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hondarobot
12-21-2006, 06:38 PM
I've gone on and on about the lack of cool stories in the TS porn I've seen. . . so I figured I'd rant on some more about it.

The porn revolution (for lack of a better term) was kicked off by movies like Deep Throat, Behind The Green Door, The Opening Of Misty Bethoven (sp?) and stuff that had actual storylines, as opposed to just gonzo fuck scenes. Most gonzo stuff is strictly watched by single men, who tend to watch a lot of porn. It doesn't appeal to regular straight couples who comprise the mainstream.

Why doesn't anyone try this in the TS scene? I still am curious as to why this hasn't been done. Allanah, Joanna, Tara, lots of girls could pull this off.

That is my question for the day.

:?

Vala_TS
12-21-2006, 07:08 PM
I hate those movies that have a plot. I like the ones that just go straight to the fucking.

AGTFB

hondarobot
12-21-2006, 07:25 PM
It's not like the video would hypnotize a person and force them to absorb the plot. You could just fast forward to the fucking, but a plot being an option would add a new dimension to the whole thing.

But your response is interesting. You represent the majority of porn consumers. What I'm saying is something that aims Beyond the target audience could expand the whole field.

I'm also not saying I'm any sort of authority on the subject, although I did work for a few years in a hip indie video store, so I have that going for me. I know how to market interesting video titles. Here's the trick:

Become a "cool" indie video store guy, stand around smoking cigarettes and blabbing about the movies you like, then badger customers until they rent them. If they attempt to rent something you dont like, tell them the tape or dvd is broken.

It really works.

8)

Smog Boy
12-21-2006, 09:59 PM
I've gone on and on about the lack of cool stories in the TS porn I've seen. . . so I figured I'd rant on some more about it.

The porn revolution (for lack of a better term) was kicked off by movies like Deep Throat, Behind The Green Door, The Opening Of Misty Bethoven (sp?) and stuff that had actual storylines, as opposed to just gonzo fuck scenes. Most gonzo stuff is strictly watched by single men, who tend to watch a lot of porn. It doesn't appeal to regular straight couples who comprise the mainstream.

Why doesn't anyone try this in the TS scene? I still am curious as to why this hasn't been done. Allanah, Joanna, Tara, lots of girls could pull this off.

That is my question for the day.

:?

Shit, Honda, I've asking the same thing for years. Hell, I just thought of an idea - a pussy crazed asshole ends up in the Twilight Zone and ends up in a world where the chicks have cocks. There, simple and cheap, nothing overly complex or expensive.

hondarobot
12-22-2006, 12:01 AM
Well. . . at least smoggy is with me on this one.

More Features :!: Less Gonzo :!:

BeardedOne
12-22-2006, 12:05 AM
More stuff like the T themes in Nip/Tuck, only with sex scenes. :D

Caleigh
12-22-2006, 02:40 AM
I've always wondered why no-one has ever made a film or tv series that included explicit sex scenes but as part of the entirety of the script. Let's say FRIENDS for instance. Only instead of leaving those moments of sexual tension and breaking them by someone walking in the room the people actually get it on. Or BOSTON LEGAL where someone walks in Shatners office and he is getting a blow job from one of the secretaries, explicitly photographed. People DO have have and it seems to me that usually TV and FILM leave it as innuendo and titilliation rather than showing it full frontal.

whatsupwithat
12-22-2006, 02:57 AM
I've always wondered why no-one has ever made a film or tv series that included explicit sex scenes but as part of the entirety of the script. Let's say FRIENDS for instance. Only instead of leaving those moments of sexual tension and breaking them by someone walking in the room the people actually get it on. Or BOSTON LEGAL where someone walks in Shatners office and he is getting a blow job from one of the secretaries, explicitly photographed. People DO have have and it seems to me that usually TV and FILM leave it as innuendo and titilliation rather than showing it full frontal.

Go to your local cineplex this fall. :)

Caleigh
12-22-2006, 06:24 AM
and what about pornographic versions of games
like um.. that one with with greek gods and stuff.
i don't play any computer/video games at all so
i'm out of touch but conceptually you'd think they
would have that stuff out already.

