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MiaIsabella1985
03-06-2007, 02:00 AM
I have been researching for a long time and think that maybe my journey lies beyond the transgendered world and may have SRS soon. I have always felt displaced with my genetalia and have only recently became comfortable with that aspect of myself. Doing Porn, Being Dominant as an entertainer but my true pleasure before all that came from being treated and loved and desired as a women. The only reason my "transformation" was made public was to help build my confidence from being a demure individual to being proud of who and what I am. I had a large support system of 6 really close TS sisters who helped me and taught me manythings However, from what I have seen in the world and from where I see the transgendered lifestyle leading to does not appeal to me. It seems more than anything to be a stumbling block that is very hard for most to climb over and be able to achieve the greatness they have to offer only becuase they have a dick and I find it rediculous that most men I have ever encountered publically or as an entertainer enjoy sexually but only privately. Where are the in love transexual and man as a couple walking down the street to lunch together? You dont see it! It seems to be a path of self destruction mentally and emotionally. Now I understand that whether I have a dick or not I am still going to be the person I am meant to be. On the other hand I would feel more comfortable for myself and for no one else to be without it because anyone that I met or decided to be in a relationship with would not be after me simply for my "Unique" qualities, I also understand that if someone likes me or enjoys my company it will not matter whether or not I have a dick or not. It just amazes me how many men think just because we look like women its ok to suck our dicks or have us fuck them but they are "Straight" What a Crock of Shit!!!! If society labels us and still want to call us men and gay men at that then what does that make our "Admirers" who are obviously in denial about their sexuality. I dont find it fair that as hard as we try and struggle for our quest to womanhood we are trapped into a corner to be seen as entertainment for those that keep us oppresed. Obviously as history has shown it is just in their nature to do such terrible things to make themselves feel more superior to a group that is different. Use Slavery as an example . . . African Americans were seen as crops or stock and used and abused but behind closed their owners were fucking them and using them as toys all day everyday bit they had no rights! Rediculous And as I compare the benifits of being a transformed woman to that of a pre op transgendered I see many of the same similarities involved. Growing up in the deep south and being a very fair skinned child compared to my siblings I could see how differently I was treated and loved only becuase of physical aspects and see the same behavior concerning the TS Community. How in the FUCK is it that Ru Paul and Frank Marino can dress up like women and talk like men and be accepted by the Main Stream and loved to a point where Frank is living next to Michael Jackson and Famous NBA players having million dollar contracts and publicity but we as TS women are left to struggle and hide in the shadows as most do to turn tricks and do porn for pennies so men can gawk and masterbate to us for their amusement while they go home to their clueless wives after theyve sucked a dick and live their lives without scorn. Maybe it is better to be a woman with this knowledge than to be catagorized with stigma.

peggygee
03-06-2007, 02:20 AM
Mia, that was a poignant and well crafted post.

I can see that you have given alot of thought to your decision.

This may sound strange coming from a post op woman, but give
it a little more thought, talk it over with those that you trust to
give you an informed opinion.

What you are contemplating is one of the most serious decisions
you will ever have to make in your life.

Get all the information, check out various surgeons, check with
other post op women about their experience with that surgeon.

Go into this with realistic expectations, it of course is not a cure-all
for all of lives problems.

In literally minutes there will be a barrage of posts that will either
try to dissuade you, and some may encourage you.

I will only suggest that you listen to your heart and mind in making
this decision, in this and in al things be the Captain of your own
ship.

If I can be of any help in any small way don't hesitate to ask. I am
partial to the Thai surgeons, but could perhaps suggest others if in
fact you haven't already chosen one.

Good luck,

Peg.

phxguy
03-06-2007, 02:22 AM
Mia, it's up to you to make that important decision. Whatever makes you more happy. If it means anything, I do like you the way you are now.

Bic
03-06-2007, 02:22 AM
best of luck to you in what every dissisions you make :)

MrsKellyPierce
03-06-2007, 02:24 AM
Good luck mami in it!!!

Vicki Richter
03-06-2007, 02:27 AM
A lot of guys won't like this, but it was a really powerful honest post. I am really proud of you. I think most of us want to do the post-op thing and are drawn that way. I hate it when I talk to girls I know who say things like, "I want to but how will I make my money?" Other girls have a hard time saving $30k or getting credit to do it.

That's why I always preach about education to girls whenever I get a chance. Escort? Yes. But spend the money to prepare yourself for the future when you are no longer able to be a sex worker. Use the money for surgeries, education, etc. Those are things that nobody can take from you once you have them. The last thing I would rely on is a marriage or relationship to be for life. My parents are one of the only couples I know who have always been together... and it took each of them more than one time to get there.

Anyway, your post was really full of a lot of honesty. I respect that a lot.

Vicki

phxguy
03-06-2007, 02:28 AM
I agree Vicki. There's always that part of me that wishes that TS wouldn't go through with the SRS, but of course, it's really up to them. Better to be happy than not happy.

Linsey
03-06-2007, 02:50 AM
Mia, while I may just be at the start of my journey, I can understand the feelings that you have. It is a hard thing to assume another public identity when you have made your reputation for being a certain way. This not only goes for the transition from male to pre-op or from pre-op to post-op, but in all areas of life.

I hope that whatever decision you make, that you make it yourself and that you do not fall into the trap of having someone else make you into the image that they want. I have a few people offer to help me with my transition, but I have turned all of rhem down, because their idea of what I needed to do was different from mine. Each one of us has an image of what we want to be. For anyone to want to make us into a different image is just wrong.

So, while people may pull you one way or another. The only one who knows what is right is you. I respect you and will be praying for the best for you.

-Linsey

Fox
03-06-2007, 03:07 AM
It just amazes me how many men think just because we look like women its ok to suck our dicks or have us fuck them but they are "Straight" What a Crock of Shit!!!! If society labels us and still want to call us men and gay men at that then what does that make our "Admirers" who are obviously in denial about their sexuality.

Hm. I'm curious about something. You said "look" like women. Do you not consider yourself a woman intrinsically? Just wondering. Also, what's wrong with a straight male (who wants women only, be it GG or TG) embrassing a tgirl's body (penis and all)? Unless I'm misunderstanding you (let me know if I am), you seem to be doing the same thing which you hate (labelling: "admirers who are obviously in denial").

Good luck in the decision you make. :)

RangeHova
03-06-2007, 03:13 AM
I am not at all one of these people who would try to change your mind for SRS because I enjoy seeing your pictures and what not. But in reading this post it sounds like your reasons for the possibility of SRS are based in society, based in what other think about you and how they view you. I am not saying that is all that is in your thoughts, I’m just going by this one post only.

I don’t think most of society sees a girl who has had SRS anymore a female than one that hasn’t. In most cases they don’t know what is inside of your panties. As far as the men that enjoy you behind closed doors, if they think the people around them will view you as a TS (post or preop) they still will shy away from enjoying you in public.

The fact is, general society sees us males that admirer ladies such as yourself as gay. If society saw us as straight so many guys wouldn’t be hiding the fact that they date Ts women.

I think if your main concerns are society and how they view you then you need to concentarate more on how you appear. Not that I am saying you aren’t passible, I don’t know if you are or aren’t. But if you can go out and live your daily life without people seeing you as a TS then a lot of those issues will not be so prominent. Even with men, if a man thinks he can take you on a date, home to meet the family, and to his office without anyone whispering “is she a…” they are a hell of a lot less likely to keep your relationship behind closed doors.

