Transexuals who like their dicks?

[Vala_TS]

Do they exist? Of course they do but how common is it? 10%, more, less what exactly?

Because it seems like every TG (Porno or regular ones) want to chop it off or just take too many hormones and have it go limp and never use it again.

So how many Tgirls keep their dick and like to use it?

And here's another question, how do girls like Danielle Foxxx and such have tits (non implant) from hormones yet have a large and working dick? Can one take hormones to grow breasts then stop taking them and have their dicks work or what exactly?

AGTFB

[lust4ts]

Do they exist? Of course they do but how common is it? 10%, more, less what exactly?

Because it seems like every tranny (Porno or regular ones) want to chop it off or just take too many hormones and have it go limp and never use it again.

So how many Tgirls keep their dick and like to use it?

And here's another question, how do girls like Danielle Foxxx and such have tits (non implant) from hormones yet have a large and working dick? Can one take hormones to grow breasts then stop taking them and have their dicks work or what exactly?

AGTFB


:evil: OK where do I start where's Peggy when we need her. Let me try, firstly you could try to be a bit more P C and maybe try refer to transgender people as something a bit less insulting than tranny im sure you'll have more luck connecting with them if you do try Transsexual, Tgirl, Transwomen, Transgirl any of these will do. To your next point these girls keep there dicks as long as they want to, It is most pre op transsexual girls goal to eventually have SRS treatment and when they do just depends on them whether is has to with business acumen (escorting or adult industry) or just there lifestyle or personal preference. So yes im sure there are some pre op transsexuals who like there cocks and there are some who do not but everybody's different and happen to have different motivations. Look I had some pretty fucked up views on this topic but I now feel I understand it on more than just a sexual level and what turns us guy's on, where it seems you are stuck at. I find really annoying when there is news of a girl who is made the obviously hard and brave decision of going post op and you get the usual why the hell does she want to cut that off bullshit, surely it is obvious it's because she no longer feels comfortable with it and would be happier with out it and that is the most important thing at the end of the day. Whether the transsexual in case is in the business of entertaining people by looking pretty and drilling people with her hard cock which I too love to see, she should have the right to choose how she wants to live just like everybody else. As for girls taking too many hormones and going limp as you put it, im sure this is not what they set out to do it's just that there need and feeling for wanting be a women greatly outweighed the need for still being able to obtain an erection so they could still turn on guy's like us on with it. Now to your last question about how some girls have breasts (not implants) take hormones and still keep hard, im not sure but have wondered myself hopefully you have not insulted all the girls here and one will be nice enough to tell you as for the rest of post, stop being so selfish and just looking at things with what’s in you pants and use your brain. No offence but come on.

[Vala_TS]

Sorry, I figured on this board saying "tranny" didn't matter.

I know, it's all about perspective but it's hard to keep an open mind about this stuff when 99% of the girls eventually go dickless. It's hard to have any hope with statistics like that.

EDIT: I've fixed the title now.

AGTFB

[d]

99% eventually go dickless?....where did you get that bullshit from....

[signupjustforthis]

I dont particuarly like mine...i wish i didn't have mine..

but i would play with it...once in a while.. if i am in the mood.

isnt that life? just play with what you got? deals with the hand given to you? blah blah blah lol.

[lust4ts]

Sorry, I figured on this board saying "tranny" didn't matter.

I know, it's all about perspective but it's hard to keep an open mind about this stuff when 99% of the girls eventually go dickless. It's hard to have any hope with statistics like that.

EDIT: I've fixed the title now.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

Maybe it is OK to use that term im no mod, I just think there are better ways of addressing a transgender person. As to your next point im not purposely trying to make you look stupid although it is hard not to, but I do not understand your plight if you are referring to not wanting to have a long term relationship with a pre op transsexual in case some time down the line she wants to go post op that's just crazy. Surely the person themselves is more important than the genitalia they decide to live with and if you truly loved person you would support them and want them to feel comfortable and most importantly happy with who they are, despite your sexually motivated preferences. On the flipside If you are not referring to having a long term relationship then there are loads of pre op fully active girls who love to use there cock's and are not thinking about SRS in the near future. So which ever way look at it you are being very negative about transgender people and what they can offer you, and more importantly society.

[signupjustforthis]

i dont think tranny is that offensive. :o

[tsfarrah]

well I cant speak for all girls but I like mine and I wont be getting rid of it ! lol

[lust4ts]

i dont think tranny is that offensive.

8) Im sure not everybody does, as I said I just think there are better terms and im not the only one I hate to drop names but I think peggy and a few other girls here would agree with me. :)

[signupjustforthis]

i dont think tranny is that offensive.

8) Im sure not everybody does, as I said I just think there are better terms and im not the only one I hate to drop names but I think peggy and a few other girls here would agree with me. :)

okay :P :oops:

[lust4ts]

well I cant speak for all girls but I like mine and I wont be getting rid of it ! lol

:D

[peggygee]

Where's Peggy when we need her.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/batsignallogic.jpg

Having two root canals in one day, digging out of
a snow storm and a bunch of other stuff.

But a big up, for holding it down. :wink:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/big-upresize.jpg

[peggygee]

Sorry, I figured on this board saying "tranny" didn't matter.







i dont think tranny is that offensive.




Yeah I know I sound like the PC po-po half the time.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/pc_police_image.jpg

Now in the big scheme of things is the term tranny a cardinal sin,
is it the worst possible term you can use in reference to a transwoman?

The answer would be NO. :smh

However, here is a sampling of what other transgroups think of the
term:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tranny


tranny:An extremely offensive term for a transsexual man or
woman, or any of the transgendered community.

