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White_Male_Canada
02-10-2007, 01:44 AM
Big set-up by Levin and his fellow travellers at WaPo. The "journalists" at the Washington Post took Levin at his word,lock, stock and barrell. Did they even read the report? Obviously not since WaPo had to print a correction. Biased dominant media regurgitating Democrat Levin`s lies.
The big scoop was that the Pentagon itself had concluded that Feith floated bogus intel on the links between Iraq and AQ and suggested that he’d done so at Bush/Cheney’s behest. Except the Pentagon didn’t conclude that. Radical leftist Democrat Carl Levin did. 8) Busted! 8)
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Correction to This Article

A Feb. 9 front-page article about the Pentagon inspector general's report regarding the office of former undersecretary of defense Douglas J. Feith incorrectly attributed quotations to that report. References to Feith's office producing "reporting of dubious quality or reliability" and that the office "was predisposed to finding a significant relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda" were from a report issued by Sen. Carl Levin(D-Mich.) in Oct. 2004.

Similarly, the quotes stating that Feith's office drew on "both reliable and unreliable reporting" to produce a link between al-Qaeda and Iraq "that was much stronger than that assessed by the IC [Intelligence Community] and more in accord with the policy views of senior officials in the Administration" were also from Levin's report.
The article also stated that the intelligence provided by Feith's office supported the political views of senior administration officials, a conclusion that the inspector general's report did not draw.

The two reports employ similar language to characterize the activities of Feith's office: Levin's report refers to an "alternative intelligence assessment process" developed in that office, while the inspector general's report states that the office "developed, produced, and then disseminated alternative intelligence assessments on the Iraq and al Qaida relationship, which included some conclusions that were inconsistent with the consensus of the Intelligence Community, to senior decision-makers." The inspector general's report further states that Feith's briefing to the White House in 2002 "undercuts the Intelligence Community" and "did draw conclusions that were not fully supported by the available intelligence."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/08/AR2007020802387.html

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And now, the rest of the story.

The IG’s report concludes that a Pentagon unit which scrubbed existing intelligence about Iraq’s terror ties under the leadership of Doug Feith, then-Undersecretary for Policy, did not mislead Congress. It further finds that neither Feith nor any other Defense officials engaged in wrong-doing. Nevertheless, acting Inspector General Thomas F. Gimble huffs and puffs and contends that Feith’s unit still behaved “inappropriately.”

Why? Back in 2002, none of the 16 different intelligence agencies was willing to do a detailed report on the question of ties between Saddam’s regime and Al Queda. The CIA-after much prodding-finally put out a small report, but it was vague because the United States didn’t have a single spy in Iraq for the previous four years (1998-2002). Having just been attacked by Al Queda, the Bush Administration and components of it wanted to know if there was a serious relationship between Iraq and Al Queda, but no one wanted to give them one. So, in 2002 the Pentagon (where even their own intelligence agencies were refusing to investigate the matter) put together a group called the Office of Special Plans.

This office went around to the different intelligence agencies, looked at whatever intelligence reporting they had on the subject (remember, all 16 intelligence agencies worked alone at this point in American history. They did not normally share information). Then this Office of Special Plans found a bunch of reports that seemed scary. They presented these scary reports to the CIA and others, who refused to stand by any assessment because so little intelligence had been gathered.


Let’s leave aside the innumerable known connections between Saddam and Islamic terror—the harbored jihadists; the meetings between top al Qaeda and Iraqi intelligence officials; the $300,000 cash pay-off to Ayman Zawahiri in 1998; the Iraqi intelligence operative who accompanied a jihadist to Pakistan in 1998 to explore the possibility of bombing American and British targets; the Clinton administration’s 1998 bombing of a Sudanese pharmaceutical factory believed to be a WMD venture involving Iraq and al Qaeda; the Clinton administration’s conviction that Iraq offered bin Laden safe-harbor; the presence of an Iraqi intelligence operative at a 2000 Kuala Lampur meeting of terrorists later involved in the U.S.S. Cole and 9/11 attacks, etc., etc., etc.


In any event, what was so “inappropriate”? The Defense Department did not take the IG’s diagnosis lying down. As the NYTimes notes:

"The Pentagon’s rebuttal vehemently rejected the report’s contention that there was “inappropriate” use of intelligence by Pentagon civilians and said the effort to identify links between Saddam Hussein’s government and Al Qaeda was done at the direction of Mr. Wolfowitz, who was deputy defense secretary at the time. Describing the work as a “fresh, critical look” at intelligence agency conclusions about Al Qaeda and Iraq, the Pentagon rebuttal said, “It is somewhat difficult to understand how activities that admittedly were lawful and authorized (in this case by either the secretary of defense or the deputy secretary of defense) could nevertheless be characterized as ‘inappropriate.’”