The Ts community is a great support system for girls but at times it can hinder some girls from knowing how to live in everyday society. Use it for the needed support and give your support to your sisters but don’t get so caught up in it that it because what your life centers around. Sometimes the shelter that that world offers girls can damage them when they want to venture outside of it. That is one of the best things about those girls that have jobs, go to (or have gone) school, or conduct business outside the realms of drag shows, escorting, or porn (that is not to down the girls that do those things). Living a life so far from mainstream can make it hard on a girl who wants the normal mainstream things out of life.

Again, I think SRS is something that many girls need. I would neber try to dissuade a girl from going that route if it was something she needed. I think it has to be a decision that is about you and how you see yourself not about men, people on the street or anyone else. If they see you as a woman, it won’t matter what is down there.

BeardedOne
03-06-2007, 03:13 AM
Sweetie, thanks for such a lovely, thought out post.

I'd be lying to you (And all) if I said I wasn't all about the dick. I'm a shallow bastard with a focused interest, shaded by a lengthy list of trainwreck GG relationships. That said, I am not (Or at least, don't consider myslef so) cruel enough to begrudge you, or any of the gurls, your happiness.

Would I miss your lovely 'T', damn straight I would! And I'd mourn its loss in whatever lame-ass, short-sighted, superficial way would get me through the week.

Yet would I curse you for your decision to be who or what you want to be? Certainly not!

<Thinking> Y'know, it is so easy to preach these beliefs when relative to a gurl that I only know via forum posts. While my head and heart say that they/she should do what her heart tells her, I sometimes wonder how I'd react if a gurl I know personally, intimatelty was in the midst of the same decision. They've lied to me, I'm sure, when they said "Oh! I would never do that!", but what would be my reaction should they say "Oh, yeah, it's inevitable!"?

:shrug

MiaIsabella1985
03-06-2007, 03:15 AM
Taking one part of my article and questioning it rather than answering it does not make you seem more intelligent or even deep. The only reason a TS would take such a drastic step is because internally they are a woman. That segment of what I wrote was not towards myself or decision it was directed to the men who admire and enjoy TS. If you suck a dick with a woman attached to it or not your still sucking a dick. Isnt that what anyone would say about us? That we may look like a woman but we are still men? I do belive so darling so dont second guess my thoughts with pathetic ? with a ? responses cause I will shut you down.

xoxox Mia Isabella

elo
03-06-2007, 03:15 AM
It just amazes me how many men think just because we look like women its ok to suck our dicks or have us fuck them but they are "Straight" What a Crock of Shit!!!! If society labels us and still want to call us men and gay men at that then what does that make our "Admirers" who are obviously in denial about their sexuality.

Hm. I'm curious about something. You said "look" like women. Do you not consider yourself a woman intrinsically? Just wondering. Also, what's wrong with a straight male (who wants women only, be it GG or TG) embrassing a tgirl's body (penis and all)? Unless I'm misunderstanding you (let me know if I am), you seem to be doing the same thing which you hate (labelling: "admirers who are obviously in denial").

Good luck in the decision you make. :)I was confussed as well.There`s a lot of frustration and disappointment in this post.Not unusual considering the hard life Mia seems to has.

Alison Faraday
03-06-2007, 03:27 AM
I have been researching for a long time and think that maybe my journey lies beyond the transgendered world and may have SRS soon.

Excellent!!

Much luck from here, warm hugs, smiles, and all the soppy crap. :)

A chapter ends, another begins. In many ways I share your sentiments entirely, the observations, everything.

Have you any new hobbies/ideas planned for the future. Here I've started up two little businesses in the last 12-months in preparation. Both just tick over nicely and couldn't be less related to the TG scene if they tried. My contacts know me as female and nothing more. It's now the TG scene side of things which is being phased out. I'm planning for the end of 2007. :)

I hope you break off completely and never look back. :grouphug

xx

BeardedOne
03-06-2007, 03:28 AM
Mia,

This truly isn't a place to make such a decision or to work out your feelings about it. Cockbandits, such as myself, will do nothing but throw criticism at your choice, no matter what it is.

Take some time to yourself, go to Navy Pier and look out over the lake, do the big tour, the Loop, Water Tower, Museum of Science and Industry, and listen to your own voice.

Ours is entirely in the worng language to help you.

Fox
03-06-2007, 03:39 AM
Taking one part of my article and questioning it rather than answering it does not make you seem more intelligent or even deep. The only reason a TS would take such a drastic step is because internally they are a woman. That segment of what I wrote was not towards myself or decision it was directed to the men who admire and enjoy TS. If you suck a dick with a woman attached to it or not your still sucking a dick. Isnt that what anyone would say about us? That we may look like a woman but we are still men? I do belive so darling so dont second guess my thoughts with pathetic ? with a ? responses cause I will shut you down.

xoxox Mia Isabella

Hey, relax, no need to get defensive. I wasn't attacking or challenging you, I was simply confused about something you said. You clarified it for me, thanks. :)

As far as the rest of the post, I agreed with it (guess I should have said so), and everyone already said what I would've, so yeah. Again, best of luck to you. :)

MiaIsabella1985
03-06-2007, 03:56 AM
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT I AM NOT THAT SELFISH TO MAKE THIS POST ONLY ABOUT MYSELF AND WHAT I WANT. MANY OF MY REFERENCES WERE TO MY SISTERS IN THIS COMMUNITY AND HOW I FEEL THAT IT IS UNFAIR THAT OTHERS ARE ABLE TO PUT US IN SUCH A CATAGORIZED POSITION TO RIDICULE OR LABEL US BUT THEY ENJOY THE FRUITS OF OUR LABOR AT SUCH A MINIMAL PRICE FOR THEMSELVES BUT AT SUCH A HIGH PRICE TO US. AS FAR AS MY OWN PASSABILITY AND COMFORT AS A WOMAN IN PUBLIC, I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH BLENDING IN AND BEING SECOND GUESSED. IM ONLY 5'5 115 LBS AND PRETTY GIRLISH IN NATURE BUT THE OUTWARD LOOKS ARE NOT WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. BEFORE I ACTUALLY CAME INTO THIS LIFESTYLE FULLY I WAS WITH A MAN I CARED FOR DEEPLY FOR 3 YEARS AND WOULD HAVE NEVER SEEN MYSELF WHERE I AM TODAY HAVING DONE WHAT IVE DONE. IN FACT I WAS VERY MUCH APART OF HIS FAMILY HELPING HIS MOTHER AND CHILD, HANGING OUT WITH HIS CLOSEST FRIENDS WHO DID NOT KNOW. OF COURSE BECAUSE OF SOMEONE CLOSE TO ME OUTING ME THE RELATIONSHIP CAME TO A PAINFULL END AND ALL BECAUSE OF THE WAY SOCIETY VIEWS A TRANSGENDERED WOMAN. I WAS COMPLETELY LOVED AND ACCEPTED UNTIL MY TRUE NATURE WAS EXPOSED. SO NO I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PASSABILITY AND COMFORT IN MYSELF . . . AS I SAID I JUST FEEL THAT THERE ARE SO MANY ASS BACKWARDS VIEWS TOWARDS US AND IF ADMIRERS CAN ENJOY US SO MUCH WHY IS IT THAT SOCIETY WONT ACCEPT. OF COURSE GETTING MY PUSSY DONE ISNT GONNA CHANGE THE WORLDS VIEWS BUT IT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IN MY OWN SKIN.