On the same level as "nigger", and "cunt" for most people,
though, like "dyke", some of the transgendered community
are trying to reclaim the word, without much success.

"So your girlfriend's a tranny?" "... Please don't say that...
She's a woman, just like you are."



http://www.translife.net/wiki/index.php/Offensive_Terminology

Tranny
Sometimes used to refer to transsexuals as well as
automotive transmissions, this term is frequently viewed
as degrading to many in the community. To many it's
viewed as reducing a person to the form of an object.

Unless you're a member of the community or you know
that the trans person is ok with the usage, try to avoid
this one too


http://www.trans-health.com/kara/respect.html


The term "tranny" is slang for transsexual, either as an adjective
or noun. Many feel that it is offensive, on par with words
like fag, dyke and nigger. As such, many feel that only
trans people themselves can reclaim it and use it. In some
cities, however, it only means cross-dresser and not
transsexual. Use it with much caution, if at all.


http://www.tsroadmap.com/start/tgterms.html

tranny: a term used by some TG women to describe other
TG women. Often considered offensive if used by a non-TG

[peggygee]

Do they exist? Of course they do but how common is it? 10%, more, less what exactly?

Because it seems like every TG (Porno or regular ones) want to chop it off or just take too many hormones and have it go limp and never use it again.

So how many Tgirls keep their dick and like to use it?

And here's another question, how do girls like Danielle Foxxx and such have tits (non implant) from hormones yet have a large and working dick? Can one take hormones to grow breasts then stop taking them and have their dicks work or what exactly?

AGTFB

I will try to get you the statistics as to how many transwoman prefer
to remain non op, or pre op.

There are many pre op women who are very happy with their penis.
Further I would hazard a guess that either through choice, or financial
constraints most transwomen opt to remain pre op.

As to the use of female hormones rendering them less capable of using
their penises, yes there is a fine line between getting the feminine
attributes that both you and they desire, and maintaining their libido.

To obtain female characteristics and still be able to use her penis, a
woman really would need to have her hormonal intake carefully
monitored.

But AGTFB I wouldn't worry too much, there will always be transwomen
that will fill the criteria you are seeking.

However please be mindful, that for many transwomen the SRS is
the culmination of their lifelong dream, and for many others it will
be the last thing in the world they desire, or that would be appropriate
for them.

Stay the course, Ms. Right is out there.

8)

[lust4ts]

But a big up, for holding it down. :wink:

No problem your post's helped me to be more understanding about transgender people and there motivations apart from getting us guy’s off when we happen to be horny, so the least I can do is try to pass that knowledge on to people who also seem that is would be beneficial to. I just hope I done it adequately. P.S I hope you are not in to much pain after your seemingly harrowing trip to the dentist. :)

[TsVanessa69]

Actually think that way of thinking went out in 1976 cuz all my gf love havin dicks, even the girls with little ones! This is 2007, Packin Sisit's RULE!!!

[hwbs]

:popcorn

[elo]

Thank you so much Peggy for the infos. :D :claps

What would we do without you?

[peggygee]

Danke liebchen. :wink:

You are too kind.

[peggygee]

But a big up, for holding it down. :wink:

No problem your post's helped me to be more understanding about transgender people and there motivations apart from getting us guy’s off when we happen to be horny, so the least I can do is try to pass that knowledge on to people who also seem that is would be beneficial to. I just hope I done it adequately. P.S I hope you are not in to much pain after your seemingly harrowing trip to the dentist. :)

I am glad that in some small way my insights and views have
been useful to folks.

By the by, when I am across the pond maybe we can grab some
fish and chips. :wink:

[elo]

Danke liebchen. :wink:

You are too kind.Wusste nicht,dass du deutsch sprichst,Peggy.
Macht mich irgendwie an.rrrrrrrrrrrrrr LOL

[peggygee]

Actually think that way of thinking went out in 1976 cuz all my gf love havin dicks, even the girls with little ones! This is 2007, Packin Sisit's RULE!!!

Ms. Vanessa you are making my 'clitter go a twitter', you do I am
mildly bi, and that pose is giving me the vapors. :oops:

[peggygee]

Danke liebchen. :wink:

You are too kind.Wusste nicht,dass du deutsch sprichst,Peggy.
Macht mich irgendwie an.rrrrrrrrrrrrrr LOL

Ich spreche wenig.

Genug, in der muhe zu erhalten. :wink:

[uncutlove]

:evil: OK where do I start where's Peggy when we need her. Let me try, firstly you could try to be a bit more P C and maybe try refer to transgender people as something a bit less insulting than tranny im sure you'll have more luck connecting with them if you do try Transsexual, Tgirl, Transwomen, Transgirl any of these will do.

HungAngels ,Trannys, Tgirls, Shemales, Transsexuals and Ladyboys Forum Index -> General Discussion

[BrendaQG]

Ok. I have been on another board that is only for TS's. For mental and emotional support and such, in a series of bzzare arguments over exactly this. Arguements over just how crucial SRS is to being a TS. With the others saying that a non-op is not TS. etc. etc.:roll:

Basically there are a number of TS's who are obsessed with having thier penis chopped off. They will even tell you that they would chopp it off with a rusty cleaver rather than live with it. They are in the minority. They will speak of how "magical":roll: SRS makes them a "real woman" exactly like thier mother or their sister. Such a person you would never see posting here, for a variety of reasons. (No 1 being that they almost never pass let alone look good).

As for the rest of us, including most anyone you would find on hungangels...
If we want the op then we want it to be under conditions that will result in a realistic and functional result. Because the organs need to be able to perform their primary function, sex, urination, and getting off. I would say that people like me regard the more important part of being a transsexual mtf is living out a female life. Meaning what ever you are doing doing it as a female and being accepted as a female by those around us. That experience, living it, that is being a woman. Not the simple absence of a penis, which is something only the TS could possibly know about.