Trans_Lover
12-22-2006, 06:27 AM
why not just beat off to tranny cartoons, porn with a story line suck

HornieHubbieinCT
12-22-2006, 07:16 AM
Actually, the happy medium could be reached with a plot driven flick with hot sex scenes, but the DVD could be authored so that those who wanted to just hit up the grinding bodies could do so by selecting a menu option.

HH

Smog Boy
12-22-2006, 11:21 AM
I've always wondered why no-one has ever made a film or tv series that included explicit sex scenes but as part of the entirety of the script. Let's say FRIENDS for instance. Only instead of leaving those moments of sexual tension and breaking them by someone walking in the room the people actually get it on. Or BOSTON LEGAL where someone walks in Shatners office and he is getting a blow job from one of the secretaries, explicitly photographed. People DO have have and it seems to me that usually TV and FILM leave it as innuendo and titilliation rather than showing it full frontal.

If you haven't seen it, check out "The Brown Bunny" with Vincent Gallo, it features a full-on blow job and the film "Intimacy" with Kerry Fox, another one with a blow-job that's available from Blockbusters. In both films the hard sex is a part of the story and isn''t there for cheap titillation.

trannylover_york
12-22-2006, 11:48 AM
I have been wondering myself where the ts films with actual plot are. There must be a market for it even if it is only small.
I had a film called "Transsexual Transylvanians". It wasn't brilliantly done but the idea of at least trying to link sex scenes with a flimsy plot was there.
Maybe part of the problem is that acting isn't a strong talent amongst some tgirl pornstars. Often you see fluffed lines even in the small bits of dialogue in the films we see.
Although, I guess the main motivator is supply/demand. Many guys only want the sex scenes and as many for their money as they can get.
I'd prefer more plot.

hondarobot
12-22-2006, 06:12 PM
Interesting posts from all. I think this really is a subject worth examining more, but unfortunately this is one of the rare days where I have actual work to do at work.

:(

I'll check back, maybe some of the porn insiders will share some thoughts.

francisfkudrow
12-22-2006, 06:36 PM
As far as why there aren't explicit sex scenes in TV shows, have you been to the U.S.? There were Congressional hearings when Janet Jackson's breast made a 1/2 second appearance during the Super Bowl halftime show. A certain vocal part of the U.S. population thinks the shows we have now have too much sex and violence; you'll never see any more sex than we have now.

hondarobot
12-22-2006, 07:15 PM
I totally agree with the current US mindset regarding anything explicit on most TV, but you will notice cable TV is getting much more open to sex, so that's a positive.

Caleigh made an interesting post about sex in video games. It has happened but it's never really been done well, in my opinion. I'm working with a couple of coder guys on a game of my own right now, and sex will be a factor in it. A truely erotic game has yet to be made though.

Maybe that will be my next project. Of course, we've got a bazillion lines of code to script right now, I think I need a bigger staff.

djbj_2_2_69
12-23-2006, 04:46 AM
One of my favorites is called "My Brother is a Shemale". Now the brother, as far as I can tell isn't a shemale in the video. It's in another language (Italian I think) and i think the title was screwed up in translation to english.
It has some plot to it, but like i said due to it being in somthing other then english I have no idea what it is. The sex scenes are pretty good and the final scene is 2 trannies, a guy, and a GG.

http://www.bestshemales.com/tr060706rrr343/allshemalevideo.html

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/djbj2269/shemale.jpg

yodajazz
12-23-2006, 09:30 AM
I have said more than once in other threads that there should be TS movies with a plot and be more soft core. The goal would be to be shown on a Playboy channel or similar medium. A lot of guys on here are more hard core of course, but I feel that those movies could reach a wider audience. My thought is to release the movie in two versions; one without the hardcore sex.

There is a segment of people who enjoy TG fiction. They don't need pictures of cocks for there enjoyment; its all imagination of scenarios. A softer core movie might attract that segment.