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werwt22
11-05-2006, 06:21 PM
Saddam Hussein was convicted and sentenced Sunday to hang for crimes against humanity in the 1982 killings of 148 people in a single Shiite town, as the ousted leader, trembling and defiant, shouted "God is great!" As he, his half brother and another senior official in his regime were convicted and sentenced to death by the Iraqi High Tribunal, Saddam yelled out, "Long live the people and death to their enemies.

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/World/Iraq

Figured you guys might want to know.

MoonAndStar
11-05-2006, 06:24 PM
prison would have been a better option.... his supporters will now see him as a martyr and start some more shit in his name...

well the whole Iraq sitauation is pretty screwed up another bit of news to add more fuel to an already raging fire in the Mid East....

Bluejay
11-05-2006, 06:40 PM
Now there's a surprise!

shemalejunky
11-05-2006, 07:33 PM
He won't become a martyr since his supporters have been marginalized. And to what cause will he become a martyr?

Isn't this post in the wrong folder?

whatsupwithat
11-05-2006, 08:08 PM
so, what, does that make him a hung devil? ;P



...only took billions of our dollars and thousands of lives and hundreds of lies to the american people.

fuck bush, rumsfeld, cheney, and rice. may they rot in hell.

ztrpt1
11-05-2006, 08:23 PM
...that the verdict had been planned to come down 2 days before the American elections. I guess Karl Rove thought it would be a boost to the Re-puke-licans.

Plus those killings of Saddam kinda pale in comparison to the more than 600,000 Bush has caused to be killed in only 3 years, eh?

hondarobot
11-05-2006, 09:56 PM
...that the verdict had been planned to come down 2 days before the American elections. I guess Karl Rove thought it would be a boost to the Re-puke-licans.

Plus those killings of Saddam kinda pale in comparison to the more than 600,000 Bush has caused to be killed in only 3 years, eh?

Totally a set-up on the Conservatives part, I'm sure they've been waiting for this moment since this whole deal was set in motion. Too bad for them that they didn't factor in meth using closeted clergymen, pedophile representatives, Rush Limbaugh mocking Micheal J Fox. . .

I suppose they didn't count on lots of things. Haha, too bad. Can't wait for election day.

:)

suckseed
11-05-2006, 10:41 PM
Was it a coincidence that the Iraqi president 'ordered' US troops to withdraw from Baghdad checkpoints a few days ago? I'm pretty sure there's a lot more
willingness in D.C. to let the Shia and Sunni folks kill each other over the verdict than our troops. On NPR this morning they interviewed an Iraqi man that said someone he knows is killed every day lately, and people have begun tattooing their address on their bodies so that if they are killed they can be found. He said that with Sadaam, you couldn't see a light at the end of the tunnel, but now, there's not even a tunnel. It's just carnage. And just think, it's all over whether or not some guy that's been dead for thousands of years was The Chosen One! (Don't they realize it was Eddie Murphy?)
Whether or not you believe all this End Times talk (and personally I believe people are making it self-fulfilling), I think religious dogma and rational non-theological (read: Atheist) viewpoints are headin' for a showdown. What's such a shame to me is that if only the US had always acted ethically, then we'd not only not have all these enemies...we'd be better off financially in the long run.
Down with Dogma! Up with Ethics! :roll:

arc angel
11-05-2006, 10:48 PM
let him and G.W.B fight live on HBO before he hangs.... we will se who lives?
The angel of deth gets both there soals.......

ztrpt1
11-05-2006, 11:04 PM
Speaking of which, I seem to recall Saddam Hussein challenging Bush to a debate way back when. Or was it a duel?

Either way, W would lose.

shemalejunky
11-06-2006, 12:24 AM
LOL, it's a big conspiracy! You people are too much.

How in any way would the sentencing of Saddam Hussein help anyone , Dem or Rep., trying to get elected a couple of days from now? Really now.

