly take anyone on this forum more than a few minutes to determine that someone is finding you attractive for a reason you don't want them to be attracted to you? That's not to say you may not know why they are attracted to you, the variables are countless (personally I am a eyes, lips, face man, and for continuing attraction: intelligence and personality.) But again, if it is not the right reason for you, it doesn't take long to hear the bells and sirens warning you.

:!: Totally should have used the word "presumption" instead of "generalization" in the topic. And no I don't think the majority here are presumptuous but rather are cautious.

:!: And in fairness, there was the rare person not defined as a "tranny chaser" in the original post, but it took 2 1/2 pages (pgs 6-8) to over turn that preconcieved opinion.

[Dkg]

If I was an older, divorced guy with children who are adults, then I could consider a "serious", long term relationship with a TS, as I have gotten that part of my life out of the way. Problem is, when a man is that age, the attractive trannies just want to put you in the "sugar daddy" trick bag anyway.

Just keeping it real!

the reason a guy like that goes into the "sugar daddy" bag is b/c look at all the issues he had to go thru to be seen w/ me? fuck that and him. live your life for yourself not for others in it. he doesnt respect me if all those stipulations must be in order for me to date him. why would an "attractive" *assuming you mean young as well* want to be w/ a guy who couldnt be himself when hes 2x her age *50/25 accounting his kids need to be out of the house already*... if she has her shit together and knows who she is and has the balls to be herself at 25 why on earth would she want a guy she cant respect... bc how could she if thats how he was? thats why he goes in the "sugar daddy trick bag" ... because he deserves it...

just keeping it real :roll:

I really tried to follow that, but I think you lost me. What if the guy liked GGs and TGs but just so happened to end up with a GG, got married, had kids, yada yada, but was divorced and now wanted to be with a TG. Does that make him a Sugar Daddy? or is it b/c he's now older, not as attractive, and has a family now?

I know you had a good point in there, just trying to find it.

[MrsKellyPierce]

i dont think ANY girl here thinks EVERY guy is a tranny chaser.... just most

This is my exact point! This topic is about the "generalization" brought up from:


I took these quotes from "Do you feel it's wrong?"


So I am on a few "straight sites"...and I put my status as female. And I talk to the guys for awhile to let them get to know me, then if I want to meet them I tell them. It usually works out in my favor, but there's always that small percent that get mad. Do you think I am wrong for doing it this way? Should I tell them flat out?

On "straight sites" and many others you only have a choice of man, woman, gay man, lesbian woman, couple. So yes say woman.
...
There are people out here that want a LTR that are attracted to feminity in all its forms.

Do NOT get me wrong! There are people in it only for the experience. But this is true for all sexualities. If a man wants to experiment with a man, I would call them bi-curious, and vice-versa for woman wanting to experiment with lesbianism.

Also, there are people that are just out there to put as many notches on the bedpost.

This is why we all (straight/TG/gay/bi-) have our conversations before connecting for a date. We all have our own radar to determine if the person we are talking to is looking to just "hit it." On the flip side, if that is all you want I would hope you would decline if you feel the other person wants more.

This is the presumption that lead to my posting this topic:




Kelly, perhaps you missed the point of my post. You asked the members if we thought not being up front in a profile was ok or not. My post was asking you to figure it out from being on the recieving end of things. How would you feel if someone was less than upfront with you?

The fact that you don't take it that far, is from your perspective only. Maybe someone who spent a short while on the phone with you sees it differently. Wishes he didn't even waist his time on a call, or buying you 1 drink in a club. If a person thinks they've been fooled or tricked from the onset, they might just be a little distrustfull about anything else the other person has to say or offer. Special K I don't want to be viewed as a transexual, because of the judgements and assumptions of what we are about. I don't see the harm in not saying so at first online in a conversation? It doesn't make me who I am as a person certainly. And furthemore let me be more frank...when they think you are a genetic girl they want to work for you take you on a date etc..but as soon as you say you're a transexual it becomes "I'd still let you suck my dick" etc so yeah in that case it's not good.