Chuck
03-06-2007, 03:59 AM
That was a very thoughtful and eloquent post, Mia. Only you know what is right for you. Only you know exactly who you are. Men who like beautiful trangenders are in no position to offer you adivce concerning this. My "girlfriend" is contemplating the same decision. I love her the way she is so I wish she wouldn't, but since I love her I would continue to love her regardless. Just remember that life is far from perfect even for those who have a vagina.

Also, it is sad that the relationship you described could not survive your outing. That was not your fault and still could happen even with SRS. That decision is about the man loving you and not some surgery.

Just an opinion, but I could be wrong.

BeardedOne
03-06-2007, 04:16 AM
That decision is about the man loving you and not some surgery.

Either he loves you, or he doesn't. The supreme example is the first marriage of Caroline "Tula" (Formerly Barry) Cossey. When the News Of The World outted her, after her marriage, her husband caved to family interests and jettisoned her as so much of yesterday's garbage. Fuck him! Damned momma's boy, sheddcing his true love to conform to his family's skewed morality. :x

I reiterate: This is certainly not the place to seek opinion on the matter of SRS. We love you and we adore your dick, so anything we say is likely to be coloured by those simple facts.

popperluv
03-06-2007, 06:23 AM
Mia it all comes down to what makes YOU happy!

Good luck but you do realize that your cock is a big money maker and is what makes most of us guys go crazy for you .

Solitary Brother
03-06-2007, 06:58 AM
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT I AM NOT THAT SELFISH TO MAKE THIS POST ONLY ABOUT MYSELF AND WHAT I WANT. MANY OF MY REFERENCES WERE TO MY SISTERS IN THIS COMMUNITY AND HOW I FEEL THAT IT IS UNFAIR THAT OTHERS ARE ABLE TO PUT US IN SUCH A CATAGORIZED POSITION TO RIDICULE OR LABEL US BUT THEY ENJOY THE FRUITS OF OUR LABOR AT SUCH A MINIMAL PRICE FOR THEMSELVES BUT AT SUCH A HIGH PRICE TO US. AS FAR AS MY OWN PASSABILITY AND COMFORT AS A WOMAN IN PUBLIC, I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH BLENDING IN AND BEING SECOND GUESSED. IM ONLY 5'5 115 LBS AND PRETTY GIRLISH IN NATURE BUT THE OUTWARD LOOKS ARE NOT WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. BEFORE I ACTUALLY CAME INTO THIS LIFESTYLE FULLY I WAS WITH A MAN I CARED FOR DEEPLY FOR 3 YEARS AND WOULD HAVE NEVER SEEN MYSELF WHERE I AM TODAY HAVING DONE WHAT IVE DONE. IN FACT I WAS VERY MUCH APART OF HIS FAMILY HELPING HIS MOTHER AND CHILD, HANGING OUT WITH HIS CLOSEST FRIENDS WHO DID NOT KNOW. OF COURSE BECAUSE OF SOMEONE CLOSE TO ME OUTING ME THE RELATIONSHIP CAME TO A PAINFULL END AND ALL BECAUSE OF THE WAY SOCIETY VIEWS A TRANSGENDERED WOMAN. I WAS COMPLETELY LOVED AND ACCEPTED UNTIL MY TRUE NATURE WAS EXPOSED. SO NO I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PASSABILITY AND COMFORT IN MYSELF . . . AS I SAID I JUST FEEL THAT THERE ARE SO MANY ASS BACKWARDS VIEWS TOWARDS US AND IF ADMIRERS CAN ENJOY US SO MUCH WHY IS IT THAT SOCIETY WONT ACCEPT. OF COURSE GETTING MY PUSSY DONE ISNT GONNA CHANGE THE WORLDS VIEWS BUT IT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IN MY OWN SKIN.

I agree with everything you have said and congrads on your decision.
Its really hard what transgenders go through......particularly haterz.
How can you know if a guy truly loves you the WOMAN or your dick?
I feel like most guys will want a pussy eventually and cheat on you anyways.
Straight guys like PUSSY and if you dont have one thats a disadvantage.
Many guys on here will disagree but they are wrong......if your straight you CANT give up pussy that easily.
Also
Even if you do get surgery there are haterz...OTHER transgender girls will expose you out of jealousy......you know what I am say is true.
Even if you do have the surgery and pass and all of that if you get exposed as a trans you will get treated that way.
Its wrong but thats how the world is.
So watch out......
Some girls just have to get surgery because if they have a penis they feel deformed.....like a freak ......for those girls I say go ahead.
For others I say think long and hard about your decision.
Guys on this board like you because of your cock.....straight up......yeah your cute and all that but your dick is what sets you apart from other girls.
There is NOTHING wrong with that.
I live in the bay area and there are guys that are out and VERY PUBLIC with their transexual girlsfriends.
Its a little different out here.
I wish you luck and support you in your decision.

RangeHova
03-06-2007, 09:07 AM
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT I AM NOT THAT SELFISH TO MAKE THIS POST ONLY ABOUT MYSELF AND WHAT I WANT. MANY OF MY REFERENCES WERE TO MY SISTERS IN THIS COMMUNITY AND HOW I FEEL THAT IT IS UNFAIR THAT OTHERS ARE ABLE TO PUT US IN SUCH A CATAGORIZED POSITION TO RIDICULE OR LABEL US BUT THEY ENJOY THE FRUITS OF OUR LABOR AT SUCH A MINIMAL PRICE FOR THEMSELVES ...

The guys are going to hate me for this but I think all of the BS that life and the world can throw at you ladies, the high number of men outthere just trying to get thier kink on with you, and the number of men only willing to be with you on the DL should make more women make more of us men prove our worth. I don't mean financially, because that just makes him a trick and you his paid for treat.

Make him take you out and treat you as he would any other women. And rule number one take a good while before the sex comes into play. Keeping the panties up will quickly let you know who is just in it for dick and who is looking for something more.

Warning, you will see less and less men but the men that you run off will not be the ones that you ultimately want to deal with anyway.

As far as passing, from your picture you do seem very passable. I just mentioned that based on your post being more about society and how you are viewed. I wouldn't dare attempt to analyze what is in your mind from one post. I have known a few girls in my years who were driven to SRS or living as women for things like men, friends, societal issues. People around us should never play any major part in a decison for SRS especially when you have so successfully being living as a woman already. Chances are is that those who judge the girls harshly preop will judge them just as harshly postop.

It has to be about Mia, for Mia and no one else.

Best of luck.

wendy48088
03-06-2007, 09:55 AM
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a994
03-06-2007, 10:17 AM
I must agree with RangeHova. The main problem is that society sees t-ladies as men-in-drag, and that leads to the majority of their male admirers only wanting to see them on the DL, for fear that they will be considered gay.

A society that sees t-women as being no different from g-women is a society I would want to live in, for a number of reasons. The problem is, where does one find such a society? Or how does one help bring it about?

Mia, I think you are beautiful and wildly articulate. Do whatever you think is best for you, because are the one who has to live with yourself the most.

a994
03-06-2007, 10:27 AM
. . . AS I SAID I JUST FEEL THAT THERE ARE SO MANY ASS BACKWARDS VIEWS TOWARDS US AND IF ADMIRERS CAN ENJOY US SO MUCH WHY IS IT THAT SOCIETY WONT ACCEPT.