And that number 600,000....give me a break. I doubt that it has even passed 100,000. Since the fact was that Saddam was good for killing off at least 100,000 of his own people a year, directly or indirectly, that is a pretty good total.

werwt22
11-06-2006, 12:32 AM
IDK...it's all stupid to me. I think its to help Rep. save face from the crap they got us into in Iraq.

11-06-2006, 02:49 AM
...that the verdict had been planned to come down 2 days before the American elections. I guess Karl Rove thought it would be a boost to the Re-puke-licans.

Plus those killings of Saddam kinda pale in comparison to the more than 600,000 Bush has caused to be killed in only 3 years, eh?

Thanks for politicizing this. Shows what a bunch of confused, angry, pitiful people democrats are.

Coroner
11-06-2006, 04:08 AM
...that the verdict had been planned to come down 2 days before the American elections. I guess Karl Rove thought it would be a boost to the Re-puke-licans.

Plus those killings of Saddam kinda pale in comparison to the more than 600,000 Bush has caused to be killed in only 3 years, eh?

Thanks for politicizing this. Shows what a bunch of confused, angry, pitiful people democrats are.

:roll: you should visit europe, amigo :twisted:

bulldog
11-06-2006, 04:55 AM
they should hang him from the empire state building by his balls tied with nylon cord

GroobySteven
11-06-2006, 04:57 AM
they should hang him from the empire state building by his balls tied with nylon cord

Why? What did he ever do to the US or NYC?
seanchai

whatsupwithat
11-06-2006, 05:02 AM
they should hang him from the empire state building by his balls tied with nylon cord

Why? What did he ever do to the US or NYC?
seanchai

Exactly.

Something like 30% of Americans believe Saddam was responsible for 9/11. Un-f*cking-real.

werwt22
11-06-2006, 05:24 AM
"Saddam Sentenced to Death by Hanging"

... below the skirt? Because, if not, you're on the wrong forum.

Ummm no. This was posted under general chat and had nothing to do with politics. Thats just what it turned into.

chefmike
11-06-2006, 07:07 AM
One War Criminal Down, Three to Go

Regardless of whether the "fix" was in - both in its predetermined outcome or its timing (just two days before Americans go to the polls) -- justice prevailed today in, of all places, Iraq, when a court convicted Saddam Hussein of crimes against humanity for the revenge killings of 148 people in the Shiite city of Dujail in 1982.


As reported by Hamza Hendawi of the Associated Press, "The trial brought Saddam and his co-defendants before their accusers in what was one of the most highly publicized and heavily reported trials of its kind since the Nuremberg tribunals for members of Adolf Hitler's Nazi regime and its slaughter of 6 million Jews in the World War II Holocaust."

Yet, few Americans probably know that Article 6 of the Nuremberg Tribunal's Charter listed "Crimes against Peace; namely, planning, preparation, initiation or waging war of aggression" as its first and foremost crime. Count Two indicted the Nazis for actual crimes against peace. Count Three indicted them for "War Crimes," including the ill treatment of civilians and the mistreatment of prisoners of war (such as have occurred at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo in our recent past). "Crimes Against Humanity" was relegated to Count Four.

Thus, notwithstanding the justice meted out to Saddam today, Americans have at least two reasons to reflect while celebrating the outcome: (1) Saddam now has been convicted for crimes that occurred in 1982, just a year before Donald Rumsfeld, acting as an envoy for President Reagan, met and shook hands with him on December 20, 1983. Thus, Americans might ponder how it was that the Reagan administration found it suitable to offer military assistance to such an "evil" criminal.

(2) Much available evidence suggests that the Bush administration planned and prepared the initiation and waging of a war of aggression - the first and foremost crime spelled out in Article 6 of the Nuremberg Charter - while "fixing" the intelligence about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction and ties to al Qaeda's terrorists, in order to deceive both the American people and the U.S. Congress into supporting its illegal, immoral war.