[elo]

Danke liebchen. :wink:

You are too kind.Wusste nicht,dass du deutsch sprichst,Peggy.
Macht mich irgendwie an.rrrrrrrrrrrrrr LOL

Ich spreche wenig.

Genug, in der muhe zu erhalten. :wink:Genug,in der muhe zu erhalten??? :? Could you say this sentence in english,please?

[gonkyy]

well I cant speak for all girls but I like mine and I wont be getting rid of it ! lol

Yeeehaa!!! :jerkoff :wink:

[peggygee]

Danke liebchen. :wink:

You are too kind.Wusste nicht,dass du deutsch sprichst,Peggy.
Macht mich irgendwie an.rrrrrrrrrrrrrr LOL

Ich spreche wenig.

Genug, in der muhe zu erhalten. :wink:Genug,in der muhe zu erhalten??? :? Could you say this sentence in english,please?

Genug - enough

in der muhe zu erhalten - to get in trouble.

I speak a little.

Enough to get in trouble. :)

[elo]

Ok. I have been on another board that is only for TS's. For mental and emotional support and such, in a series of bzzare arguments over exactly this. Arguements over just how crucial SRS is to being a TS. With the others saying that a non-op is not TS. etc. etc.:roll:

Basically there are a number of TS's who are obsessed with having thier penis chopped off. They will even tell you that they would chopp it off with a rusty cleaver rather than live with it. They are in the minority. They will speak of how "magical":roll: SRS makes them a "real woman" exactly like thier mother or their sister. Such a person you would never see posting here, for a variety of reasons. (No 1 being that they almost never pass let alone look good).

As for the rest of us, including most anyone you would find on hungangels...
If we want the op then we want it to be under conditions that will result in a realistic and functional result. Because the organs need to be able to perform their primary function, sex, urination, and getting off. I would say that people like me regard the more important part of being a transsexual mtf is living out a female life. Meaning what ever you are doing doing it as a female and being accepted as a female by those around us. That experience, living it, that is being a woman. Not the simple absence of a penis, which is something only the TS could possibly know about.Very thankfull for your post Brenda.I´m learning more and more.In my eyes a woman is a woman.No mater she has a vagina or a penis.Chopping off their penis won`t make them more a woman.But some need a srs to feel more feminine like peggy.For the case i`m misunderstood:Nothing bad about it.Whatever makes them happy.I love all woman.

You have a penis,Brenda.And i bet you a cute one. :wink:

[hwbs]

i have a friend that is content being pre-op...her friends on the other hand, are always trying to pressure her to go post...they are trying to make her feel like she is missing out..kinda like those peer pressure drug advertisements..people should just learn to respect peoples decisions and mind their business...just because the friends are happy as post doesnt mean that she will..she feels how she is presently , makes her special and unique..

[peggygee]

i have a friend that is content being pre-op...her friends on the other hand, are always trying to pressure her to go post...they are trying to make her feel like she is missing out..kinda like those peer pressure drug advertisements..people should just learn to respect peoples decisions and mind their business...just because the friends are happy as post doesnt mean that she will..she feels how she is presently , makes her special and unique..

Co-sign. 8)

Her personal happiness is what is truly important.

[elo]

To peggy:

to get in trouble-um in Schwierigkeiten zu geraten

[TsVanessa69]

Not a lesbo, thats shit makes me sick, I love men, and only men.

[Vala_TS]

Do they exist? Of course they do but how common is it? 10%, more, less what exactly?

Because it seems like every TG (Porno or regular ones) want to chop it off or just take too many hormones and have it go limp and never use it again.

So how many Tgirls keep their dick and like to use it?

And here's another question, how do girls like Danielle Foxxx and such have tits (non implant) from hormones yet have a large and working dick? Can one take hormones to grow breasts then stop taking them and have their dicks work or what exactly?

AGTFB

I will try to get you the statistics as to how many transwoman prefer
to remain non op, or pre op.

There are many pre op women who are very happy with their penis.
Further I would hazard a guess that either through choice, or financial
constraints most transwomen opt to remain pre op.

As to the use of female hormones rendering them less capable of using
their penises, yes there is a fine line between getting the feminine
attributes that both you and they desire, and maintaining their libido.

To obtain female characteristics and still be able to use her penis, a
woman really would need to have her hormonal intake carefully
monitored.

But AGTFB I wouldn't worry too much, there will always be transwomen
that will fill the criteria you are seeking.

However please be mindful, that for many transwomen the SRS is
the culmination of their lifelong dream, and for many others it will
be the last thing in the world they desire, or that would be appropriate
for them.

Stay the course, Ms. Right is out there.

8)

Thanks for the reply. I read that 60% of transexuals don't get SRS but I was looking for the amount that like to use their penis.

Sorry about using the incorrect words and I'll be more careful in the future. Wow, 4 pages! I'm surprised. I'm posting another thread with more exact queries next.

Thanks,
AGTFB

[djlindy5763]

Thank the powers that be that Farrah is happy with hers..... Can't imagine that beautiful woman without it.

[Beaner]

Actually think that way of thinking went out in 1976 cuz all my gf love havin dicks, even the girls with little ones! This is 2007, Packin Sisit's RULE!!!

Ms. Vanessa you are making my 'clitter go a twitter', you do I am
mildly bi, and that pose is giving me the vapors. :oops:

LOL :P

[werwt22]

:evil: OK where do I start where's Peggy when we need her. Let me try, firstly you could try to be a bit more P C and maybe try refer to transgender people as something a bit less insulting than tranny im sure you'll have more luck connecting with them if you do try Transsexual, Tgirl, Transwomen, Transgirl any of these will do.

HungAngels ,Trannys, Tgirls, Shemales, Transsexuals and Ladyboys Forum Index -> General Discussion

LOL Thank you. I was wondering if I was the only one that noticed that. I have no clue how the word tranny can be taken offensively anyway. It's nothing but a shorter version of the word transexual or transvestite. I mean really....what the hell different meaning does tranny have than transexual. Your talking about it being on the level of "cunt", "nigger", so on and so forth and those words have clear meanings so what does tranny mean that makes it so offensive?

[truplaya4real]

Do they exist? Of course they do but how common is it? 10%, more, less what exactly?

Because it seems like every TG (Porno or regular ones) want to chop it off or just take too many hormones and have it go limp and never use it again.

So how many Tgirls keep their dick and like to use it?

And here's another question, how do girls like Danielle Foxxx and such have tits (non implant) from hormones yet have a large and working dick? Can one take hormones to grow breasts then stop taking them and have their dicks work or what exactly?

AGTFB

I will try to get you the statistics as to how many transwoman prefer
to remain non op, or pre op.

There are many pre op women who are very happy with their penis.
Further I would hazard a guess that either through choice, or financial
constraints most transwomen opt to remain pre op.

As to the use of female hormones rendering them less capable of using
their penises, yes there is a fine line between getting the feminine
attributes that both you and they desire, and maintaining their libido.

To obtain female characteristics and still be able to use her penis, a
woman really would need to have her hormonal intake carefully
monitored.

But AGTFB I wouldn't worry too much, there will always be transwomen
that will fill the criteria you are seeking.

However please be mindful, that for many transwomen the SRS is
the culmination of their lifelong dream, and for many others it will
be the last thing in the world they desire, or that would be appropriate
for them.

Stay the course, Ms. Right is out there.

8)

Thanks for the reply. I read that 60% of transexuals don't get SRS but I was looking for the amount that like to use their penis.

Sorry about using the incorrect words and I'll be more careful in the future. Wow, 4 pages! I'm surprised. I'm posting another thread with more exact queries next.

Thanks,
AGTFB
Just get a dude if you want dick so bad. dang

[lust4ts]

LOL Thank you. I was wondering if I was the only one that noticed that. I have no clue how the word tranny can be taken offensively anyway. It's nothing but a shorter version of the word transexual or transvestite. I mean really....what the hell different meaning does tranny have than transexual. Your talking about it being on the level of "cunt", "nigger", so on and so forth and those words have clear meanings so what does tranny mean that makes it so offensive?


:roll: Duh I think Peggy has explained it pretty well and much better than I ever could, if you take the time to go back and read what she wrote maybe you would understand my point just a little bit. Once you have read the quotes passé, which I hasten to add are taken from transgender people who have had experience with being referred to as this term and happen to find it offensive, maybe then you see it in a different light. Secondly granted this site does use these captions but how often to find any of the mods here referring to the girls as trannys in there posts, probably never. Also where I come from (UK) if I was to tell someone I was dating a tranny they would assume I meant a transvestite and not a transgender person and that’s another reason why it is shit, it’s such a broad form of terminology for something that actually is not. Look of course it is going to be a matter of opinion some transgender people will find it offensive and others will not, but the fact that even a few do, most like indicates that there are probably better terms. :)

[lincspoacher]

I have to agree with lust4ts .. this board is precisely the place NOT to use that kind of terminology .. after all,we who regard TG women as something special ought to at least attempt to set an example to the less well informed .. I'm not a great fan of "PC" .. but I do believe in treating others with the respect they deserve & with the respect we would expect from other people.

Soap-box now back in cupboard under the stairs ... Lol.

Bye for now,

Poacher.

[werwt22]

LOL Thank you. I was wondering if I was the only one that noticed that. I have no clue how the word tranny can be taken offensively anyway. It's nothing but a shorter version of the word transexual or transvestite. I mean really....what the hell different meaning does tranny have than transexual. Your talking about it being on the level of "cunt", "nigger", so on and so forth and those words have clear meanings so what does tranny mean that makes it so offensive?


:roll: Duh I think Peggy has explained it pretty well and much better than I ever could, if you take the time to go back and read what she wrote maybe you would understand my point just a little bit. Once you have read the quotes passé, which I hasten to add are taken from transgender people who have had experience with being referred to as this term and happen to find it offensive, maybe then you see it in a different light. Secondly granted this site does use these captions but how often to find any of the mods here referring to the girls as trannys in there posts, probably never. Also where I come from (UK) if I was to tell someone I was dating a tranny they would assume I meant a transvestite and not a transgender person and that’s another reason why it is shit, it’s such a broad form of terminology for something that actually is not. Look of course it is going to be a matter of opinion some transgender people will find it offensive and others will not, but the fact that even a few do, most like indicates that there are probably better terms. :)

Your missing my point. OMG LOL @ seeing it being disrespectful b/c its the same name as shorter word for transmission. Words do have multiple meanings ya know. BTW I did read FYI. And nothing in those statements held any true meaning to me. People consider all kinds of words offensive like boy or girl as opposed to woman or man. I mean come on.....that holds no credence. Those are opinions of a select few (not literally). So what it's a broad term....it can mean transvestite or transexual bottom line. If I call you human will you take offense b/c I didnt specify your race? So where's the offense in that? Or are you gonna ask me to read again?

[lust4ts]

it can mean transvestite or transexual bottom line.

There you go, you've just answered your own question, being a transvestite and being a transgender person are two very different things and to a transgender person being called a transvestite would certainly be seen as an insult, and the word tranny that describes both and does not differ ate between the two is a perfect example of why the term is useless and outdated. A word that describes two things that are completely different is essentially pointless in modern society. Also you mention that it is not offensive, although it clearly is to the people who made those quotes and also a valued member here who also happens to be transgender (Peggy Gee). Also I find it some what amusing how you tried to broach this subject with me and not Peggy who has much more experience of the word, and stated many reasons why there are better terms, that you just happen to disagree with. Finally if you go back to my first point, if you will, you will see that I mentioned to AGTFB about connecting with transsexuals, well I have a little example for you of what I meant, OK here it goes you go to a club you meet a girl and suspect she is a TG what would be the best way to refer to her would you
: A say are you a transsexual
: B Are you transgender
: C Are you a tranny
So taking A,B and C as examples which one is going to go down best, certainly not C that is for sure. So to sum up it has been proven that some people find it offensive, and it has also been proven to be much too broad of a term to describe something that essentially is not.

[peggygee]

LOL Thank you. I was wondering if I was the only one that noticed that. I have no clue how the word tranny can be taken offensively anyway. It's nothing but a shorter version of the word transexual or transvestite. I mean really....what the hell different meaning does tranny have than transexual. Your talking about it being on the level of "cunt", "nigger", so on and so forth and those words have clear meanings so what does tranny mean that makes it so offensive?


:roll: Duh I think Peggy has explained it pretty well and much better than I ever could, if you take the time to go back and read what she wrote maybe you would understand my point just a little bit. Once you have read the quotes passé, which I hasten to add are taken from transgender people who have had experience with being referred to as this term and happen to find it offensive, maybe then you see it in a different light. Secondly granted this site does use these captions but how often to find any of the mods here referring to the girls as trannys in there posts, probably never. Also where I come from (UK) if I was to tell someone I was dating a tranny they would assume I meant a transvestite and not a transgender person and that’s another reason why it is shit, it’s such a broad form of terminology for something that actually is not. Look of course it is going to be a matter of opinion some transgender people will find it offensive and others will not, but the fact that even a few do, most like indicates that there are probably better terms. :)

Your missing my point. OMG LOL @ seeing it being disrespectful b/c its the same name as shorter word for transmission. Words do have multiple meanings ya know. BTW I did read FYI. And nothing in those statements held any true meaning to me. People consider all kinds of words offensive like boy or girl as opposed to woman or man. I mean come on.....that holds no credence. Those are opinions of a select few (not literally). So what it's a broad term....it can mean transvestite or transexual bottom line. If I call you human will you take offense b/c I didnt specify your race? So where's the offense in that? Or are you gonna ask me to read again?

Wertwt22, from my re-collection of various postings of yours,
I don't recall your being out of line, so I hope you do not feel I
am not bearing a grudge with this.

Thus please take this cartoon as just a humorous way to drive
home a point, cause you seem like a bright guy who doesn't need
to 'Get Hooked On Phonics:
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/hookedonphonics5x2.jpg

But if after reading what various groups of tranwomen prefer to
be called, and the reasoning behind it, then I must deduce that
something may be lost in the reading or interpretation.

Though it may sound like a semantical difference, or a political
correctness issue it goes deeper than that.

The transsexual women who have toiled and struggled very hard
to be the women they are, and who are women 24/7/365, will
often times take umbrage at being compared to someone who is
a woman only on the weekend or for a few hours.

Transsexuals are not transvestites, nor are they drag queens,
cross dressers or the other terms that the less informed populace
refers to them as.

That this is a term used on a porn website, along with the equally
derisive terms 'she-male and ladyboy', does not make it any more
palatable or correct.

You of course have the right to continue to use the term. It is your
First Amendment right to freedom of speech, but much like you
have the right to yell 'fire' in a theatre, it wouldn't be the prudent
thing to do.

Actually it may be in your best interest to not use the term, as 'lust4ts'
has stated when you first meet a women you would lead off with your
best foot, be on your best manners. Not go in calling her a bitch or ho,
or a tranny, or a shemale, etc.

Finally, I have pasted the links and statements once again for your
edification.

Here is a sampling of what other transgroups think of the
term:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tranny


tranny:An extremely offensive term for a transsexual man or
woman, or any of the transgendered community.

On the same level as "nigger", and "cunt" for most people,
though, like "dyke", some of the transgendered community
are trying to reclaim the word, without much success.

"So your girlfriend's a tranny?" "... Please don't say that...
She's a woman, just like you are."



http://www.translife.net/wiki/index.php/Offensive_Terminology

Tranny
Sometimes used to refer to transsexuals as well as
automotive transmissions, this term is frequently viewed
as degrading to many in the community. To many it's
viewed as reducing a person to the form of an object.

Unless you're a member of the community or you know
that the trans person is ok with the usage, try to avoid
this one too


http://www.trans-health.com/kara/respect.html


The term "tranny" is slang for transsexual, either as an adjective
or noun. Many feel that it is offensive, on par with words
like fag, dyke and nigger. As such, many feel that only
trans people themselves can reclaim it and use it. In some
cities, however, it only means cross-dresser and not
transsexual. Use it with much caution, if at all.


http://www.tsroadmap.com/start/tgterms.html

tranny: a term used by some TG women to describe other
TG women. Often considered offensive if used by a non-TG

[lincspoacher]

There is merit in both sides of the debate here .. I have heard Transgendered women referring to others as "Trannies",in fact I personally know one lady who refers to her feminine attire as "my Tranny rig".

Interestingly enough .. in my younger days,when Radios began to shrink in size & cheap Transistor radios were imported from Japan .. they were universally known,certainly here in UK as ... Trannies ... Lol.

In my experience,I've found it best to ask a Transgendered woman how she refers to herself .. that way you won't go far wrong or cause unwitting offence in what can be a bit of a semantic minefield.

Bye for now,

Poacher.

[eggbert]

I love sex, so if a vagina can give me as much pleasure as my penis, I look forward to having SRS. However, I've met some post-ops who were convinced that the grass had to be greener if they got it, but now don't feel that it was worth it.

Maybe this should be a new thread, but I'd be interested to know the statistics or hear opinions from girls who have had the surgery and how they feel about after a few years.

[peggygee]

I love sex, so if a vagina can give me as much pleasure as my penis, I look forward to having SRS. However, I've met some post-ops who were convinced that the grass had to be greener if they got it, but now don't feel that it was worth it.

Maybe this should be a new thread, but I'd be interested to know the statistics or hear opinions from girls who have had the surgery and how they feel about after a few years.

It might be better to start a new thread, as going into that
topic could muddy the water, and dilute both.
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/hijacked.jpg

[werwt22]

it can mean transvestite or transexual bottom line.

There you go, you've just answered your own question, being a transvestite and being a transgender person are two very different things and to a transgender person being called a transvestite would certainly be seen as an insult, and the word tranny that describes both and does not differ ate between the two is a perfect example of why the term is useless and outdated. A word that describes two things that are completely different is essentially pointless in modern society. Also you mention that it is not offensive, although it clearly is to the people who made those quotes and also a valued member here who also happens to be transgender (Peggy Gee). Also I find it some what amusing how you tried to broach this subject with me and not Peggy who has much more experience of the word, and stated many reasons why there are better terms, that you just happen to disagree with. Finally if you go back to my first point, if you will, you will see that I mentioned to AGTFB about connecting with transsexuals, well I have a little example for you of what I meant, OK here it goes you go to a club you meet a girl and suspect she is a TG what would be the best way to refer to her would you
: A say are you a transsexual
: B Are you transgender
: C Are you a tranny
So taking A,B and C as examples which one is going to go down best, certainly not C that is for sure. So to sum up it has been proven that some people find it offensive, and it has also been proven to be much too broad of a term to describe something that essentially is not.

I responded to you b/c you seemed to be the one that was pressed about the terminology the first guy was using. And my answer to your question would be D: None of the above b/c I dont label the women I talk to. If I'm attracted then I'm attracted and theres no need for me to label her.

[werwt22]

LOL Thank you. I was wondering if I was the only one that noticed that. I have no clue how the word tranny can be taken offensively anyway. It's nothing but a shorter version of the word transexual or transvestite. I mean really....what the hell different meaning does tranny have than transexual. Your talking about it being on the level of "cunt", "nigger", so on and so forth and those words have clear meanings so what does tranny mean that makes it so offensive?


:roll: Duh I think Peggy has explained it pretty well and much better than I ever could, if you take the time to go back and read what she wrote maybe you would understand my point just a little bit. Once you have read the quotes passé, which I hasten to add are taken from transgender people who have had experience with being referred to as this term and happen to find it offensive, maybe then you see it in a different light. Secondly granted this site does use these captions but how often to find any of the mods here referring to the girls as trannys in there posts, probably never. Also where I come from (UK) if I was to tell someone I was dating a tranny they would assume I meant a transvestite and not a transgender person and that’s another reason why it is shit, it’s such a broad form of terminology for something that actually is not. Look of course it is going to be a matter of opinion some transgender people will find it offensive and others will not, but the fact that even a few do, most like indicates that there are probably better terms. :)

Your missing my point. OMG LOL @ seeing it being disrespectful b/c its the same name as shorter word for transmission. Words do have multiple meanings ya know. BTW I did read FYI. And nothing in those statements held any true meaning to me. People consider all kinds of words offensive like boy or girl as opposed to woman or man. I mean come on.....that holds no credence. Those are opinions of a select few (not literally). So what it's a broad term....it can mean transvestite or transexual bottom line. If I call you human will you take offense b/c I didnt specify your race? So where's the offense in that? Or are you gonna ask me to read again?

Wertwt22, from my re-collection of various postings of yours,
I don't recall your being out of line, so I hope you do not feel I
am not bearing a grudge with this.

Thus please take this cartoon as just a humorous way to drive
home a point, cause you seem like a bright guy who doesn't need
to 'Get Hooked On Phonics:
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/hookedonphonics5x2.jpg

But if after reading what various groups of tranwomen prefer to
be called, and the reasoning behind it, then I must deduce that
something may be lost in the reading or interpretation.

Though it may sound like a semantical difference, or a political
correctness issue it goes deeper than that.

The transsexual women who have toiled and struggled very hard
to be the women they are, and who are women 24/7/365, will
often times take umbrage at being compared to someone who is
a woman only on the weekend or for a few hours.

Transsexuals are not transvestites, nor are they drag queens,
cross dressers or the other terms that the less informed populace
refers to them as.

That this is a term used on a porn website, along with the equally
derisive terms 'she-male and ladyboy', does not make it any more
palatable or correct.

You of course have the right to continue to use the term. It is your
First Amendment right to freedom of speech, but much like you
have the right to yell 'fire' in a theatre, it wouldn't be the prudent
thing to do.

Actually it may be in your best interest to not use the term, as 'lust4ts'
has stated when you first meet a women you would lead off with your
best foot, be on your best manners. Not go in calling her a bitch or ho,
or a tranny, or a shemale, etc.

Finally, I have pasted the links and statements once again for your
edification.

Here is a sampling of what other transgroups think of the
term:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tranny


tranny:An extremely offensive term for a transsexual man or
woman, or any of the transgendered community.

On the same level as "nigger", and "cunt" for most people,
though, like "dyke", some of the transgendered community
are trying to reclaim the word, without much success.

"So your girlfriend's a tranny?" "... Please don't say that...
She's a woman, just like you are."



http://www.translife.net/wiki/index.php/Offensive_Terminology

Tranny
Sometimes used to refer to transsexuals as well as
automotive transmissions, this term is frequently viewed
as degrading to many in the community. To many it's
viewed as reducing a person to the form of an object.

Unless you're a member of the community or you know
that the trans person is ok with the usage, try to avoid
this one too


http://www.trans-health.com/kara/respect.html


The term "tranny" is slang for transsexual, either as an adjective
or noun. Many feel that it is offensive, on par with words
like fag, dyke and nigger. As such, many feel that only
trans people themselves can reclaim it and use it. In some
cities, however, it only means cross-dresser and not
transsexual. Use it with much caution, if at all.


http://www.tsroadmap.com/start/tgterms.html

tranny: a term used by some TG women to describe other
TG women. Often considered offensive if used by a non-TG

LOL That was pretty funny. I dont use the term myself personally. I was just saying I didnt see the harm. You see it as being harmful or disrespectful being labeled the same as transvestite but thats not what I meant when I said it being used as a broad term. I think I made a very nice and clear example with the whole "Human" thing. Secondly how can anything harmful be derived from a shorter version of the same word? As far as that other example, "So your girlfriends a tranny?", is no different than someone sayin, "So your boyfriends black?" Nothing wrong with being black.....it's just the way they used the term that made the statement offensive not the word. =D

[peggygee]

I love sex, so if a vagina can give me as much pleasure as my penis, I look forward to having SRS. However, I've met some post-ops who were convinced that the grass had to be greener if they got it, but now don't feel that it was worth it.




I'm not even talking about physical pleasure necessarily. I'm talking about validation too. Once you're post-op, you're going to pretty much be like any other female, and that's a mindfuck for some TS. Unfortunately tho', none of us will ever really know for certain until it's done and over with, and we're living that way. But that's the nature of our lives. None of us had any guarantees, and most us knew from our earliest memories that we were up against something pretty big.

I've known many more pre-ops than post-ops, so maybe I'm wrong; but I get the impression that many post-ops are going through a midlife crisis and rushing into srs. They endlessly talk about how happy they are because of it, and overzealously pat each other on the back for getting it. But I suspect that part of that is really a bluff. Because, on some level, 'misery loves company'. Also, many of these older post-ops seem to be incapable of passing, so it has to make you wonder. Buying a Taiwanese pussy with your retirement money will not guarantee you your womanhood. There's no such shortcut to it.

Anyhoo, these are a few of the reasons that I'm not in a big hurry to get srs. I know that I may catch shit for having said this, but 'oh well'. I don't pretend to have all the answers. Like so many of us, I had to diagnose myself before I even knew what a TS was. And, for that matter, this is still somewhat of an evolving way to live your life.


To state the obvious, having sex with a vagina, is very different
than having had sex with a penis. Particulary so if a person enjoys
using their penis.

Having had both, and loving sex as much if not more than the next
person, I will attest that this 'Thai' poonany works. :oops:

If you have had a penis, and then have SRS, you find that the orgasms
are quite different, some women miss having an erection, some will
miss ejaculation, and some will miss the act of penetration.

I think it really depends on how you feel about your penis and using
it. For me it was quite uncomfortable physically and psychologically.

After SRS, and being just another broad in a sea of broads, was cool
as I have other qualities that seperate me from the pack, as we all
have something that makes as unique.

Solving all of my problems, far from it. For me once I solve a problem
or achieve a goal, I will shortly thereafter start another project, or find
another problem to fix.

Though when you are in conflict with your body at such a fundamental
level it may difficult to work on other complex problems. Having SRS
freed up alot of my brain to work on other crap.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/needs1.gif

[peggygee]

With men that I'm not really feeling it for, I prefer to receive oral or top. But over time, I've come to realize that I equate topping with dominating them. I know that some may not be able to relate to that, but that's how it works for me. It becomes a power-trip that gets me very horny, and gives me the energy to slam an asshole raw. :-D

But with someone I feel is a little special, hands down I prefer to bottom. This is the closest I get to submitting, and letting someone make love to me. And, actually, I get much more overall pleasure from that. Now if the physical pleasure of my penis could be combined with the emotional satisfaction of having a man make love to me, I suspect that I'd never look back. My instincts say that this will eventually be right for me, but I'm not ready to cross that bridge.

I can definetely understand that. Being the receiving partner
makes you more vulnerable, both physically and psychcologically.

As the receptor, you may be in a physically submissive position.
Also being the receptor may be seen by society as the sterotypical
feminine role, which is passive.

If a women is working or with someone that she doesn't have a great
deal of trust, it may be safer both for her physical safety as well as not
getting too emotionally involved with the other person.

Men may like to bottom or be dominated as they now may relinquish
control, and responsibility, as well as it being physically pleasing to
some of them.

And yeah, making love with someone you really care about is great
when it comes into our lifes.

It's the shiznit. :peanutbutter

[drock]

well I cant speak for all girls but I like mine and I wont be getting rid of it ! lol

good for you!

[drock]

I love sex, so if a vagina can give me as much pleasure as my penis, I look forward to having SRS. However, I've met some post-ops who were convinced that the grass had to be greener if they got it, but now don't feel that it was worth it.

Maybe this should be a new thread, but I'd be interested to know the statistics or hear opinions from girls who have had the surgery and how they feel about after a few years.

It might be better to start a new thread, as going into that
topic could muddy the water, and dilute both.
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/hijacked.jpg

So do you really get any pleasure out of sex now that you're been there and done that peggy?

