So what does it for you... minus the cock

[Fox]

It's the "best of both worlds" thing for me. Especially with TS on GG, very hot.

[uncutlove]

I really like anal sex and with a tranny theres no pressuring them into it. :)

[ed_jaxon]

In my limited experience...

They act sexier. Too often I have found gg's have to be begged to dress up and act sexy while tgirls just do it. Also their sexual drive is closer to a man's so you get a good looking woman who really likes sex.

Just my .02

[InHouston]

Overall, I'm just facinated by the alternate gender of shemales.

[Fockzilla]

I think the openness to try new things, the personality, and the fact that they used to be guys all comes into play. Plus if they can really pull off being female than they might as well have been born that way. So its pretty much like being with an actual female, only better.

[peggygee]

Ignoring that trannies have a cock, is there anything else that attracts you to them over a GG...

For me it is:

1) Of my limited experience of TS, of all the one's I've met, they have all had fantastic colourful personalities.

2) The fact that in some way, they used to be a guy, I feel I can relate to them better than I can with a GG.

Your thoughts please....
Fockzilla Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:56 pm Post subject:
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I think the openness to try new things, the personality, and the fact that they used to be guys all comes into play. Plus if they can really pull off being female than they might as well have been born that way. So its pretty much like being with an actual female, only better.

InHouston Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:54 pm Post subject:

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Overall, I'm just facinated by the alternate gender of shemales.

ed_jaxon Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject:

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In my limited experience...

They act sexier. Too often I have found gg's have to be begged to dress up and act sexy while tgirls just do it. Also their sexual drive is closer to a man's so you get a good looking woman who really likes sex.

Just my .02
uncutlove Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:14 am Post subject:

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I really like anal sex and with a tranny theres no pressuring them into it.

Fox Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:10 am Post subject:

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It's the "best of both worlds" thing for me. Especially with TS on GG, very hot.
Silvester




:popcorn .. .. .. ..:roll:

[BeardedOne]

Aw, c'mon, Ms. Peggy, it's not that far a reach to ask this question (Though it is a variation on a recurring theme). :lol:

I agree on the colorful personalities, but that is, by nature, a result of the culture and community from whence they came (In my limited experience which, primarily, has been commercial).

As for relating better because of their past gender history, there's something to be said of that as well. Granted, my view is somewhat skewed because I dated more lesbians than straight women, so I was more apt to encounter femme gearheads than most men do. :) Of the two gurls I've been most intimate with, one was very attuned to geekness, showing me things on my computer that I'd never have stumbled upon without her direction, and the other was very into her car and its inner workings. Needless to say, the conversation was almost as hot as the intimacies. Almost. :wink:

Beyond that, it's really hard to say. I mean, leaving out the dick portion of the equation (Which is a very strong persuader for me), it just comes down to basic attractions. Some of the gurls I am attracted to (Beyond the "extras") tend to have very nice eyes and expressive smiles, something that really turns me on before any clothing is shed. Alannah, Vicki, Hilda, Kalina, Madison, and Melania all shine in that department.

Yah, the dick is nice, but give me gorgeous eyes I can look into all day. :D

[peggygee]

Aw, c'mon, Ms. Peggy, it's not that far a reach to ask this question (Though it is a variation on a recurring theme). :lol:

:D

We are cool with the question. 8)
It's the answers,http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/pc_police_image.jpg

That the jury is still out on...... :popcorn
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/womanjury3.jpg

Wait a minute, what's up with the all white jury?
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/judge.jpg]

Aww hell, these'biddies' are going to cause a mistrial :roll:

[peggygee]

But now in hindsight, we shouldn't have leaked
our investigation, but rather just continued to bug
the 'Lockeroom', and monitor your un-censored.
comments :whoa

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/wiretap5.jpg

That way we would have had a 'running indictment'
that would have stuck. :peanutbutter

So please continue, and speak into the mic, er, ah, I mean
the crotch, what was it that you like about T-girls, G-men.

