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bulldog
11-01-2006, 09:00 PM
First what is the difference between, shemales, transvestites, transexuals, and hermaphrodites?

Second, are they all guys who decided to "convert" to being a woman, or are they girls who were just born with the wrong equipment?

Third, why the fuck are they so damn attractive?


Ben

themaster
11-01-2006, 09:32 PM
I hope this doesn't sound rude, but you should of googled first.

bulldog
11-01-2006, 10:04 PM
i have done that and more, and it still doesn't give me a difinitive answer

peggygee
11-01-2006, 10:38 PM
Oy vey :roll:

Mein Gott In Himmel !

Even 'I', am not going to answer that one. :smh

But, 'rookie', I will say you are starting out on the wrong foot,
in more ways than one :frustrated

bulldog
11-01-2006, 11:20 PM
wtf do you mean starting out on the wrong foot? what do you want me to do, interview a shemale?
I am just asking because I do not know, not because I am trying to be rude, in fact it would help clear a lot of things up for me

Teabagger Vance
11-02-2006, 12:01 AM
wtf do you mean starting out on the wrong foot? what do you want me to do, interview a shemale?
I am just asking because I do not know, not because I am trying to be rude, in fact it would help clear a lot of things up for me

I don't know that I would consider this to be definitive, but it should point you into the right direction: http://www.vickirichter.com/glossary.htm

You should find some answers there.

As to your second question, there isn't a single, correct answer that can be applied to all transgendered women. Indeed, some are men who transition only for the financial benefit (porn, escorting). Also, there are many more who self-identify as females. And they want their physical self to match how they see themselves on the inside. There are others out there who are sort of mixed up chromosomally. They aren't simply XY or XX. I think there are some transgendered girls out there who are XXY.

On your third question: why ask why? :)

peggygee
11-02-2006, 01:13 AM
wtf do you mean starting out on the wrong foot? what do you want me to do, interview a shemale?
I am just asking because I do not know, not because I am trying to be rude, in fact it would help clear a lot of things up for me

Son, I would admonish you to watch your tone with me, and thus chose your words more carefully.

BrendaQG
11-02-2006, 01:58 AM
A1.) Self Identification is mostly the difference.

A2.)As most TS's will tell you this is not a decision it is a requierment. Even if one tried with all their might to fight this condition it would just pull them back in.

A3.)Not all TS's are so attractive. Consider the ones who waited untill they had kids, and a career and were 40+ when the first estrogen supplement entered their system.

ARMANIXXX
11-02-2006, 04:36 AM
LOL.

OP would probably have had less resistance with the noobie obligatory "Am I gay" post.

lol

bulldog
11-02-2006, 06:10 PM
I know that I am not gay armanixxx, and I am comfortable with myself being attracted to shemale, tv, etc...

ezed
11-03-2006, 06:18 AM
First what is the difference between, shemales, transvestites, transexuals, and hermaphrodites?

Second, are they all guys who decided to "convert" to being a woman, or are they girls who were just born with the wrong equipment?

Third, why the fuck are they so damn attractive?


Ben

Ben, to totally repond to your request would require a thesis. Which has been written many times on this site and others. I'd rather argue, tell jokes, insult retards and check out the new picks. I can't speak for everyone, but all your answers are at your finger tips if you wish to do the research. If Jamie was around I'm sure she post a slanted thesis, has she seems to have the Library of Congress index at her finger tips.

My advice, if you like what you see, engage them, meet them, talk to them. Don't question the label. Meet the person, decide if you like them.
What would have happened if Christopher Columbus and Leif Erickson had just put messages in a bottle asking "Hey, what's its like where you live?" and tossed them in the ocean?

bulldog
11-03-2006, 07:21 AM
alright, how many attractive shemales/tv/trans/etc, can you name that live in WISCONSIN, in fact have many can you name period, it seems that just like always Wisconsin is left out again on some of the best things, and I know what some of you out there are gonna say, move you dummy, well its not that simple, I am just starting out in life and am about to get a place of my own (a real shithole I imagine) and cant afford to go to NY or FL or any of those wonderful places to meet any of these people, and some of you are probably thinking that I am trying for sympathy or pity....save it, I dont need it.