Especially when those same admirers are members of society. And some are in a position to help change attitudes for the better.

Vicki Richter
03-06-2007, 10:49 AM
...I think most of us want to do the post-op thing and are drawn that way. I hate it when I talk to girls I know who say things like, "I want to but how will I make my money?" Other girls have a hard time saving $30k or getting credit to do it...


Might I suggest looking into Marci Bowers in Trinidad, Colorado?

Marci is a post-Op TS Woman herself, is an American GRS/SRS surgeon and has a lot of great reviews.

http://www.marcibowers.com/

http://www.marcibowers.com/grs/gender.html

http://www.marcibowers.com/grs/surgery4.html

GRS / SRS (Genital Surgery - See Note Below) $ 17,500
(including Surgeons Fees, Hospital, Anesth and Supplies. Deposit applied to this total. This fee is the same whether a patient has previously had an Orchiectomy or not)

Having seen her work I feel like she is not skilled in making the end product look like a vagina. The finished products that I have seen from her looked nothing like a genetic woman's pussy. She does not appear to be a talented surgeon in my opinion.

kaientai
03-06-2007, 01:17 PM
First of i have to say great post verry honest and well written.
Now for me i enjoy the company of both ts and gg's when i'm with a ts i usualy botom and enjoy it inmensly with a girl i have never asked for a strapon or something of that nature if this labels me gay or bi or whatever i do not care i know what i like and what makes me happy thats's the only thing that is important to me screw labels. I have not dated a ts privatly but i do not think i would be ashamed of that, but society is what it is and does seem to look down on ts and to some point gay relations wich sucks but unfortunatly thats how it is.
As for you going the srs road if that makes you happy and you are sure about it someone said it is the most important decision you'll make that is right but you should do whatever makes you happy you only live once and you are right about the fact that it doesn't change who you are inside and you seem to be a realy inteligent,warm and good person who i would love to meet someday wether you have a penis or a vagina.
you are beautifull think it over and do what you feel is right

elo
03-06-2007, 03:26 PM
May i ask why you would feel more comfortable with a vagina,Mia?Because you always wanted a vagina more then anything else or because you think the society would except you finally as a women and not reject you anymore?And would you be so anxious about having a vagina when society would except you with a penis as a women?
To me a women is a women no matter she has a vagina or a penis.A women is a women.You can transform a penis to a vagina but you can not change where you come from.
Is society rejecting you because of what is between your legs or where you come from?
No matter how you you decide i hope you make the right decision for you.

CORVETTEDUDE
03-06-2007, 04:19 PM
Mia, whatever you decide to do(and, it IS your decision and no one elses), I am sure you will do it with the same Grace and Dignity with which you have carried yourself, thus far. My thoughts are with you, as you make this profound decision. Let your heart tell you the road to take, not money or fame. Best of luck, with your decision!

AllanahStarrNYC
03-06-2007, 05:19 PM
...I think most of us want to do the post-op thing and are drawn that way. I hate it when I talk to girls I know who say things like, "I want to but how will I make my money?" Other girls have a hard time saving $30k or getting credit to do it...


Might I suggest looking into Marci Bowers in Trinidad, Colorado?

Marci is a post-Op TS Woman herself, is an American GRS/SRS surgeon and has a lot of great reviews.

http://www.marcibowers.com/

http://www.marcibowers.com/grs/gender.html

http://www.marcibowers.com/grs/surgery4.html

GRS / SRS (Genital Surgery - See Note Below) $ 17,500
(including Surgeons Fees, Hospital, Anesth and Supplies. Deposit applied to this total. This fee is the same whether a patient has previously had an Orchiectomy or not)

Having seen her work I feel like she is not skilled in making the end product look like a vagina. The finished products that I have seen from her looked nothing like a genetic woman's pussy. She does not appear to be a talented surgeon in my opinion.

Agreed- I would check out Dr. Metlzer. Seems to be the best in the US right now.

MonsieurValentine
03-06-2007, 05:28 PM
what's the recovery time for something of this nature?

tslvr
03-06-2007, 05:39 PM
Mia, isn't this the proverbial 'two-edged sword'? Ts's are not accepted in mainstream society and NEITHER are their admirers. You want to be a full-fledged woman, and I hope you reach that goal someday and can flourish as such in mainstream society.

werwt22
03-06-2007, 06:09 PM
If you think your being degraded or left in the dark just for being a TS (as far as relationships go) then prepare for the same treatment as a woman after your surgery. Women get used all the time, at least initially, whether it be their skin tone, cup size, ass-to-waist ratio, plain out big ass, reputation, or weight. What a TS has is just another feature that some men find attractive. Reality of the situation is your gonna have people after the dick just like people chase tits and ass. As far as the surgery goes, you should probably take some more time and only accept the opinions of those who are thinking the same, that have been through the same, and are those you consider your close personal friends. You have an attractive personality and many attractive features to me, so I'm sure you wont have much of a problem finding a happy relationship with a man either path you decide. Wish the best for you *wink*

wendy48088
03-06-2007, 07:30 PM
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wendy48088
03-06-2007, 07:32 PM
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Luna555
03-06-2007, 08:12 PM
Im so happy for you on what ever you decide to do. I getting my operation this novemeber with Dr. Supporn. He has a presentation you can download off his website. you should check it out.

crayons
03-06-2007, 10:58 PM
I think Mia has brought up some interesting points but the one that really caught my attention was the following question:

"How in the FUCK is it that Ru Paul and Frank Marino can dress up like women and talk like men and be accepted by the Main Stream and loved to a point where Frank is living next to Michael Jackson and Famous NBA players having million dollar contracts and publicity but we as TS women are left to struggle and hide in the shadows as most do to turn tricks and do porn for pennies so men can gawk and masterbate to us for their amusement while they go home to their clueless wives after theyve sucked a dick and live their lives without scorn. "

I believe the real answer is what people are willing to accept and how much of it they are willing to accept. Let me trying and explain:

Pornography is one of the biggest industries in the United States today (probably the 2nd biggest if not the first) but it's still looked upon as an immoral by the mainstream society. Regardless of how much most (not all) guys say "Oh, I would do anything to be with you and don't care about your past" at the end of the day it will bother then as hell because this is how mainstream society has conditioned us to believe.
The feeling of "why are these people allowed to do this while the rest of us have to struggle" has to do with the stigma brought about a few dirty dozen- who do it for money to achieve fame or whatever other reason that usually is never justifable. The adult industry today is flooded by 'new girls' and I be the first to wager not even a handful of these are in it because they enjoy sex- it's just a scapegoat to quick and easy money.

Because of this stigma a lot of people will be given a hardtime to prove themselves before mainstream society can accept them. On a messageboard like this, pracitcally anyone can say anything and it will be accepted and/or supported by the majority because everyone wants to keep everyone happy- but real-life isn't that kind. Only small communities like this.

Anyway- I'm not sure whether any of this makes sense. I really wasn't going to respond to this post because I honestly won't even pretend I have an answer for your question. Maybe after reading it a few more times and talking to girls in similar situations can I even begin to understand what you are trying to express. My main reason was just to hopefully let you know what I think of the highlighted question, but also, and more importantly, I'm sick and tired of seeing meaningless threads constantly bumped and at the front page while a post like this- which obviously has more substance is backpeddled at the back. It's terrible because recently have had to wade through pointless garbage (by you know who) to find something worthwhile to interest me.

