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Wi Spa controversy
June 24, 2021

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On June 24, 2021, a cisgender woman claimed that an unknown individual with a penis, most commonly believed to be a trans woman, was allowed nude inside Wi Spa, a Korean spa located in Los Angeles, California. Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi_Spa_controversy)




Date: June 24, 2021



Location: Koreatown (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-us&sxsrf=ALeKk01j5fSQtmdzP1RHuf4mw6S1s7VSqw:162954223 9689&q=Koreatown,+Los+Angeles&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOPgE-LVT9c3NMyrKMiwKMoyVuLUz9U3MLIwScvTkshOttIvycxN1U8t S80rscrJT04syczPM1rEKuadX5SaWJJfnqej4JNfrOCYl56ak1 q8g5URAA4zWplSAAAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi19t7y9cHyAhU6FjQIHVvBBMEQmxMoADAEegQIC BAC)

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A trans woman reportedly undressed in a spa. Customers said they were ‘traumatized,’ and a protest ensued.

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People getting Stabbed, Fox News and many other right wing news outlets cause the story to go Viral.

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Facebook censoring trans women (or Donald Trump), but allowing the Talibans post their insanity and Dictators Maduro and Castro bragging about killing their People.

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PROTESTS (https://www.nbclosangeles.com/tag/protests/)

Viral Video of Client Complaining About Trans Woman in LA Spa Sparks Protests

The incident occurred last weekend at Wi Spa at 2700 Wilshire Blvd



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https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/viral-video-wi-spa-koreatown/2631037/ (https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/viral-video-wi-spa-koreatown/2631037/)

People clashed Saturday during dueling demonstrations fueled by a viral video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VRaC-tFCEM) posted by a woman upset that a person who identified as a trans female was allowed to disrobe in the women's section of an upscale Koreatown spa.
The incident occurred last weekend at Wi Spa at 2700 Wilshire Blvd. The irate customer posted the video on Instagram, and it quickly drew widespread exposure and support from many others on the site.

The woman can be heard complaining to a staff member at the counter of the establishment. “So, it's OK for a man to go into the women's section, show his penis around the other women, young little girls -- underage -- in your spa? Wi Spa condones that, is that what you're saying?” she asks.
Another customer tells the woman to go somewhere else if she's offended. “You go somewhere else!” she replies. “You go somewhere else!”


Another male customer attempts to defend the trans person, who is not seen in the video, but the woman isn't convinced. “He's a man. He is a man. He is not no female,” she says.
Another customer can also be heard complaining and asking for her money back.
Wi Spa defended its policy in a statement to Los Angeles Magazine.
“Like many other metropolitan areas, Los Angeles contains a transgender population, some of whom enjoy visiting a spa,” the statement said. “Wi Spa strives to meet the needs of all its customers.”






A protest was scheduled for 11 a.m. Saturday in front of the business by those opposed to the policy, but supporters of trans rights with the group SoCal Antifa planned to show up two hours earlier for a “No Bigotry in L.A.” rally.
And solidarity demonstrations supporting the trans community were also planned Saturday and Sunday at nearby MacArthur Park.

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People clashed Saturday during dueling demonstrations fueled by a viral video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VRaC-tFCEM) posted by a woman upset that a person who identified as a trans female was allowed to disrobe in the women's section of an upscale Koreatown spa.
The incident occurred last weekend at Wi Spa at 2700 Wilshire Blvd. The irate customer posted the video on Instagram, and it quickly drew widespread exposure and support from many others on the site.

The woman can be heard complaining to a staff member at the counter of the establishment. “So, it's OK for a man to go into the women's section, show his penis around the other women, young little girls -- underage -- in your spa? Wi Spa condones that, is that what you're saying?” she asks. Another customer tells the woman to go somewhere else if she's offended. “You go somewhere else!” she replies. “You go somewhere else!”



Another male customer attempts to defend the trans person, who is not seen in the video, but the woman isn't convinced. “He's a man. He is a man. He is not no female,” she says.



Another customer can also be heard complaining and asking for her money back.


Wi Spa defended its policy in a statement to Los Angeles Magazine.


“Like many other metropolitan areas, Los Angeles contains a transgender population, some of whom enjoy visiting a spa,” the statement said. “Wi Spa strives to meet the needs of all its customers.”




A protest was scheduled for 11 a.m. Saturday in front of the business by those opposed to the policy, but supporters of trans rights with the group SoCal Antifa planned to show up two hours earlier for a “No Bigotry in L.A.” rally.
And solidarity demonstrations supporting the trans community were also planned Saturday and Sunday at nearby MacArthur Park.

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Dozens arrested in Los Angeles as anti-trans protest outside spa turns



Wi Spa, a Koreatown business with a trans-inclusive policy, has become the target of a rightwing media storm

Dozens of people have been arrested in Los Angeles (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/los-angeles) following a chaotic and at times violent demonstration by anti-transgender protesters who targeted a Koreatown spa that has a trans-inclusive policy allowing trans women to use women’s facilities.
Saturday marked the second weekend of violent protests this month in the streets around Wi Spa, a neighborhood business that has found itself at the heart of a right-wing media storm over an alleged incident in which a customer filmed herself complaining about a trans woman in the women’s area of the spa.


The far-right protesters called for a boycott of Wi Spa and chanted baseless claims about paedophilia, as women carrying signs reading “protect female spaces” and “It’s worse in women’s shelters” marched alongside men wearing helmets and masks that covered their faces.
Calls to defend “female spaces” and “women’s shelters” have become rallying cries of anti-trans groups, who have falsely suggested that trans-inclusive policies endanger cis women. California has for years had laws in place that allow trans people to use facilities that match their gender.
The chants and signs in Los Angeles on Saturday highlighted the convergence of anti-trans activism with other strains of far-right activism. Many demonstrators chanted “Save our children,” a slogan taken up by QAnon conspiracy theorists (https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/qanon-looms-behind-nationwide-rallies-viral-hashtags-n1237722), whose ideology is centered on an elaborate narrative about a cabal of influential paedophiles. Other demonstrators wore shirts pledging to murder leftwing activists, with reference to rightwing death squads in Chile in the 1970s. Arthur Schaper, the leader of the California chapter of MassResistance, an anti-LGBT organization that the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) classifies as a hate group, arrived early at the protest outside Wi Spa and took refuge behind a line of police officers as trans rights protesters heckled him.
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</figure>For hours on Saturday, the neighborhood around Wi Spa was filled with lines of police in riot helmets and clashes between police and protesters, with reports of less-lethal weapons being used against the trans rights and anti-fascist activists who showed up as part of a counter-protest against the far-right demonstrators. The volatile protests, in the middle of an ordinary Saturday, left some passers-by confused and fearful.


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A Los Angeles police department spokesperson said police made several dozen arrests for failure to disperse after declaring an unlawful assembly shortly after 11am. LAPD also appeared to fire (https://twitter.com/waterspider__/status/1416461162707755010)rubber bullets at trans rights demonstrators from a close distance, despite a recent judge’s ruling (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/22/los-angeles-protest-mayor-police-budget-increase) restricting the department’s use of certain “less lethal” projectile launchers against protesters. A Guardian journalist who tried to interview far-right protesters was chased, pushed, and shoved to the ground.
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</figure>Footage also showed LAPD officers taking a trans flag (https://twitter.com/VPS_Reports/status/1416539339773734915) from demonstrators, and the police department later posted a photo (https://twitter.com/LAPDHQ/status/1416535236389728256/photo/3) of a rainbow-painted piece of wood left behind, claiming it was some kind of violation.

