TG for pay?

[palomo7531]

Do you know if any TG girls only became TG for the money or because of family pressure? I’m sure it’s happened but you don’t hear about it regularly. Also I wonder how man TG girls are still only attracted to GG girls but do scenes with guys for the money?

[Fitzcarraldo]

Do you know if any TG girls only became TG for the money or because of family pressure? I’m sure it’s happened but you don’t hear about it regularly. Also I wonder how man TG girls are still only attracted to GG girls but do scenes with guys for the money?

What?!

[SXFX]

Kimber James ..... didn't she say that the last few years of her "work" was to just make extra cash ?

[palomo7531]

What?!

I saw in Iran they would rather have a trans daughter than a gay son. Matter of fact they recommended having surgery to become a woman than stay a gay man.

[SXFX]

yeah actually......in Iran it's against the law to be gay.....but trans is ok.....figure that shit out!

[Cereal Escapist]

Do you know if any TG girls only became TG for the money or because of family pressure? I’m sure it’s happened but you don’t hear about it regularly. Also I wonder how man TG girls are still only attracted to GG girls but do scenes with guys for the money?

It depends on what you mean by "became TG."

There are performers that essentially dress in drag and never go the hormone route for porn pay. I would suggest that they are likely NOT transgender people if that were the case.

I would contest that no one ever "becomes transgender." you are either comfortable wit your gender matching your sex or you are not. the difference is that not everyone who believes their gender does not match their sex actually transitions AND to further complicate matters, what "transitioning" really means also differs from person to person, culture to culture.

As to link the first part of your query with the idea of family pressure, there are some brazilian performers that detransitioned due to family pressures so it could be that some of them transitioned for the wrong reasons as well. It is hard to say.

Finally, there are some medical cases where at birth, due to defects, parents have had to make a choice about how to raise a child, either as a boy or girl so, while that is not family pressure exactly, the choice could have proven wrong.

[filghy2]

Kimber James ..... didn't she say that the last few years of her "work" was to just make extra cash ?

Given she's had SRS I think it's pretty unlikely she turned transsexual just for the money. Some tgirls do porn or escorting just to pay for their SRS, but that's a different issue.

[filghy2]

Do you know if any TG girls only became TG for the money or because of family pressure? I’m sure it’s happened but you don’t hear about it regularly. Also I wonder how man TG girls are still only attracted to GG girls but do scenes with guys for the money?

There are definitely some gay male escorts who also advertise as CD escorts to earn extra $$, but I wouldn't classify them as tgirls. I find it inconceivable that anyone who thought of themselves as a man would take hormones or get breast implants just for financial gain, particularly given all the social pressures that still apply to transsexuals.

[SydneyFarron]

Do you know if any TG girls only became TG for the money or because of family pressure? I’m sure it’s happened but you don’t hear about it regularly. Also I wonder how man TG girls are still only attracted to GG girls but do scenes with guys for the money?

As a trans woman who is generally attracted to other women, but enjoys doing occasional scenes with guys, the answer to this question is absolutely unequivocally no on all points. I didn't transition for porn, and I don't know of or have heard of any girl who would be crazy enough to do that. First of all, there's no money in it, and most girls lose their family, friends and even jobs when they transition and plus it's (very) expensive, and can be very painful. And it's permanent. I was one of the lucky ones that didn't lose family, but I lost all of my friends. Quite a few girls are permanently disowned, become homeless or targets for abuse. There are only a small handful of girls in the industry who have anything near above average earnings, and those girls have been grinding non-stop for years. The trans women I know who are comfortable generally do things other than porn such as IT, programming, business owner, finance etc.

TLDR: trans women don't transition for porn, they do porn to pay for transition. There are no monetary or social benefits to being trans.

[josehip]

this thread is offensive in so many levels.

[Fitzcarraldo]

As a trans woman who is generally attracted to other women, but enjoys doing occasional scenes with guys, the answer to this question is absolutely unequivocally no on all points. I didn't transition for porn, and I don't know of or have heard of any girl who would be crazy enough to do that. First of all, there's no money in it, and most girls lose their family, friends and even jobs when they transition and plus it's (very) expensive, and can be very painful. And it's permanent. I was one of the lucky ones that didn't lose family, but I lost all of my friends. Quite a few girls are permanently disowned, become homeless or targets for abuse. There are only a small handful of girls in the industry who have anything near above average earnings, and those girls have been grinding non-stop for years. The trans women I know who are comfortable generally do things other than porn such as IT, programming, business owner, finance etc.

TLDR: trans women don't transition for porn, they do porn to pay for transition. There are no monetary or social benefits to being trans.

Thanks for providing some knowledgeable insight, and for doing it so gracefully. I'm sure stuff like this gets really old really fast.

[Stavros]

[QUOTE=SydneyFarron;1862382]

As a trans woman who is generally attracted to other women, but enjoys doing occasional scenes with guys, the answer to this question is absolutely unequivocally no on all points.
-- Around the late 1990s early millenium I read of some young Thai boys who temporarily transitioned into 'ladyboys' complete with implants to make money from the bar scenes in Bangkok and Pattaya, and when they had made what they wanted had the implants removed and reverted to being males and started a family. It was not common but it did happen and for all I know still does.

There are no monetary or social benefits to being trans.
Monetary and social benefits can benefit those people whose transition has enabled them to find peace in themselves, to give rigour and purpose to their identity and,as a result, has enabled them to function normally in society with a steady income from work, a career, friends, a social network and so on -and a few are now elected officials in local government in the USA.
If it benefits the individual, it can benefit society. Not everyone in our little world is transphobic.

[natina]

There are drag queens who transitioned with breasts implants /hormones and surgery for pageants and other competitions.

Gay for pay is still a thing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay-for-pay


https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5671cdf3e4b0648fe301fc26


QUEER VOICES
Here’s What This Straight Man Who Does ‘Gay For Pay’ Porn Wants You To Know
I’ve received a lot of hate because so many people have felt offended by what I do and that I do it as a straight guy


The latest episode of MTV’s “True Life” tackles a complex topic: straight dudes who have sex with men for money.

Titled, “True Life: I’m A Gay For Pay Pornstar,” the episode follows two straight men who struggle to balance getting paid to star in gay porn films with their lives as straight men with girlfriends.

[natina]

the tranny chaser, chaser

Gay guys who like straight guys who like guys dressed as girls

http://www.villagevoice.com/2011-06-...chaser-chaser/


http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=70933

[Cereal Escapist]

the tranny chaser, chaser

Gay guys who like straight guys who like guys dressed as girls

http://www.villagevoice.com/2011-06-...chaser-chaser/


http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=70933

i have never heard that term before BUT i definitely know one. One of my IT guys at work is a gay man that is into me quite a bit because, 1) I'm his type (a lumberjack bear type) and 2) he is incredibly turned on by the fact that I am turned on by transwomen!

[natina]

The Monetary ($$$$$$$$) benefits is if you are doing pageants, drag shows,Rupauls Drag race are and ashowgirl you get more dollars $$$$$$$$ for looking like Fish (GG ,cisgender,genetic girl) ext and not a man in a dress or dragqueen.


[QUOTE=SydneyFarron;1862382]

As a trans woman who is generally attracted to other women, but enjoys doing occasional scenes with guys, the answer to this question is absolutely unequivocally no on all points.
-- Around the late 1990s early millenium I read of some young Thai boys who temporarily transitioned into 'ladyboys' complete with implants to make money from the bar scenes in Bangkok and Pattaya, and when they had made what they wanted had the implants removed and reverted to being males and started a family. It was not common but it did happen and for all I know still does.

There are no monetary or social benefits to being trans.
Monetary and social benefits can benefit those people whose transition has enabled them to find peace in themselves, to give rigour and purpose to their identity and,as a result, has enabled them to function normally in society with a steady income from work, a career, friends, a social network and so on -and a few are now elected officials in local government in the USA.
If it benefits the individual, it can benefit society. Not everyone in our little world is transphobic.

[SydneyFarron]

-- Around the late 1990s early millenium I read of some young Thai boys who temporarily transitioned into 'ladyboys' complete with implants to make money from the bar scenes in Bangkok and Pattaya, and when they had made what they wanted had the implants removed and reverted to being males and started a family. It was not common but it did happen and for all I know still does.

Fair enough. Although this is referencing a situation where extreme poverty and the sex trade are the norm. Of lot of these individuals leave their family for big city "opportunities" made possible by foreign purchasing power (3000 baht is a lot to them but only $100 to you). An individual trying to help their family escape extreme poverty would qualify as a fringe case in my opinion and is not the norm.



Monetary and social benefits can benefit those people whose transition has enabled them to find peace in themselves, to give rigour and purpose to their identity and,as a result, has enabled them to function normally in society with a steady income from work, a career, friends, a social network and so on -and a few are now elected officials in local government in the USA.
If it benefits the individual, it can benefit society. Not everyone in our little world is transphobic.


Hmm. Just because transition is a solution to dysphoria doesn't mean that there aren't significant problems both financially and socially to being trans. It's a difficult life, and just because some manage to succeed doesn't mean that they succeeded because they were trans. They succeeded in spite of being trans.

I can't speak to how many people in the world are transphobic, but I do know that I lost all of my friends when I transitioned. A close friend was disowned by her family. Another friend of mine would have been homeless had I not let her move in with me temporally. Many girls I know in the industry were either homeless, disowned or abused at some point. Most girls I know are conspicuously over-represented in IT or programming. Many lose jobs, marriages and relationships when they transition, but carry on in spite of it. It's not atypical to spend 50k+ on transition-related costs. Whenever I go on a date, interview for a job, or do just about anything, I have to explain myself. People look at me weird half of the time. It's something that I'm always aware of and anxious about, and I'll never be free from it. Hardly a social or monetary benefit in my opinion.

[Murmdrum]

As a trans woman who is generally attracted to other women, but enjoys doing occasional scenes with guys, the answer to this question is absolutely unequivocally no on all points. I didn't transition for porn, and I don't know of or have heard of any girl who would be crazy enough to do that. First of all, there's no money in it, and most girls lose their family, friends and even jobs when they transition and plus it's (very) expensive, and can be very painful. And it's permanent. I was one of the lucky ones that didn't lose family, but I lost all of my friends. Quite a few girls are permanently disowned, become homeless or targets for abuse. There are only a small handful of girls in the industry who have anything near above average earnings, and those girls have been grinding non-stop for years. The trans women I know who are comfortable generally do things other than porn such as IT, programming, business owner, finance etc.

TLDR: trans women don't transition for porn, they do porn to pay for transition. There are no monetary or social benefits to being trans.

your post really put it into perspective...guess its something I never really thought about to deeply before...the sacrifices of losing family and all your friends...Im not sure why people can be so cruel and judgmental when someone does something that makes themselves happy...

[Tommy420]

Do you know if any TG girls only became TG for the money or because of family pressure? I’m sure it’s happened but you don’t hear about it regularly. Also I wonder how man TG girls are still only attracted to GG girls but do scenes with guys for the money?

Yes, I know of one or so she’s told me. I mean there is more to it than her family needed money but she has said that was her deciding factor.

[lexer]

There are definitely some gay male escorts who also advertise as CD escorts to earn extra $$...

Do you know some of them? I think that some CD on Chaturbate have also a boy account on the same website.

[Nikka]

Do you know some of them? I think that some CD on Chaturbate have also a boy account on the same website.


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