REAL QUESTION FOR ALL THE GIRLS...NO SHADE ITS A LEGIT Q.

[YasminLee]

i private u my # mega. let talk...tell me we're u're coming from and ill respectly tell you what we are all about. p.s. promise i would't charge you for the call.

[BeardedOne]

p.s. promise i would't charge you for the call.

I gotta start taking notes. Mega's got a system. :lol:

[shemaleking]

lol nice question!

[BeardedOne]

BUT YOU NOTICE HOW THE GIRLS AVOID THIS QUESTION....THEY CALL ME A HATER BUT ......

I thought it was 'cuz they were all on conference call witchoo. :lol:

[GroobySteven]

They don't avoid it, they just don't give a shit about the questions on this forum as I suspect most of the guys here don't either.
It is a personal bug in your arse which you keep on bringing up here all the time - it's also a question posed which you're only wanting one answer to.
seanchai

[hwbs]

:popcorn

[TomSelis]

I think it's an interesting question, one that I'd like to see answers from the girls. (at least a couple)

Over the last couple of weeks, there's been some discussion on the types of things being bandied. Seems like an interesting topic to me.

[BrendaQG]

If my nephew, who knows how to act around me, were to ask I would introduce him.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

i would want my brother to be happy- wether he dated a tranny, a man, or a 400 pound woman.

if he was willing to accept that his oartner was an escort or pornstar then that is all that matters. not my opinion.

i don't see why being in porn or an escort is such a criminalized thing morally to some people? why do people demonize the same girls that you jerk off too or look at in porn?

i am both- so i take offense to anyone being jusgemental towards me because i certainly don't tell anyone how they should live their lives.

and this has nothing to do with you personally mega- u know i have known you for many years and we are friends, but we still can agree to disagree. i don't agree with many of your views but that is not a personal attack.

[bighunkaman4u]

It's the same old story....if you know going in what she does for a living...and then you can't deal with it once the two of you become close...then you'd best learn to deal with your own insecurities...cause that's all it is...your problem. Don't make it hers.

[Legend]

Mega your logic of things are truly f**ked up, im sure a girl would want a guy who is an supposedly ex-drug dealer and user. For a guy to have so many skeletons in his closet you sure are a judgmental little guy. You are no where near perfect.

[GroobySteven]

Mega you're not a hater and you have a lot of valid points - it's the way you make them. You come across like a born-again bible thumper or an evangelist and I guess by your own admission (having to go to jail to get sorted out) you are. Your in the forum thumping people with your point of view and refusing to see others just to make your point - over and over. It's the same as somebody coming into my office to talk about converting me to their religion ... they're in the wrong place, their comments are falling on not deaf ears but hostile ears and they can be offensive. If I want to be converted, I'd go to their place of worship. If guys/girls want to be slammed for porn or escorting or similar, they'd go somewhere else, instead they come here to do what they enjoy.
seanchai

[BrendaQG]

I expect a man to have some common sense. A transsexual who looks good and is of typical dating age probably had to at least start hormones young. You do not get feminizing hormones, let alone surgeries, by being an eagle scout.

That is true of transsexuals in, out of, and who never did erotic work.

Perhaps they stole or worse. Would you prefere it if you T girlfreind were a theife and con artist?

[RubyTS]

my brother is worse than the girls.... lol. I would warn HER about him, He's a big man-whore. He'll make a girl fall 4 him then leave her stressing out over him! But seriously, it depends on the girl! I remember he had a crush on a ts but didnt know she was one... she tried to fool him so i had to put him on before he made a mistake.

[Reddman]

Your in the forum thumping people with your point of view and refusing to see others just to make your point - over and over.
seanchai


No lie!!! Over and over is a grand understatement more like friggin' 1600 plus times.

[RubyTS]