Thus, if justice can be done in war-torn Iraq, it certainly must be done in the great United States of America (and perhaps in lapdog Tony Blair's Great Britain as well). But justice certainly won't be done, so long as Republicans remain in control of Congress.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/walter-c-uhler/saddams-conviction-one-_b_33342.html

BrendaQG
11-06-2006, 07:10 AM
Hurray. After we kill him perhaps somenone 10 times worse can come in and restore order.

werwt22
11-06-2006, 08:19 PM
Ummm no. This was posted under general chat and had nothing to do with politics. Thats just what it turned into.Don't be pissed that I'm the one telling you, just because I've made you look silly before and you now resent me because of it.

LMAO you've never made me look silly and I'm not pissed that you tell me what you tell me. It's the way that you say it. I just don't like the arrogant "I'm mad at the world" attitude you seem to throw in with every comment you make like your trying to offend me and everyone you speak to on purpose. I mean come on....really....how long did it take you to find that pic of the asshole just to make your comment that much more offensive?

11-06-2006, 08:54 PM
they should hang him from the empire state building by his balls tied with nylon cord

Why? What did he ever do to the US or NYC?
seanchai

He threatened American interests.

25 cents. Thanks for playing.

whatsupwithat
11-06-2006, 08:58 PM
they should hang him from the empire state building by his balls tied with nylon cord

Why? What did he ever do to the US or NYC?
seanchai

He threatened American interests.

25 cents. Thanks for playing.

Oh, yeah, huuuuuuge threat. Please.

whatsupwithat
11-06-2006, 09:16 PM
But you were the guy who esentially said, 'TS get what they deserve because their community isn't using the gay community as their role model', or some such BS.

actually, and don't bite my head off, but i kinda' agree with whoever said that in the sense that the gay community mixes their activism with their party culture. i think it'd be great idea to see more of that in the ts community. each of us supporting each other as well as supporting the entire community...and that includes the guys and the girls.

no one else is going to be there for us unless we're there for each other and for ourselves.

SHUTUPNTRAIN
11-06-2006, 10:07 PM
so, what, does that make him a hung devil? ;P


.


LMBO!

Well,he aint no Hung Angel das for sure!

werwt22
11-06-2006, 10:47 PM
Ummm no. This was posted under general chat and had nothing to do with politics. Thats just what it turned into.Don't be pissed that I'm the one telling you, just because I've made you look silly before and you now resent me because of it.

LMAO you've never made me look silly and I'm not pissed that you tell me what you tell me. It's the way that you say it. I just don't like the arrogant "I'm mad at the world" attitude you seem to throw in with every comment you make like your trying to offend me and everyone you speak to on purpose. I mean come on....really....how long did it take you to find that pic of the asshole just to make your comment that much more offensive?You've been here for a while, right? So you would know that the reason these threads were moved was because they don't mix well with porn. You remember porn, right? Honestly, who'd the hell'd wanna talk or think about Saddam Hussein when they're jerking off or fucking?

But you were the guy who esentially said, 'TS get what they deserve because their community isn't using the gay community as their role model', or some such BS. And, when I said that I thought you were wrong to say such a thing, you threw a little tantrum.

And now you're all offended by a pic of my tight lil' she-cootchie? lol Why? Btw, how long do you think it took me to post it? Maybe 3 seconds, if that? You're a big boy now, so I think you'll pull thru'. I mean, you lived thru' "Tubgirl", right? ;)

That wasnt my original arguement. It was someone elses and I just supported some of the points they made but I accept what you say nonetheless. It's all good.

whatsupwithat
11-07-2006, 12:39 AM
actually, and don't bite my head off, but i kinda' agree with whoever said that in the sense that the gay community mixes their activism with their party culture. i think it'd be great idea to see more of that in the ts community. each of us supporting each other as well as supporting the entire community...and that includes the guys and the girls.

no one else is going to be there for us unless we're there for each other and for ourselves.That would be fine if most men who were attracted to TS women were honsest about it, and not keeping it a shameful little secret. If they would stop worrying about if it makes them gay, and would fight for the right to marry us as as easily as they would any other woman, MAYBE it could work. Maybe if they started accepting who they really are, and were proud of us and themselves, they might make "honest women" out of all of us. Well, we're waiting, fellas...

actually, i am fighting for it. online and off. i'm even fighting through my work as a writer.

i am continually reaching out to girls and guys to get them involved in a positive and active way. if you're down for it, i will put you on my list! :)

White_Male_Canada
11-07-2006, 02:31 AM
...that the verdict had been planned to come down 2 days before the American elections. I guess Karl Rove thought it would be a boost to the Re-puke-licans.