The presumption that the advance knowledge that you are a TG defines those attracted by that "tranny chasers." The truth is many TGs are more feminine and "girly-girl" than GGs and alot of guys are attracted to that femininity.

There are so many different reasons for someone to be attracted to another, just as there are so many reasons that make some want another to be attracted to them. Some guys like big breasts, some girls don't want a guy to be attracted to them for their breasts. Some girls are attracted to rich men, some men don't want to be attractive for their financial status. On the flipside, some men work hard on their pecs and abs, some women like "teddy bears." Some women spend hours on a treadmill, some men like BBW.

There is a huge difference between being presumptuous and being cautious. Be honest. Be open. And use your own common sense. Does it honestly take anyone on this forum more than a few minutes to determine that someone is finding you attractive for a reason you don't want them to be attracted to you? That's not to say you may not know why they are attracted to you, the variables are countless (personally I am a eyes, lips, face man, and for continuing attraction: intelligence and personality.) But again, if it is not the right reason for you, it doesn't take long to hear the bells and sirens warning you.

:!: Totally should have used the word "presumption" instead of "generalization" in the topic. And no I don't think the majority here are presumptuous but rather are cautious.

:!: And in fairness, there was the rare person not defined as a "tranny chaser" in the original post, but it took 2 1/2 pages (pgs 6-8) to over turn that preconcieved opinion. Again you took what I said out of context but whatever..I explained myself clearly a page back READ.

[Aragon21]

Again you took what I said out of context but whatever..I explained myself clearly a page back READ.

Nope I didn't can't imagine you actually read my post and looked at the 3 pages I referenced in less than 5 minutes.

But if shouting you're right is what makes you happy shout away. :lol:

[joeboz]

I understand what Kelly means as far as tranny chaser - it's the same as a player.

Just don't be a cock about stuff - TG and GG's both feel used & abused by a guy who shows up with all sorts of promise and then just disappears after he bangs her, though if a girl gives it up too quickly, the guy tends to wander sooner - typical guy nature.

I'm speaking in generalizations of course, but you get my point.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Again you took what I said out of context but whatever..I explained myself clearly a page back READ.

Nope I didn't can't imagine you actually read my post and looked at the 3 pages I referenced in less than 5 minutes.

But if shouting you're right is what makes you happy shout away. :lol: I wasn't shouting..I just emphasize on wording..mmk

[MrsKellyPierce]

I understand what Kelly means as far as tranny chaser - it's the same as a player.

Just don't be a cock about stuff - TG and GG's both feel used & abused by a guy who shows up with all sorts of promise and then just disappears after he bangs her, though if a girl gives it up too quickly, the guy tends to wander sooner - typical guy nature.

I'm speaking in generalizations of course, but you get my point. Exactly!!!

[Aragon21]

I understand what Kelly means as far as tranny chaser - it's the same as a player.

Just don't be a cock about stuff - TG and GG's both feel used & abused by a guy who shows up with all sorts of promise and then just disappears after he bangs her, though if a girl gives it up too quickly, the guy tends to wander sooner - typical guy nature.

I'm speaking in generalizations of course, but you get my point.

Funny you should write, you are the rare exception I referred to. Recall pages 6-8 on the topic "Do you feel it's wrong" You told your experience on page 6 and it wasn't till page 8 that you were not a "tranny chaser."

I realize this was because she didn't read what you actually said from her statement to you of "why do you call yourself a 'tranny chaser'," because no where did you say you were. But my point is that you were preconcieved to be one.

:!: Again, I repeat, should have used "presumption" instead of "generalization" in the topic title.

Think all my extended posts on this topic have stated use your own internal radar/compass/common sense to evaluate without a preconceived notion but rather with caution. There are sexual predators for all types of interests.

This topic was not about clarifying what a jerk is. It is about not presuming the worst 1st.

:?: I would love to hear more from ladies that may have personally held this preconception or been close to someone who did, and how they eventually did find love.

[peggygee]

I would love to hear more from ladies that may have personally held this preconception or been close to someone who did, and how they eventually did find love.

It is relatively simple, if you allow people to dis-respect you or
play you they may attempt to do so.