P.S. I am not trying to bite anybodies head off I am just trying to cover all basis of the arguement

ezed
11-03-2006, 07:25 AM
alright, how many attractive shemales/tv/trans/etc, can you name that live in WISCONSIN, in fact have many can you name period, it seems that just like always Wisconsin is left out again on some of the best things, and I know what some of you out there are gonna say, move you dummy, well its not that simple, I am just starting out in life and am about to get a place of my own (a real shithole I imagine) and cant afford to go to NY or FL or any of those wonderful places to meet any of these people, and some of you are probably thinking that I am trying for sympathy or pity....save it, I dont need it.


P.S. I am not trying to bite anybodies head off I am just trying to cover all basis of the arguement

Have you seen Ms-T on this site, do you have a car? You're not looking hard enough.

ezed
11-03-2006, 07:27 AM
She's here now. Talk to her. She lists WI :?

bulldog
11-03-2006, 07:33 AM
Ms-T? did she log off already cuz I just looked at whos online and she wasnt there

blckhaze
11-03-2006, 07:51 AM
well #1 and #2 are touchy subjects and more a region the ladies of the board to answer.

For #3, to me, TS are women born with different eqquipment. yes there are a good number of girls that everyone likes, but for the most part, everyone has their own tastes. I might like a girl, while you wont. Thats nature. if we all liked the same type of women, there would a lot less of us around. Like ezed said, go out and find your type of girl. Being in WI is a disadvantage, but if you can save up for a trip, do your research, and see a girl. Chances are youll like it. I loved my first experiance, and wished i was able to do it earlier. Yes theyre are bad apples, TS, GG, and guys, that can ruin it, but for the most part, youll have a good time. You never know until you try.

ezed
11-04-2006, 04:15 AM
Ms-T? did she log off already cuz I just looked at whos online and she wasnt there

Look her up. PM her. she'll get the message.
:?

Ms_T
11-08-2006, 02:49 PM
Ms-T? did she log off already cuz I just looked at whos online and she wasnt there

Look her up. PM her. she'll get the message.
:?


he got me :D thanks for the reference :D

wombat33
11-08-2006, 03:28 PM
wtf do you mean starting out on the wrong foot? what do you want me to do, interview a shemale?
I am just asking because I do not know, not because I am trying to be rude, in fact it would help clear a lot of things up for me


Good for you. There are people on here for years and this is obviously a new thrill for you. If people are going to be snippy and full of themself and give you "know it all" answers, you should give them some shit back!!!


In short.......to the best of my knowledge:

Transvestite : Men who dress in women's clothes and can be straight or gay or bi

Hermaphrodite: Born with both sexes a penis and vagine, usually one is more pronounced and some times parents make a decision to remove one at a young age and decide for the person what they will be.

Transexual can be a man who converts to a woman or a woman who converts to a man. In most cases I imagine it is a man becoming a woman by any means of hormones, surgery, lifestyle changes and so on.

SOme of the most beautiful woman I have ever seen are transexuals, I can't say the same for transvestines.

On a side note, I would LOVE to be with a hermaphrodite and enjoy both of thier sexes. Imagine the pure pleasure of getting fucked in your pussy, and fingered in the ass while your dick is being sucked at the same time


Hope this helps some what.

ezed
11-09-2006, 06:23 AM
Ms-T? did she log off already cuz I just looked at whos online and she wasnt there

Look her up. PM her. she'll get the message.
:?


he got me :D thanks for the reference :D

No problem, you seem like a hot tamale and the boy needs a little push. I wish I was in your area, I could use a little push, so to speak. But if you come to Boston, let me know. :wink:

peggygee
11-09-2006, 08:57 AM
First what is the difference between, shemales, transvestites, transexuals, and hermaphrodites?

Second, are they all guys who decided to "convert" to being a woman, or are they girls who were just born with the wrong equipment?

Third, why the fuck are they so damn attractive?


peggygee
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Oy vey

Mein Gott In Himmel !

Even 'I', am not going to answer that one.

But, 'rookie', I will say you are starting out on the wrong foot,
in more ways than one
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bulldog
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Joined: 28 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:20 pm Post subject:

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wtf do you mean starting out on the wrong foot? what do you want me to do, interview a shemale?
I am just asking because I do not know, not because I am trying to be rude, in fact it would help clear a lot of things up for me


peggygee
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Joined: 15 Sep 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:13 pm Post subject:

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bulldog wrote:
wtf do you mean starting out on the wrong foot? what do you want me to do, interview a shemale?
I am just asking because I do not know, not because I am trying to be rude, in fact it would help clear a lot of things up for me


Son, I would admonish you to watch your tone with me, and thus chose your words more carefully.
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But Knowledge Is Power !!


wombat33
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Location: nyc

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:28 pm Post subject:

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bulldog wrote:
wtf do you mean starting out on the wrong foot? what do you want me to do, interview a shemale?
I am just asking because I do not know, not because I am trying to be rude, in fact it would help clear a lot of things up for me



Good for you. There are people on here for years and this is obviously a new thrill for you. If people are going to be snippy and full of themself and give you "know it all" answers, you should give them some shit back!!!


In short.......to the best of my knowledge:

Transvestite : Men who dress in women's clothes and can be straight or gay or bi

Hermaphrodite: Born with both sexes a penis and vagine, usually one is more pronounced and some times parents make a decision to remove one at a young age and decide for the person what they will be.

Transexual can be a man who converts to a woman or a woman who converts to a man. In most cases I imagine it is a man becoming a woman by any means of hormones, surgery, lifestyle changes and so on.

SOme of the most beautiful woman I have ever seen are transexuals, I can't say the same for transvestines.

On a side note, I would LOVE to be with a hermaphrodite and enjoy both of thier sexes. Imagine the pure pleasure of getting fucked in your pussy, and fingered in the ass while your dick is being sucked at the same time


Hope this helps some what.



Ben


When one joins a forum, it is proper forum etiquete to do a search of prior forum questions to see if your question has been asked and answered previously.

Failing that, googling or doing a search on the Net for the answers is another way to go. Thus, when you do make an inquiry you will have some cursory knowledge of the subject area.

Then, too there is an adage that states that it isn't what you say, but rather how you say it.

Having said that lack of knowledge on a subject, is not in and of itself a bad thing. And I applaud people who are attempting to enhance their knowledge base.

In my humble opinion, the 'bulldogs' question struck me as very poorly phrased and indeed one whose answer was readily availible in countless venues, including previous HA questions.

I saw the question, made a joke about it, and it was a done issue for me.

However, being from Oskosh, Wisconsin population of 62,000, with 99.02% of that being of one ethnic demographic http://oshkosh.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm , he may not have gotten the jist of my wry Yiddish flavored humor, thus his response:

wtf do you mean starting out on the wrong foot? what do you want me to do, interview a shemale? I am just asking because I do not know, not because I am trying to be rude, in fact it would help clear a lot of things up for me

Now I realize, that the 'bulldog' may be just a puppy. And I assuredly am a old dog, and young pups will try an old dog, and quiet as it's kept, I might have to take my teeth out at night. And I really would prefer to just bark at the young pup, but hey, with that response I had to put my teeth back in, and show him who the Alpha female of the pack was.

It's llike when a new puppy comes to the house, its going to be shitting everywhere, chewing on shoes, basically misbehaving, so sometimes you have to rub their noses in their fecal matter, or smack them on the rump to correct their behavior.

To me putting, wtf and shemale, in the same sentence was the puppy misbehaving. :smh

For contrary to what the porn industry may have you believe, shemale is a deragatory and perjorative term, and we know what 'wtf' means.

As a transwoman of color, 'shemale', is as troublesome and offensive to me as the 'N' word. That some transwomen or members of my race will use those words does not render it any less troublesome, to me.

Then too, your 2nd question, kinda sent the fur flying as well:

Second, are they all guys who decided to "convert" to being a woman, or are they girls who were just born with the wrong equipment?

Well, I am going to try and wrap soon, as I need to go bury a bone, get my stomach rubbed, jump in someones lap, wag my tail, hell I may even lick myself :twisted: Not bad for an old dog, huh?

I will say if you really truly are a seeker of knowledge on this subject, I am a fount of knowledge, and really do love to share it.

I have lived fulltime as a female 30 years, 10 as a post op. I have a tremendous amount of personal knowledge of the area, and have done copious amounts of formal research and training on the subject.