Tranny 411
03-09-2007, 02:28 AM
looks like a hit and run. suckers :roll:

BrendaQG
03-09-2007, 03:09 AM
Congradulations!

As long as you are doing this foryourself and not what "soceity" will make of you.

As for doctors.

I have heard nothing but bad things about Marci Bowers and would not let her touch me with a dull butter knife. Far from "minor" imperfection more like useless for sex with a man.

I have heard nothing but good things about Dr Suporn Watanyusakul MD of Thailand (http://www.supornclinic.com/Welcome.html) He goes so far as to, under certain circumstance guarantee sensation, seven inches of depth, and a realistic result. I have heard nothing but good things from many about him.

Toby Meltzer I have also heard good things about.

Tranny 411
03-09-2007, 03:28 AM
its called marketing. she is either an absloute genius or crazy as shit.

Tranny 411
03-09-2007, 03:39 AM
I have been researching for a long time and think that maybe my journey lies beyond the transgendered world and may have SRS soon. I have always felt displaced with my genetalia and have only recently became comfortable with that aspect of myself. Doing Porn, Being Dominant as an entertainer but my true pleasure before all that came from being treated and loved and desired as a women. The only reason my "transformation" was made public was to help build my confidence from being a demure individual to being proud of who and what I am. I had a large support system of 6 really close TS sisters who helped me and taught me manythings However, from what I have seen in the world and from where I see the transgendered lifestyle leading to does not appeal to me. It seems more than anything to be a stumbling block that is very hard for most to climb over and be able to achieve the greatness they have to offer only becuase they have a dick and I find it rediculous that most men I have ever encountered publically or as an entertainer enjoy sexually but only privately. Where are the in love transexual and man as a couple walking down the street to lunch together? You dont see it! It seems to be a path of self destruction mentally and emotionally. Now I understand that whether I have a dick or not I am still going to be the person I am meant to be. On the other hand I would feel more comfortable for myself and for no one else to be without it because anyone that I met or decided to be in a relationship with would not be after me simply for my "Unique" qualities, I also understand that if someone likes me or enjoys my company it will not matter whether or not I have a dick or not. It just amazes me how many men think just because we look like women its ok to suck our dicks or have us fuck them but they are "Straight" What a Crock of Shit!!!! If society labels us and still want to call us men and gay men at that then what does that make our "Admirers" who are obviously in denial about their sexuality. I dont find it fair that as hard as we try and struggle for our quest to womanhood we are trapped into a corner to be seen as entertainment for those that keep us oppresed. Obviously as history has shown it is just in their nature to do such terrible things to make themselves feel more superior to a group that is different. Use Slavery as an example . . . African Americans were seen as crops or stock and used and abused but behind closed their owners were fucking them and using them as toys all day everyday bit they had no rights! Rediculous And as I compare the benifits of being a transformed woman to that of a pre op transgendered I see many of the same similarities involved. Growing up in the deep south and being a very fair skinned child compared to my siblings I could see how differently I was treated and loved only becuase of physical aspects and see the same behavior concerning the TS Community. How in the FUCK is it that Ru Paul and Frank Marino can dress up like women and talk like men and be accepted by the Main Stream and loved to a point where Frank is living next to Michael Jackson and Famous NBA players having million dollar contracts and publicity but we as TS women are left to struggle and hide in the shadows as most do to turn tricks and do porn for pennies so men can gawk and masterbate to us for their amusement while they go home to their clueless wives after theyve sucked a dick and live their lives without scorn. Maybe it is better to be a woman with this knowledge than to be catagorized with stigma.

Admirers, Chasers, and Men in General:

Attraction to a TS is a natural extention of your attraction to sex in general. Some of you are more adventurous than others. Sex is not an organ based response. It's basis begins in the brain. Men have an inate ability to visualize sex without any direct involvement. On the other hand, men also will seek more opportunities to expand their sexuality albeit hidden and discrete. This is your grace due to the sexual oppression of women over the centuries.

I'm not going to go any deeper than I have. You either get it or you don't. The sooner you release women from oppression in your own mind, the sooner you will understand why men are attracted to Transsexuals.

They are women. What you do with your "woman" behind closed doors is simply called "your preference". To read anymore into it only complicates your life and the life of your partner. Treat them as equals and there is no longer an issue.

Good luck.

As for Frank Marino and others like him in the Entertainment industry, they simply have talent that supercedes the obvious.

freak
03-09-2007, 07:56 PM
I do not think you are near ready for something this big. Just the other day you were talking about being the Jenna J. of T-porn, now you are talking about going post-op. What are you going to do if you change your mind again after you get SRS? There is no turning back from that. You need to seek some real professional help copping, not just from a few of your t-sisters that are going through there own issues, they are just as confussed as you. There are mant post-ops that wish they never did it and now they are feeling like an outcast by both the straight community and the tranny chassers.

Lone Wolf
03-09-2007, 11:37 PM
I hope you will not yet go the SRS route, you have too much porn to do for us horny people that love you. What a fantatsic cock you have and we want to see it in action Mia. Wait until you are older and out of the business

wendy48088
03-10-2007, 10:08 AM
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suckseed
03-10-2007, 10:48 AM
Mia, best of luck, and really only the other women here are probably telling you anything of value. As I'm sure you know.

Peggy - that was my favorite post you've ever made. I wish you would speak (write) as plainly as that more often.

james-k
03-10-2007, 01:06 PM
Mia,
I understand your feelings towards men who want to be with you but keep you as their dirty little secret. Perhaps it may be that you have not found the right man.
I have been living with a transexual woman for almost 4 years now, My family and close friends know her and know that she is a transexual, including my daughter.
SRS is a very final step with no way to return, it is not like having implants and then deciding you do not want them, once it is done it is you cannot go back. My girl friend has a friend who had SRS and since that time her life has beeen a complete mess.
I wish you well in which ever way you choose to life your life but please make sure that the path you take is for the right reasons.
Be safe

SkyTwo
03-10-2007, 03:49 PM
I have to agree with previous posters in pointing out that this isn't the place for answers, just more questions, biases, and agendas. Talk to a professional, confidentially. Then make up your own mind, instead of fishing for feedback from random nobodies. Like myself. (Sense the irony there?)

sooner99
03-17-2007, 03:54 AM
I need to taste/swallow you before you transform..
please

MiaIsabella1985
03-25-2007, 06:47 AM
I asked a guy to create an image of what I would look like after surgery so Im excited to see what it will look like

qeuqheeg222
03-25-2007, 07:35 AM
are you more of a top or bottom?in yer movies you come across as a full on take no prisoners top.access your mental and physical needs before you make some rash decsions...not on how something will look after it is done...

David J.
03-25-2007, 08:23 PM
Thank you, Mia. Without a doubt, this is the best and most honest post I have read here. I have only dated a few TG women and never have been with an escort. As a result of that, I actually got to know a lot about the struggle involved in living and dating as a TG woman and the ulitimate decision of whether to have SRS. It is a tough decision without question and it is one that only you can answer. I do believe there are men who can and do date TG womem and have "normal" relationships together, I'd like to think I'm one of them. While a lot of "admirers", "trannychasers" or whatever you want to call them are obsessed with sucking dick or being penetrated, you should not have anger towards those guys or use SRS as a way of escaping them. You seem to want normalcy and unfortunately, doing porn is a big obstacle to that normalcy. SRS won't change that. The question, I guess, is whether you get any gratification from your penis (physically and mentally); if not, the decision is already made. If you do, then it seems that SRS won't provide what you want which appears to be a decent man (not dick obsessed) and a decent relationship. God bless you with whatever your decision may be.

bellamy
03-25-2007, 08:39 PM
are you more of a top or bottom?in yer movies you come across as a full on take no prisoners top.access your mental and physical needs before you make some rash decsions...not on how something will look after it is done...

