I'm NOT a "tranny chaser"!

[whatsupwithat]

Okay, I just joined and this may not make me very popular, but I have to get it off my chest.

Okay...I am NOT an "admirer" or a freakin' "tranny chaser". My preference for transsexuals happens to be my sexuality, who and what I'm attracted to. I'm really sick of seeing guys like myself referred to by transsexuals as one of the aforementioned names.

Look, I know society treats transsexuals as oddities and lacks understanding of the decisions you made for yourself. I also understand the sick and twisted cyclical oppression that goes on in our community.

Wait a minute...did I say "OUR" community?

That's right, I said OUR community. The simple fact of the matter is that when I realized my sexuality and entered into a relationship with a transsexual, I became part of the transgender community. I, as a young white male open about who he was and is, became an oddity, a pervert in society's eyes.

And I'm not. Pisses me off to no end.

So, I refuse society's labeling of me. And of you. And because of that, I also refuse to let you, the people I support and love and am attracted to, demean me and the men who are similar to me for liking and supporting you for who and what you are.

peace.

[whatsupwithat]

Anyone else feel this way?

[specialk]

There .....you feel better now??....Nice entrance rookie, welcome :)

[whatsupwithat]

gracias, specialk!

[yodajazz]

I agree entirely with what you said. For me , I made some choices long ago that kept me from pursuing true happiness. This why I encourage everyone to go for it, while you can. Just be careful.

[TomSelis]

This has been discussed several times before, but it's always good to hear someone new step out there and say, "I'm not a Chaser!" But then again, I'm sure you know, for every guy like you there's ten that are.

But hang in there, there will be times when you feel like a small voice, but you aren't.

[lovests36]

ditto.... :lol:

[SexxxyJade]

Hi everyone,

First off, let me give you my definition of a tranny chaser: any guy who tries to mount almost every TS he comes in contact with. Usually giving out the same lines about how beautiful she is, how he'd luv to take her out or be with her, etc. Just like str8 guys who do the same things to women and are labeled as "dogs", "tranny chasers" are the name we gave the guys who do these things to TS.
Its really not that serious but i guess when u feed too much into the phrase u think of a tranny-chaser, as sum crazy guy running after TS literally which is not at all the case.
I myself do not use this phrase simply because i know how it is to be a victim of name calling and labeled. But instead i try my best to educate guys on how to deal with girls like us. I understand it is all new to most guys and its like being a kid in a candy store.. so many pretty girls u cant control urself.
But just like real women we want to be treated right, find ONE girl you are attracted to and stick with her, if it doesnt work then move on, dont have 4 and 5 girls ur talkin to on instant messenger telling em the same things and trying to get into all thier pants... yes that is a tranny chaser.
Hope this helps, just my opinion of course.

[hondarobot]

I agree with the finding one girl and staying on target, if a guy is after a girl for real.

But here is the litmus test:

If, after initial contact, you're not having normal communication with the girl (phone, instant message, whatever) after a few months, pull the fuckin rip cord. All girls have trust issues, TS girls even more, and TS porn stars much more, but lets say four months should be the max a guy has to put up with at the extreme.

In the Real World, guys generally don't give girls a second chance after one dodged phone call.

If you still have no normal communication, and you're making an attempt to do so. . .

Sorry, shit isn't gonna work out. Just common sense to any guy interested in a girl. At least it should be.

And don't let them slap ya in the face for no reason and just get away with it. You can be a nice guy, but they will keep slapping. Keep being a good guy, but keep your shields up. And if a girl completely fucks you over, never give her a second chance. That just encourages other girls to do the same shit to some other guy.

And, Hey! Let's all be carefull out there.

:soapbox

[BeardedOne]

And if a girl completely fucks you over, never give her a second chance. That just encourages other girls to do the same shit to some other guy.

This explains why I don't have any of my limousines any more and never got that sweet country house. :?