Hmmn, I wonder does that 'G' stand for ... :roll:

Colorful :lol:

[yodajazz]

I have always admired t-girls for living their dreams. They escape the bondage of their bodies to be something their mind and hearts tell them. They risk disapproval from familes and large segments of society.

That gives them a lot in common with my heros, artists who expressed what was in their soul, not focusing on pleasing the masses for money.
Or just going the easiest way.

I have met a couple of girls who had entertaining personalities. I thought that they should be on stage but they were not entertainers.

[peggygee]

peggygee, where are you coming from? I posted this thread cos most threads seem to be obsessed with cock, I was curious to see the response it would get taking that element out of it.

I admit my fist reason was a bit crass, as BeardedOne notes, people are people. The second is limited emperical evidence, relative to my experiences with GG's, btw, I am not gay, or attracted to masculinity or men in any wave, shape or form.

You may have misunderstood my post. Some of that was
my strange, satirical, dry wit sense of humor.

Also as you are somewhat new here, you haven't seen
my many posts advocating and educating on
issues impacting transwomen.
:soapbox

Some guys tend to think I am the enforcement arm
of the politically correct police. And they are right to
a certain extent. As a matter of fact here I am
on an undercover sting operation.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/police.jpg

The photo has been blurred so as not
to blow my cover. :anon

But I can divulge that I am not a
woman of the causcasian persuasion.

Also, as a post op you wouldn't believe the
places I hide my gun :roll:

[goring]

one word -

courage.

[Coucoupietre]

1) Shemale originally is a man so she knows what a man wants. She knows what turns on man like lingerie, high heels, dirty talking etc.

2) She sucks you not because you want her to do it, she sucks you because she wants to suck.

3) I dislike that juicy smelly pussy which a shemale doesn't have.

4) I agree with Fox anal sex is the only way for having sex no need to beg for it.

[peggygee]

3) I dislike that juicy smelly pussy which a shemale doesn't have.



Reminds me of the joke about the blind guy who passes a fish store, and says "gooday ladies" :shock:

[Vic]

For me its the obvious physical arousal that is unmistakable when a T-girl is turned on. For instance when it comes to a GG, the sexual act is based upon reactive gestures; I have no real experience with T-girls other than watching videos. And, you cannot mistake when a T-girl is turned on; something that a GG can fake in a video. And finally, when a T-girl has an orgasm, a GG can't compare! The more feminine the T-girl, and the bigger the dick, the better! I love a T-girl where she appears in a scene, and you cannot tell what the gender is until the rock hard dick appears!!! :P

I love that shit! :twisted:

[deebo]

I really like anal sex and with a tranny theres no pressuring them into it. :)

i can really relate to that

[Sacha]

The more feminine the T-girl, and the bigger the dick, the better! I love a T-girl where she appears in a scene, and you cannot tell what the gender is until the rock hard dick appears!!! :P

I love that shit! :twisted:

Hell ... Yeah ... Me too Vic ... and if that makes me twisted then ... well, fine! But I am Happy about the fact that I am 'twisted' ... if that's what someone judges me to be HAHAHAHA!

Mind You ... I recently replied to a post related to a topic on this forum called "Man Made Pussy (Post-Ops)" ... and whilst I could really appreciate that for some (in their mind) they didn't get the sexual appeal and power of a girl that started out in life and culminated in full SRS ... (and I on the one hand can see their point because I too find TS Girls who are non-op/pre-op soooo sexy not in spite of what they boast down below ... but directly BECAUSE of it ...) nevertheless I have my own story to tell ... and maybe 'story' is the wrong word - as it actually happened - here goes:

"I am turned on by girls that have 'that something extra' between their legs ... and I can say hand on heart that there is a usually an instant and powerful sexual attraction for me towards most feminine looking pre-op/non-op girls.

However, about a year back, in Spain ... I met at a club with a beautiful post-op girl who I had no I idea was not originally born as a 'GG' ... until we were both later on very naked indeed and highly involved in sexual pursuit of each other. It was only then that I got an 'inkling' that she was a girl that had gone through SRS in order to become who she was now. It occured that there were certain 'tell-tales' that perhaps I don't need to go into right now.