And just to show that I am fond of young pups, and Australian Marsupials( they both are cute and cuddly :) , I would suggest you review your definitions of hermaphrodite, try entering: Intersex, Klinefelters Syndrome, XXY chromosomes, Disorders of Sex Development" (DSD), as search terms.

Be forewarned though that your preconceptions, fueled by the porn industry may not be 'spot on' vis a vis, hermaphrodites.

Indeed attempting to garner all of your information from porn sites may not be the best course of action.

Good luck 8)

123sonny
11-09-2006, 01:47 PM
Hey,

I been readin up on it and I joined y'day too.
I guess you should do a search mate. I tried to do one on my MAIN 2 questions (1. would a T -girl get upset if she was visited but her privates were not played with AND 2. Do most t-girls have deep voices)
and I still couldn't get a proper response.

I'm use to pc/camera etc. forums where folks just shout out Questions but over here you gotte be a lil sensitive.

I still aint got any conclusive answers yet.

hondarobot
11-09-2006, 03:51 PM
Hey,

I been readin up on it and I joined y'day too.
I guess you should do a search mate. I tried to do one on my MAIN 2 questions (1. would a T -girl get upset if she was visited but her privates were not played with AND 2. Do most t-girls have deep voices)
and I still couldn't get a proper response.

I'm use to pc/camera etc. forums where folks just shout out Questions but over here you gotte be a lil sensitive.

I still aint got any conclusive answers yet.

Still hanging in there, 123sonny? Good job. Here's the answers to your questions:

1. No escort will want to kiss you, at least not in the situation of you being a new client and her being on the job. Cuddle with you or just hang out and chat? Probably yes, that would be pretty easy money from the girls prospective. But get over the kissing/making out part. Escorts don't give that level of intimacy/romance to clients, and you can't blame 'em for that. If you devised some form of lip condom, then it might fall into some sort of kink catagory and maybe you'd get away with it. . . but a "lip condom" would honestly just be a bit weird.

2. Most ts girls have somewhat deep voices. I'm sure none of them like having deep voices, so stop bringing it up.

Bonus answers:

3. Vaniity isn't talked about much here because a guy known as Geekmeat pretty much dominated and exhausted interest in that subject (and then he got banned, and I'm still not sure why because I missed the actual banning). Geekmeat smothered the topic of Vaniity with obsessive kookiness, posted her pics all the time, rambled on about her videos, announced whatever she happened to be doing at any time, it was annoying.

For her part, Vaniity did nothing to discourage his behavior, and in the process Geekmeat was essentially destroyed and got nothing for his efforts. Sad story but he did it to himself.

4. GG means "genetic girl", as in a non ts girl. Kinda a silly term but we appear to be stuck with it.

5. "I'm use to pc/camera etc. forums where folks just shout out Questions but over here you gotte be a lil sensitive."

Hahahahah! And it's only your second day here. You poor basard. . . live and learn.

8)

bulldog
11-09-2006, 03:52 PM
well I can help you somewhat, from what I can tell a lot of t-girls want romance not just sex, although there are some that are interested in just that, and the deep voice thing, lots of them have deeper voices but some have really femanine<(or however you spell it) voices, I do know that you can have surgery to get a softer gentler voice

123sonny
11-09-2006, 08:23 PM
Ok thanks for the reply. I 'm not saying the deep voices are not sexy , I just wanted to know.

By the way, I wanna thank all the cool people on this site. Special thanks to Beardman & Honda.
I just met up with a gal today, we got on and I've got a smile as wide as the moon.

They don't "kiss and cuddle" ? lol. they do mate!

ARMANIXXX
11-12-2006, 03:36 AM
Hey,

I been readin up on it and I joined y'day too.
I guess you should do a search mate. I tried to do one on my MAIN 2 questions (1. would a T -girl get upset if she was visited but her privates were not played with AND 2. Do most t-girls have deep voices)
and I still couldn't get a proper response.

I'm use to pc/camera etc. forums where folks just shout out Questions but over here you gotte be a lil sensitive.

I still aint got any conclusive answers yet.

Still hanging in there, 123sonny? Good job. Here's the answers to your questions:

1. No escort will want to kiss you, at least not in the situation of you being a new client and her being on the job. Cuddle with you or just hang out and chat? Probably yes, that would be pretty easy money from the girls prospective. But get over the kissing/making out part. Escorts don't give that level of intimacy/romance to clients, and you can't blame 'em for that. If you devised some form of lip condom, then it might fall into some sort of kink catagory and maybe you'd get away with it. . . but a "lip condom" would honestly just be a bit weird.

2. Most ts girls have somewhat deep voices. I'm sure none of them like having deep voices, so stop bringing it up.

Bonus answers:

3. Vaniity isn't talked about much here because a guy known as Geekmeat pretty much dominated and exhausted interest in that subject (and then he got banned, and I'm still not sure why because I missed the actual banning). Geekmeat smothered the topic of Vaniity with obsessive kookiness, posted her pics all the time, rambled on about her videos, announced whatever she happened to be doing at any time, it was annoying.

For her part, Vaniity did nothing to discourage his behavior, and in the process Geekmeat was essentially destroyed and got nothing for his efforts. Sad story but he did it to himself.

4. GG means "genetic girl", as in a non ts girl. Kinda a silly term but we appear to be stuck with it.

5. "I'm use to pc/camera etc. forums where folks just shout out Questions but over here you gotte be a lil sensitive."

Hahahahah! And it's only your second day here. You poor basard. . . live and learn.

8)


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Sometimes I wonder where/how some people get their info.


Some girls kiss and some do not. Some are conditional kissers ( example, she likes the way you look), some are not.

Make sure you ask about the kissing BEFORE you hand over any money. In fact, make a list on paper of ALL the things you want and don't want and ask BEFORE giving money.

PumpDaddy
11-12-2006, 04:28 AM
Make sure you ask about the kissing BEFORE you hand over any money. In fact, make a list on paper of ALL the things you want and don't want and ask BEFORE giving money.

I thought everything was free for you because, nauseatingly, by your own words of each and every post you write, on every TS message board on the net that I've ever seen, you're so handsome, buff, and chocolate? Meanwhile, you never post a picture though directly asked to on numerous occassions by many board members on different message boards. How odd.

ARMANIXXX
11-12-2006, 04:33 AM
Make sure you ask about the kissing BEFORE you hand over any money. In fact, make a list on paper of ALL the things you want and don't want and ask BEFORE giving money.

I thought everything was free for you because, nauseatingly, by your own words of each and every post you write, on every TS message board on the net that I've ever seen, you're so handsome, buff, and chocolate? Meanwhile, you never post a picture though directly asked to on numerous occassions by many board members on different message boards. How odd.

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Seems as if I've acquired a fan. Nice. 8)

PumpDaddy
11-12-2006, 04:38 AM
Make sure you ask about the kissing BEFORE you hand over any money. In fact, make a list on paper of ALL the things you want and don't want and ask BEFORE giving money.

I thought everything was free for you because, nauseatingly, by your own words of each and every post you write, on every TS message board on the net that I've ever seen, you're so handsome, buff, and chocolate? Meanwhile, you never post a picture though directly asked to on numerous occassions by many board members on different message boards. How odd.

__________________________________________________ ________________________


Seems as if I've acquired a fan. Nice. 8)

When you're the self-professed biggest stud on the planet, you have to expect having an entourage. We're all hanging on your coat-tails in hopes of snagging some of the crumbs that fall from the master's table.

ARMANIXXX
11-12-2006, 04:54 AM
Make sure you ask about the kissing BEFORE you hand over any money. In fact, make a list on paper of ALL the things you want and don't want and ask BEFORE giving money.

I thought everything was free for you because, nauseatingly, by your own words of each and every post you write, on every TS message board on the net that I've ever seen, you're so handsome, buff, and chocolate? Meanwhile, you never post a picture though directly asked to on numerous occassions by many board members on different message boards. How odd.

__________________________________________________ ________________________


Seems as if I've acquired a fan. Nice. 8)

When you're the self-professed biggest stud on the planet, you have to expect having an entourage. We're all hanging on your coat-tails in hopes of snagging some of the crumbs that fall from the master's table.


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lol

I'll see what I can do for you bro. :lol: