YOU SUGAR DADDYS MAKE ME SICK...YOUR NOT A REAL MAN

[GroobySteven]

I'd say yout 99.9% is a tad on the high side and you know what it's not just trannys - although you might know this and are just stating it as it's on a tranny post board. There are loads of real girls working in escort and stripping who are on to the "sugar daddy" thing, way more than the tranny girls.
Most girls who are escorts/prositutes without any other sort of income, aspirations or directions - do so because they are lazy.
I shot two models today - one genuinely works in McDonalds of Hawaii as well as a 7-11 out here and done the shoot because she wanted the money and wanted to try something different, the other works in a bookstore and also claims she doesn't escort.
seanchai

[Mr_Biggs]

Where do you come off telling someone how to spend their hardearned money? If I choose to spend my money on a girl, I'll do just that. I've paid for girls (transsexual and other) and there is no difference between a "Sugar Daddy" and a "Trick". Its a business arrangement, they provide a service and are compensated accordingly.

[d]

Mega, as usual your on point. sugar daddies fuck up the game for the rest of us guys, these chicks see a girl with a sugar daddy and next thing they're trying to get their own sugar daddy by Any means necessary. I've seen many a good girl turn rotten from all that sugar. and the funny thing is some of the ugliest girls have sugar daddies with the deepest pockets and they trot around like their shit dont stink

[Caleigh]

ok, i'm not a "provider" but the way you guys trash talk girls just makes me furious. you are cool with paying $ to sleep with them but as soon
as you are done you are dissing them and making crazy generalizations about them. check a mirror.

white buffalo

[peb]

..IM DOOMED FOR LIKING THIS SHIT....ITS A FUCKING CURSE...I must admit quite often i think my life would be a shitload simpler if i weren't into tgirls...
but..whaddaya gonna do..

[popperluv]

These girls live for the moment.
Damn 200,000 a year .

[Caleigh]

"CALIEGH...GET A GRIP BUDDY...."

i'm as much guy as any of the girls at Allannah's parties

"YOU HAVENT BEEN AROUND THIS LIFESTYLE....."

there you go, talking about things you don't know again.
i'm ts, i know the scene, i've run support groups and i've
also worked for live sex show websites.

alot of the girls who are working as escorts ARE lazy, why shouldn't
they be? they can make $1000 in a night, $300 or so even if they
are "lower rung"

many of them also come from families where they were thrown out
for being trans, have been abused since they were very young for
being trans and can't get a break in the straight world because they're
trans. the dice are loaded against them. i was very lucky. but on
the other hand i would love to make $1000 a night.

"SUGAR DADDYS ARENT TRICKS, THEY ARE WAY PAST THAT..."

what? like i don't know what a sugar daddy is? i've had those kinds
of offers thrown at me. i just can't have sex with people that i don't
sincerely like as a person. it's a character flaw. but why do you dis
sugar daddies? like one of the previous posters said, you must just be
jealous or something. a sugar daddy is just a long term trick. you be
his concubine and he gives you what you need and want. fair exchange.

P.S. i was referring to myself as the White Buffalo, since i have decent
job in straight world.

[hillbilly]

so what's your point.

its typical of mega. he hates the girls, the tricks, the sugar daddies. what does he care. its all fucked up simple as that.

its not a sugar daddy to blame if the girl takes his money. maybe its the girl who can't look past it to you the guy who is a nice working stiff.

like once again what is your pt mega? that you jealous or something. you're so weird. oh yeah and short. um with little beady eyes to boot.

its always the same shit with you. "hey listen to me cause you don't know" hey listen asshole i don't need or want to know what you know. i don't resent the game but you seem to.

don't forget to take your meds today ok?

kisses hillbilly

ps did you take a moment to look at Caleighs profile. she is trans and if i remember says she manages a restaraunt in bklyn. seems to contradict your all knowing view of the "scene". talk to you later shortcake.

[Caleigh]

Megabody,

i worked in the office of www.tslive.com when it was up and running
doing general office work and web marketing. seanchai might even
remember the site from about 6 years ago. it was run out of toronto.

also i notice that you totally skip over my paragraph about how
discriminated against tgirls are from friends, family, jobs and
how many of them are abused.

how do sugar daddies ruin it for you? they work hard,
get a good education and earn enough $ that they can keep an
attractive girl in the lifestyle to which she aspires. that is just
SO unfair!

[tetsuo]

Yo mega, Dude your right on the money. Im glad to see somebody speak the truth for once instead of kissing ass.

[hillbilly]

once again so WHAT IS THE POINT?

this is no different than hot GG's.

how would you have it? i guess is what i'm asking.

if you had money to burn. what would you do?

i know i'd have a kept girl. shit i'd be rotating them. we all would right?

so what is the point?

[GroobySteven]

Your right it's absolutely no different from GG's who work in the sex industry which is what was in my posting - most girls (and I guess a guy) working as an escort are lazy - they would be lazy if they weren't working in the sex industry, it's chicken and egg. Are lazy individuals attracted to lazy money - or does lazy money make lazy individuals?
Who cares - if both parties go into a situation knowing what the score is, ie; I pay, I get sex, I pay more I get better sex then in my opinion it's cool. It's a business transaction.
The "sugar daddies" on the other hand put themselves
a) in a position to be manipulated. They're laying their poker hands on the table for all to see and of course the girls are going to take advantage.
b) in a control position where they try to control a girls life - being her provider therefore means he can tell her what to do, I generally find the sugar daddy types are married, professionals and I'd expect need this aspect of control in their lives.

On the flip side....when a sugar daddy doesn't know he's a sugar daddy. When he thinks he's a good guy who has met a good girl (and the girl tells him everything she knows he wants to hear) and genuinely trying to help her out. The girl is taking advantage by giving the illusion of a relationship. There is no ID card stating "sugar daddy" or "helpless loser".

If a girl has a "sugar daddy" relationship with a guy, where both know what they're getting, then good on both of them. If a girl is manipulating some poor sap into giving away the family heirloom with empty promises, then fuck her, I have zero respect for that individual - whether tgirl or real girl (or dude).
seanchai

[Realgirls4me]

Sean speaks for me on the topic at hand: Simply put, the crux of the matter is that it's a business arrangement between two parties. Sugardaddies buy a long term bus ride, or basically "own" the bus.The rest of us must hitch rides or hail cabs. Envy and jealousy seem to be playing a role here.

OTOH, I have trouble with this assumption that people in the escort industry are there because they are lazy. There are probably a litany of reasons as to how and why they found themselves in that lifestyle or industry, most of which is probably rooted in societal and family condemnation of who they are, but I don't know about labeling them lazy. It might not be a 9 to 5 bank "clean" job, but screening callers, dodging law enforcement, looking alluring 16 hours a day, and putting on pretenses (staying hard for example) while entertaining fat bald overweight men with dirty nails and body odor isn't exactly a dip in the jacuzzi. They have to work at it. ...Work.

... I just wonder what the Vanitys, Cassandra Elas, and Barbie Woods,et all -- upper eschelon girls who must bring in at least 200k per year -- of the escort industry do with their money ? I hope they're investing in property or something ?

[hillbilly]

exactly a simple arrangement benefitting both parties.

i am amazed as to how manipulative some girls can be. downright ruthless. from time to time i have to check myself.

its totally wrong to criticize the guys or girls. we are all in this together.

for me i keep my two lives seperate. this is what works for me.

[d]

It might not be a 9 to 5 bank "clean" job, but screening callers, dodging law enforcement, looking alluring 16 hours a day, and putting on pretenses (staying hard for example) while entertaining fat bald overweight men with dirty nails and body odor isn't exactly a dip in the jacuzzi. They have to work at it. ...Work.


u have a very romantic view of what exactly an escort does. there's no work to it, they don't get up and get dressed in some sexy outfit and sit all day waiting for the phone to ring. all they have to do is get ready once a guy actually is coming over (this takes all of what? a few minutes, shit shave shower whatever). The staying hard? Viagra does all the "heavy lifting". Entertaining fat bald overweight men? more like allow a guy to play with her cock at a rate of $13.33 a minute ($200 dollars divided by 15 minutes). for u to even equate this with the word work is insulting to anyone who has ever rolled over at 6:00am to go get yelled at by a real boss.