ALLANAH I TOTALLY RESPECT YOU AND LIKE I SAID IN POST TO WENDY, YOU , GIA , WENDY, VICKI ( LIKE HER NOT GIVE HER PROPS ) AND A HANDFUL OF OTHER GIRLS ARE BUSINESS WOMEN...YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS SITTING ON THE COUCH AT THE FLAMINGO, THIS IS A BUSINESS FOR YOU, YOU HAVE A A PLAN FOR THE FUTURE......BUT YOU GIRLS ARE RARE....I DO NOT HATE THE ESCORT, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND IT......I DO.....BUT I DO NOT UNDERSTND HOW GIRLS CAN CRY OVER A COMMON LOST LOVE INTEREST WHEN IN FACT THEY ARE IN THE GAME,......HEY HOW COME NOBODY READS THE PART WHEN I SAY I WENT TO JAIL FOR WHAT I DID, AND I TOOK IT LIKE A MAN......THESE GIRLS LOSE A BOYFRIEND DUE TO BEING AN ESCORT AND THE GUY CANT DEAL WITH THAT AND THEY FEEL ITS UNFAIR...THEY FEEL THEY DID ALL THEY COULD TO PROVE THEY LOVE HIM...I SAY ITS THE NATURE OF THE BEAST, THERES SACRIFICES AND CONSIQUENCES , I PAID MY DUES FOR WHERE I AM NOW...BUT I HAD TO AKE THAT CHANGE......AS FOR WHAT STARTED THISWHOLE SPIN , IT WS ALL ABOUT THE GIRL CRYING ABOUT HER LOSING LOVE AND HER THEN POSTING COCK PICS..BUT HEY WE DISCUSSED THAT DO DEATH, IM ALWAYS GOING TO VIEWED AS A HATER WHEN IN FACT IM FAR FROPM BEING A HATER.....ALLANAH YOU KNOW THAT, IM IN THIS FOR A LIFEMATE......I HVE NO PROBLEM WITH YOUR DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW, AT LEAST I HAVE THE BALLS TO SAY HOW I FEL TOO....I GET GUYS IN CLUBS AND PRIVATE MESSAGES TELLING ME THEY AGREE WITH ME, YET NONE OF THEM HAVE THE BALLS TO POST......IM NOT A HATER, IM A TS LOVER, BUT YOU WOULD BE LYNG IF SAID THAT MOST GIRLS COULD FUNCTION IN LIFE WITHOUT ESCORTING AND THAT MOST GIRLS HVE A WARPED VIEW OF THEMSELVES ....THEY LOVE THE WRONG GUYS .....BUT HEY IM JUST A VENOMOUS HATER, HERE TO START TROUBLE......WRONG!!!!!!

I RESPECT YOU ALLANAH, BUT NOT FOR YOUR TITS & ASS INSTEAD BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE YOU CAME FROM AND I KNOW WHERE YOUR GOING...I KNOW YOUR HEART ..WE GO BACK FAR, WAYYYY BEFORE WE BOTH GOT TO WHERE WE BOTH ARE IN OUR LIVES NOW......TITS & ASS ARE A DIME A DOZEN....YOU ARE WAY MORE THEN THAT IN MY EYES.....SAME WITH VICKI , WENDY, GIA AND A BUNCH F OTHER GIRLS I KNOW.........

im very surprised by you.

I personally wouldn't want to be in a relationship with a person who WOULD accept me as being an escort. But i wouldn't lie to them either. Everyone knows that sex work is a quick way to earn money to support one's transition. Some girls get sucked in to the lifestyle. Some don't. Bu at the same time, the majority of guys who CLAIM they want to be in a relationship with a ts REALLY JUST WANT BUTT and COCK. Your views are valid, but the way u go about saying them are so harsh.

I can count the # of times i have been fooled by a guy who says he wants to be serious with me, gets ass, and doesn't call back. The life of a ts can be lonely and people use that to their advantage. Best bet is catch a girl BEFORE she gets involed in sex work. Being pretty doesn't come cheap for some of us. And we all know how discriminating this world can be. Gays are more and MORE accepted as TS's are seen still as a totally different alien race! This i believe is due to the media's portrayment of us. So finding a legitimate job can be VERY difficult. And being that most guys just see us as objects of sexual desire... why not use that to our advantage?

As far as being involved with someone and still escorting, thats a mater of personal choice. There are plenty of alternate lifestyles out there which people find to their own liking. I would NEVER AGAIN quit escorting to be with someone. I made that mistake enough. When i stop it will be for ME. And out of respect for my relationship, if i felt it had the potential to be long term

[Solitary Brother]

I have to kinda take up for MEGA here.
He is a good guy...really.
He just vents sometimes.......he is the ONLY ONE on this board that can get away with it though!
I personally feel he is REPRESENTING certain guys frustration with the TS dating scene(not the TS trick SCENE)
I personally feel like there is someone for everyone out there.
There is ALWAYS a viable alternative.
Most girls(TS and otherwise) are only after the superficial.........Its sad but true.
They say they want a honest,faithful guy but in reality want the superficial.
I have seen it over and over again.
The superficial guy can make the smallest gesture and its as if he parted the sea like MOSES.
Meanwhile the non-superfical guy does everything he can to impress a girl but it doesnt have the same impact.
Its hard.
Its so fucking hard but thats the way life is.

[suckseed]

Okay, I've stayed out of this because I'm not in the scene at all. I'm not an asskisser either. But Ruby's post brings up a question. She says girls are escorting to pay for their transition. That's not true is it? Hell, eros girls and girls here look pretty damn transitioned already to this kid's eyes.
Isn't escorting/porn really just kind of like being a rock star? Nice work if you can get it? There's a cost, but there's also a lot of free time and attention and partying and sex? It doesn't sound too bad to me, except for the diseases and the cost to my capacity for intimacy and real love part. Plus, being a guy, if I had to have sex with any woman with the cash, that would mean there'd be times when I wasn't attracted at all. I mean, I don't see how anybody does that, but I'm sure unattractive men really appreciate it. Hell, everyone needs human contact.
But I'm getting off track. Escorting has its upside, right?
By the way, I just worked eight hours at a hotel for about $150.00.