Plus those killings of Saddam kinda pale in comparison to the more than 600,000 Bush has caused to be killed in only 3 years, eh?

Quote the specific study that claimed over 600 thousand civilians deaths at the hands of coalitions forces in Iraq.

You know this is a dare. A simple perusal will reveal all about that "study".

White_Male_Canada
11-07-2006, 03:01 AM
they should hang him from the empire state building by his balls tied with nylon cord

Why? What did he ever do to the US or NYC?
seanchai

This according to the left-wing NY Times :

" Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990’s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away."

So the Times have verified that the documents siezed in Iraq afterwards are in fact authentic.

- Iraqi Intelligence document CMPC-2003-005935 that is dated November 22 1999 and it talks about the plan for the year 2000 and that includes the Training of Arab Feedayeens which mean training non Iraqi Foreign Arab Terrorists.

- Document ISGP-2003-00028868 - a top secret memo on how to train and use the Arab Feedaeyeens as Suicide Bombers or as the memo call them “Estishehadeyeen” which means in Arabic “Suicide Martyrs”. The Arab Feedaeyeens are definitely foreigners non Iraqi Arabs who came to Iraq from all over the Middle East and North Africa and they were greatly welcomed by Saddam regime and trained by his military and intelligence apparatus to become Suicide Bombers. The Iraqi Feedaeyeens are known as “Feedaeyeen Saddam” so not to confuse between the two groups.

- Document CMPC-2003-006758.pdf contain a memo form the Iraqi Intelligence Service ( The Apparatus) dated March 28 2001 that talks about plans to “Strike US presence and interest” in response to the new policies of President Bush toward Iraq and that aims at toppling the regime according to the memo.

- Document CMPC-2003-001488 A memo from the Afghan section of the Directorate of Counterintelligence (M5) to the head of M5 dated September 15th, 2001 relays information from an Afghani source that Taliban consul discussed the relationship between Osama, Iraq, and the Taliban.

It`s been documented through various media sources that Iraq was deeply involved in state sponsored terrorism.

- “Abu Mohammed,” a former colonel of Saddam Hussein’s Fedayeen fighters, told reporters long ago that Iraq was training terrorists, including al-Qaeda.

Gwynne Roberts, Sunday Times, July 14, 2002

- Salah Suleiman, revealed that he was a former Iraqi Intelligence officer, captured on the Pakistan/Afghanistan border shuttling between Iraq and Ayman al-Zawahiri.

Janes Foreign Report, 9-19-01

- Abbas al-Janabai, a personal assistant to Uday Hussein for 15 years, has repeatedly stated that there was a connection between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden that included training terrorists at various camps in Iraq.

CNN, 7-23-2003
Gwynne Roberts, Sunday Times, July 14,2002
Richard Miniter, TechCentralStation, 9-25-03

- Farouk Hijazi, former #3 in Saddam Hussein’s Mukhabarat, although he denies the well documented reports of his later meetings with bin Laden, Hijazi admits that he met with Osama bin Laden to discuss antiship mines and terror training camps in Iraq during the mid-90’s.

9-11 Commission, Staff Statement 15

- Abdul Rahman al-Shamari, who served in Saddam Hussein’s Mukhabarat from 1997-2002, says that he worked to link Saddam Hussein regime with Ansar al Islam and al-Qaeda.

Preston Mendenhall, MSNBC, "War Diary"

- Abu Zeinab al-Qurairy , a former high-ranking officer in Iraq’s Mukhabarat, told PBS Frontline and the New York Times that the September 11 attackers were trained in Salman Pak, as were other members of al-Qaeda

PBS Frontline "Gunning For Saddam"

11-07-2006, 03:45 AM
they should hang him from the empire state building by his balls tied with nylon cord

Why? What did he ever do to the US or NYC?
seanchai

This according to the left-wing NY Times :

" Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990’s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away."

