OnlyFans to ban porn?

[Stavros]

What do you think of the decision by Only Fans to ban all explicit Porn starting October 1st?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58273914

Rumours that OnlyFans is going to block pornographic content from October appear to have been exaggerrated -yes, it wants a more diverse range of content producers and fans, but it will not block photos and videos -I assume the financial benefits are too great.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/onlyfans-funding-worth-billion-dollars-b1867560.html

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2021/08/onlyfans-porn-ban-false/

[thickmotherfucker]

well, according to today's news, looks like they are about to ban something:

"Effective 1 October, 2021, OnlyFans will prohibit the posting of any content containing sexually-explicit conduct. In order to ensure the long-term sustainability of the platform, and to continue to host an inclusive community of creators and fans, we must evolve our content guidelines. Creators will continue to be allowed to post content containing nudity as long as it is consistent with our Acceptable Use Policy."

https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/19/onlyfans-bans-explicit-content/


lmk if you wanna build the next onlyfans ;)

[Stavros]

I may have misunderstood this, so apologies. Either way, it is just another result of pressure from people who enjoy sex stoppiing others from sharing it. It may be that there have been OnlyFans producers or content that included material that is illegal in the UK, eg, Bestiality, but that can be dealt with by moderators. As to the broader issue of trafficking, minors etc, banning Craigslist and Backpage did not stop that happening, merely pushed it underground where the real criminals probaby prefer to be anyway.

[ceejay100]

I had just come here to post the same thing!!

It seems that the banks and financial institutions can do more to limit porn than any legislation introduced by governments.

It also restricts the earning capacity of the performers and also the freedom to create their own content. Will this drive them to (or in some cases back to) the major porn producers who, with a potential surplus of talent, will be able to strike harder bargains for fees?

It will almost certainly restrict content available to the viewers. Some of the content produced by these performers is highly erotic but is unlikely to picked up as a genre or sub genre by the major companies. We have seen various threads here about why don't Grooby do this or that to which Steven has always replied with the reasons as to why it won't be happening

[Will Riker]

A forced euthanasia, I would say.

[Murmdrum]

RIP to only fans....sackless bastards will get what they deserve

[holzz]

good news for manyvids and just for fans.

i dunno how they define sexually explicit. like nudes are explicit. unless they mean penetration, cumshots, anal, etc.

[holzz]

I had just come here to post the same thing!!

It seems that the banks and financial institutions can do more to limit porn than any legislation introduced by governments.

It also restricts the earning capacity of the performers and also the freedom to create their own content. Will this drive them to (or in some cases back to) the major porn producers who, with a potential surplus of talent, will be able to strike harder bargains for fees?

It will almost certainly restrict content available to the viewers. Some of the content produced by these performers is highly erotic but is unlikely to picked up as a genre or sub genre by the major companies. We have seen various threads here about why don't Grooby do this or that to which Steven has always replied with the reasons as to why it won't be happening

I'd argue it's more non-porn stars or girls/guys with non-adult jobs looking for an extra hustle who will lose out the most. For porn stars it is an extra income, but they can do studio work, or go back to having their own website content.
Or the other self-curated/hosting porn sites will just get more users and hits and income. I can see pOrnhub creator getting bigger as people migrate there.

[TravisPerkins]

good news for manyvids and just for fans.

i dunno how they define sexually explicit. like nudes are explicit. unless they mean penetration, cumshots, anal, etc.

They wont be far behind just like Pornhub https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/10/pornhub-mastercard-visa-rape-child-abuse-images

https://i.postimg.cc/3J6K6M5n/Screen-Shot-2021-08-20-at-19-36-39.png (https://postimages.org/)images of high quality (https://postimages.org/)

[daltx_m]

Does OF exist for any other reason? Well, bye!

[thickmotherfucker]

The Guardian (as usual) has more detail behind the news: "Earlier this month more than a hundred US congressmen and women demanded a department of justice investigation into OnlyFans, relating to the alleged presence of underage material on the site."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/19/onlyfans-to-ban-adult-material-after-pressure-from-payment-processors

and following the letter calling for investigation, it's clear that OnlyFans had no choice now, but certainly could have done something at site's inception to foresee this and put appropriate controls in place

"In 2019, NCMEC indicated it was aware of 10 cases involving missing children associated with content sold on OnlyFans. In 2021, NCMEC has identified at least 80 cases in which missing children were linked with OnlyFans content. Moreover, in 2021, the National Center on Sexual Exploitation (NCOSE) named OnlyFans one of the top contributors to online sexual exploitation in the United States."

https://wagner.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congresswoman-ann-wagner-leads-bipartisan-coalition-calling-for-doj-to

[Dudedude12345]

Starting in October 2021, no more porn on Onlyfans



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKs4zDLlhBw


Onlyfans are stupid enough to take a nosedive off a cliff and took Tumblrs path and MySpaced itself. They should've made an antiscam policy but this is going to hurt Onlyfans in the long run, and they made $500,000,000,000 yearly so this is a stupid idea

[Dudedude12345]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrzPRt8N1oo

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Oh well. Rough winds I guess

[Nikka]

Poor sluts

[Nikka]

Go back to suck cocks for money

[Will Riker]

Go back to suck cocks for money

That shall be the alternative for quite many so called OF content providers, Nikka, lol

[Stavros]

The Guardian (as usual) has more detail behind the news: "Earlier this month more than a hundred US congressmen and women demanded a department of justice investigation into OnlyFans, relating to the alleged presence of underage material on the site."


Do the same members of Congress propose to introduce a law that will make child marriage illegal in the USA?

https://populationmatters.org/news/2021/04/child-marriage-us-where-outrage

[Charlotte_periwinkle]

I just got this notification on my onlyfans page.

Guess I’ve gotta look for a new platform now 😩

Apparently they are still allowing nudity but banning sexual content. So I don’t know what the line is here.

I can still show my cock, but if I touch it, will I get banned?

[Fitzcarraldo]

I just got this notification on my onlyfans page.

Guess I’ve gotta look for a new platform now ��

Apparently they are still allowing nudity but banning sexual content. So I don’t know what the line is here.

I can still show my cock, but if I touch it, will I get banned?

The line seems to be "community standards," whatever that is. I've seen talk of an alternative called "fansly" (I won't share the URL in case that's considered a promotion) but apparently it's pretty weak at the moment. I guess ManyVids is still around, too.

[dirtrail]

Oh well!

[Will Riker]

I just got this notification on my onlyfans page.

Guess I’ve gotta look for a new platform now 

Apparently they are still allowing nudity but banning sexual content. So I don’t know what the line is here.

I can still show my cock, but if I touch it, will I get banned?

A very close TS friend and OF content provider just uploaded a sex scene and also all her other hot material can still be seen, until the deadline, I guess

[Lorca81]

While OF is the biggest name, there are already a bunch of competitors that have the exact same model. My guess is that folks using OF to host content will just move to other platforms for the foreseeable future. That said, it doesn't seem like government authorities, payment processors, NGOs who fight human trafficking/child exploitation will relent anytime soon. So the writing may be on the wall. I imagine the administrative side of ethically running a porn production company--maintaining records showing all performers are of-age, were tested for STIs, provided consent to be filmed, etc.--is a huge job. I'm guessing the average OF content creator does any of that stuff. It'd be interesting to hear Grooby Steven's take on this development.

[Nikka]

That shall be the alternative for quite many so called OF content providers, Nikka, lol
Sorry i was drunk lol

[filghy2]

Apparently they are still allowing nudity but banning sexual content. So I don’t know what the line is here.

I can still show my cock, but if I touch it, will I get banned?

Definitely no masturbation allowed, and presumably no erections at all because they are banning "any exhibition of the anus or genitals of any person which is extreme or offensive".
https://onlyfans.com/aup

[filghy2]

It seems the decision to ban porn was in response to pressure from their payment processors, possibly worried about their own potential legal exposure. I presume that other companies in the same field will eventually come under the same pressure.

Once again we are looking at a whole section of the sex industry possibly being shut down because of concerns about underage sex. It should be possible to come up with more targeted solutions, but is anyone in authority motivated to do this? Hardly anyone on either side of politics wants to be seen to be publicly defending the sex industry, even though many of them would be using its services.

[thickmotherfucker]

[..]That said, it doesn't seem like government authorities, payment processors, NGOs who fight human trafficking/child exploitation will relent anytime soon. So the writing may be on the wall.[..]

I have a different opinion/point of view. Why didn't OF (and why wouldn't any other platform that comes after them) make detection, removal and cooperation with authorities when it comes to underage sex acts/illegal trafficking and exploitation as their PRIORITY #1??

There are quite a few technologies that exist out of the box today that could help here with minimal administrative burden. Age detection from video/photo is trivial for machines, and any suspected material should be flagged for review right away. Sentiment detection (i.e., is performer under duress?), anomaly identification between location of broadcast and identification information submitted is also easy. Flagging potential "sex content farms" based on identical locations of broadcasters and tracking those over time for violations could be another way to prevent and/or stop illegal activities. And, of course, there are many manual controls that could be put in place to assuage even the toughest scrutiny.

I love sex (obviously) and I don't want to see a blanket ban on all content. But the industry certainly needs to evolve to address the concerns repeatedly raised front and center instead of treating them as after thoughts.

[TravisPerkins]

So their new terms and conditions cover just about everything.

Looks like there will be thousands of sex "workers" joining the welfare queue as no regular employer will want them on their staff after baring all on Only Fans. As Jacko used to say.... Dems de rules!


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[phillyguy21]

The United States government just needs to make prostitution legal nationwide. They can regulate, tax, and track it like a regular job, since they claim to be so worried about sex trafficking. Bring the whoring above ground, and then you'll have a smaller black market to target.

I know they won't actually do this any time soon, because the government/politicians don't work in the people's best interest...never have.

[filghy2]

Many civilised countries have made prostitution a legal regulated activity. Unfortunately, moral posturers seem to have more clout in the US political system; I guess because religion is more important.

In any case, the OF ban on porn goes well beyond illegal activity. It looks like the change was forced on them by Mastercard and Visa, who have previously cut off payment services to Pornhub. Whenever a key area of technology is dominated by one or two companies they can have as much power as any government.
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/onlyfans-banning-explicit-content-won-t-end-well-anyone-n1277342

Anyone who thinks it will be fine because people can just move to other platforms hasn't been paying attention to what happened earlier with Backpage and the FOSTA/SESTA laws. It started off as a crackdown on illegal activity but the net ended up being cast much more widely.

Perhaps Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies do have a big future after all. They might end up being the only way we can pay for porn.

The sex industry will never disappear because there will always be demand, but forcing it underground means that the people involved are more at risk of abuse and exploitation. If porn is forced off of platforms like OnlyFans it will move to shadier parts of the internet where there are fewer safeguards and people are more likely to get ripped off.

[mrtrebus]

there is non-porn on onlyfans

[PEPE3Z]

Go back to suck cocks for money

I see you have an OnlyFans too... that will be your alternative job now ? :kiss:

[filghy2]

there is non-porn on onlyfans

But would you pay good money to watch t-girls' non-porn material?

[Nikka]

now is suspended

[Stavros]

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

"OnlyFans, the user-generated adult content site, is reversing course on plans to ban “sexually explicit” content after securing agreement with its payment processors, it has announced.

Last week, OnlyFans said it would ban adult material (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/19/onlyfans-to-ban-adult-material-after-pressure-from-payment-processors)from 1 October, to the dismay of its users and creators, who argued that doing so risked driving such work underground.
Those plans have been scrapped, the company said in a tweet (https://twitter.com/OnlyFans/status/1430499277302816773). “Thank you to everyone for making your voices heard. We have secured assurances necessary to support our diverse creator community and have suspended the planned October 1 policy change. OnlyFans stands for inclusion and we will continue to provide a home for all creators.”
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/aug/25/onlyfans-scraps-plans-to-ban-sexually-explicit-material

[Will Riker]

Forced euthanasia suspended, lol

[Fitzcarraldo]

"Suspended" means it could be reinstated at any time.

[filghy2]

"OnlyFans, the user-generated adult content site, is reversing course on plans to ban “sexually explicit” content after securing agreement with its payment processors, it has announced.

It's strange that they made the announcement when the negotiations with their payment processors were still ongoing. Unless they wanted to stir up a reaction as a deliberate negotiating ploy - "see, if you do this we won't have much of a business and you won't make money from us".

[filghy2]

This is a useful article on the reversed ban, although why it happened is still very opaque.
https://www.vox.com/recode/22642250/onlyfans-reverse-ban-porn-sexually-explicit-content-policy-bbc-mystery

This may end up being another case study in how to ruin a good business through poor management decisions. Even though they reversed the decision, many customers may decide to move to other platforms because they no longer trust OF.

[Helvis2012]

Sounds like bad business.

[Fitzcarraldo]

Sounds like bad business.

You bumped a two-year-old topic to say that? You know OnlyFans didn't actually ban porn, right?