I know it's not Oscar stuff but beleive it or not the girls in the movies are still playing roles. Just cause your one way on film doesn't make you that person in real life.

Geez if she want to have SRS more power to ya. And know one makes a decsion like that rashly. All I would advize is since our in the biz already make lots of money while you can cuase it ain't cheap to go through that.

wjcdiver
03-25-2007, 09:12 PM
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT I AM NOT THAT SELFISH TO MAKE THIS POST ONLY ABOUT MYSELF AND WHAT I WANT. .

This should be the most selfish decision you ever make. This decision has to be about you, who you are and your path to happiness. As valuable as your insights can be to others, do not let how it affects anyone else (other than perhaps your family/loved ones) keep you from finding your answer.

I hope you find your path and have much happiness and success.

diver

MiaIsabella1985
04-19-2007, 03:01 AM
The Moment You've All Been Waiting For! Mia Reveals Her Pussy

flabbybody
04-19-2007, 03:47 AM
go for it Mia. we will always be your fans after you're post-op, as long as you're happy. good luck to you.

freak
04-19-2007, 04:51 AM
The Moment You've All Been Waiting For! Mia Reveals Her Pussy

I never seen one that looked that good, here is a photo of the best one I ever seen, but most are not good at all

Guy4U
04-19-2007, 06:32 AM
In the movie "Jerry Maguire" Renee Zelwegger said "You complete me". That was a nice movie line but you have to complete yourself first. I think all of you ladies are heroes for having the guts to be true to yourselves, whether pre or post-op for completing yourself and becoming who you truly are. There are billions of people that are unhappy with their lives and I salute all of you that are brave enough to go after what makes you complete and happy. Once you are there and you love yourself, love from another will surely follow. Congratulations!!

pd5070
04-28-2007, 12:27 PM
Mia you did speak alot of truth in your post. My question to you though is where are the girls like you that want to walk down the street and hold hands? Where are the girls that want to be loved? There are guys are there that will love you. I know it is hard sometimes to tell between the ones who just want sex and someone that will want you for who you are. And I also know that it is easy to shut down or not trust guys after one or two or three have done you wrong. But you shouldn't shut down cause you will miss that guy who is serious. I for one would like to date a girl like you but it is almost impossible to get a girl to take you serious.

Another question is how can you get a girl to trust you enough just so that you can get to know one another?

house
04-28-2007, 09:09 PM
First off, i'm a physician so I just hope you make the right decision after carefully and honestly assessing your thought process. I think it's disingenous of some of you to say "well I can see that you have thought this out real well...or, what a poignant post". Please stop making fools of yourselves but worse yet, prodding a person in the process of a life altering decision into action, despite your good intentions. This post points to a disorganized thought process, several themes underlying the stated goal of this individual: from "i'm going post op" to "and the reason I'm going post op is because men won't love me wholly as long as I have this thing" to "society allows these men to enjoy us and then blend back into their lives with their wives" to "these people exploit us". How ironic that in one respect these men are your champions, finding reason to champion you as an actress, at the same time distancing themselves from you with the caveat "oh but she looks better than alot of girls". This must be frustrating for you. Do carefully think things through however before you make a life altering decision. You will not find answers or truly good advice on a message board of this nature apart from the advice you receive from fellow post op women.
You ought to carefully assess (and i mean use a flow chart and +/= columns and absolutely see a therapist or psychiatrist) the underlying nature of your dissatisfaction before you make a life altering decision of this magnitude. A professional will be very helpful in bringing out and engaging your underlying reasons for the change and it will help you determine if this is what will truly bring you joy in the future. It is likely that you would find a great deal of happiness in the future following SRS as it appears you have been in the business with a mind for the short term. This operation has improved to quite a degree over the past two decades and does appear to bring a great deal of happiness to its receipients. However, there are always exceptions and I think it best for you to carefully consider (certainly not become overly cautious) of SRS and request 1 on 1 advice from your true peers before this decision. Good luck.

jimbobw2
04-30-2007, 03:18 AM
Taking one part of my article and questioning it rather than answering it does not make you seem more intelligent or even deep. The only reason a TS would take such a drastic step is because internally they are a woman. That segment of what I wrote was not towards myself or decision it was directed to the men who admire and enjoy TS. If you suck a dick with a woman attached to it or not your still sucking a dick. Isnt that what anyone would say about us? That we may look like a woman but we are still men? I do belive so darling so dont second guess my thoughts with pathetic ? with a ? responses cause I will shut you down.

xoxox Mia Isabella

do what makes you happy.

corto
04-30-2007, 06:26 PM
« How in the FUCK is it that Ru Paul and Frank Marino can dress up like women and talk like men and be accepted by the Main Stream and loved to a point where Frank is living next to Michael Jackson and Famous NBA players having million dollar contracts and publicity but we as TS women are left to struggle and hide in the shadows as most do to turn tricks and do porn for pennies so men can gawk and masterbate to us for their amusement while they go home to their clueless wives after theyve sucked a dick and live their lives without scorn. Maybe it is better to be a woman with this knowledge than to be catagorized with stigma. »

a) Showbusiness is not the real life. It is an industry where the goal is selling. Ru paul is « cool », people like him, that sells, point. It sounds like « why them and not me ».

b) Porn for pennies ? Prostitution pays in one day what a regular job pays in a month. Do not insult people with low salarys like that.

c) Those men who go home after sucking a cock, you sound pretty thankfull to those who paid the surgery, the expensive clothes, the clubing, and all your « diva »way of life…If you dislike their hypocrisy, too bad, those are the rules, they pay for your silence and discretion too.

d) Stigma, do you really know what that is ? Read about nazi germany and being born jew there to understand what stigma stands for. Trannys are not persecuted by the state or the entire society in the US.

Before getting SRS you must realize something extremely important : you can’t be a woman if you where not born one. You are either a man, a pre op or post op tranny. Keep it in mind and be ready to be a transexual woman

Because you feel discriminated as a « woman with a penis », you will get a « fake » vagina so no one cant tell ? You will hide your past forever and lie about it, even from a partner ? You think by fooling people you will live in peace and harmony ? Well let me congratulate you for the honest behaviour. With yourself and the others.

SRS won’t change anything for you. You are doing it for the wrong reasons and will get the wrong results.

And one last thing, nothing can replace a wet, natural, deep, sensitive, fine aging, and life begining vagina. Sooner or later the truth is revealed.

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TsVanessa69
04-30-2007, 06:57 PM
Because you feel discriminated as a « woman with a penis », you will get a « fake » vagina so no one cant tell ? You will hide your past forever and lie about it, even from a partner ? You think by fooling people you will live in peace and harmony ? Well let me congratulate you for the honest behaviour. With yourself and the others.

SRS won’t change anything for you. You are doing it for the wrong reasons and will get the wrong results.

And one last thing, nothing can replace a wet, natural, deep, sensitive, fine aging, and life begining vagina. Sooner or later the truth is revealed.