What I feel you may possibly be missing out on here however is what it takes for an SRS girl to take these steps to have the full operation. The courage, the vision and the power (the exquisite force of femininity driving her ... that has been inside her all along since she was born) behind her that drove her to be realise what she has culminated in becoming.

I cannot begin to tell you how very much more feminine and girly she was in comparison to 99.9% of all other GGs that I have ever been with.

Or, perhaps I should also mention that she was also nothing short of heartbreakingly beautiful. Standing 5'10 / 5'11 with a body that combined that of a pole dancer and a model, allied to facial features that resembled a young Sandra Bullock.

And she was so incredibly passionate a lover.

Her name was Maria, and I doubt if I will EVER get her out of my mind. She was remarkable, and exceptional ... her female sexuality upstaged and put to shame most other women I have ever been with.

I made the stupid mistake of never getting her number from her ... and although I have tried to find her through web pages around the North of Spain (Basque area) where she originates from ... I have, to this day, not managed to find any trace of her.

My point here is ... regardless of the fact that a post-op may in your mind be missing that apparent factor that turns the switch on for you (as it does for me too of course ... or else why would I frequent this site!?!!) I can safely say that from my experience that a post-op SRS girl offers a certain magic ... the beauty, memory and energy of which will be indellibly set in my mind until my dying day.

The brief encounter that I had the pleasure of spending with her was nothing short of being "Absolutamente Inolvidable".

Unforgettable"

Anyways ... I have never been with a non-op girl as yet ... but I am planning to do so in the near future .... it's something that has been driving me wild for many years and I have come to the realisation that in life it is important to not have regrets about things that you never got to do.

So, yes I am fully with you regarding pre-op/non-op girls ... but the 'sting in the tale' for me is that I already had an insight due to experience will a full SRS girl that suggests they were ALWAYS going to be THAT much sexier than any GG.

Well, anyways ... Peace, Bro! ... and a Happy New Year to you and ALL on this Forum!

Sacha

[Bic]

some of thier bodies are great. pretty faces, nice neck lins(great for kissing) and some of the asses are so nice and jucy, round and firm :)

[RangeHova]

I actually had to grow into liking the dick part of a TS.

From a physical point I like women that enjoy being women and all of the girly/womanly things that women do (makeup, heels, fasion forward-ness). Not so much in some fetish (make my dick hard) kind of way. It is just as sexy seeing beautiful girl that looks just as pretty, passable, and feminine without a bit of makeup, in jeans and a t shirt as it is in her heels and a sexy outfit, painted like a model for MAC.

Sexually, I do find that TS women (post as well as pre op) enjoy sex in a whole different way than most genetic women.

Some genetic women come with a lot of societal pressures that can prevent them from not to be fully able to release what they feel sexually. I never subscribed to the notion that same gendered partners know how to please you any better hust because they have the same equipment (what one guy likes another guy hates). But I do feel that our drives are more similar and more easily intuned to one another. And TS women tend to get some things that men enjoy and inturn doing those things for men.

I also enjoy the connection that you can have with a TS woman in a relationship. It can be an 'us against the world' thing in dealing with the rest of the world (straight, gay and trans, especially the trans world).

It has been my experience that many transwomen can be very nurturing, yeah that goes against what we see in porn and escort behavior but this is real life. When a transwoman really cares about you (and trust you) they will go to the ends for you.

Transwomen tend to love real hard (no pun) when in close relationships, sometimes too hard.

But when it works, you can't beat it.

[Sacha]

It has been my experience that many transwomen can be very nurturing, yeah that goes against what we see in porn and escort behavior but this is real life. When a transwoman really cares about you (and trust you) they will go to the ends for you.

Transwomen tend to love real hard (no pun) when in close relationships, sometimes too hard.

But when it works, you can't beat it.

100% Bang on Target ... RangeHova ... agreed totally!

[barclee]

to me there are three kinds: you have men, women and transsexuals.

I consider myself to be hetero, in spite of my experiences with ts. Over the past 14 years I had sex with 4 or 5 different t-girls (and it was making-love not plain sex) but sex was not the most important to me. I feel attrackted to ts perhaps because many are much more feminine than women, they have a better taste and understand better what a man likes, I read here "the best of both worlds"that's true but a well known easy quote.
Of course it also has to do with your own experiences in life. The more extreme things that overcome to you, the more you are open to remove/change your limits.
I knew a female prostitute for 12 years (and she was beauuuuuuuuuuuuutiful), we lived together for 3 years under the same roof and had (what I thought) was my son. After we seperated I started to check the "catwalk" in the red lite district in Rotterdam (which now no longer exists) to see if she went back on the streets and that's how I got "involved" in the transsexual world.

I don't know how to explain further, sorry English is not my mother language so I tried my best.

[whatsupwithat]

I gave up trrying to answer that question years ago. I just am what I am and like what I like.

[tg4me]

(looks-wise ONLY!!) a t-girl would do nothing for me if they were a post-op unless they were still stunning to me with their cloths on. I won't even look at a thread that shows post-ops. T-girls are just sex toys. Just like a cute 18 year old stripper. To me the perfect toy would be a cut t-girl without those disgusting things we call balls. She would have a pussy there instead. From behind she would still be a girl. Remember I,m only talking looks not the person

[Fockzilla]

Beyond that, it's really hard to say. I mean, leaving out the dick portion of the equation (Which is a very strong persuader for me), it just comes down to basic attractions. Some of the gurls I am attracted to (Beyond the "extras") tend to have very nice eyes and expressive smiles, something that really turns me on before any clothing is shed.


First I read this and thought "HOLY CRAP!"


Then later I read this:



It has been my experience that many transwomen can be very nurturing, yeah that goes against what we see in porn and escort behavior but this is real life. When a transwoman really cares about you (and trust you) they will go to the ends for you.

Transwomen tend to love real hard (no pun) when in close relationships, sometimes too hard.

But when it works, you can't beat it.

100% Bang on Target ... RangeHova ... agreed totally!

and thought, "Hmm. Ok, I can relate to that."

Wait I just read this one too:


(looks-wise ONLY!!) a t-girl would do nothing for me if they were a post-op unless they were still stunning to me with their cloths on. I won't even look at a thread that shows post-ops. T-girls are just sex toys. Just like a cute 18 year old stripper. To me the perfect toy would be a cut t-girl without those disgusting things we call balls. She would have a pussy there instead. From behind she would still be a girl. Remember I,m only talking looks not the person

Ok, this one's just whack! :thumbsdown

[Dkg]

Well, most of them have really great personalities and LOTS of character. I mean, you almost have to have these things to be a transsexual. They are, in gerneral, really cool peeps. Yeah, some can be bitchy but what's a girl without some bitchyness (is that a word?).

There's a lot more to these girls than just cocks, or tits/boobs.

[bill clinton]

2) The fact that in some way, they used to be a guy, I feel I can relate to them better than I can with a GG.


and because they were/are guys, sex with them is viewed as "wrong" and taboo. that's what turns me on the most

[Dkg]

^^ what a horrible first post....

welcome to the boards.

[EdelweissFan]

First, I agree with the newbie bill clinton that a big turn on is the "forbidden fruit" aspect. I'm attracted to women who make sex seem dirty -- TS's, dominatrixes, strippers.

Second, I like fit women in general, and because of the years in which they had testosterone in their bodies, many TS women have an athletic, sexy look -- especially long, toned legs. Almost all GG women have a tendency to be a little plump, which is OK, but I really like athletic women and TSs.

Third and maybe most important, because TS's have to work hard at being women, they are hyper-feminine and hyper sexy, while most GGs these days don't really try that hard. The feminist movement has convinced GGs that we should appreciate them most of all for their personalities and minds, not their bodies, and maybe they are right. But I adore TS's and strippers because of their relentless seduction.

I disagree about the sex appetite thing a few have mentioned. Whenever sex drive comes on various boards I frequent, I'm amazed at the view most men have of GGs. Maybe my experience has been lucky, or maybe it's because I'm getting older (in the age range where women's sex drives increase dramatically) or maybe because I've been involved with NYC latinas, or maybe it's because I'm in a LTR, but I find that GGs have incredibly strong sex drive -- almost too strong to keep up with.

But it is different, it's less seductive.

[s-fme]

I agree with the idea that most ts' s are much more feminine than natural women. As well they seem to be more comfortable with themselves than any woman I have ever met and that self confidence is just so sexy!!

[Smog Boy]

Ignoring that trannies have a cock, is there anything else that attracts you to them over a GG...

A heartbeat.

[wombat33]

Ignoring that trannies have a cock, is there anything else that attracts you to them over a GG...

For me it is:

1) Of my limited experience of TS, of all the one's I've met, they have all had fantastic colourful personalities.

2) The fact that in some way, they used to be a guy, I feel I can relate to them better than I can with a GG.

Your thoughts please....


THE CUM!

[BeardedOne]

Ignoring that trannies have a cock, is there anything else that attracts you to them over a GG...

For me it is:

1) Of my limited experience of TS, of all the one's I've met, they have all had fantastic colourful personalities.

2) The fact that in some way, they used to be a guy, I feel I can relate to them better than I can with a GG.

Your thoughts please....


THE CUM!

Agreed!

I've only met a handful of GGs that can squirt like that! :shock:

[barclee]

Ignoring that trannies have a cock, is there anything else that attracts you to them over a GG...
For me it is:
1) Of my limited experience of TS, of all the one's I've met, they have all had fantastic colourful personalities.
2) The fact that in some way, they used to be a guy, I feel I can relate to them better than I can with a GG.
Your thoughts please....
THE CUM!

The CUM, this is cheap, I have cum myself so for me that's not the reason. There was a red light section in the city I live, and there were mostly between 10 and 20 t-girls walking there. Some of them were male-in-dresses, mostly domestics, but there were also a lot of ladies from Columbia, Mexico, Venezuela, Singapore etc. which had such perfect appearance that they looked even more feminine than natural GG.
This is what attracted me and of course the sex later turned me on, I would be a liar to deny that.
My problem is, that I consider myself as hetrosexual (see post on previous page), but feel attracted to ts, even so intens that when I meet a girl who 'has the looks' that I hope that she is a ts ....

Referring to the topic the Italian guy Traslave started: it's the same as I feel: Where does it come from that if someone who feels attracted to what I call 'the third kind' (male, female, transsexual) the rest of the world considers him to be gay??? I mean, I shiver with the idea to have sex with a man ...
Does it have to do with domination, body hair, church ..., what do you think.

[ts_lover769]

The thing about TS Girls is that often times they are more woman than women. In other words, they have so embraced by choice or more accurately they are driven to femininity, or at the very least the outward expression of femininity, to such a great extent that they've learned to express such said femininity with such utter sexyness better than many Genetic Girls, much like the famed Geisha of Japan.

Many Genetic Girls have been discouraged from expressing and embracing their femininity by some aspects of the radical feminist movement; not wanted to be only a sex object, and more so probably by the various so-called great religious doctrines of the world; preaching that sex is bad and the feminine is dirty. Women have always been seen as the inferior sex, look at the character used to describe woman in many Asian cultures and take the Biblical story of Adam and Eve essentially blames women for the fall of humanity. Interestingly the Eve was not Adam's first mate, that honor was Lilith's who demanded equality and refused to have sex in the missionary position therefore God and Adam exiled her from the garden, she was said to have been created from contaminated mud, unlike Adam and Eve.

Anyway, back to Genetic Girls, I've noticed recently over the last decade that many younger (American) college and high school girls and also European girls and I've been told Japanese and South Korean girls have seemed to have learned to embrace their femininity and their independence combining the best of both side of their paradigm.

However as a male, I hate to sound shallow but for me a T-gurl, as well as a Genetic girl, has to be feminine and shapely (not fat) and fit, I'm not into those that look masculine or overly muscular.

[peggygee]

When this thread first started I had more than a sneaking suspicion as to what the responses would be.

Thus my comments: http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=13731&start=0

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=13731&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=10

A high percentage of the responses perceive transwoman as, 'the best of both worlds'. Further many posters felt that transsexuals were hyper-sexual, and more apt to be ultra-feminine, particularly as compared to genetic females.

In my opinion this may be a distorted viewpoint fueled by the adult entertainment industry, and by posters with relatively limited exposure to tranwomen.

Interestingly the posters who have had more exposure to the trans-community were less inclined to view the women in a sexual light or for their fetish and taboo qualities.

Rather, the individuals who were more knownlegeable about the trans-community were more prone to be interested in the women for her personality characteristics, than for her genitialia.

Thus, even though the question was "So what does it for you... minus the cock", it still seems that for many the answer is still....S-E-X.

[lust4ts]

I agree Peggy but what you have to remember is that alot of the people here do not come from places where they meet transsexuals on a personal basis daily and therefore maybe on a subconscious level associate transgender people with sex as the only time they see them is in a movie, pic or website. I know it's probably wrong but I come from reasonably small town near london Uk and have had two experiences with transgender person, one an escort the other a one night stand with a girl I met in the west end of london. I have not had a relationship with a TS allthough I would like to. It's just that this is where work, have friends and family and as much as id like to, I just can not justify moving half way across the world to meet more transgender people on a non sexual basis. I guess what I am saying is allthough it's a sad fact but alot of people in areas where there is not a transgender community to speak of associate transsexuals with sex. That's why a board like this and people like your self can help guys like me look into deeper issues. When i joined this forum I was frankly quite ignorant and had some wrong opinions and im sure I still have a few but I would like to think that I have less than I did before.

[Dkg]

Ive never been with a ts before but even I know that there's more to these women than just sex. Some guys are really just too narrowminded for this kind of question....no offense.

[barclee]

The thing about TS Girls is that often times they are more woman than women. In other words, they have so embraced by choice or more accurately they are driven to femininity, or at the very least the outward expression of femininity, to such a great extent that they've learned to express such said femininity with such utter sexyness better than many Genetic Girls, much like the famed Geisha of Japan.

Many Genetic Girls have been discouraged from expressing and embracing their femininity by some aspects of the radical feminist movement; not wanted to be only a sex object, and more so probably by the various so-called great religious doctrines of the world; preaching that sex is bad and the feminine is dirty. Women have always been seen as the inferior sex, look at the character used to describe woman in many Asian cultures and take the Biblical story of Adam and Eve essentially blames women for the fall of humanity. Interestingly the Eve was not Adam's first mate, that honor was Lilith's who demanded equality and refused to have sex in the missionary position therefore God and Adam exiled her from the garden, she was said to have been created from contaminated mud, unlike Adam and Eve.

Anyway, back to Genetic Girls, I've noticed recently over the last decade that many younger (American) college and high school girls and also European girls and I've been told Japanese and South Korean girls have seemed to have learned to embrace their femininity and their independence combining the best of both side of their paradigm.

However as a male, I hate to sound shallow but for me a T-gurl, as well as a Genetic girl, has to be feminine and shapely (not fat) and fit, I'm not into those that look masculine or overly muscular.

I agree to that completely!!!

[Fox]

I was originally going to edit my "best of both worlds" comment as I thought it didn't come off accurately. Also, I didn't realize this thread was asking a deeper question when I first replied.

Anyway, I want to say that while I've never been with a tgirl, or even know any personally, I know there's far more to them than meets the eye. I see tgirls being no different from GGs except for one minor biological detail. So with that said, I'd pursue a relationship with a TG just like any other GG. I treat them the same (that is to say, I treat my lady how I'd want someone to treat one of my younger sisters).

I agree with RangeHova. Unfortunately, it seems many TGs have a hard time (harder than GG, anyway) having a meaningful relationship, so I can see a TG loving hard given the opportunity, and I'd love to be on the receiving end of that. :)

So, to answer the topic question more clearly, I just like the femininity. I like to look at it like this; if you're a woman, I don't care what's between your legs.