You need to be firm and resolute about what you are willing to accept
in a relationship.

I have Known good love.

I have known bad love.

I am only worthy of good love.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I understand what Kelly means as far as tranny chaser - it's the same as a player.

Just don't be a cock about stuff - TG and GG's both feel used & abused by a guy who shows up with all sorts of promise and then just disappears after he bangs her, though if a girl gives it up too quickly, the guy tends to wander sooner - typical guy nature.

I'm speaking in generalizations of course, but you get my point.

Funny you should write, you are the rare exception I referred to. Recall pages 6-8 on the topic "Do you feel it's wrong" You told your experience on page 6 and it wasn't till page 8 that you were not a "tranny chaser."

I realize this was because she didn't read what you actually said from her statement to you of "why do you call yourself a 'tranny chaser'," because no where did you say you were. But my point is that you were preconcieved to be one.

:!: Again, I repeat, should have used "presumption" instead of "generalization" in the topic title.

Think all my extended posts on this topic have stated use your own internal radar/compass/common sense to evaluate without a preconceived notion but rather with caution. There are sexual predators for all types of interests.

This topic was not about clarifying what a jerk is. It is about not presuming the worst 1st.

:?: I would love to hear more from ladies that may have personally held this preconception or been close to someone who did, and how they eventually did find love. As I explained I have found love with three individuals. However I am not that stupid not to know when someone isn't being real and just sweet talking to get what they want. I am also not the type to put up with some idiot that is horny. And just wants to talk about sex. You can tell the difference, by someone being REAL. If you can't then I feel SORRY for you.

If they want to talk dirty -- I'll be more than glad to give them my pay pal..and talk dirty to them. Just like when I was on Ifriends or Imlive.

[Aragon21]

As I explained I have found love with three individuals. However I am not that stupid not to know when someone isn't being real and just sweet talking to get what they want. I am also not the type to put up with some idiot that is horny. And just wants to talk about sex. You can tell the difference, by someone being REAL. If you can't then I feel SORRY for you.

If they want to talk dirty -- I'll be more than glad to give them my pay pal..and talk dirty to them. Just like when I was on Ifriends or Imlive.

I know you can type, but have you read any of my posts?


There is a huge difference between being presumptuous and being cautious. Be honest. Be open. And use your own common sense. Does it honestly take anyone on this forum more than a few minutes to determine that someone is finding you attractive for a reason you don't want them to be attracted to you? That's not to say you may not know why they are attracted to you, the variables are countless (personally I am a eyes, lips, face man, and for continuing attraction: intelligence and personality.) But again, if it is not the right reason for you, it doesn't take long to hear the bells and sirens warning you.

If you can't READ, I feel sorry for you! :roll:

[MrsKellyPierce]

As I explained I have found love with three individuals. However I am not that stupid not to know when someone isn't being real and just sweet talking to get what they want. I am also not the type to put up with some idiot that is horny. And just wants to talk about sex. You can tell the difference, by someone being REAL. If you can't then I feel SORRY for you.

If they want to talk dirty -- I'll be more than glad to give them my pay pal..and talk dirty to them. Just like when I was on Ifriends or Imlive.

I know you can type, but have you read any of my posts?


There is a huge difference between being presumptuous and being cautious. Be honest. Be open. And use your own common sense. Does it honestly take anyone on this forum more than a few minutes to determine that someone is finding you attractive for a reason you don't want them to be attracted to you? That's not to say you may not know why they are attracted to you, the variables are countless (personally I am a eyes, lips, face man, and for continuing attraction: intelligence and personality.) But again, if it is not the right reason for you, it doesn't take long to hear the bells and sirens warning you.

If you can't READ, I feel sorry for you! :roll: Yes I read your posts thats why I am replying. You aren't the one that has to deal with the trolls or tranny chasers. So when you do..you see how you handle it after fighting the same tiring fight over and over again. Thats why I warn them publically and write things out to them publically. They are nusianse, they are as I said good for the escorts.

[Aragon21]

As I explained I have found love with three individuals. However I am not that stupid not to know when someone isn't being real and just sweet talking to get what they want. I am also not the type to put up with some idiot that is horny. And just wants to talk about sex. You can tell the difference, by someone being REAL. If you can't then I feel SORRY for you.

If they want to talk dirty -- I'll be more than glad to give them my pay pal..and talk dirty to them. Just like when I was on Ifriends or Imlive.

I know you can type, but have you read any of my posts?


There is a huge difference between being presumptuous and being cautious. Be honest. Be open. And use your own common sense. Does it honestly take anyone on this forum more than a few minutes to determine that someone is finding you attractive for a reason you don't want them to be attracted to you? That's not to say you may not know why they are attracted to you, the variables are countless (personally I am a eyes, lips, face man, and for continuing attraction: intelligence and personality.) But again, if it is not the right reason for you, it doesn't take long to hear the bells and sirens warning you.

If you can't READ, I feel sorry for you! :roll: Yes I read your posts thats why I am replying. You aren't the one that has to deal with the trolls or tranny chasers. So when you do..you see how you handle it after fighting the same tiring fight over and over again. Thats why I warn them publically and write things out to them publically. They are nusianse, they are as I said good for the escorts.

I agree 99%! :D The 1% being I should never have to deal with a tranny chaser cause they'd be barking up the wrong tree. :shock:

[MrsKellyPierce]

As I explained I have found love with three individuals. However I am not that stupid not to know when someone isn't being real and just sweet talking to get what they want. I am also not the type to put up with some idiot that is horny. And just wants to talk about sex. You can tell the difference, by someone being REAL. If you can't then I feel SORRY for you.

If they want to talk dirty -- I'll be more than glad to give them my pay pal..and talk dirty to them. Just like when I was on Ifriends or Imlive.

I know you can type, but have you read any of my posts?


There is a huge difference between being presumptuous and being cautious. Be honest. Be open. And use your own common sense. Does it honestly take anyone on this forum more than a few minutes to determine that someone is finding you attractive for a reason you don't want them to be attracted to you? That's not to say you may not know why they are attracted to you, the variables are countless (personally I am a eyes, lips, face man, and for continuing attraction: intelligence and personality.) But again, if it is not the right reason for you, it doesn't take long to hear the bells and sirens warning you.

If you can't READ, I feel sorry for you! :roll: Yes I read your posts thats why I am replying. You aren't the one that has to deal with the trolls or tranny chasers. So when you do..you see how you handle it after fighting the same tiring fight over and over again. Thats why I warn them publically and write things out to them publically. They are nusianse, they are as I said good for the escorts.

I agree 99%! :D The 1% being I should never have to deal with a tranny chaser cause they'd be barking up the wrong tree. :shock: And why are you debating with me in the first place we had a nice conversation yesterday..BUTTHEAD :lol:

[BeardedOne]

So, (In a feeble effort to break the quote-quote-quote-quote chain) where does that place someone like me?

I'm fairly intelligent, reasonably sincere, I try to be a good person, fair to all, and I make a sincere attempt to be respectful of all people (Even the moronic assholes of the world, of which there are many).

Yet I have an active interest in T-gurls, have a definite lust for some of them, and (To be quite honest) probably wouldn't see them in much the same way if they didn't have that 'something extra'.

Am I a 'chaser'? Some have said that here, but usually as a backhanded aside similar to "Ahh, y'muddah!", so it's hard to take the stab seriously.

Perhaps a poll....

[ezed]

Perhaps a poll....

Will one of the choices be "Am I Gay?" If not, then I suggest a pie chart, or bar graph....just to mix it up a little bit. Any comments? :?:

[Ecstatic]

So, (In a feeble effort to break the quote-quote-quote-quote chain) where does that place someone like me?
Horny.

Face it, B1, you're a horny hermit. :lol:

[tsntx]

If I was an older, divorced guy with children who are adults, then I could consider a "serious", long term relationship with a TS, as I have gotten that part of my life out of the way. Problem is, when a man is that age, the attractive trannies just want to put you in the "sugar daddy" trick bag anyway.

Just keeping it real!

the reason a guy like that goes into the "sugar daddy" bag is b/c look at all the issues he had to go thru to be seen w/ me? fuck that and him. live your life for yourself not for others in it. he doesnt respect me if all those stipulations must be in order for me to date him. why would an "attractive" *assuming you mean young as well* want to be w/ a guy who couldnt be himself when hes 2x her age *50/25 accounting his kids need to be out of the house already*... if she has her shit together and knows who she is and has the balls to be herself at 25 why on earth would she want a guy she cant respect... bc how could she if thats how he was? thats why he goes in the "sugar daddy trick bag" ... because he deserves it...

just keeping it real :roll:

I really tried to follow that, but I think you lost me. What if the guy liked GGs and TGs but just so happened to end up with a GG, got married, had kids, yada yada, but was divorced and now wanted to be with a TG. Does that make him a Sugar Daddy? or is it b/c he's now older, not as attractive, and has a family now?

I know you had a good point in there, just trying to find it.

lol well thnx for trying... no thats not what im saying.. that kind of stuff happens gay bi tg gg w/e ... im saying if a guy gets married to a gg b/c hes too chicken shit to date a ts or doesnt want ppl to think hes gay so he settles w/ a gg, then said guy has children w/ the gg but gets divorced while kids are still living at home so he still refuses to date a ts bc hes still too chicken shit to date one for fear of others reactions, then said guys kids are old enough to go out on their own and leave the nest, now said guy is 50 and feels he could date a "hot 25yr old ts" bc his kids are out of the house so he wont get "caught" as easy or can hide her should the kids wanna come home for the holidays or w/e... therefore i feel said guy should just stick to the escorts since he wants them on his own terms and when no one else is around... thats not what dating is about...

that help?

[Trogdor]

Not enough butter on the HA popcorn.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/popcorn.jpg

Brought my own. :wink:

:popcorn


I think there outta be some of this, too. :arrow: :spam

:mrgreen:

[Dkg]

If I was an older, divorced guy with children who are adults, then I could consider a "serious", long term relationship with a TS, as I have gotten that part of my life out of the way. Problem is, when a man is that age, the attractive trannies just want to put you in the "sugar daddy" trick bag anyway.

Just keeping it real!

the reason a guy like that goes into the "sugar daddy" bag is b/c look at all the issues he had to go thru to be seen w/ me? fuck that and him. live your life for yourself not for others in it. he doesnt respect me if all those stipulations must be in order for me to date him. why would an "attractive" *assuming you mean young as well* want to be w/ a guy who couldnt be himself when hes 2x her age *50/25 accounting his kids need to be out of the house already*... if she has her shit together and knows who she is and has the balls to be herself at 25 why on earth would she want a guy she cant respect... bc how could she if thats how he was? thats why he goes in the "sugar daddy trick bag" ... because he deserves it...

just keeping it real :roll:

I really tried to follow that, but I think you lost me. What if the guy liked GGs and TGs but just so happened to end up with a GG, got married, had kids, yada yada, but was divorced and now wanted to be with a TG. Does that make him a Sugar Daddy? or is it b/c he's now older, not as attractive, and has a family now?

I know you had a good point in there, just trying to find it.

lol well thnx for trying... no thats not what im saying.. that kind of stuff happens gay bi tg gg w/e ... im saying if a guy gets married to a gg b/c hes too chicken shit to date a ts or doesnt want ppl to think hes gay so he settles w/ a gg, then said guy has children w/ the gg but gets divorced while kids are still living at home so he still refuses to date a ts bc hes still too chicken shit to date one for fear of others reactions, then said guys kids are old enough to go out on their own and leave the nest, now said guy is 50 and feels he could date a "hot 25yr old ts" bc his kids are out of the house so he wont get "caught" as easy or can hide her should the kids wanna come home for the holidays or w/e... therefore i feel said guy should just stick to the escorts since he wants them on his own terms and when no one else is around... thats not what dating is about...

that help?


Ya, much better. Ok I can see where you're coming from with that, but I kind of blame society some. Of course it's still up to the guy to decide not to let society dictate his life, but for some people, it's hard. very hard

[Kriss]

I commented on this "tranny chaser" nonsense before. This term reminds me of women who are busty, saying they are "turned off" by men that are attracted to big breasts. The pathology of it all is incredible. Imagine a guy who works out and has a nice physique saying "I don't date women who compliment my physique" or "I prefer women who like skinny or fat men, so I don't feel like a piece of meat". Enough with the mind games already.

As usual Beatmaker is bang on the money. :rock2 :rock2 :rock2


However, if he hasn't had children already and done the "family man" thing, the relationship is doomed for failure. I speak from experience, as I haven't had children yet and really want a child. If I was an older, divorced guy with children who are adults, then I could consider a "serious", long term relationship with a TS, as I have gotten that part of my life out of the way.

This confuses me though. With this statement you blatently speak from a position of IN-experience, as you state yourself, you have not had the kids yet. how can you possibl;y say how you would feel about LTR when your kids are grown and you "have gotten that part of life out of the way"? Do you really know how you will feel in 20 years? Having a kid isn't a box that i feel like i need to 'tick'. Job, family, house, car, pension, council tax, insurance policies, golf clubs in the boot, spare dick in the glove box.......

Ain't gonna be no time for LTR in 20 years man, haven't you seen mad max?


You aren't the one that has to deal with the trolls

"trolls" ? that's a new one to me.

[hwbs]

let the :deadhorse rest in peace

[beatmaker]

If I was an older, divorced guy with children who are adults, then I could consider a "serious", long term relationship with a TS, as I have gotten that part of my life out of the way. Problem is, when a man is that age, the attractive trannies just want to put you in the "sugar daddy" trick bag anyway.

Just keeping it real!

the reason a guy like that goes into the "sugar daddy" bag is b/c look at all the issues he had to go thru to be seen w/ me? fuck that and him. live your life for yourself not for others in it. he doesnt respect me if all those stipulations must be in order for me to date him. why would an "attractive" *assuming you mean young as well* want to be w/ a guy who couldnt be himself when hes 2x her age *50/25 accounting his kids need to be out of the house already*... if she has her shit together and knows who she is and has the balls to be herself at 25 why on earth would she want a guy she cant respect... bc how could she if thats how he was? thats why he goes in the "sugar daddy trick bag" ... because he deserves it...

just keeping it real :roll:


You TOTALLY missed the point, due to your own issues! You have taken what me and Iluvshemales said, as this whole "You want to save the tranny, after you've done everything and been everywhere" trip. That is NOT the point. I am 30 years old and want to have children someday. If your parents didn't have that urge, you would'nt be here either, GM or TS. The bottomline is, you can't procreate with a TS and you can't legally marry a TS either. So, if I want to start family, a TS isn't a logical choice right now. It has nothing to do with "hiding" or "creeping" around with her, out of some sort of societal fear or pressure. Sure, I could knock some GG up and have a "baby mama", while having a serious LTR relationship with a TS, but I love GG's equally, so what sense does that make. Furthermore, most family court judges will use this type of romantic relationship against you, as not "traditional in child support/visitation hearings. Another thing, iluvshemales actually stated he wanted a relationship with a "mature" shemale, but has problems finding them. He didn't say he expects a 18-25 y.o transsexual, but someone closer in age. I don't think he deserves your ire TSNTX. You have men and women who are gay, who get married and start relationships out of obligation, confusion and guilt in their younger years. However, they may eventually come clean with their spouse and family decades later, get a divorce and locate a same sex partner they can pursue a LTR with, if they haven't already. With that said, a lesbian who "came out" in her 50's, should potential lesbian mates say "Fuck you, you were living a "soccer mom" lie when you were young, so you deserve to be used by me." Cmon!

TSNTX, it's ironic how you have used the 'tranny chaser" term, but tell men they should have the courage, when they are young to come clean with their families, coworkers and overall society. I don't think using perogative terms like 'tranny chaser" fosters a positive environment for those young men, do you?

[Legend]

In my experience, the only people who worry about the usage of the term "tranny chaser" usually are tranny chasers.

-Quinn

QFT