So the Times have verified that the documents siezed in Iraq afterwards are in fact authentic.

- Iraqi Intelligence document CMPC-2003-005935 that is dated November 22 1999 and it talks about the plan for the year 2000 and that includes the Training of Arab Feedayeens which mean training non Iraqi Foreign Arab Terrorists.

- Document ISGP-2003-00028868 - a top secret memo on how to train and use the Arab Feedaeyeens as Suicide Bombers or as the memo call them “Estishehadeyeen” which means in Arabic “Suicide Martyrs”. The Arab Feedaeyeens are definitely foreigners non Iraqi Arabs who came to Iraq from all over the Middle East and North Africa and they were greatly welcomed by Saddam regime and trained by his military and intelligence apparatus to become Suicide Bombers. The Iraqi Feedaeyeens are known as “Feedaeyeen Saddam” so not to confuse between the two groups.

- Document CMPC-2003-006758.pdf contain a memo form the Iraqi Intelligence Service ( The Apparatus) dated March 28 2001 that talks about plans to “Strike US presence and interest” in response to the new policies of President Bush toward Iraq and that aims at toppling the regime according to the memo.

- Document CMPC-2003-001488 A memo from the Afghan section of the Directorate of Counterintelligence (M5) to the head of M5 dated September 15th, 2001 relays information from an Afghani source that Taliban consul discussed the relationship between Osama, Iraq, and the Taliban.

It`s been documented through various media sources that Iraq was deeply involved in state sponsored terrorism.

- “Abu Mohammed,” a former colonel of Saddam Hussein’s Fedayeen fighters, told reporters long ago that Iraq was training terrorists, including al-Qaeda.

Gwynne Roberts, Sunday Times, July 14, 2002

- Salah Suleiman, revealed that he was a former Iraqi Intelligence officer, captured on the Pakistan/Afghanistan border shuttling between Iraq and Ayman al-Zawahiri.

Janes Foreign Report, 9-19-01

- Abbas al-Janabai, a personal assistant to Uday Hussein for 15 years, has repeatedly stated that there was a connection between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden that included training terrorists at various camps in Iraq.

CNN, 7-23-2003
Gwynne Roberts, Sunday Times, July 14,2002
Richard Miniter, TechCentralStation, 9-25-03

- Farouk Hijazi, former #3 in Saddam Hussein’s Mukhabarat, although he denies the well documented reports of his later meetings with bin Laden, Hijazi admits that he met with Osama bin Laden to discuss antiship mines and terror training camps in Iraq during the mid-90’s.

9-11 Commission, Staff Statement 15

- Abdul Rahman al-Shamari, who served in Saddam Hussein’s Mukhabarat from 1997-2002, says that he worked to link Saddam Hussein regime with Ansar al Islam and al-Qaeda.

Preston Mendenhall, MSNBC, "War Diary"

- Abu Zeinab al-Qurairy , a former high-ranking officer in Iraq’s Mukhabarat, told PBS Frontline and the New York Times that the September 11 attackers were trained in Salman Pak, as were other members of al-Qaeda

PBS Frontline "Gunning For Saddam"

Thanks WM. I'll telling the boss to give you a raise. Remind me when we get back to RNC headquarters to pick up our checks.

It does no good to make the points. That's why I just say "Threatened American interests". Especially when replying to the hate-bush children that pollute this message board.

"Threatened American Interests". That says it all and yet, says just enough to piss off the dhimmi's. For them, the only correct reply would be "They nuked Chicago".... which must be what they're waiting to hear.

SHUTUPNTRAIN
11-07-2006, 07:38 PM
I am a true believer in What goes around comes around.
Which is why I do my best to follow the Golden rule...I dont really feel sorry for saddam...I think he got what was comin to him......I aint pushin for him to die but I aint pushin for him to go free either.....I think he will get what he deserves.

