Anti-trans Lesbians. Wtf?

[dakota87]

Lesbian activists block Pride in London march to protest against trans womenOne of the activists shouted: 'A man who says he's a lesbian is a rapist'
https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/lesbian-activists-protest-against-trans-women-pride-london/#gs.xDC_Rqk

[giovanni_hotel]

The biggest enemy of transwomen are CIS women.

[dakota87]

I had no idea that such animus existed against trans community by others in the LGBTQ community.

[Gillian]

The biggest enemy of transwomen are CIS women.
TERFs in fact. Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists.

They're a bolshy lot and the Pride festival owners have denounced them. However, many will ask why did Pride let them get to the head of the march in the first place.

Germaine Greer is probably the best known TERF ...

[SanDiegoPervySage]

I had no idea that such animus existed against trans community by others in the LGBTQ community.

They all dont like each other. LGBT is just an umbrella term like "people of color".

[holzz]

gays can be as bigoted as anybody else. there are blacks who hate whites, or Hispanics who hates blacks or whites. or gays who hate straights. it's not as black and white as saying x is from a marginalised group, so they can never be bigoted.

that said, Milo Yiannopolous hates trans. it's not all lovey-dovey. some even say Blaire White is transphobic, when she is trans. i think some gays reckon because transitioning is to cure/treat gender dysphoria, they don't want to be lumped in a mental illness. it was Milo says anyhow.

[BellaBellucci]

The biggest enemy of transwomen are CIS women.

I have to disagree. I think it's gay men. If you're not with them, you're against them. Since the LGBT is really what I call the GGGG, TERFs are actually their unwitting pit bulls on this issue.

Cis women aren't our enemies, but they are wary and sometimes outright scared of us. However, they are hardly ever aggressive about it.

And the least prevalent, but most dangerous type of transphobe is the trans-panic cis male. Many don't even require a sexual encounter to be triggered, and they're the ones killing us.

~B

[Nick Danger]

Reminds me of the time I had to do 3 days in the Santa Barbara county jail for a DUI back in the 80's. All the inmates were segregated by race, which was a big problem because of the overcrowding. Some of the inmates who were obviously not going to be any trouble - like me - were put in a kind of "spillover" cell where the races were mixed, except for blacks. So in that cell were mostly your more Americanized Mexicans, couple of Asians, and the handful of whites who weren't all tatted and ganged up - but it was mostly Mexicans. I was bunked next to an older Mexican guy named Guillermo and he and I became pretty good buds for those few days; he had a chess set and a deck of cards.

I remember asking Guillermo why there were no blacks in there. I expected the answer to be that there were very few blacks who weren't in gangs, but he surprised me. He said "Because Mexicans hate n_____s."

This situation seems...similar to me. You'd think Mexicans and blacks would kinda have a "whites are the mutual enemy" attitude, but that wasn't the case. Apparently it's the same with lesbians and t-girls. You'd think they would be united against institutional oppression but I guess not.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Reminds me of the time I had to do 3 days in the Santa Barbara county jail for a DUI back in the 80's. All the inmates were segregated by race, which was a big problem because of the overcrowding. Some of the inmates who were obviously not going to be any trouble - like me - were put in a kind of "spillover" cell where the races were mixed, except for blacks. So in that cell were mostly your more Americanized Mexicans, couple of Asians, and the handful of whites who weren't all tatted and ganged up - but it was mostly Mexicans. I was bunked next to an older Mexican guy named Guillermo and he and I became pretty good buds for those few days; he had a chess set and a deck of cards.

I remember asking Guillermo why there were no blacks in there. I expected the answer to be that there were very few blacks who weren't in gangs, but he surprised me. He said "Because Mexicans hate n_____s."

This situation seems...similar to me. You'd think Mexicans and blacks would kinda have a "whites are the mutual enemy" attitude, but that wasn't the case. Apparently it's the same with lesbians and t-girls. You'd think they would be united against institutional oppression but I guess not.

Yeah lots of Latinos dont like blacks(afro Latinos are treated like shit on their home countries). That black and brown unity thing is bullshit for the most part.

[Cereal Escapist]

once ANY group of people start to identify with specific traits in themselves and define themselves as such, by their very nature, they become exclusionary.

Bigotry is about everywhere. Look inside the transgender community if you must and the divide between drag queens and the more transitioned for evidence of dissent and disagreement.

it comes as NO SURPRISE that transgender disdain comes from the str8 and gay community, from both cisgender men and women, irrespective of their preferences between the sheets.

[MrFanti]

From what I've seen, some of it has to do with MTF transgender women in genetic female sports (where there are quite a few lesbian athletes)....

[natina]

Columnist Julie Burchill: Trans women are just ‘big white blokes who have cut their cocks off’ .


Columnist and writer Julie Burchill has caused offence to the trans community yet again by taking to the comments section of an article to claim that trans women shouldn’t call themselves women.
The self-described ‘radical feminist’ previously wrote for the Guardian,Observer, Mirror and Belfast Telegraph but now more frequently writes for the Spectator.
Burchill made the comments on a Vice Magazine column by prominent trans activist and journalist Paris Lees, in which she talked about catcalling, and questioned whether enjoying the attention of men in the street effectively made her a “bad feminist.”

The Sugar Rush writer said: “Paris, you like it because you ARE still a YOUNG GAY BOY. And that’s what YOUNG GAY BOYS LIKE! Bless!
“Paris, if you were a BORN WOMAN, bothered since the age of 12 by GROWN MEN, you wouldn’t find it fun. You’d find it boring, wearisome, wearing. When you’re a plain old trans, ten years from now, you’ll get a big old identity crisis on, if you rely on random lechery for self-esteem.
“I bet B*tch [Paris Lees] will come up with a ‘sexy reason’ for foot-binding next. [Female Genital Mutilation], even. Didn’t I hear that a ‘transwoman’ thought we Radical Feminists were fussing about too much about FGM? What price the genital mutilation of a 7 year old brown-skinned girl child when THE MOST IMPORANT THING IN THE WORLD is big white blokes having their cocks cut off on the NHS?
She also called another commenter who questioned whether the comments had come from the real Julie Burchill a “BELL END”.

Paris Lees wrote the piece for Vice Magazine
She went on: “No human who did not grow up as a girl can call themselves a woman. Any more than a white human can become a black human. Delude yourselves all you like, but in the way you lot harass born women, your bully boy side always shines through. And no amount of lipstick and plastic tits can cover that up.”
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Lesbian activists block Pride in London march to protest against trans womenOne of the activists shouted: 'A man who says he's a lesbian is a rapist'
https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/lesbian-activists-protest-against-trans-women-pride-london/#gs.xDC_Rqk

[natina]

Trans-exclusionary radical feminism (or TERF) is a subgroup of radical feminism characterized by transphobia, especially transmisogyny,[2] and hostility to the third wave of feminism. They believe that the only real women™ are those born with a vagina and XX chromosomes.[3] They wish to completely enforce the classic gender binary, supporting gender essentialism.

The term "TERF" is not used by those in the group, who consider it a damnable slur, and think of themselves as perfectly reasonable radical feminists[4] (and, indeed, the only thing that should be called "feminism"). Some radical feminists, second wave feminists, and lesbian feminists/political lesbians (groups known to contain TERFs, though they are not necessarily all TERFs) have spoken out against transphobia and transmisogyny within their ranks.[5][6]

TERFs (and SWERFs) are a tiny subset of feminism,[7] but an unduly influential one: legislators seeking feminist input will often get an academic TERF, who will then get transphobia into law.[8] Their doxxing,[9] trolling,[10] picketing,[11] and generally abusive behaviour has earned them the title of "Westboro Baptist Church of feminism"[12]; because they are to feminism what the WBC is to Christianity.[13] They are, in short, a hate group that by no means represents mainstream feminism.[14]


http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Trans-e...dical_feminism

Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists (TERFs)
Out of respect for actual RadFems, the trans community has stopped supporting the appropriation of the radical feminist identity by what is essentially a hate group. Thus, we instead use Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists (TERFs).


https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Trans-exclusionary_radical_feminism

[Torris]

Liberal intolerance.

[Paladin]

Wtf???

[giovanni_hotel]

Reminds me of the time I had to do 3 days in the Santa Barbara county jail for a DUI back in the 80's. All the inmates were segregated by race, which was a big problem because of the overcrowding. Some of the inmates who were obviously not going to be any trouble - like me - were put in a kind of "spillover" cell where the races were mixed, except for blacks. So in that cell were mostly your more Americanized Mexicans, couple of Asians, and the handful of whites who weren't all tatted and ganged up - but it was mostly Mexicans. I was bunked next to an older Mexican guy named Guillermo and he and I became pretty good buds for those few days; he had a chess set and a deck of cards.

I remember asking Guillermo why there were no blacks in there. I expected the answer to be that there were very few blacks who weren't in gangs, but he surprised me. He said "Because Mexicans hate n_____s."

This situation seems...similar to me. You'd think Mexicans and blacks would kinda have a "whites are the mutual enemy" attitude, but that wasn't the case. Apparently it's the same with lesbians and t-girls. You'd think they would be united against institutional oppression but I guess not.



I see this hostility between Blacks and Latinos more on the West coast than any other part of the country.

It's not like that in Texas so much. Or down South. Or on the East coast.

I was told the beef between Mexicans and Blacks in Cali was more related to gang affiliations and turf wars.

But yeah, a lot of latinos are racist against Blacks. As are Asians and most other minorities bigoted against AA.

[dakota87]

I have to disagree. I think it's gay men. If you're not with them, you're against them. Since the LGBT is really what I call the GGGG, TERFs are actually their unwitting pit bulls on this issue.

Cis women aren't our enemies, but they are wary and sometimes outright scared of us. However, they are hardly ever aggressive about it.

And the least prevalent, but most dangerous type of transphobe is the trans-panic cis male. Many don't even require a sexual encounter to be triggered, and they're the ones killing us.

~B

TERFS?
All this lingo. Lol. Who are the TERFs?

[dakota87]

TERFs in fact. Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists.

They're a bolshy lot and the Pride festival owners have denounced them. However, many will ask why did Pride let them get to the head of the march in the first place.

Germaine Greer is probably the best known TERF ...

I’d not heard of TERFs before. Lol

[MrFanti]

.I was told the beef between Mexicans and Blacks in Cali was more related to gang affiliations and turf wars.

No, it's a much deeper racism against us Blacks....
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35981727
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mexico-finally-recognized-its-black-citizens-but-thats-just-the-beginning_us_568d2d9ce4b0c8beacf50f6b

[krissy4u]

I said this at the beginning of the year in another thread... I have a feeling it is only going to get worse.

"I don't have any evidence to support this view, but I think this is going to be a trend in 2018. I just have a weird feeling that a backlash against the TS community is coming, and it will be GG..."

[josehip]

man, fucking those terfs! pride only exists because the fights of marsha p johnson and sylvia rivera. fucking terfs say that both marsha and sylvia were in fact dragqueens. ugh, I hate this so much!