I agree, as I have seen many ts with man made holes, that look nothing like a vagina, but worst of all, the girls with SRS still get spooked and read , just as any other ts would. I personally love the fact that I am a WOMAN with a penis, and would not change that for anything in the world. I am just instead of having a pity party about not being accepted, I educate people and make myself accepted. Being a woman is who you are from birth, and a genital change will not make you more of a woman, as a fake vagina will never function as a real vagina would, and you could never give birth, the purpose of the vagina, so why even waste money, mutalate your body and be more miserable than what you were with a penis?

Tranny 411
04-30-2007, 07:47 PM
« How in the FUCK is it that Ru Paul and Frank Marino can dress up like women and talk like men and be accepted by the Main Stream and loved to a point where Frank is living next to Michael Jackson and Famous NBA players having million dollar contracts and publicity but we as TS women are left to struggle and hide in the shadows as most do to turn tricks and do porn for pennies so men can gawk and masterbate to us for their amusement while they go home to their clueless wives after theyve sucked a dick and live their lives without scorn. Maybe it is better to be a woman with this knowledge than to be catagorized with stigma. »

a) Showbusiness is not the real life. It is an industry where the goal is selling. Ru paul is « cool », people like him, that sells, point. It sounds like « why them and not me ».

b) Porn for pennies ? Prostitution pays in one day what a regular job pays in a month. Do not insult people with low salarys like that.

c) Those men who go home after sucking a cock, you sound pretty thankfull to those who paid the surgery, the expensive clothes, the clubing, and all your « diva »way of life…If you dislike their hypocrisy, too bad, those are the rules, they pay for your silence and discretion too.

d) Stigma, do you really know what that is ? Read about nazi germany and being born jew there to understand what stigma stands for. Trannys are not persecuted by the state or the entire society in the US.

Before getting SRS you must realize something extremely important : you can’t be a woman if you where not born one. You are either a man, a pre op or post op tranny. Keep it in mind and be ready to be a transexual woman

Because you feel discriminated as a « woman with a penis », you will get a « fake » vagina so no one cant tell ? You will hide your past forever and lie about it, even from a partner ? You think by fooling people you will live in peace and harmony ? Well let me congratulate you for the honest behaviour. With yourself and the others.

SRS won’t change anything for you. You are doing it for the wrong reasons and will get the wrong results.

And one last thing, nothing can replace a wet, natural, deep, sensitive, fine aging, and life begining vagina. Sooner or later the truth is revealed.

[/quote]

son of a bitch, somebody GETS it :!: :claps

thx corto :D

MiaIsabella1985
04-30-2007, 11:40 PM
I very much appreciate you stating the obvious facts that I am well aware of darling . . . however I would invite you to read my thoughts again so that you may understand that there is a much deeper meaning and point to focus on that I am trying to get across to those who can "truly read" into my words. Your response minimizes the whole meaning when you focus only on one aspect of the entire question. I understand the way society works very well as I have seen in the past few years more than most people well beyond my twenty one young years of age have even yet to experience. You would have to know me personally to know that I am comfortable in my own skin and blend very well into society with just an extra little sparkle than most. Remember that my post addresses many questions and what ifs. And thank you very much for even taking the time to place your well thought out thoughts for my enjoyment I can tell you really gave your response time and effort. Much Love To You :D




Now I understand that whether I have a dick or not I am still going to be the person I am meant to be. On the other hand I would feel more comfortable for myself and for no one else to be without it because anyone that I met or decided to be in a relationship with would not be after me simply for my "Unique" qualities, I also understand that if someone likes me or enjoys my company it will not matter whether or not I have a dick or not. It just amazes me how many men think just because we look like women its ok to suck our dicks or have us fuck them but they are "Straight" What a Crock of Shit!!!! If society labels us and still want to call us men and gay men at that then what does that make our "Admirers" who are obviously in denial about their sexuality. I dont find it fair that as hard as we try and struggle for our quest to womanhood we are trapped into a corner to be seen as entertainment for those that keep us oppresed. Obviously as history has shown it is just in their nature to do such terrible things to make themselves feel more superior to a group that is different. Use Slavery as an example . . . African Americans were seen as crops or stock and used and abused but behind closed their owners were fucking them and using them as toys all day everyday bit they had no rights! Rediculous And as I compare the benifits of being a transformed woman to that of a pre op transgendered I see many of the same similarities involved. Growing up in the deep south and being a very fair skinned child compared to my siblings I could see how differently I was treated and loved only becuase of physical aspects and see the same behavior concerning the TS Community.

Tranny 411
05-01-2007, 12:01 AM
like most of us, corto read between the lines. your reputation precedes you. you are a coniving bitch. your use of i and me makes it clear. you act like a 16 year old. whats your motto? oh yea...."show me the money"
you are sooooo shallow :lol:

wombat33
05-01-2007, 01:48 AM
I very much appreciate you stating the obvious facts that I am well aware of darling . . . however I would invite you to read my thoughts again so that you may understand that there is a much deeper meaning and point to focus on that I am trying to get across to those who can "truly read" into my words. Your response minimizes the whole meaning when you focus only on one aspect of the entire question. I understand the way society works very well as I have seen in the past few years more than most people well beyond my twenty one young years of age have even yet to experience. You would have to know me personally to know that I am comfortable in my own skin and blend very well into society with just an extra little sparkle than most. Remember that my post addresses many questions and what ifs. And thank you very much for even taking the time to place your well thought out thoughts for my enjoyment I can tell you really gave your response time and effort. Much Love To You :D




Now I understand that whether I have a dick or not I am still going to be the person I am meant to be. On the other hand I would feel more comfortable for myself and for no one else to be without it because anyone that I met or decided to be in a relationship with would not be after me simply for my "Unique" qualities, I also understand that if someone likes me or enjoys my company it will not matter whether or not I have a dick or not. It just amazes me how many men think just because we look like women its ok to suck our dicks or have us fuck them but they are "Straight" What a Crock of Shit!!!! If society labels us and still want to call us men and gay men at that then what does that make our "Admirers" who are obviously in denial about their sexuality. I dont find it fair that as hard as we try and struggle for our quest to womanhood we are trapped into a corner to be seen as entertainment for those that keep us oppresed. Obviously as history has shown it is just in their nature to do such terrible things to make themselves feel more superior to a group that is different. Use Slavery as an example . . . African Americans were seen as crops or stock and used and abused but behind closed their owners were fucking them and using them as toys all day everyday bit they had no rights! Rediculous And as I compare the benifits of being a transformed woman to that of a pre op transgendered I see many of the same similarities involved. Growing up in the deep south and being a very fair skinned child compared to my siblings I could see how differently I was treated and loved only becuase of physical aspects and see the same behavior concerning the TS Community.



Wow, very deep, well thought out and very eye opening at the same time. you are very bright for 21.

phxguy
05-01-2007, 02:02 AM
Mia, for what it's worth, you are a woman to me regardless of whether you have SRS or not.

qeuqheeg222
05-02-2007, 08:43 AM
huh?i thought you were a top?or was you just playin...

tsntx
05-02-2007, 08:52 AM
if the only reason some one is going post op is to hide from society as a female then they will be so un-happy after the fact they will commit suicide. like a lot of girls that go post op find out that its NOT whats between their legs that makes them a woman. its whats between your ears. you dont walk around the street naked as can be so if society is rejecting you its b/c youre NOT a 100% passable. NO ONE IS. so now that you got rid of something that no one could see in your daily routine of life you realize that having a vag doesnt make you anymore female then you already were. the sooner a girl realizes that the sooner she can be truely happy of who she is.

corto
05-02-2007, 11:32 AM
Thank you TSNTX.