[Ecstatic]

On the flip side....when a sugar daddy doesn't know he's a sugar daddy. When he thinks he's a good guy who has met a good girl (and the girl tells him everything she knows he wants to hear) and genuinely trying to help her out. The girl is taking advantage by giving the illusion of a relationship. There is no ID card stating "sugar daddy" or "helpless loser".

If a girl has a "sugar daddy" relationship with a guy, where both know what they're getting, then good on both of them. If a girl is manipulating some poor sap into giving away the family heirloom with empty promises, then fuck her, I have zero respect for that individual - whether tgirl or real girl (or dude).
seanchaiGee, it's a good thing I don't have anywhere near enough money to be a sugar daddy :lol: I agree with you on this important distinction between a known relationship and one where a poor sap is getting suckered (a whole lot more than he's getting sucked). A fool and his money as they say.

[Vicki Richter]

OK Gregg,

Now that you stirred the soup, you going to tell us why you did it?

Personally, I've never done drugs... not even in high school. I think you take that element out of the picture and you would have a lot of girls who were more responsible with their money and lifestyle choices. It's an expensive, addictive habit that can cause irresponsibility.

I also know a lot of girls who are actively working to disconnect themselves from the escorting thing.

Finally, you mention frequently that you want love and commitment. That is a really tough one. In my heart I believe that is what we all want. However, I am sure that it is difficult for girls to trust any man or put their faith into someone else to be their life partner. What would a transsexual sex worker do for a living hitting 50 and getting "divorced" from someone they put all their faith into. Our wonderful legal system doesn't do much to protect same-sex marriages. Unless the significant other was extremely supportive in helping their special someone work towards another, longer term career, then there is a huge risk element involved that genetic women don't always have to fear.

Vicki

Vicki

[GroobySteven]

Yeah but who are we to say what they do with their money?
I choose to invest some of my money and spend the rest on fast cards, cuban cigars and expensive wine - which leaves me very little to show for that money! Why do we need to be dictatorial/fatherlike/controlling in telling them they can't spend it on overpriced clothes, hoodrats and chocolates?
seanchai

[Niels Bohr]

Why do you even care what these people do? Who are you to judge? Worry about things you can't control and you'll end up with an ulcer. Live and let live...

[Vicki Richter]

I have determined that Gregg started this post just to inspire the girls to post. It clearly failed miserably.

Once again I will add a picture to a thread for no other reason than wanting to add a picture to the thread.

[midpier]

Vicki,

I read through 3 pages and your pic was the best part, thanks for making it worth it. Maybe I will see you one time at allanah's parties.
Ciao,
Midpier

[GroobySteven]

Vicki you look off-colour?
seanchai

[Mugai_hentaisha]

Nice Pic Vicki

I would rather get you on a pool table than reply to this post.

however Mega makes a point but alas it is a moot point since it has been a condition that has been around almost as long as hairless monkeys have been around. :lol:


To be absolutely serious here for a sec (about twice as long as the Scotch will allow me to be serious. :D) If a hot looking rich older lady wanted to set me up with all the "stuff" that mega has mentioned.......i would be hardpressed to say no to that sit. :wink: Sorry Mega.

it isn't right but it is the way people do it has been for the longest time while we get true ladies with the understanding like Vickie ( I am not forgetting about the pool table baby doll. :P ) and Alannah (whom i would love to do on the table along with Vickie. :D ) Most would go with the Sugar daddy type scenero(sp). it is a fact of nature that the female of some species will look for a genetic match, then hook up with another male that has a more secure den, nest , whatever. This is also true with human females ( not all of them just some), so why should tgirls be any different? alot of the same hormones are running in their system. In other words they are gonna find sexual gratification then they will find someone who will provide them with what else they want. sorry mega.

About the whole Trick thing.....face it people... whether an escort, a banker, ball player, and the list goes on trust me....we are all in some sense of the word a prosititute. We allow a company or whatever we work for rent us by the hour, so again in a sense we are all the same. We work hard and long and in the end some of us make it and the rest of us get poor :(

The only problem i have with the the whole sex (adult) industry is the lack of brains by some of the workers (again i said some not all :) ) doing as mega and others on this thread have stated getting hooked on drugs and other stuff. However you do get that in everyfield of employement it just seems to me to show more in the sex (adult)industry.

