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NRT
11-27-2006, 05:19 AM
I spoke to someone who was involved in the porn trade in London. I was surpised to learn that it does not pay well. Escorts can earn far more and their identities are secret. I was told by one that she can earn more in a day than what porno producers pay for a film. It may take 2-3 hours to shoot a film where they are paid £500. The producer/film maker could make £10k.

So what is the attraction? Ive seen some films made by Ben Dover where he uses unkknown teenage girls. They wont get rich from it. Maybe they do it to get noticed in the industry, or for extra money. But they will be known permanently for what they did, unlike escort which pays more. Or do some have an exhibitionist nature? Dont porn stars regret it later?

qeuqheeg222
11-27-2006, 08:29 AM
it is used as advertisement of skills...then the girl can go back to escorting and charge more money...look at some of the eros ads for girls who have done porn and the prices they charge compared to others...

Danielle Foxxx
11-27-2006, 10:01 AM
Quality !!!

I always tend to trust someone who I know will make me feel like a queen rather then take the chance on someone who may or may not make me feel special. And ofcorse the peace of mind I am not at a high risk for stds. I think 100 or 200 more dollars is worth that chance...

What do you all think?

DJ_Asia
11-27-2006, 10:10 AM
The porn industry in general does not pay much at all,but still there is an inherent difference in the industry when it comes to female performers,male and TS's .

In straight porn the guys make very little and having done a few movies awhile back I can also testify that its not much fun contrary to public perception.
Female performs however can make some movies and then hit the strip club circuit as a feature performer,travelling around the US and appearing at gentlemen clubs on a weekend and make a good deal of cash from the money she makes from the club paying her for the appearance,tips on stage,and selling of merchandise and polaroids after each performance.

Ts's on the other hand do not enjoy that luxury sadly and escorting is the only place to meet their fans.Dont get me wrong,some porn females escort too,but the percentage isnt nearly what it is amongst the TS girls.

Danielle Foxxx
11-27-2006, 10:20 AM
Female escorts charge over 1000 bucks for service... geesh... and they get it too...

So whats the big deal... want a bargain you have to go to your local hot corner and do a drive by... LOL

qeuqheeg222
11-27-2006, 11:06 AM
she's right-but often you get what you paid for ...

NRT
11-27-2006, 03:38 PM
Further to DJ Asia's comments above about porn trade not paying well, isnt it a multi (b)millioin dollar industry with LA being the word centre? Private has the top glamour girls in most exotic locations around the world so there must be money to be made

Arent the likes of Sean Michaels, Ron Jeremy, Ben Dover, Max Hardcore, Omar, Sara Young, Peter North etc millionaires from making porn? Or is it BS? Or do performers they hire only get pay a set fee ie per hour or day and sign away royalties as part of the agreement? In other words you only make money if you are the producer/distributor?

I heard from guy I spoke to who worked in the porn trade, that the industry is allegedly ideal for money laundering, which is rife. That is why you have the exotic locations. Coud this account for poor pay for performers?

DJ_Asia
11-27-2006, 07:21 PM
Further to DJ Asia's comments above about porn trade not paying well, isnt it a multi (b)millioin dollar industry with LA being the word centre? Private has the top glamour girls in most exotic locations around the world so there must be money to be made

Arent the likes of Sean Michaels, Ron Jeremy, Ben Dover, Max Hardcore, Omar, Sara Young, Peter North etc millionaires from making porn? Or is it BS? Or do performers they hire only get pay a set fee ie per hour or day and sign away royalties as part of the agreement? In other words you only make money if you are the producer/distributor?

I heard from guy I spoke to who worked in the porn trade, that the industry is allegedly ideal for money laundering, which is rife. That is why you have the exotic locations. Coud this account for poor pay for performers?

Typically performers are paid per scene rates dependant upon the type of scene(solo,girl/girl,boy/girl,b/b/g etc...etc....)

Unless its a performers own production,talent is not typically given any residuals whatsoever.

The big names like you mentioned indeed have some cash and that $ was made from producing their own lines,and yeah a Lex Steele will command a higher rate then you or I because..well because hes hung like a horse and can get it up,keep it up and cum on cue,which isnt easy w/ 20 bored crew members staring at you and directors barking out orders to move your leg cuz u are blocking a shot.This is why you see the same 10-20 guys in straight porn over and over...its not an easy job...and it costs money when you run over time due to "wood issues"

The laundering part I have no idea and if i did i prolly wouldnt admit it anyways...lol

rvince
11-27-2006, 07:29 PM
Arent the likes of Sean Michaels, Ron Jeremy, Ben Dover, Max Hardcore, Omar, Sara Young, Peter North etc millionaires from making porn? Or is it BS?

Look at IT: Not every computer nerd became as rich as Bill Gates or the Google founders.
It's the same with porn: for every millionaire this industry makes there and thousand people working hard to just pay their rent.

boogiecrew
11-27-2006, 08:57 PM
The real money is not in front of the camera.

Danielle Foxxx
11-27-2006, 08:58 PM
Well Brasilan girls get payed something like 100 - 200 bucks a scene while the American girls who are known to keep your movies off the shelfs get 10 times that ammount. Vanitty was known to be charging 3gs for a scene for a while, I think she pissed too many people off and had to re-evaluate her worth... LOL

But conspiracy theory is best left for the movies... But I am sure there are crooks in any business really.

trannyfan80
11-28-2006, 04:01 AM
Hi -

I don't know if I'm supposed to do this- as I'm new I'll plead ignorance.. But its kinda related to your post.

My question is - are you EVER going to visit us in London? I see you on Eros (OK - I search for you to see where you're visiting) and I've seen a load of your movies a HUGE number of times. Sorry to sound like a sappy fan, but please come over - I'd LOVE to meet you if possible. And like you say - more than happy to pay the extra for the quality, and to stay away from the STDs.


Stay Sexy

x

ARMANIXXX
11-28-2006, 04:32 AM
Quality !!!

I always tend to trust someone who I know will make me feel like a queen rather then take the chance on someone who may or may not make me feel special. And ofcorse the peace of mind I am not at a high risk for stds. I think 100 or 200 more dollars is worth that chance...

What do you all think?

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I think it's a bit off centered to believe that just because someone does and/or is good at porn, that will automatically make them a good escort.

Danielle Foxxx
11-28-2006, 06:09 AM
VERY TRUE

trannyfan80
11-28-2006, 09:57 PM
Sorry - I don't think I made myself clear, but that was a question to Danielle - (Are you going to come visit us in the UK?)

Danielle Foxxx
11-28-2006, 10:20 PM
I would love to, I would have to tag along with Allanah or someone for that - I am scared to travell alone to long distances. If Allanah would be so kind to invite me and give me some info one of these days, but she is too good to hit me up... LOL

Luv ya cookie crumbler...

trannyfan80
11-28-2006, 10:29 PM
Well in that case, I had better lobby Allanah!!

I actually went to see Allanah the last time she was in London (Not last week, but the time before)... She was amazing - So kind and understanding, even with my nervousness (as it was my first time) if you k now what I mean.

Please DO try to come at some point - Soon. It'd be great to see you, since I've been jealously watching you in action for a couple of years now and would love to meAt you for real.

xx

meatloaf
11-28-2006, 10:40 PM
Back to the question about the porno industry, I was also amazed how many women will be willing to f*** on camera for almost nothing. A few years ago I needed some trade show girls for a trade show in L.A. My industry has NOTHING to do with the adult industry. But the adult industry trade show was the same weekend in the same place. So a lot of girls saw my ad on Craig's List looking for someone to work at the trade show and assumed I wanted them for the adult trade show. I got HUNDREDS of e-mails including all these naked model shots. Not that I complained but most of them were just trying to break into the adult industry anyway anyhow.

I think sometimes it would be cheaper to just get a camera, and make your own porno films, then it would to actually hire an escort.

NRT
11-28-2006, 11:59 PM
Back to the question about the porno industry, I was also amazed how many women will be willing to f*** on camera for almost nothing. A few years ago I needed some trade show girls for a trade show in L.A. My industry has NOTHING to do with the adult industry. But the adult industry trade show was the same weekend in the same place. So a lot of girls saw my ad on Craig's List looking for someone to work at the trade show and assumed I wanted them for the adult trade show. I got HUNDREDS of e-mails including all these naked model shots. Not that I complained but most of them were just trying to break into the adult industry anyway anyhow.

I think sometimes it would be cheaper to just get a camera, and make your own porno films, then it would to actually hire an escort.

So there are hundreds of wannabee female porn stars desperate to break into it? Is it easier to get into than normal entertainment/showbiz, for peanuts? But once they make one film the whole world knows about it so to speak, and it could come back to haunt you. Wasnt there a famous oriental porn star, suzie chong??? (who broke the record for the biggest gang bang ever with over 300+ guys, final one, Ron Jeremy). Her family thought she was just a student in the US and not in the porn trade, caused major regrets for her and family. I believe she is no longer involved.

You often hear of porn stars having tortured souls and lives despite the envy and glamour. Yet many are eager to get in. Are the producers guilty of exploiting? or do they care cos the demand is so great?

trannyfan80
11-29-2006, 12:49 AM
annabel chong - but she has serious pyschiatric issues, judging from the documentary I saw on her

meatloaf
11-29-2006, 12:50 AM
I would guess that many people in their late teens to mid 20s do stupid things they regret later. In this case, it happens to be doing a DP on film that will never go away.

templek
11-29-2006, 08:54 PM
having said that why would anyone make porn as a teen or early 20s? Once you make one it will be out there forever. I bet Pamela Anderson has her regrets, that's if she or her husband did not deliberately allow it to go missing in the first place to make money out of it.

Also £200-500 to make a porno for 3 hours filming? I know escorts who charge that per hour and keep their privacy