It is important not to be only guys telling MIA that a sex change wont change labels if she does not know how to define herself.

Tranny 411
05-02-2007, 01:54 PM
everyone is spending far too much time on this topic. Mia has no intention of going post op. Mia is a pathological liar and will say anything to better her monetary position.

her ploy here is to gather sympathy and create the impression that she will no longer be pre op therefore you better buy her DVD and view her online videos before she does the deed. She also tours constantly and this is a way to increase demand and raise her prices. Look at the highly edited pics she uses on eros. not even close to what she looks like.
I saw her once and NEVER again! Her intentions are so obvious it sickens me. :puke

This is only about MONEY.

marketing yourself is wise but there is a positive way and a negative way. Mia will almost always go with the negative. It gives her control.

don't waste your time, she is a complete loser! :twisted:

BREAKING NEWS: Bingo, just checked her eros ad. her rate is now $500.00 per hour. Maybe her ploy is working :lol: SUCKERS! 8)

here's the ad for your laughs and enjoyment. she is an embarrassment to the entire industry:

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Miss international goddess 2006 NYC
Miss Latina continental 2006 Chicago

New projects coming soon including my new site!

Come relax in my private location. Enjoy a relaxing time with no rush and a clean upscale environment.

As my time is very limited I am available for the most generous individual. VIP sessions receive 1st priority booking. Appointments available upon availability. Rates start as listed. The most generous offers will be accepted.
Incall
$300 ½ hour
$500 Priority booking VIP session with autographed DVD
$600 Spa Package (includes private aromatherapy bath and intense erotic massage)
$700 Dinner Date
$1000 Cross Dressing and Transformation Styling ( I will personally shop with you, teaching hair styling and make up tips to ensure your comfort and beauty )
$1200 4 hour Overnight Slumber Party
$1500 Personal Photo Shoot ( erotic lingerie, commercial print, and fashion )
$2000 Out On The Town Rendezvous or Overnight

National and international travel is available upon request with travel arrangements and deposit.

Exclusive travel available for upscale clientele. This service is available only to major cities and major upscale hotels.

All calls are returned as soon as possible, and all emails are answered within 24 hours or less! I respond only to polite respectful inquiries.

A simple screening process is standard and will not be bypassed. You can be confident that our conversations and calls will be treated with discreet confidentiality.

Emails with photos receive 1st priority.

Love Always XOXO
Mia Isabella :roll:

peggygee
05-02-2007, 10:02 PM
While responding to this thread I was reminded of another post, where a
number of the concerns that have been raised here were addressed.

I have re-posted it, in the hopes that it will provide further clarification:



Maggie.. dont take this the wrong way... is it true that a lot of post-ops go crazy or suicidal after surgery? Just heard that and wondering..


Indeed, there are effects that one might not anticipate.

Along the lines of what you are speaking about, is the reality of the GRS,
sinking in.

Sometimes pre ops may feel that if, and when they obtain their surgery,
that all of the problems in their life will magically go away.

That they will stop getting clocked, that they will find the man of their
dreams, they will get great jobs, that the world will stop fucking with
them.

That is so far from the reality. And when reality bitch slaps someone, it
hurts, a lot.

The world does not know, nor in most cases, care that you have achieved
your life long dream.

Further, the 'man you did have'may lose interest in you, or vice -versa,
and your previous friends may not be feeling you, for whatever reason.
Then, there are those that find that may miss the use of their penis.

Those could be some of the things that could or would fuck with
someones mental health. By the by the 'demons' I alluded to in my other
post, weren't GRS related, but other life issues. Hopefully, as much as
possible that type of stuff, has been dealt with, because, problems do not
go away, when the penis goes away.

I can not stress enough, that it is not for everyone. Women, really should
go through the (real life test) RLT, not just jump on the operating table on
a whim.

A person should give it a great deal of thought and study. Ideally they
should not be taking the walk alone, either, but with the aid of a
professional, versed in GID.

Does my being a post op, make me any better, smarter, prettier, than
the non op, or the pre op, HELL 2 the NO!!

Did, it make 'me' happier, in many areas, yes.

Will it change 'your' life, yes!

Will, it change it for the better, maybe.

There are many, many important decisions we will make in our life, this
clearly is at the top of the list, of those not to be taken lightly.

lotiss101
05-10-2007, 10:30 PM
everyone is spending far too much time on this topic. Mia has no intention of going post op. Mia is a pathological liar and will say anything to better her monetary position.

her ploy here is to gather sympathy and create the impression that she will no longer be pre op therefore you better buy her DVD and view her online videos before she does the deed. She also tours constantly and this is a way to increase demand and raise her prices. Look at the highly edited pics she uses on eros. not even close to what she looks like.
I saw her once and NEVER again! Her intentions are so obvious it sickens me. :puke

This is only about MONEY.

marketing yourself is wise but there is a positive way and a negative way. Mia will almost always go with the negative. It gives her control.

don't waste your time, she is a complete loser! :twisted:

BREAKING NEWS: Bingo, just checked her eros ad. her rate is now $500.00 per hour. Maybe her ploy is working :lol: SUCKERS! 8)

here's the ad for your laughs and enjoyment. she is an embarrassment to the entire industry:

Verification is required.
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Shemalestrokers.com
Miss international goddess 2006 NYC
Miss Latina continental 2006 Chicago

New projects coming soon including my new site!

Come relax in my private location. Enjoy a relaxing time with no rush and a clean upscale environment.

As my time is very limited I am available for the most generous individual. VIP sessions receive 1st priority booking. Appointments available upon availability. Rates start as listed. The most generous offers will be accepted.
Incall
$300 ½ hour
$500 Priority booking VIP session with autographed DVD
$600 Spa Package (includes private aromatherapy bath and intense erotic massage)
$700 Dinner Date
$1000 Cross Dressing and Transformation Styling ( I will personally shop with you, teaching hair styling and make up tips to ensure your comfort and beauty )
$1200 4 hour Overnight Slumber Party
$1500 Personal Photo Shoot ( erotic lingerie, commercial print, and fashion )
$2000 Out On The Town Rendezvous or Overnight

National and international travel is available upon request with travel arrangements and deposit.

Exclusive travel available for upscale clientele. This service is available only to major cities and major upscale hotels.

All calls are returned as soon as possible, and all emails are answered within 24 hours or less! I respond only to polite respectful inquiries.

A simple screening process is standard and will not be bypassed. You can be confident that our conversations and calls will be treated with discreet confidentiality.

Emails with photos receive 1st priority.

Love Always XOXO
Mia Isabella :roll:




um , , not sure why Tranny 411 is bashing mia so much, having spent time with her , i found her to be anything but crazy or greedy. she was my first trans experience and i was extremely nervous. she was nothing but patient , kind and considerate. i would recommend seeing her to anyone ! there was no clock watching , rushing , rudeness or any of the other behavior i have heard about directed at her or other escorts. she also seemed like a very caring person and if she's not , she sure had me fooled. i'd see her again as soon as i have a chance.
as mom always said , if you can't say anything nice , keep your yap shut !!!!!