[DaveloveShemales]

Well I not a tranny chaser or whatever they call it, I enjoy the beauty of all but I wouldn't class myself has bi or gay either. I have neevr been or met a real transexual, shemale or whatever the names is these but I do like some of the shemale I see on the net and anywhere else I see them. I am not attracted to men and gay sex put me off not that I am against that it just doesn't do anything for me. I am attracted to beautiful female women and would always leave it like that but I do have a fantasy of shemales. I hope that make sense if it does tell me lol. But what I like is enough for me and the reason I like some of shemale I see.

[Friedrich_Nietzsche]

And if a girl completely fucks you over, never give her a second chance. That just encourages other girls to do the same shit to some other guy.

This explains why I don't have any of my limousines any more and never got that sweet country house. :?

Yes, but u must surely have a huuge "fan" club..

[canihavu]

Although I have never been in an exclusive realtionship with a tranny, I would not consider myself a tranny chaser either. While love looking a pics of sexy trannys (I love looking at pics of sexy GGs for that matter), I am not trying to screw every tranny in the world. I think many of them a fascinating (the ones who I have IMed with from this site know this) and I enjoy the friendships I have with the few of them I know know in real life.

[whatsupwithat]

hey all

it was great to hear your thoughts, ideas, opinions, experiences.

looks like i came upon hungangels.com at a turning point considering all the farewells and whatnot being thrown about.

perhaps, someday, we can all find some common ground..and respect for each other.

[tommytuu]

Not a chaser, not a fan, not really an admirer. Just sexual arousal.

[axman]

Actually I let the girls chase me.
:wink:

[Caleigh]

I have to say that yours was one of the most well written
posts on this topic. And I found it refreshing and interesting
that you include yourself as a member of the TG community.
I don't think that anyone would argue that when one of those
late transitioning Ts's wives is part of the TG community and
therefore if you are the bf of a TG/TS then you are part of
the TG community as well.

I would put some boundaries on that though. I think that
closeted guys who use a Ts escort now and then and keep
the whole thing from friends and family are NOT part of the
TG community. I say that because to be part of a community,
to really be a member, you have to take the upside with the
downside. It means being prepared to be counted among them.

The corollary is that post-op women who are in stealth mode
and no longer socialize with other TG/TS and see themselves
as women aren't part of the TG community either. They are
part of the "straight" community.

[werwt22]

Okay, I just joined and this may not make me very popular, but I have to get it off my chest.

Okay...I am NOT an "admirer" or a freakin' "tranny chaser". My preference for transsexuals happens to be my sexuality, who and what I'm attracted to. I'm really sick of seeing guys like myself referred to by transsexuals as one of the aforementioned names.

Look, I know society treats transsexuals as oddities and lacks understanding of the decisions you made for yourself. I also understand the sick and twisted cyclical oppression that goes on in our community.

Wait a minute...did I say "OUR" community?

That's right, I said OUR community. The simple fact of the matter is that when I realized my sexuality and entered into a relationship with a transsexual, I became part of the transgender community. I, as a young white male open about who he was and is, became an oddity, a pervert in society's eyes.

And I'm not. Pisses me off to no end.

So, I refuse society's labeling of me. And of you. And because of that, I also refuse to let you, the people I support and love and am attracted to, demean me and the men who are similar to me for liking and supporting you for who and what you are.

peace.

Wow.....that was pretty deep man. I completely agree. Welcome =D.

[Marilyn]

Okay, I just joined and this may not make me very popular, but I have to get it off my chest.

Okay...I am NOT an "admirer" or a freakin' "tranny chaser". My preference for transsexuals happens to be my sexuality, who and what I'm attracted to. I'm really sick of seeing guys like myself referred to by transsexuals as one of the aforementioned names.

Look, I know society treats transsexuals as oddities and lacks understanding of the decisions you made for yourself. I also understand the sick and twisted cyclical oppression that goes on in our community.

Wait a minute...did I say "OUR" community?

That's right, I said OUR community. The simple fact of the matter is that when I realized my sexuality and entered into a relationship with a transsexual, I became part of the transgender community. I, as a young white male open about who he was and is, became an oddity, a pervert in society's eyes.

And I'm not. Pisses me off to no end.

So, I refuse society's labeling of me. And of you. And because of that, I also refuse to let you, the people I support and love and am attracted to, demean me and the men who are similar to me for liking and supporting you for who and what you are.

peace.

:peanutbutter :wink: :) It was so nice to read this post!! That's a true man who simply loves Trans Women...wheather society feels is wrong or right he sticks to his beliefs and feelings....that is what makes a relationship with a tswoman last and strong...!!! Too bad many, many, many Tswomen lovers are still afraid to be open about it! Saaaad

[whatsupwithat]

Much respect to the guys and gals who understand where I'm coming from. Especially the gals. Thank you. It makes me proud to be part of the community and to support it in any way I can. :)

[vamxcore]

trannys are built 4 sex! :twisted:

[BlackAdder]

Last Post? Chaser all the way...

[BeardedOne]

Last Post? Chaser all the way...

Did you say "Chase her away"? :lol:

Effectively the same. :shrug

[Ecstatic]

Sounds like "chase her all day"!

[tonkatoy]

I am not a chaser....more of a trapper.

[InHouston]

:arrow: Da Nile is not just another river in Egypt pal.

[tonkatoy]

well, i have been with the same ts girl for three and a half years, and she lives with me........but it might just be a fling, i'm not sure.

[Kriss]

Last Post? Chaser all the way...

Did you say "Chase her away"? :lol:

Effectively the same. :shrug

I thought he said "STRAIGHT! - No chaser"

[phobun]

Okay, I just joined and this may not make me very popular, but I have to get it off my chest.

Okay...I am NOT an "admirer" or a freakin' "tranny chaser". My preference for transsexuals happens to be my sexuality, who and what I'm attracted to. I'm really sick of seeing guys like myself referred to by transsexuals as one of the aforementioned names.

Look, I know society treats transsexuals as oddities and lacks understanding of the decisions you made for yourself. I also understand the sick and twisted cyclical oppression that goes on in our community.

Wait a minute...did I say "OUR" community?

That's right, I said OUR community. The simple fact of the matter is that when I realized my sexuality and entered into a relationship with a transsexual, I became part of the transgender community. I, as a young white male open about who he was and is, became an oddity, a pervert in society's eyes.

And I'm not. Pisses me off to no end.

So, I refuse society's labeling of me. And of you. And because of that, I also refuse to let you, the people I support and love and am attracted to, demean me and the men who are similar to me for liking and supporting you for who and what you are.

peace.


It seems like it prisses him off to no end. The dude needs to chill.

[gaiseric]

I hope he's chilled by now - he posted that in 2006

[tsparisangelline]

Yuck @ sexuality

who wants a girl because she has a dick between her legs?

Other than those who are clients and are willing to pay for it.

[TSMichelleAustin]

You posted a great topic, and I believe you are a part of our community. With that being said I dont think many ts women would agree with that. I think so many of us have been burned by men we are numb to the really good ones. I have a partner I have been with for over two years. He supports me and loves me and accepts my work/lifestyle as you would say. He knows it's what I do and that I only love him. But I see when we are out how gay men and trans women will treat him differently because he is openly out with a transsexual. Even some of my good friends when out will treat him different then if we were all at our house or theirs for company. I don't know what it is exactly but I think gay people think he is a freak and don't understand how he can have sex with a ts and not a man. And I think ts women think he is the typically tranny chaser. He never hits on girls, he might say hey you look nice tonight or something but never tries to hit on them. He just enjoys people and talking! It's sad because those men who are true tranny chasers and I have met many to say, have ruined it for the good guys!!!

So I respect men who are like yourself and take part into our community and accepting us for who we are! Girls there are many great guys out there, just open your heart and catch one! Not all of em are out to hurt you. And the same for the boys, there are some great girls out there who are not full of themselves and are genuine. Who have hearts too!

[phobun]

Yuck @ sexuality

who wants a girl because she has a dick between her legs?

Other than those who are clients and are willing to pay for it.


... guys who like to bottom, which is about 99% of the studs on HA forum.

[dderek123]

You posted a great topic, and I believe you are a part of our community. With that being said I dont think many ts women would agree with that. I think so many of us have been burned by men we are numb to the really good ones. I have a partner I have been with for over two years. He supports me and loves me and accepts my work/lifestyle as you would say. He knows it's what I do and that I only love him. But I see when we are out how gay men and trans women will treat him differently because he is openly out with a transsexual. Even some of my good friends when out will treat him different then if we were all at our house or theirs for company. I don't know what it is exactly but I think gay people think he is a freak and don't understand how he can have sex with a ts and not a man. And I think ts women think he is the typically tranny chaser. He never hits on girls, he might say hey you look nice tonight or something but never tries to hit on them. He just enjoys people and talking! It's sad because those men who are true tranny chasers and I have met many to say, have ruined it for the good guys!!!

So I respect men who are like yourself and take part into our community and accepting us for who we are! Girls there are many great guys out there, just open your heart and catch one! Not all of em are out to hurt you. And the same for the boys, there are some great girls out there who are not full of themselves and are genuine. Who have hearts too!

Really nice post! Thanks for sharing.

[tsparisangelline]

... guys who like to bottom, which is about 99% of the studs on HA forum.

lol, so true

[fred41]

Great post Michelle...one observation...some gay people (just like straight people) don't really understand TS either...that's why they don't understand a man that is with a TS. They (just like straight people) don't always see TS as women...they still see them as their former gay friends.
You two just go on doing your thing and being happy...Fuck everyone else's opinions.

[TSMichelleAustin]

Great post Michelle...one observation...some gay people (just like straight people) don't really understand TS either...that's why they don't understand a man that is with a TS. They (just like straight people) don't always see TS as women...they still see them as their former gay friends.
You two just go on doing your thing and being happy...Fuck everyone else's opinions.

Thanks Fred.... we do that! We rarely get flack from str8 people because most str8 people don't know I am TS unless it is told to them. But we pretty much live our lives the way we want! But ur right people dont understand it all around most of the time. He never was only with one ts before me, and he met her at a party and had no clue... he liked her for her. He happened to meet me while he was working, had no idea... he just likes us for the people we are not our anatomy.

[Mari_Mar]

So I respect men who are like yourself and take part into our community and accepting us for who we are! Girls there are many great guys out there, just open your heart and catch one! Not all of em are out to hurt you. And the same for the boys, there are some great girls out there who are not full of themselves and are genuine. Who have hearts too!

This is so true! I'm with an amazing man, who plainly sees me as his woman. We treat each other with respect, and equality, and have a very nurturing relationship. It wasn't easy, but we found each other. It's out there!

[fred41]

Thanks Fred.... we do that! We rarely get flack from str8 people because most str8 people don't know I am TS unless it is told to them. But we pretty much live our lives the way we want! But ur right people dont understand it all around most of the time. He never was only with one ts before me, and he met her at a party and had no clue... he liked her for her. He happened to meet me while he was working, had no idea... he just likes us for the people we are not our anatomy.


Terrific...never let envious people try to tear that apart..there's a lot of haters in the world all around

Well good luck to the both of you...sounds like you have a shot at something good.

[fred41]

This is so true! I'm with an amazing man, who plainly sees me as his woman. We treat each other with respect, and equality, and have a very nurturing relationship. It wasn't easy, but we found each other. It's out there!

Lol...the only thing that confuses me is that I thought I read in one of your posts that you prefer women or other Ts...I'm sorry I must have misunderstood...(maybe I smoke to much weed...lol)

anyways ,..congratulations on a great partnership!!

[Mari_Mar]

Lol...the only thing that confuses me is that I thought I read in one of your posts that you prefer women or other Ts...I'm sorry I must have misunderstood...(maybe I smoke to much weed...lol)

anyways ,..congratulations on a great partnership!!


Hahaha! I do prefer women to men. I wasn't looking for a bf when I met my man. But, we totally hit it off, the chemistry was there, and things have been great! I'm pansexual. Girl leaning, but that doesn't mean I don't like guys too... ^_^

EDIT: Thanks for the congrats! ;)

[scroller]

Yuck @ sexuality

who wants a girl because she has a dick between her legs?


Every guy on a board called "HungAngels".

[FreddieGomez]

Okay, I just joined and this may not make me very popular, but I have to get it off my chest.

Okay...I am NOT an "admirer" or a freakin' "tranny chaser". My preference for transsexuals happens to be my sexuality, who and what I'm attracted to. I'm really sick of seeing guys like myself referred to by transsexuals as one of the aforementioned names.

Look, I know society treats transsexuals as oddities and lacks understanding of the decisions you made for yourself. I also understand the sick and twisted cyclical oppression that goes on in our community.

Wait a minute...did I say "OUR" community?

That's right, I said OUR community. The simple fact of the matter is that when I realized my sexuality and entered into a relationship with a transsexual, I became part of the transgender community. I, as a young white male open about who he was and is, became an oddity, a pervert in society's eyes.

And I'm not. Pisses me off to no end.

So, I refuse society's labeling of me. And of you. And because of that, I also refuse to let you, the people I support and love and am attracted to, demean me and the men who are similar to me for liking and supporting you for who and what you are.

peace.

yeah you are. as long as you're a dude who likes trannies they gonna label you as one even tho i disagree with it myself because i am very picky when it comes to trannies. i aint one of those dudes who goes for anything in a wig jus because it got a dick....but from my understanding these chicks want dudes who aint never been wit a trannie before.

but from my knowledge there are two types of men into trannies, those who want the dick and those who don't...but the ones who dont seem to be in the minority. i personally don't care if a trannie has a dick or not because that's not what i look for in a trannie. i'd still have sex with a post-op nd i feel that separates me from these other dudes who chase trannies because they only want the trannie for her dick

[hwbs]

i don't know why people giving E such a hard time...he has more credibility in this community than anyone i know ...

[LittleGuy]

thanks for bumping a old thread

[Tarissa]

I have to say that yours was one of the most well written
posts on this topic. And I found it refreshing and interesting
that you include yourself as a member of the TG community.
I don't think that anyone would argue that when one of those
late transitioning Ts's wives is part of the TG community and
therefore if you are the bf of a TG/TS then you are part of
the TG community as well.

I would put some boundaries on that though. I think that
closeted guys who use a Ts escort now and then and keep
the whole thing from friends and family are NOT part of the
TG community. I say that because to be part of a community,
to really be a member, you have to take the upside with the
downside. It means being prepared to be counted among them.

The corollary is that post-op women who are in stealth mode
and no longer socialize with other TG/TS and see themselves
as women aren't part of the TG community either. They are
part of the "straight" community.

Caleigh, I agree with your comments in the first 2 paragraphs. I must disagree as a post-op woman with the last paragraph. I will always be a part of the TG community. I may not visit TG clubs frequently as I have been dating my "straight" boyfriend for several years. My transition was to become the woman that I always was...from birth. I am just living as a woman. I 100% support all in our community. Just because I am not active in the community does not mean that I do not love and support all of my fellow courageous women. Is an amputee that gets a prosthesis no longer part of the amputee community?

[Tepres]

i don't know why people giving E such a hard time...he has more credibility in this community than anyone i know ...

There's no reason to answer him since he no longer posts here.

[Mari_Mar]

[/COLOR]

Caleigh, I agree with your comments in the first 2 paragraphs. I must disagree as a post-op woman with the last paragraph. I will always be a part of the TG community. I may not visit TG clubs frequently as I have been dating my "straight" boyfriend for several years. My transition was to become the woman that I always was...from birth. I am just living as a woman. I 100% support all in our community. Just because I am not active in the community does not mean that I do not love and support all of my fellow courageous women. Is an amputee that gets a prosthesis no longer part of the amputee community?

I agree. And still frequent tranny locales/the community. No matter how much my bf sees me as his woman, I not only know where I came from, I have friends in the T community. Plus, I can't wait for the day that we're all seen as legitimate members of society.

[Tarissa]

I agree. And still frequent tranny locales/the community. No matter how much my bf sees me as his woman, I not only know where I came from, I have friends in the T community. Plus, I can't wait for the day that we're all seen as legitimate members of society.
Cheers Mari!! And we will be seen as legitimate members of society when we "See Ourselves" as legitimate members of society. We are already just like anyone else. We just need to present ourselves as such so the haters have nothing to hate.

[Mari_Mar]

Cheers Mari!! And we will be seen as legitimate members of society when we "See Ourselves" as legitimate members of society. We are already just like anyone else. We just need to present ourselves as such so the haters have nothing to hate.

I know exactly what you mean. :)

[Paladin]

Great post Michelle...one observation...some gay people (just like straight people) don't really understand TS either...that's why they don't understand a man that is with a TS. They (just like straight people) don't always see TS as women...they still see them as their former gay friends.
You two just go on doing your thing and being happy...Fuck everyone else's opinions.
Which makes it even stranger when one considers that in many cities, the only place where TGs congregate is gay bars...

[whatsupwithat]

It seems like it prisses him off to no end. The dude needs to chill.

Hahaha! Yes, the dude has chilled a little. :) But I see from some of the posts that follow yours that the issue still lingers. And perhaps it isn't just one issue.

There are tranny chasers, just like there are players. They exist. One lover or girl isn't enough. It's about the sexual conquest, the new experience, having your cake and eating everyone elses too. We can all agree guys (and girls) like this exist and will continue to do so.

But on the flip side there are people in genuine relationships or who date within the community (quite often confused with chasers because everyone in this community knows everyone). These guys and gals really have no defining term. When their parents or family ask if their gay, straight, or bi, or whatever...each and every time, depending on the person, a different answer is given. There's no continuity. Many times it comes down to no label and a declaration of love. That's beautiful. But it doesn't help understanding in a society based upon definition of people, places, things...and sexualities.

I saw a comment "Yuck @ sexuality". Why yuck? Beyond genitals, where the discussion always seems to end up, how much do we really know about the interplay between biology and psychology among other things that lead us to desire someone? I have no idea what led me to desire my long term trans partner as I did. It was inherent within me, part of my makeup...probably since birth. When we kissed, I felt something more, deep, that I didn't get from others. I didn't grab for her genitals in some sort of crazy rush as if that's all that mattered. I liked kissing, making out, holding her, stopping and looking into each others eyes. It was real. It was intense. And when we got naked, the desire didn't stop. I wanted all of her - to touch, kiss, caress, make love to. And, no, I wasn't a secret bottom. And, no, it wasn't some dark fetishistic secret. We were genuinely in love and lust.

All of this came into play when someone used the tranny chaser term with me. I was offended. Not just for me. But for her. Do you understand perhaps why I went on that rant, does any of this make sense? I don't know.

There are a whole host of other issues (internalized transphobia, shame, societal prejudice, names, etc) that are part and parcel of our relationships with each other. But I honestly wish that we could learn to lift each other up as opposed to pushing each other down. Because, in the end, our own actions and words are just a mirror of what we think of ourselves.

[natina]

YouTube - RuPAUL 04. Tranny Chaser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0ESTguT0Ag)



YouTube - RuPaul - TRANNY CHASER (Behind the scenes) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_tWnfQVlns)


YouTube - RuPaul Tranny Chaser 2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-CWb8JTLr0)

[phobun]

Hahaha! Yes, the dude has chilled a little. :) But I see from some of the posts that follow yours that the issue still lingers. And perhaps it isn't just one issue.

There are tranny chasers, just like there are players. They exist. One lover or girl isn't enough. It's about the sexual conquest, the new experience, having your cake and eating everyone elses too. We can all agree guys (and girls) like this exist and will continue to do so.

But on the flip side there are people in genuine relationships or who date within the community (quite often confused with chasers because everyone in this community knows everyone). These guys and gals really have no defining term. When their parents or family ask if their gay, straight, or bi, or whatever...each and every time, depending on the person, a different answer is given. There's no continuity. Many times it comes down to no label and a declaration of love. That's beautiful. But it doesn't help understanding in a society based upon definition of people, places, things...and sexualities.

I saw a comment "Yuck @ sexuality". Why yuck? Beyond genitals, where the discussion always seems to end up, how much do we really know about the interplay between biology and psychology among other things that lead us to desire someone? I have no idea what led me to desire my long term trans partner as I did. It was inherent within me, part of my makeup...probably since birth. When we kissed, I felt something more, deep, that I didn't get from others. I didn't grab for her genitals in some sort of crazy rush as if that's all that mattered. I liked kissing, making out, holding her, stopping and looking into each others eyes. It was real. It was intense. And when we got naked, the desire didn't stop. I wanted all of her - to touch, kiss, caress, make love to. And, no, I wasn't a secret bottom. And, no, it wasn't some dark fetishistic secret. We were genuinely in love and lust.

All of this came into play when someone used the tranny chaser term with me. I was offended. Not just for me. But for her. Do you understand perhaps why I went on that rant, does any of this make sense? I don't know.

There are a whole host of other issues (internalized transphobia, shame, societal prejudice, names, etc) that are part and parcel of our relationships with each other. But I honestly wish that we could learn to lift each other up as opposed to pushing each other down. Because, in the end, our own actions and words are just a mirror of what we think of ourselves.


I've seen some of your postings in the past, especially the one in which you tried to redefine transsexual as a man like yourself, in support of some new hybrid sexuality, and got a smack-down from Mandy. In your response above, your description of your feelings for your girlfriend is poignant, but I'm not sure what to make of all the platitudes that surround it. Perhaps you're a little too focused on how society perceives you and your interest in transgender women?

But you're right, this isn't an issue that has gone away. Just recently, some guys got incensed about this term, which is why I went looking to see if things ever change at this forum, and why I thought it was fair to bump this old rant.

Importantly, guys tend to focus on the "chaser" part and feel incensed about it. But if they were really into the community, their outrage would be directed at the use of the boorish epithet "tranny." But this skewed focus is the mark of a true chaser, someone who is fixated on himself.

Chasers can appear in many forms:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chaser&defid=1879806

Just because someone sees himself as forming "genuine relationships" and dating transgender women exclusively doesn't mean that he's not a chaser. Most chasers don't see themselves as self-focused. But they are self-focused, because their pursuit (or chase) is about fulfilling their own internal cravings for a particular body type or body part, and appreciating the girl as a distinct individual is always secondary. Too often, the desire to immerse oneself "in the community" is a means to an end, and not necessarily a noble endeavor.

So I think there there are many unwitting chasers chasing about in the community. But of course none of this may apply to you. I've never met you and you may be a very honorable guy with good intentions.

[MDM23]

Phobun you sound like a lefty wankish social worker type.

Have you ever met a TS in real life?

[LittleGuy]

ummm phobun is a ts

[dderek123]

ummm phobun is a ts

Jing lor?

(Really?)