Bob's T-girls

[cream4u]

Can someone tell me about the website? Videos mostly hardcore or softcore, girls top or bottom? Good picture sets?

Thanks

[SidChromeAU]

A reasonable site. The girls are almost always nice - from my pov, anyway. Personally, I think that the grooby family of sites offer the best value for money (etc), but of these, you really have to pick the one that suits your predilections. Remember, this is very subjective, being based on my tastes: Braz T's is the best of the lot, the girls almost always being feminine, followed very closely by Frank's, which is excellent - again, the girls are almost always v. passable. As an aside, he sometimes fucks up the code, making some updates a little hard to access for a day or two (if you know anything at all about this area, it's easy enough to work around) - but I gather he frequently has to post his updates 'on the run' from public places, so it's understandable. Lots of video on both sites, but fairly formulaic at times, I feel. Yum is, again, great value for money, but not always to my tatse. Seanchai finds, and posts, some stunning girls - but also some that are just too close to tv rather than ts in this stage of their transformation. For those that are into trainees, of course, this is excellent - but it's not for me, and too many of the girls can be a little unfeminine for me. Ladyboy 2 has improved out of sight, with most of the girls being very passable (although the video is normally crap, or at least ordinary). Many Asian T sites seem to think that because even Asian men are fairly lightly built, any katooey wannabe in a wig and some cheap girls panties can be posted as a TS - in the past, this seems to have been a problem at L2, but not for a long time. Black T's is not really for me. There are some stunning girls posted there, but many are just muscular black men in lingerie. My feeling is that many are there almost to meet quota - they certainly aren't very passable. Perhaps because black men seem, sometimes, to have such lean musculature, those who choose to transform can really struggle to pull it off. I'm not saying that there aren't some spectacular black girls around, but many of those on Black T's just seem to be men in drag (a similar critique of many of the white girls on Yum can be levelled - both ethnic groups, as a whole, seem to struggle against Latins and Asians - but individually...!) Perhaps Seanchai should consider setting up a TV/early stages site to accomodate some of the girls on Yum and Black T's.
By now, you're asking 'Why is he addressing Grooby sites - I specifically asked about Bob's?" Purely to let you know where I stand, mate. We're all biased, now you know where mine lies. Bob's, to me, always has feminine girls. The sets, however, can be too brief and sometimes lack imagination (personally, I think Frank is one of the most imaginative lensmen around). The video, when posted, is of good quality, and tends to be of the better girls. Not enough video is ever posted (one or two girls an update at best). Updates are generally on time, which is not always true of other, smaller, T sites. Overall: worth a look.
Bear in mind: I'm not a member of all Grooby sites (just the ones I like), but friends are of those that I'm not - so I have a good idea of what's going on at these. I periodically join Bob's, but the site can't demand my 'full-time' membership.
Remember - this is all based purely on my tastes, but I hope it helps.

[GroobySteven]

Thanks for the pretty accurate assessments of my sites Sid.
Just one point, we'd never put models in just to fill a quota but if we've shot them we've got to get them in somewhere. The nature of the business is that;
a) sometimes we have to shoot models that might not necessarily be the best...this is for numerous reasons, including to get the best, we need to shoot her friend, turning up to shoots and models looking completely different, different photographers having different tastes and so forth. It would be nice to be in control and to pick and choose each and every model and scenario but you know what, these girls are in charge - just don't let them ever find out or we're all screwed.
b) as you pointed out Yum has "trainee" (hate that word - how about beginners), if it wasn't for Yum then some of these "beginners" may never make it to be the stars they are today. We take a risk on some of our models - some of the "beginners have ended up being some of the most popular models. I'd say about 50-60% of Yum are not of the superstar quality models of sites like Bob's Tgirls, or Franks-Tgirlworld (which shoots the cream of Grooby girls) but the fact we put around 35 models a month means that there are still plenty for those who like the super quality type shemales, often to be unfound elsewhere.

Thanks again -

[GroobySteven]

More new girls...

[Ecstatic]

Hey Seanchai, I though Kerry or Bush was an extremely simplistic either/or (and a totally true one--Go Kerry!), but superstar or beginner? For these girls (the recent photos), I'd have to say somewhere in between. None of these girls is a "beginner", but none is yet a "superstar" either (though Estelle comes close--she has a really nice, feminine, sexy, alluring look which approaches the superstar class). When I think superstar, I think Vicki, Joanna, Gia, Allanah....mind you, not all are necessarily my type (I favor Joanna's look over Allanah's personally), but all are undeniable superstars, well known in the industry (one quality necessary by definition), beautiful and well versed in their beauty, who present themselves very well.

As to Bob's, I agree with SidChromeAU that it's a site I often rejoin, featuring good photography and the creme-d'la-creme of shemale models and Bob's very personal commentary (something Frank also offers, though I think I like Domy's commentary on Brazilian Transsexuals best of all). Bob obviously cares about the transgender community and the girls as individuals, and isn't just out to make a quick buck (though I'm sure he likes to collect the fees). As a matter of fact, Bob's was once a member of the Grooby sites as I recall, splitting off to go his own way a few years back (amicably as I recall--Seanchai, correct me if I'm wrong).

I think Bob's is equal to the best of Grooby's sites (which for me are Brazilian TS and Frank's), and that all of these sites offer better quality and a deeper commitment to the ts community than many other sites, which seem to only be in it for the money (I won't name names, but one site which always challenges Shemale Yum as the oldest and biggest site is one of them if you know who I mean). Other sites I really like include Allanah's Shemale Exotica, Vicki Richter's, Asian-TS, and Exotic T-girls.

[SidChromeAU]

Seanchai, I fully agree with you.
As I said, my personal tastes dictate which of your sites I most enjoy, but they all have definite high points! I daresay that another problem would be some girls just not photographing well - sometimes a girl's (GG or TG) sexiness isn't just about her looks, it's about her attitude and demeanour, which doesn't always translate to a photograph (hard to photograph vivaciousness, although sometimes it comes across a bit).
I do take your point about beginners, too (BTW, I don't like the term 'trainee', but it seems to be almost the accepted form here, unfortunately). A perfect case in point - I feel - is GiWon. In the beginning, she didn't look too flash, but it was interesting to follow her growth as a woman. The last time I saw shots of her (some time ago - what happened to her, I wonder), she was looking fine. Certainly, many of the beginners on Yum show enormous potential, and some even realise it.
With the number of girls featured on Yum each month, it's easy enough to find enough to like. Also, these girls must have to start somewhere, and at least on a big site like Yum they get seen - rather than sink into obscurity on one of the other many small, nth-rate sites out there.

BTW - cream4u, I got so carried away singing the praises of the grooby family (essentially what I did, anyway), that I didn't fully address your question: Bob's is mainly a softcore site - very few HC shoots. Most of the videos (few as they are) do, however, have a cumshot. The girls are generally shot in a fairly protfolio-type style - they look good (sometimes great), but are generally solo.

[GroobySteven]

Yes Bob started as a photographer for Yum when he had a "real day job" and snapped some of the best girls in the industry like Kimberly, Vo. Shawna, Gina and Geneva, etc - even though some of those girls were established on video this was their first shoots for the internet. When he started his website it was as a partnership with our sites but naturally things grow and things change and it was for the best that he went his own way and direction. We're still friends and stay in touch regularly as well as help each other out when we can.
Allanah's site is excellent - I haven't been on Vicki's I don't think and if I had to join another ladyboy site it would be Asian-TS whom I'm friendly with also.
So many sites don't have any soul. We might not always be the slickest or the most professional but we deliver the goods and you know our webmasters are into it!
seanchai

[Realgirls4me]

Great reviews there, Sid. You presented a lot. I use to belong to Planet-Shemale com, but that was so long ago, I couldn't begin to tell you how it would rank with those aforementioned sites. It was my first exposure to Lilienne Li and Barbie Woods.
I don't belong to any site right now, instead preferring to spend my money on DVDs. e.g., I just purchased Transsexual Beauty Queens 15 and 18 a few minutes ago. It will be my first view of Joanna Jett outside of this forum, a return shot of Nikki(Dayna), and a double shot of one of my all time favorites, the aforementioned Barbie Woods, who is back escorting in the Los Angeles Eros site under "Brittany". I should drive up there and ... :)

Sites are nice, but DVDs and video tapes are better imho. :)

[SidChromeAU]

Sites are nice, but DVDs and video tapes are better imho. :)
Can't argue as to the value (?) of DVD and video, but the problem I have there is finding room for them all! One distributor here sells VHS for less than AUD$10 each in bulk (DVDs also cheap), and have so many of the bloody things that I struggle to find homes for them. Another problem is that I haven't even watched the great majority of them: I buy them and put them away to get to at some later date, then never have the time due to work committments. One problem here can be availabilty - not all titles are on the Australian market, but that is rapidly improving. At least with sites you can just 'drop in' when time permits - and they are a good way of seeing new girls first. Also, I don't always want to see some blokes spotty arse bouncing around (who is that bloody bald guy with the goatee? I'd like his job, but I'm sick of seeing him - and, perhaps, sick with envy?), and photosets of solo girls abound.
I, too, was a member of Planet Shemale at one stage. A reasonable site, but not in the same league as Grooby sites - or Bob's - and I gather that it hasn't been updated for over a year now. I'd hate to be a paying customer now! A friend who is a member of Giselle's site says that hasn't been updated for months, either (he's about to cancel). That must be a big problem for girls like Allanah and Vicki, who I gather run very good sites - other girl-run sites must cast them all into some disrepute. Another friend who is a member of Joanna's site is getting a little tired of her tardiness as well: updates are always late, if only by a week or so, and apologies are aways forthcoming but not really meaningful. Seems indicative of a degree of contempt towards members.
BTW - Nicki is certainly one of the black T's who I would rate as outstanding!

[Ecstatic]

So many sites don't have any soul. We might not always be the slickest or the most professional but we deliver the goods and you know our webmasters are into it!That's it, Seanchai. Soul. Most sites, whether they offer high quality or not, original material or recycled material, lack soul. Regardless of how much I like one of the Grooby sites, I think each one has its own soul and character, and that alone makes them more attractive to me. Allanah's site probably has more soul and unique character than any other superstar girl site out there, with great unique features (like the weekly comic--what a gas). Quality, originality, soul, character: these are the qualities I look for.

...if I had to join another ladyboy site it would be Asian-TS whom I'm friendly with also.Asian-TS is the only other Oriental TS site which I think rivals Ladyboy-Ladyboy; I rejoin each site periodically. I love Asian, and especially Thai, girls, and these two sites offer the best of these.

Sites are nice, but DVDs and video tapes are better imho. :)Not for me. I enjoy a good vid now and then, but they actually get repetitive and tiresome faster for me than well-shot photos. Part of it is the quality of the image; part is the repetitive nature of the video scenes; part is why watch someone else get laid when I could get laid myself?

Another friend who is a member of Joanna's site is getting a little tired of her tardiness as well: updates are always late, if only by a week or so, and apologies are aways forthcoming but not really meaningful. Seems indicative of a degree of contempt towards members.
BTW - Nicki is certainly one of the black T's who I would rate as outstanding!In Joanna's case I suspect it's more to do with her "Jet Set" personality, where she's always on the go, somewhere around the world, not sitting at home or in an office taking care of business as it were. My criticism of her site would go to the web design itself: the layout of gallery preview pages, the way each gallery pops up a new window which I have to resize when it launches, the way each thumbnail opens a new window if I don't want to look at all the photos but just click on those of interest. However, I could critique all these sites; I've been a professional webmaster (in the software and other fields, not this one!) for eight years, so I have a solid background to do so, but that would be another, very involved thread and out of place here. Suffice to say none are perfect, but some work more smoothly than others imho.

One thing I'd like to see more on my favorite sites is role playing or scenario enactment; over at Brazilian TS Domy often presents some sets which create a fantasy acted out (like the guy conjuring a genie who turns out to be Domy), but the only site which offers quality photos featuring fantasy scenes that comes to mind is Wired Shemales: nurses, pirates, bandits, goddesses, cops, waitresses...fun stuff. When you get down to it, the action is all the same, but just the addition of some simple costuming to set a scene helps. Or just choosing an interesting, different location for a shoot: Frank does this nicely, setting the scene in a construction site with the girl dressed as a carpenter for instance.

[kesey]

All of the sites you have mentioned are GREAT. LB2 offers great quality in asian lbs, Frank's offers a GREAT assortment, ASIAN-TS is good but the photography has suffered since Pat does not do all the pics and YUM offers a good update on newer lbs on the scene. Bob offers a more model-esque lb...very nice! I would like to throw in two more sites that have the best photography and the best on the scene lbs without a doubt-Ladyboy-asia and Just ladyboy. Give the 2 sites a check...you all will find that these 2 sites are the best around!! :D

[kesey]

Here are some pics from the 2 sites I mentined...VERY good if you like asian lbs!!