White_Male_Canada
11-07-2006, 08:22 PM
they should hang him from the empire state building by his balls tied with nylon cord

Why? What did he ever do to the US or NYC?
seanchai

This according to the left-wing NY Times :

" Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990’s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away."

So the Times have verified that the documents siezed in Iraq afterwards are in fact authentic.

- Iraqi Intelligence document CMPC-2003-005935 that is dated November 22 1999 and it talks about the plan for the year 2000 and that includes the Training of Arab Feedayeens which mean training non Iraqi Foreign Arab Terrorists.

- Document ISGP-2003-00028868 - a top secret memo on how to train and use the Arab Feedaeyeens as Suicide Bombers or as the memo call them “Estishehadeyeen” which means in Arabic “Suicide Martyrs”. The Arab Feedaeyeens are definitely foreigners non Iraqi Arabs who came to Iraq from all over the Middle East and North Africa and they were greatly welcomed by Saddam regime and trained by his military and intelligence apparatus to become Suicide Bombers. The Iraqi Feedaeyeens are known as “Feedaeyeen Saddam” so not to confuse between the two groups.

- Document CMPC-2003-006758.pdf contain a memo form the Iraqi Intelligence Service ( The Apparatus) dated March 28 2001 that talks about plans to “Strike US presence and interest” in response to the new policies of President Bush toward Iraq and that aims at toppling the regime according to the memo.

- Document CMPC-2003-001488 A memo from the Afghan section of the Directorate of Counterintelligence (M5) to the head of M5 dated September 15th, 2001 relays information from an Afghani source that Taliban consul discussed the relationship between Osama, Iraq, and the Taliban.

It`s been documented through various media sources that Iraq was deeply involved in state sponsored terrorism.

- “Abu Mohammed,” a former colonel of Saddam Hussein’s Fedayeen fighters, told reporters long ago that Iraq was training terrorists, including al-Qaeda.

Gwynne Roberts, Sunday Times, July 14, 2002

- Salah Suleiman, revealed that he was a former Iraqi Intelligence officer, captured on the Pakistan/Afghanistan border shuttling between Iraq and Ayman al-Zawahiri.

Janes Foreign Report, 9-19-01

- Abbas al-Janabai, a personal assistant to Uday Hussein for 15 years, has repeatedly stated that there was a connection between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden that included training terrorists at various camps in Iraq.

CNN, 7-23-2003
Gwynne Roberts, Sunday Times, July 14,2002
Richard Miniter, TechCentralStation, 9-25-03

- Farouk Hijazi, former #3 in Saddam Hussein’s Mukhabarat, although he denies the well documented reports of his later meetings with bin Laden, Hijazi admits that he met with Osama bin Laden to discuss antiship mines and terror training camps in Iraq during the mid-90’s.

9-11 Commission, Staff Statement 15

- Abdul Rahman al-Shamari, who served in Saddam Hussein’s Mukhabarat from 1997-2002, says that he worked to link Saddam Hussein regime with Ansar al Islam and al-Qaeda.

Preston Mendenhall, MSNBC, "War Diary"

- Abu Zeinab al-Qurairy , a former high-ranking officer in Iraq’s Mukhabarat, told PBS Frontline and the New York Times that the September 11 attackers were trained in Salman Pak, as were other members of al-Qaeda

PBS Frontline "Gunning For Saddam"

Thanks WM. I'll telling the boss to give you a raise. Remind me when we get back to RNC headquarters to pick up our checks.

It does no good to make the points. That's why I just say "Threatened American interests". Especially when replying to the hate-bush children that pollute this message board.

"Threatened American Interests". That says it all and yet, says just enough to piss off the dhimmi's. For them, the only correct reply would be "They nuked Chicago".... which must be what they're waiting to hear.

Hey,don`t forget.

Deposit mine in my Cayman account ok, # 6893726456967.

I mean, everyone knows we capatilist pigs don`t pay taxes.

chefmike
11-09-2006, 12:03 AM
:roll: