I Give Up, I just got robbed again!

[ice]

Like I said in a previous post I've only been with Naya & Nikki. Before them I tried two times with some local girls not on the escort sites & after the roses exchanged hands some problem came up & they girls couldn't perform the service. I really wasn't going to try again but I said maybe the escort girls were more professional. So after 2 good hookups after that naya & nikki I felt it was cool.

So I'm still pretty new to the game. So I'm chillin & I decide yo I'm gonna give try to hook up 2nite. so i call up a nyc girl Mystique. When I called she asked me if I was a top or bottom, I said hey I've only done it twice so I really don't have a preference to just one or the other. In my mind meaning that I do both in an encounter. I get there she doesn't say anything about the top/bottom thing and then I give her the roses we start up a bit. after about 15 minutes of this rubbing & touching & bj thing i went to turn her over. She said No sweetie I'm a Top only! ....I said what the hell now you want to make that known. I asked why doesn't her eros ad state that or why on the phone didn't you say your a top or when I walked in. She said I asked what you were & I thought you just wanted to touch & get a bj. I didn't think you was into it she said. I jumped up & put my clothes back on cuz I felt like she was trying to get over on me. She said I could stay & she would give me a bj, I said no I don;t want a bj if I did I'd ask any of my 4 girlfriends what I wanted was to get it on with a hot tgirl. Every time I asked why would she wait to say there was something that she didn't do & not be up front about it she would get a dumb l;ook on her face pause then answer like she was trying to come up with an answer.

I simply asked her this is a very big misunderstanding, very little service has been performed, I was up front with you & gave you respect & didn't play any games with you about anything. I asked her would you consider giving me half the money back since no services were really performed & I've only been here for 15 min. She said no. I said fine & left.
Any other person would have been yelling at her & up in her face or tried to beat her ass. I'm a black man & I have respect for myself & other so I don't get down like that.

Basically folks i need your opinions WAS I IN THE WRONG :?:
Although I had my hopes of hooking up with allanah one day soon, I don't want to do the tgirl thing anymore. I've never had this type of issue with regular girl escorts. I can take a hint. successful hookups for me are 40%, getting jacked 60%, too much of a risk for me. I think I'm gonna hang it up.

:evil: :oops:

sorry for the long rant post

[ice]

Damn my bad J I actually thought you may have had something slightly intelligent to say.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I hope that this doesn't put you off to the "ladies." Believe it or not 90% of them are on the up & up and don't play games. BUT I need to address something with you. You did fuck up by not asking her certain things on the initial phonecall. Most providers will tell you the answers to your questions if you simply ask them. A few are assholes and might hang up on you, but consider them doing you a favor, because if they can't deal with simple questions on the phone imagine what they are like OFF the phone.

I actually know Mystique and I'm having a hard time believing she would act that way, though I've never been intimate with her in any way having sat in a room with her and share various topics of interest it just seems unlike her. I could be wrong, wouldn't be the 1st time...............

This might sound a bit "pluggish" but you might want to consider seeing a woman from the personals section of Hung Angels. At least then you can ask questions you KNOW you want answers to, prior to wasting gas $$$, through IM's or email.

[dajuicy]

not to sound like a dick, but calling cold, setting up an appointment, hitting a t girl is a roll of the dice...there are a lot of variables and extinguating circumstances.....ive had my share of bad ones, as most of the guys who play this stupid game...the best/only advice i can give, is to really hit the review sites and shop carefully. Even with that, you can get burned bad. I had a serious jones for a girl in the brx, an she had for the most part really good reviews....i finally went for it and it was a totaly waste....a fifteen minute bj session, when she had promised a much more complete giddyup. and why..well because the last client had gotten the goodies and she had nutted etec. and i was just "the next client".. and she had other ass issues that i wont go into. word to the wise....be the early bird, and maybe you get the worm! Im too old to be trotting out to these gigs, but there is nothing like being able to mingle shop around at these parties and pick ffrom there. finaally, if you can get on real terms with a girl. that is, you are not just a number and a trick, the better off you are going to be. i think there are girls out here, that dont want to ripe you off, and will try hard not to. but you have to do your homework, and be aN "educated consumer" and even with that, its a crap shoot....I would stay away from craigslist.. there seems to be too much bad vibes in there and some of the girls look, well, how can i say this delicately, beastly......buyer beware.....always share the good experiences.....later.

[Youngmc]

once u hand the money over just consider it gone, so enjoy it as best u can, u have to be thorough in knowing what u want and let her know and agree, at that point u shud have just settled for head and called it a night

[ARMANIXXX]

Tag for a better read and answer when I get back.

[imaniinj]

thats misha milan shes a rapper you know some girls are just into getting paid and some girls do ytake their jobs seriously because you want to give your client the best of time so they cum back but on the other hand some guys are assholes and i had my share of cons

[ice]

thx for the reply guys.

I really tried to be as polite & respectable as possible.
I know ladies are sometimes quick to not date black guys because of the way one black guy has acted so I wanted to show some class not act a fool. Deal the best I could in that situation.

I didn't say much I just said to her its cool I'd rather leave then, it like going into a pizza shop for a slice finding out its sold out & coming out with a ham & cheese hero..LoL

Young, I told her I'd rather leave then get the bj, because i hate surprises at that point in the game. Its also better to say nah that's ok, instead of yeah just let me have what you are willing to offer since I'm getting Jerked, didn't make sense to me. LoL

JWBL, great advice. I really meant to ask her to make sure everything was cool & what we would do, but she started into me the minute I walked through the door. She was like you take take those off & come here...LoL
But seriously (in this day & age of all types of freaks) all girls should say before activity starts up what they don't prefer to do. Its not like she is a new girl to the game. to me I'm still newbie status so she could have taken the 2 minutes to get things straight since it was her rules. Who really wants to spell out with money in hand & say the cops dream words, can I fuck u now here your money? Just as the working girl doesn't want to say too much the guy doesn't either. I just belive strongly that something like that should be up front because its not something the working girl won't perform.

Ya Live & Ya Learn, I really wasn't expecting the money back. I didn't argue & told her it was fine to keep it. Hell I spend more at the bar in a night. To me money is in the reviews/referrals & in the comeback. Now she has a guy that wasn't pleased out there, if someone on the board was thinking about it they may not now. Business is business but clients are your income you keep your clients happy. It was more of a being comfortable & trust factor So I decided to be out.

[Vicki Richter]

I would have at least jacked off on her face just to make a point.

Maybe she saw your penis and felt threatened by it. Some black guys are beyond huge and that isn't for just any girl.

I think if I ever escorted like an hourly gig, I would escort as bottom only. I could never trust a total stranger to do him in the bootie. I am definitely not a machine like some girls who can get hard no matter what. It might be different if I built up a rapport with someone, but I can't even imagine these girls topping a guy they've never met every day. I tried to do that once and the guy pooped all over the condom. This was a very rich French doctor. I mean that's just wrong. I am such a clean freak when I am taking dick and most guys don't have a clue about that.

How do girls do top only? I guess it would be OK to let people suck me. That seems safe.

[tommytuu]

Like I said in a previous post I've only been with Naya & Nikki. Before them I tried two times with some local girls not on the escort sites & after the roses exchanged hands some problem came up & they girls couldn't perform the service. I really wasn't going to try again but I said maybe the escort girls were more professional. So after 2 good hookups after that naya & nikki I felt it was cool.

So I'm still pretty new to the game. So I'm chillin & I decide yo I'm gonna give try to hook up 2nite. so i call up a nyc girl Mystique. When I called she asked me if I was a top or bottom, I said hey I've only done it twice so I really don't have a preference to just one or the other. In my mind meaning that I do both in an encounter. I get there she doesn't say anything about the top/bottom thing and then I give her the roses we start up a bit. after about 15 minutes of this rubbing & touching & bj thing i went to turn her over. She said No sweetie I'm a Top only! ....I said what the hell now you want to make that known. I asked why doesn't her eros ad state that or why on the phone didn't you say your a top or when I walked in. She said I asked what you were & I thought you just wanted to touch & get a bj. I didn't think you was into it she said. I jumped up & put my clothes back on cuz I felt like she was trying to get over on me. She said I could stay & she would give me a bj, I said no I don;t want a bj if I did I'd ask any of my 4 girlfriends what I wanted was to get it on with a hot tgirl. Every time I asked why would she wait to say there was something that she didn't do & not be up front about it she would get a dumb l;ook on her face pause then answer like she was trying to come up with an answer.

I simply asked her this is a very big misunderstanding, very little service has been performed, I was up front with you & gave you respect & didn't play any games with you about anything. I asked her would you consider giving me half the money back since no services were really performed & I've only been here for 15 min. She said no. I said fine & left.
Any other person would have been yelling at her & up in her face or tried to beat her ass. I'm a black man & I have respect for myself & other so I don't get down like that.

Basically folks i need your opinions WAS I IN THE WRONG :?:
Although I had my hopes of hooking up with allanah one day soon, I don't want to do the tgirl thing anymore. I've never had this type of issue with regular girl escorts. I can take a hint. successful hookups for me are 40%, getting jacked 60%, too much of a risk for me. I think I'm gonna hang it up.

:evil: :oops:

sorry for the long rant postDude, this happens to most of us at some point. I remember the scene. Trannie scrambling for what to say after there has been an obvious misunderstanding and she wants to be right. But more importantly, she wants to keep the money and feel justified in her reasons why. The moral thing to do would be to at least give you some of your money back, but your dealing with people who don't practice morals as a part of business. This is why I can't just randomly call someone from an escort listing that I don't know. J is right, your better off if you've established a rapport of some sort. You also could have been a little more clear about exactly what you wanted. But its not her first time around the block either. If you'd have stayed, she would have sucked you for 10-15 more minutes and if you didn't cum, she would tell you to leave. She would have given you the old"my boyfriend lives here and he's on his way", but never mentioning any of this beforehand. Sadly, this is how a trick is treated. You also could have taken Vicki's advice and said keep the money bitch and jacked off on her fucking face. I would have loved reading an ending like that. Oh, I better be careful to not say too many negative things about trannies. No matter how shady some of them are. Now lets just wait for the champion of all trannie causes to respond and defend what Mystique did. I think some of you know who I'm talking about. Hey, I'll tell you what, I know my friend would have given you the money back. Because she's doing so well with other endeavors, she doesn't need it that bad. Like she said to me"some girls have to suck dick the rest of their life, and those that are a little more skilled and motivated don't". Sometimes its a desperate situation that you've walked into.

[mrironknee]

I would have at least jacked off on her face just to make a point.

Vicky, you never fail to make your point. I get the biggest kick out of you, you are the bomb!

[suckseed]

Conversely, I was with Dannia in Portland, and offered to pay her more just to make sure it was extra special, and she said not to worry about it, and proceeded to rock my world. Do a search for the whole thing. It was one of the best times of my life, no lie. But I did my research first.

[hung4real2002]

I came across an experience like that but I must say that, but it went a little different for me. I called up one of the escorts on Eros and talked to her about hooking up. I made the same mistake that you did about not saying what I wanted specifically, I wanted everything. I wanted to fuck and get fucked, but I found out she's only a bottom. I had already given her the money and everything so I was disappointed and she didn't want to give me my money back. The difference was that she had a roommate that answered the door and she said if I was to give her $25 dollars extra then maybe she could talk her roommate to join in. Her roommate wasn't as attractive as she was but she was cute, and I didn't want it to be a total waste of time so I said she. Long story short, her roommate joined the party and it was the best experience I've ever had, got everything I wanted and more.

[ice]

Vicki U truly are the girl!

Tommy: the sad part is that I told her this "I appreciate your time & I think we both weren't clear & I wound not ask for a 100% refund that wouldn't be fair to you & your time is a value, but I'm asking to split the difference & return only half." Damn could I have been any nicer in how & what I was saying to her? LoL

What was really crazy is the excuse, from your answer on the phone I thought you wasn't interested in sex just a bj.

That Brings me to one HELL of a question How the Hell can someone escort if they don't totally understand english. Before I decided on "Robbin' the Hood" (Mystique's New Name) LoL I called about three other girls to get a choice. the other 3 I couldn't underdstand because of the spanish/portuguese accent, I kept saying huh? Repeat that? So that's how I settled on Robbin Hood.

Damn I was going to go to the Tuesday party before all this happened.

[megaduece]

What lady wouldn't want to date a black guy? I've never had that problem Ice. The lesson has been learned and knowledge passed from this experience my brother.

[Dkg]

I could never see myself paying for sex. I dunno but It feels less meaningful when you have to pay for someone to sexually interact with you.

Guess I'm just that kinda guy.

[ARMANIXXX]

Ok...as implied by others here ICE,

The girl didn't quite "rob" you. Poor service? Perhaps. But definately not a "ROB" situation.

It is also in my opinion that you don't really know what your doing, respectively.

You need to ask the girls questions when you or they get to said destination for your deed BEFORE.......I repeat BEFORE giving ANY money. As a matter of fact, as corny as it sounds, make a list of what you want and don't want on paper and bring it with you so you don't forget in the heat of the moment which is exactly what happened to you.

Second, you need to get "IN THE KNOW". You should be studying and researching by visiting sites such as TER, SER, and personal favorite of mine http://www.shemalereview.net . Not only will these websites help save you money, but they will help save you from potential physical harm and/or Jail.

[JenESPY]

"I tried to do that once and the guy pooped all over the condom. This was a very rich French doctor. I mean that's just wrong."

Vicki, that is the funniest thing i've heard in a long time...i feel your pain. I have a hard enough time with guys going near my ass, no way im gonna mess around with theirs!

[josh]

A LOT OF TIMES THE GIRLS DO NOT STATE THIS ON THEIR ADD OR ON THE PHONE MOST OF THE TIME HUN... FIRST PRIORITY FOR THEM IS TO NOT SAY ANYTHING THAT MAY PUT THEM IN JAIL IF NOT CAREFUL...EROS MAKES THE GIRLS SIGN ALL KINDS OF PAPER SO THEY ARE NOT RESPONDSIBLE FOR THE GIRLS CONDUCT..SEX FOR SELL IS ILLEGAL IN ALMOST ALL STATES. IT SUCKS BUT BOTH GUY AND GIRL HAVE TO LIVE AND COMPROMISE WITH THAT...BEST FOR A GUY TO NOT GET SCREWED IS GO WITH YOUR FLOW..GET THERE..GET NAKED...SO SHE KNOW'S U'RE NOT A COP..THEN TALK MONEY BEFORE STARTING...DON'T ASSUME...