Sorry for my rantings might have gotten alittle off target, sorry

[Realgirls4me]

u have a very romantic view of what exactly an escort does. there's no work to it, they don't get up and get dressed in some sexy outfit and sit all day waiting for the phone to ring. all they have to do is get ready once a guy actually is coming over (this takes all of what? a few minutes, shit shave shower whatever). The staying hard? Viagra does all the "heavy lifting". Entertaining fat bald overweight men? more like allow a guy to play with her cock at a rate of $13.33 a minute ($200 dollars divided by 15 minutes). for u to even equate this with the word work is insulting to anyone who has ever rolled over at 6:00am to go get yelled at by a real boss.

D,

I think you need to go out and talk in depth with an escort. Lay off the Pretty Woman Hollywood image of how an escort lives her life day in and day out. The escorts I have come to know have the phone ringing off the hook all day, and from that phone screen these strangers and regular hobbyists -- a relatively high which either just want to talk or who don't ever show up -- as to who they are and what they seek from their proposed encounter. Juggling this type of schedule EVERYDAY, along with all the risks involved (arrests,diseases,et all), and the sullied reputation that goes with this line of survival is not my idea of fun or a walk in the park, so yes, I would definitely term it work. It might not be working for a "legitimate" entity, such as a bank, which may screw the working man with 24% usury interest rates on their credit card, along with charging them $39.00 late fees, but it is work. For most escorts I have come to know, and I'll grant you I don't know that many, it is nowhere near your limited depiction.

... If you guys want to jump on anyone, jump on the lowest form of life on this planet: A pimp.

[d]

D,

I think you need to go out and talk in depth with an escort. Lay off the Pretty Woman Hollywood image of how an escort lives her life day in and day out. The escorts I have come to know have the phone ringing off the hook all day, and from that phone screen these strangers and regular hobbyists -- a relatively high which either just want to talk or who don't ever show up -- as to who they are and what they seek from their proposed encounter. Juggling this type of schedule EVERYDAY, along with all the risks involved (arrests,diseases,et all), and the sullied reputation that goes with this line of survival is not my idea of fun or a walk in the park, so yes, I would definitely term it work. It might not be working for a "legitimate" entity, such as a bank, which may screw the working man with 24% usury interest rates on their credit card, along with charging them $39.00 late fees, but it is work. For most escorts I have come to know, and I'll grant you I don't know that many, it is nowhere near your limited depiction.


again I call bullshit and here's why. I know escorts. I've dated escorts, and I don't mean dated as in paying for sex. i mean i've had actually long term relationships with tgirls who escort. I've been the boyfriend hiding in the closet while she turned a trick, or laying in the back room where the door was closed so u guys didn't see me.I've had to beat up overzealous "clients" and the lot. I've been right there when they've picked up the phone and answered the endless questions guys call the girls with ("are u functional?" "how big?" "how big are your tits"). I've been with the girls when they decide to blow a weeks worth of cash on weed, x and coke. I know girls who work ho strolls, out there @ 6am selling ass and I know girls who work eros ads. trust me when I tell u the version I put forth is much more correct. the average girl works maybe at most 6 or 8 hours a week and even that is generous,the the rest of the time is spent watching tv, getting their hair done, getting surgery, sleeping and gossiping on the phone.
Yeah talk to an escort,she'll sell u a sob story. Spend a few months with one and you'll see that roses smell like booboo.

[Realgirls4me]

D,

You're straying, and you have inadvertently helped me with my view that what they do is work with all your examples. I could never perform that "walk in the park" day in and day out, could you ? Just because they don't fit your image or description of what a job is -- working 40 hours a week under a boss -- does not nevertheless diminish that what they do is a job, thus work. Utilizing your example, a comediene such as Jerry Seinfeld is therefore lazy because he works a few hours a week or month relative to us 40 hour a week working stiffs. You, given the experiences you've just detailed, of all people should see that what they do is not a walk in the park. It is work, be it for a few hours a week, or working 16 hour days. And, what they do in their spare time is there business. Simply put, it is the fruits of their labor.

[peb]

I dislike generalisations.