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Far-right groups and Republicans legislators have over the past year increasingly targeted trans people as part of a broader culture war, with anti-LGBTQ campaigns and a series of anti-trans state bills, including legislation targeting medical care for trans youth and attempting to prevent trans girls from participating in women’s sports.
The US rightwing media have spent several weeks turning the inclusive policy of a local Korean spa into national news. Tucker Carlson’s Fox News show put the spotlight on Wi Spa (https://www.foxnews.com/media/lgbtq-community-appalled-after-transgender-exposes-male-genitalia-in-front-of-young-girls-at-la-spa) in late June, highlighting a viral video of the customer who complained to spa employees (https://www.foxnews.com/media/lgbtq-community-appalled-after-transgender-exposes-male-genitalia-in-front-of-young-girls-at-la-spa) . In the video, spa employees politely reiterated the business’ non-discrimination policies and compliance with the law, as the customer argued, “There’s no such thing as transgender.”
A Los Angeles LBGT newspaper later reported that there were questions about the veracity of the allegations (https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/07/wi-spa-la-transphobic-protest.html) in the viral video, and that it was not clear if any transgender customers were even present (https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/07/wi-spa-la-transphobic-protest.html)in the spa when the video was filmed.
The following Saturday, 3 July, saw violent clashes around the spa (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-03/lapd-declares-unlawful-assembly-protests-koreatown-transgender-rights) as anti-trans demonstrators showed up to protest Wi Spa, and local trans rights and anti-fascist activists showed up to defend it. Police said they made no arrests during the first round of chaotic protests, despite several violent attacks captured on video (https://twitter.com/SamBraslow/status/1411381618065825794).

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Amber Hooper, from Orange County, had watched the violence in early July in shock, and had decided to come to Wi Spa with a friend for the second counter-protest on Saturday 17 July, after local activists said far-right demonstrators were planning to return. The friends said they wanted to represent their community, and were hoping the violence would stop.
It was frustrating to see that “the people who talk about law and order are against the laws that protect trans people,” Hooper said. “Trans rights are human rights.”
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</figure>Jamie Penn, a neighborhood activist and medic, said that the trans rights demonstrators wanted to protect the spa and its business, but that the spa itself was trying to remain neutral, and that it seemed to want the whole situation to go away.

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Wi Spa did not immediately reply to a request for comment on the ongoing protests. “Like many other metropolitan areas, Los Angeles contains a transgender population, some of whom enjoy visiting a spa,” Wi Spa had said in a statement to Los Angeles Magazine (https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/wi-spa-video/)in late June, noting that California law bars businesses from discriminating against trans people. “Wi Spa strives to meet the needs of all its customers.”
Southern California has long been a center of rightwing extremism, including violent pro-Trump demonstrations, militia groups, activists links to QAnon, and white supremacist organizations, and many of the California defendants charged with participating in the 6 January pro-Trump insurrection at the US capitol came from Los Angeles and surrounding cities (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/25/beverly-hills-arrests-us-capitol-attack).
LAPD has faced intense scrutiny for its aggressive response to demonstrators, including multiple reports in recent months finding that officers used excessive force and violated its own policies (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-11/lapd-violated-protocols-for-batons-and-less-lethal-bullets-injuring-many-protesters) during last year’s Black Lives Matter demonstrations, in some cases causing serious injuries requiring hospitalization.
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https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/18/dozens-arrested-in-los-angeles-as-anti-trans-protest-outside-spa-turns-violent (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/18/dozens-arrested-in-los-angeles-as-anti-trans-protest-outside-spa-turns-violent)<body id="cke_pastebin" style="position: absolute; top: 336px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden; left: -1000px;">The far-right protesters called for a boycott of Wi Spa and chanted baseless claims about paedophilia, as women carrying signs reading “protect female spaces” and “It’s worse in women’s shelters” marched alongside men wearing helmets and masks that covered their faces.
Calls to defend “female spaces” and “women’s shelters” have become rallying cries of anti-trans groups, who have falsely suggested that trans-inclusive policies endanger cis women. California has for years had laws in place that allow trans people to use facilities that match their gender.
The chants and signs in Los Angeles on Saturday highlighted the convergence of anti-trans activism with other strains of far-right activism. Many demonstrators chanted “Save our children,” a slogan taken up by QAnon conspiracy theorists (https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/qanon-looms-behind-nationwide-rallies-viral-hashtags-n1237722), whose ideology is centered on an elaborate narrative about a cabal of influential paedophiles. Other demonstrators wore shirts pledging to murder leftwing activists, with reference to rightwing death squads in Chile in the 1970s. Arthur Schaper, the leader of the California chapter of MassResistance, an anti-LGBT organization that the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) classifies as a hate group, arrived early at the protest outside Wi Spa and took refuge behind a line of police officers as trans rights protesters heckled him.
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</figure>For hours on Saturday, the neighborhood around Wi Spa was filled with lines of police in riot helmets and clashes between police and protesters, with reports of less-lethal weapons being used against the trans rights and anti-fascist activists who showed up as part of a counter-protest against the far-right demonstrators. The volatile protests, in the middle of an ordinary Saturday, left some passers-by confused and fearful.


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A Los Angeles police department spokesperson said police made several dozen arrests for failure to disperse after declaring an unlawful assembly shortly after 11am. LAPD also appeared to fire (https://twitter.com/waterspider__/status/1416461162707755010)rubber bullets at trans rights demonstrators from a close distance, despite a recent judge’s ruling (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/22/los-angeles-protest-mayor-police-budget-increase) restricting the department’s use of certain “less lethal” projectile launchers against protesters. A Guardian journalist who tried to interview far-right protesters was chased, pushed, and shoved to the ground.
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</figure>Footage also showed LAPD officers taking a trans flag (https://twitter.com/VPS_Reports/status/1416539339773734915) from demonstrators, and the police department later posted a photo (https://twitter.com/LAPDHQ/status/1416535236389728256/photo/3) of a rainbow-painted piece of wood left behind, claiming it was some kind of violation.

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Far-right groups and Republicans legislators have over the past year increasingly targeted trans people as part of a broader culture war, with anti-LGBTQ campaigns and a series of anti-trans state bills, including legislation targeting medical care for trans youth and attempting to prevent trans girls from participating in women’s sports.
The US rightwing media have spent several weeks turning the inclusive policy of a local Korean spa into national news. Tucker Carlson’s Fox News show put the spotlight on Wi Spa (https://www.foxnews.com/media/lgbtq-community-appalled-after-transgender-exposes-male-genitalia-in-front-of-young-girls-at-la-spa) in late June, highlighting a viral video of the customer who complained to spa employees (https://www.foxnews.com/media/lgbtq-community-appalled-after-transgender-exposes-male-genitalia-in-front-of-young-girls-at-la-spa) . In the video, spa employees politely reiterated the business’ non-discrimination policies and compliance with the law, as the customer argued, “There’s no such thing as transgender.”
A Los Angeles LBGT newspaper later reported that there were questions about the veracity of the allegations (https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/07/wi-spa-la-transphobic-protest.html) in the viral video, and that it was not clear if any transgender customers were even present (https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/07/wi-spa-la-transphobic-protest.html)in the spa when the video was filmed.
The following Saturday, 3 July, saw violent clashes around the spa (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-03/lapd-declares-unlawful-assembly-protests-koreatown-transgender-rights) as anti-trans demonstrators showed up to protest Wi Spa, and local trans rights and anti-fascist activists showed up to defend it. Police said they made no arrests during the first round of chaotic protests, despite several violent attacks captured on video (https://twitter.com/SamBraslow/status/1411381618065825794).

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Amber Hooper, from Orange County, had watched the violence in early July in shock, and had decided to come to Wi Spa with a friend for the second counter-protest on Saturday 17 July, after local activists said far-right demonstrators were planning to return. The friends said they wanted to represent their community, and were hoping the violence would stop.
It was frustrating to see that “the people who talk about law and order are against the laws that protect trans people,” Hooper said. “Trans rights are human rights.”
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Wi Spa did not immediately reply to a request for comment on the ongoing protests. “Like many other metropolitan areas, Los Angeles contains a transgender population, some of whom enjoy visiting a spa,” Wi Spa had said in a statement to Los Angeles Magazine (https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/wi-spa-video/)in late June, noting that California law bars businesses from discriminating against trans people. “Wi Spa strives to meet the needs of all its customers.”
Southern California has long been a center of rightwing extremism, including violent pro-Trump demonstrations, militia groups, activists links to QAnon, and white supremacist organizations, and many of the California defendants charged with participating in the 6 January pro-Trump insurrection at the US capitol came from Los Angeles and surrounding cities (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/25/beverly-hills-arrests-us-capitol-attack).
LAPD has faced intense scrutiny for its aggressive response to demonstrators, including multiple reports in recent months finding that officers used excessive force and violated its own policies (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-11/lapd-violated-protocols-for-batons-and-less-lethal-bullets-injuring-many-protesters) during last year’s Black Lives Matter demonstrations, in some cases causing serious injuries requiring hospitalization.
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[natina]

Was Trans Nudity Incident at Los Angeles Spa Staged?


The incident supposedly happened June 24, when an Instagram user going by Cubana Angel posted a video of her complaining to a staff member at Wi Spa about the trans woman, referring to her as a man, and saying women and girls in the area were offended by the sight of the trans woman’s genitals. Cubana Angel was upset that spa personnel supported the trans woman, and she said, “There ain’t no such thing as transgender.”
The video circulated on websites for far-right groups and trans-exclusionary radical feminists, or TERFs. It led to protests by both trans-supportive and anti-trans demonstrators (https://www.advocate.com/transgender/2021/7/07/trans-nudity-los-angeles-spa-roils-city) the following weekend and to an editorial in the Los Angeles Timesendorsing trans people’s right to public accommodations. Several right-wing media outlets, however, have characterized the matter as an example of trans rights going too far.

But now a Blade contributor, a trans activist and journalist writing under the pseudonym Robert Lansing, says the whole thing may have been an elaborate hoax.
“A source at the Spa told the Blade there’s no record of any of its usual transgender clients on its appointments guest list on the day in question,” Lansing wrote in an article published Wednesday. “Treatment at the Spa is by appointment only, and most of its transgender clients are well known to the staff.”
Also, anonymous sources with the Los Angeles Police Department told Lansing there’s no corroborating evidence that a trans person was at Wi Spa that day. No obviously trans person can be seen in the video, and no other clients have offered evidence either, according to the article. A woman falsely accused of being the trans woman who so offended Cubana Angel has been harassed and received death threats, the writer noted.
“It also remains a possibility that there was a person, unknown to the Wi Spa staff, who pretended to be transgender to create an inciting incident,” Lansing continued. “In 2015, anti-transgender activists in Washington State deliberately encouraged men to enter women’s facilities. One cisgender man entered a swimming pool changing area wearing only board shorts while claiming that he had a right to be there (he was removed from the premises without charges being filed).”
Cubana Angel’s Instagram posts are “almost exclusively Christian memes,” so it’s strange that she would go to a spa known for its friendliness to LGBTQ+ people, Lansing added.
The Advocate has sought comment from Cubana Angel but has yet to receive a response.


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https://www.advocate.com/transgender/2021/7/09/was-trans-nudity-incident-los-angeles-spa-staged (https://www.advocate.com/transgender/2021/7/09/was-trans-nudity-incident-los-angeles-spa-staged)

[natina]

Koreatown's Wi Spa At Center Of Controversy After Complaint About Transgender Customer




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYbS0rF9DS0

[natina]

https://abc7.com/wi-spa-protest-lapd-alert-wilshire/10894299/


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[natina]

https://mobile.twitter.com/TERFCollective/status/1410593799726899201

Finally got word of what Cubana Angel Aka Spa Queen https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f451.svg is planning. Many are saying TERFs stay home. If it were us, we would go but stand across the street with our own big bold clear anti SB 179/Anti Self ID signage.#SayNoToSelfID (https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/SayNoToSelfID?src=hashtag_click) #TWAM (https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/TWAM?src=hashtag_click) #SexNotGender (https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/SexNotGender?src=hashtag_click) #WomanMeansSomething (https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/WomanMeansSomething?src=hashtag_click) #WiSpa (https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/WiSpa?src=hashtag_click)

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[natina]

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[Stavros]

Page 1 of this thread will not load so I don't know what's on it, but this is by now an old news story with sme doubt as to whether or not the incident actually happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi_Spa_controversy#Background

[natina]

It happened , read and listen to the girl who filed the complaint right above your post.


not a hoax listen to her now below

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ale1000C/status/1417366880944336910

https://abc7.com/wi-spa-protest-lapd-alert-wilshire/10894299/

[natina]

https://mobile.twitter.com/FaeceSocietatis/status/1416560526142943233

[rodinuk]

Page 1 does not load I’ve tried different platforms but to no avail.

[Stavros]

It happened , read and listen to the girl who filed the complaint right above your post.


not a hoax listen to her now below

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ale1000C/status/1417366880944336910

https://abc7.com/wi-spa-protest-lapd-alert-wilshire/10894299/


Cuban Angel is a militant 'Christian' of the kind that think anyone transgendered is either a deluded fool or an agent of the devil, about as credible as a $3 bill. Are some men pretending to be transgenderd to violate 'women only' spaces? Yes, but are they transgendered or just Incel/disturbed men with their own agenda?

The key issue is how many male to female transgendered citizens are there deliberately violating 'women only' spaces for purposes of violence/sexual gratification? WI Spa has argued it has responsible transgendered clients who never cause any trouble, so I suggest again that whether it was a staged event or not, this is part of a broader campaign against liberal values, and should not be overestimated in its actual importance.

[natina]

There where other women complaining about transgenders exposing there genitalia. For example the woman with her six (6) year old daughter in the jacuzzi.
it was Not a Hoax. People have complained before.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-20/how-far-right-rage-transgender-rights-la-spa-chaos-streets%3f_amp=true


In the aftermath, the police are facing questions about whether officers used excessive force. But the incident has also exposed the power of a viral video (https://www.instagram.com/p/CQgfGijHyrv/) given widespread attention in the right-wing press and social media.
The spa has become the latest hot spot for clashes between far-right groups and the left in L.A., kicked off by the video taken by an irate customer in late June.



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[A protest outside Wi Spa in Westlake ended with police use of projectiles and the arrest of 40 people, mostly for failure to disperse.
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The video showed a woman arguing with Wi Spa employees after she said she had seen a customer with a penis in an area that is reserved for women. The Wilshire Boulevard facility has some gender-separated areas with changing rooms and Jacuzzis.
The footage was quickly amplified by an international network of right-wing activists, pundits and media outlets, including Breitbart, the Gateway Pundit, RealClearPolitics and TheBlaze, a publication founded by Glenn Beck. Message boards where anti-trans activists gather, including Mumsnet, saw thousands of comments.

[natina]

Reached via phone Monday, the woman who filmed the viral video that sparked the protests said she has visited Korean spas for nearly 20 years but had never come across an unclothed transgender person before. She found herself “stunned” and “traumatized” to see a person with a penis on the women’s side of the facility exiting a shower area.

The woman did not her given name, because she said she has been receiving death threats. She said she has never been involved in political activism before, and she and Marc Little, a prominent conservative Black pastor, are now seeking revisions to California’s civil rights law, which forbids businesses from discriminating against gender identity or gender expression — a provision added in 2011.
She said she had not attended any of the protests, and “absolutely” did not want to see anyone harmed, but was not surprised by the clashes.
“Whenever you have good and evil coming together, there is going to be violence,” she said.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-20/how-far-right-rage-transgender-rights-la-spa-chaos-streets%3f_amp=true

[Stavros]

Natina, one or two incidents are being inflated into an example of the cultural crisis that has swept across the country, promoted by Americans because it suits their agenda, shaped as it is by narrow definition of 'God, Family and Country'. Most if not all are supporters of Donald Trump's party of Sedition, Sleaze and Lies, and are for that reason part of the broader attack on the US, the Constitution and the Separation of Powers. Meanwhile, real issues around public health and the right to vote take a back seat. This really is not that important.

[natina]

I don’t believe a 6 year old girl should have to stare down at a erect penis in a hot tub because they the transgender “feel “ there a woman. They should cover up when at the spa because you already know that genitalia is going to be an issue at a women’s spa and maybe not for everyone but for some women and there children.

[Stavros]

I don’t believe a 6 year old girl should have to stare down at a erect penis in a hot tub because they the transgender “feel “ there a woman. They should cover up when at the spa because you already know that genitalia is going to be an issue at a women’s spa and maybe not for everyone but for some women and there children.


I agree as do most people, and for that matter I doubt any of the regular transgenderd clientele if they were ever in the same space as women and children would behave so badly. Again, you are allowing the misdemeanors of a few lunatics to smear the reputations of decent, law-abiding citizens. Which is what the fanatical 'Christian' lobby and Trump supporters want you to do.

[natina]

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[natina]

Don’t go over there by that Spa because they are still protesting and rioting.