Feith and Wolfowitz have served as targets for Democrats for years, and now that they have returned to power, they want to use whatever they can to finish them politically. Carl Levin and Jay Rockefeller can't wait to start holding hearings on the matter, even though the IG explicitly states that no laws were broken and the effort was properly revealed to Congress.

http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/02/09/dod-inspector-general-report-d/#morehttp://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZjY5ZWFkNjQ1YzBiNTE0NmM4MjZmN2QxMjYyMDg5ZGQ=

North_of_60
02-10-2007, 03:30 AM
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

White_Male_Canada
02-10-2007, 04:40 AM
"PRESIDENT BUSH was right to approve the declassification of parts of a National Intelligence Estimate about Iraq three years ago in order to make clear why he had believed that Saddam Hussein was seeking nuclear weapons…The material that Mr. Bush ordered declassified established, as have several subsequent investigations, that Mr. Wilson was the one guilty of twisting the truth. In fact, his report supported the conclusion that Iraq had sought uranium..."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/08/AR2006040800895.html

Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 –“ Declares that it should be the policy of the United States to seek to remove the Saddam Hussein regime from power in Iraq and to replace it with a democratic government.”


Anybody with half a brain couldn't have helped notice the switch away from the "Weapons of Mass Destruction" excuse for invading Iraq

False. That was NOT the primary reason even though everyone agreed Saddam had them,used them and would most likely do so again in the future. Read the text of the President`s speech, he did not speak only about WMD and terrorism : http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/09/20020912-1.html

I could quote dozens of democrats who came to the same conclusion as Ted or Bill did:

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998



to the "Hussein was in cahoots with Bin-Laden" excuse.

No excuses, unrebutted fact , Iraqi Baathist involvement with jihadist and Bin Ladenist groups from Sudan to Afghanistan to Western Asia:

Saddam's Philippines
Terror Connection
And other revelations from the Iraqi regime files.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/011/990ieqmb.asp

Iraq Document CMPC-2003-001488: “. Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban Group in Afghanistan were in touch with the Iraqis and that group of the Talibans and Osama Bin Laden had visited Iraq.”

Iraq document ISGZ-2004-009247 OBL/Saddam- details Uday himself making arrangements with the Sudanese government in December 1994. Osama met directly with the General Director of the IIS. Even after he left the Sudan, the Sudanese continued to act as a conduit between Osama and Iraq, at the behest of Saddam Hussein -- and the IIS states that they were actively working to connect to Osama again after he landed in Afghanistan.

Document CMPC-2003-015588 - Saddam Hussein regime agreed to allow the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) to stage suicide operations within Iraq in the opening days of the American invasion.


Don't you even care about the mess Iraq is in? As many Iraqi's are dying each month as American's died on 9/11; and your posting clap-trap like this. Or don't Iraq's count?

Iraqi`s are killing Iraqis. They`ve been given freedom and if they choose to squander it then that will be unfortunate. The militias must be disarmed in Iraq and that nut Al-Sadr must be eliminated from the political scene.



All smacks of guilty people looking for excuses to cover their sorry asses when their judgement day comes. You should be ashamed of yourself! I hope you rot in that Christian hell your most likely so afraid of.

Hilarious, the Washington Post, NY Times, SF Gate, etc,etc,have been caught red-handed disseminating propaganda direct from the mouth of that radical leftists Carl Levin and all you`re capable of is a rant.

guyone
02-10-2007, 06:38 AM
uh oh... :popcorn

White_Male_Canada
02-10-2007, 07:26 PM
uh oh... :popcorn

Deja Vu all over again eh Guy ?

What`s this, the 4th notch on my gunbelt here at HA that I`ve driven to madness ? Frankly, I`ve lost count but it is interesting to see them go off and stalk me on the net and come back with that sort of bogus nonsense. 8)

guyone
02-10-2007, 07:39 PM
"You'd think they'd learn by now, partner!"

White_Male_Canada
02-10-2007, 07:57 PM
"You'd think they'd learn by now, partner!"

It is a mistake to think liberals first believe what they do and then think conservatives are stupid for disagreeing. The process works in reverse. Their disdain for ordinary people with traditional values is so overwhelming that whatever such people believe is by definition backward. They form their views by listening to the ignoramuses and then positing the opposite. Views forged in the crucible of a God-centered consciousness are inherently illegitimate.

It is more than a strategy to call their opponents stupid. It is not just a way to cover up the weakness of their arguments. Identifying the other side as obtuse is itself the sine qua non of their worldview. Individual applications of that premise are an auxiliary phenomenon. If I assume your point must be wrong because I know you to be a Neanderthal, a good dialogue will never evolve.

guyone
02-10-2007, 11:01 PM
What's an LTR?

chefmike
02-11-2007, 01:30 AM
:roll: :arrow:

guyone
02-11-2007, 05:57 AM
Shooting a missile at an ex president is an act of war. Just imagine if some kook fired a missile at Bolshevik Party Headquarters wouldn't you be angry?