[peggygee]

I love sex, so if a vagina can give me as much pleasure as my penis, I look forward to having SRS. However, I've met some post-ops who were convinced that the grass had to be greener if they got it, but now don't feel that it was worth it.

Maybe this should be a new thread, but I'd be interested to know the statistics or hear opinions from girls who have had the surgery and how they feel about after a few years.

It might be better to start a new thread, as going into that
topic could muddy the water, and dilute both.
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/hijacked.jpg

So do you really get any pleasure out of sex now that you're been there and done that peggy?


http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/Icamecrop3x2.jpg

If you know me, you know there isn't going to be a simple answer. :smh

And I will have to get back to you on the statistical averages for post op
women.

But I can attempt to give you the answer, but as per my usual, it's
complicated.

If I am masturbating I may have either a vaginal or clitoral orgasm.
What's the difference you ask?

The difference between a "clitoral" and a "vaginal" orgasm is where
you are being stimulated to achieve orgasm, not where you feel
the orgasm..

Thus if I or someone else is fucking me vaginally, without much clitoral
stimulation I may come that way.

If while I am fucking, or if oral sex is being performed on me and
attention is being paid to my clitoris I may reach orgasm that way.

Also something interesting that happens to me is that I tend to have a
fairly high number of wet dreams, and may have an orgasm while I am
sleeping. Pre and post op I have had nocturnal emissions.

Additionally if properly stimulated I may be able to have a second or
third orgasm, in a fairly short period of time, though the latter ones will
not be as strong as the first one.

As with many women I am far more apt to come via masturbation, as I
know what gets me off. Though if my partner knows my body, and he's a
'man with a slow hand' he will be able to bring me to orgasm.

Do I have orgasm every time I have sex?

No.

I would say about 85% - 90% through masturbation, and perhaps
60% - 70% with a partner, though the average improves as my partner
knows my needs. Time of day, if I am fatiqued, etc are also variables.

Though 99.9% of the times, the journey is as great as the destination.

[drock]

Thanks Peggy, that does sound a bit complex; I've heard that a lot of TS who are post ops don't enjoy sex, but it's good to actually hear it from a subject matter expet. :lol: 8)

[peggygee]

Thanks Peggy, that does sound a bit complex;

I've heard that a lot of TS who are post ops don't enjoy sex, but it's good to actually hear it from a subject matter expet. :lol: 8)


I enjoy sex, a great deal. :wink:

However, I don't do casual sex.
But if I am with someone I
care about, we be breaking
furniture, calling in sick or
late to work.

Don't be fooled by my prim and
proper demeanor, there's a lotta
freak in me :twisted:

[drock]

Thanks Peggy, that does sound a bit complex;

I've heard that a lot of TS who are post ops don't enjoy sex, but it's good to actually hear it from a subject matter expet. :lol: 8)


I enjoy sex, a great deal. :wink:

However, I don't do casual sex.
But if I am with someone I
care about, we be breaking
furniture, calling in sick or
late to work.

Don't be fooled by my prim and
proper demeanor, there's a lotta
freak in me :twisted:

So you can get down like that! CTFU I likes I would have never suspected that you would be a freak in the bedroom. :lol:

[peggygee]

Thanks Peggy, that does sound a bit complex;

I've heard that a lot of TS who are post ops don't enjoy sex, but it's good to actually hear it from a subject matter expet. :lol: 8)


I enjoy sex, a great deal. :wink:

However, I don't do casual sex.
But if I am with someone I
care about, we be breaking
furniture, calling in sick or
late to work.

Don't be fooled by my prim and
proper demeanor, there's a lotta
freak in me :twisted:

So you can get down like that! CTFU I likes I would have never suspected that you would be a freak in the bedroom. :lol:

http://4everchristina.bravehost.com/text/Dirty.html

Excerpted from;
Aguilera, Christina > Aint No Other Man (2006) > Still Dirrty

"Still Dirrty"

Cause I still got that nasty in me

Still got that dirrty degree (still got it)

And if you want some more sexy

Still got that freak in me

They saying I'm looking like a lady

They say that love has gone and changed me

But don't be fooled by everything you see

Gotta let the naughty in me free

:wink:

[TsVanessa69]

I have a nice size cock, and I LOVE it! I love getting my cock sucked and I do enjoy topping too! Hormones do not give you big breast, implants or injected silicone do! I don't take hormones as I should, as I am happy with my body shape after just silicone injections, I had a very small waist and back naturally so the silicone shaped me real good
38D-30-43. and I was always with thin arms and legs, so I didn't need hormones to break down muscles, I never had any, thank God!. I removed my beard with electrolysis, so don't need hormones to work on that either. Everybodys bbody structure is different, so how much hormone u "NEED" varies. My cock never shrunk or stopped working when I take hormones, just when I cum its clear. But yes I love my cock! I am transitioned, I don't want a srs. my cock makes me special, my cock makes me and many guys happy, my cock makes me money!

[TsVanessa69]

I love sex, so if a vagina can give me as much pleasure as my penis, I look forward to having SRS. However, I've met some post-ops who were convinced that the grass had to be greener if they got it, but now don't feel that it was worth it.
Amen sista, I know a few girls who say in a room full of people that its great, but in private, they tell the truth. I actually don't see a need for a vagina, my penis works just fine and I am still a woman, so if it ain't broke, don't fix it
:P

[TsVanessa69]

Not a lesbo, thats shit makes me sick, I love men, and only men.:shock: That's pretty harsh because, before you transitioned, I assume that you were essentially regarded as a gay male.
I have never liked woman ever in life, no matter what my outer appearance was, I never found the female sexually attractive.