[RubyTS]

I have to kinda take up for MEGA here.
He is a good guy...really.
He just vents sometimes.......he is the ONLY ONE on this board that can get away with it though!
I personally feel he is REPRESENTING certain guys frustration with the TS dating scene(not the TS trick SCENE)
I personally feel like there is someone for everyone out there.
There is ALWAYS a viable alternative.
Most girls(TS and otherwise) are only after the superficial.........Its sad but true.
They say they want a honest,faithful guy but in reality want the superficial.
I have seen it over and over again.
The superficial guy can make the smallest gesture and its as if he parted the sea like MOSES.
Meanwhile the non-superfical guy does everything he can to impress a girl but it doesnt have the same impact.
Its hard.
Its so fucking hard but thats the way life is.

i actually had a crush on mega at one time, im sure he remembers lol. Yes he is a good guy no doubt about it. MEGA U KNOW I HA?VE NOTHING BUT LOVE 4 U... ad i can totally understand where he is coming from. BUT WE ALL HAVE OUR FRUSTRATIONS! And i know what u mean.... people basically want what they cant have! Thats life. Girls build up walls because of the asses out there who use and abuse and leave us 4 trash. It can be equally hard for guys because most girls seem superficial. They're used to using men to get what they want. My suggestion is NOT looking for a tgirl in a escort scene. Sure allanah's partys can be fun and wild, but we all know the purpose behind most the girls attending. Not saying in anyway that this was Allanah's intention, but most ts party's are for girls to go meet clients and what not. I find that i treat people differently depending upon where we meet. Im much more likely to give a person a chance if i met him in school, grocery store, supermarket, laundromat...etc a oppose to clubs or online. There are a few good girls as well as guys out there. If u approach them on a sexual tip.... they're gonna think $. But a lot of the time, if a girl hears "im looking for something serious" she's gonna have u buy her a drink and dash lol.

Dating in general is hard these days, and when the majority of men WE deal with are married and cheating its hard to imagine that anyone can be faithful.

i cant speak 4 everyone else but i personally look or a lot of diversity in a person which is why im single lol. im very picky. But i like a guy that can be both dominant and submissive. Rough, yet also a teddy bear. All girls need lots of affection,and a guy who isn't afraid to be seen in public with the person he adores. Im not big on cars and cash, but a girl likes little things that show u care. Doesn't have to be a diamond neclace... just something that says i think about u when ur not around. Also i've learned that most ts's like a jealous man. Its their way of feeling like they have power, feeling valued and appreciated. But of course ts's have ts friends who will pick for flaws.... so they want a man who meets up to their friends standards as well. But not a horny tranny chaser who would have to be watched every second a ts gf is present. Im revealing secrets here lol

[RubyTS]

Okay, I've stayed out of this because I'm not in the scene at all. I'm not an asskisser either. But Ruby's post brings up a question. She says girls are escorting to pay for their transition. That's not true is it? Hell, eros girls and girls here look pretty damn transitioned already to this kid's eyes.
Isn't escorting/porn really just kind of like being a rock star? Nice work if you can get it? There's a cost, but there's also a lot of free time and attention and partying and sex? It doesn't sound too bad to me, except for the diseases and the cost to my capacity for intimacy and real love part. Plus, being a guy, if I had to have sex with any woman with the cash, that would mean there'd be times when I wasn't attracted at all. I mean, I don't see how anybody does that, but I'm sure unattractive men really appreciate it. Hell, everyone needs human contact.
But I'm getting off track. Escorting has its upside, right?
By the way, I just worked eight hours at a hotel for about $150.00..

o wow u work hard.... but aside from that lol. like i said some get sucked in some dont. It all depends on the girl. You're right, being a ts escort does have some fame included sometimes. If u watch my wording u will notice that i tend not to generalize. I prefer to give MY insights, opinions and personal stories. Because i cant speak for everyone. But sex work does pay pretty well. Maybe some girls get used to fast cash, maybe some enjoy the work itself..... best way to find out is ask the girl herself lol. Im sure you'll hear all different kinds of stories. Ive seen a lot of girls with self esteem issues who enjoy escorting because the clients make them feel appreciated. I have friends who say that they did it for their transition.... have gotten their srs and still continue.... ive also seen girls cry after being with clients.

[cam22001]

Mega you're not a hater and you have a lot of valid points - it's the way you make them. You come across like a born-again bible thumper or an evangelist and I guess by your own admission (having to go to jail to get sorted out) you are. Your in the forum thumping people with your point of view and refusing to see others just to make your point - over and over. It's the same as somebody coming into my office to talk about converting me to their religion ... they're in the wrong place, their comments are falling on not deaf ears but hostile ears and they can be offensive. If I want to be converted, I'd go to their place of worship. If guys/girls want to be slammed for porn or escorting or similar, they'd go somewhere else, instead they come here to do what they enjoy.
seanchai

[cam22001]

Seachai, your logic is wasted. This sort of complainer seeks attention so he'll go on and on and on, no matter what others say. He 's right and every other man/woman is wrong. Best way is to ignore them.

[GroobySteven]

IM FAR FROM A BIBLE BUSTER...NOT TO START DRAMA BUT THE BIBLE IS THE MOST UN ACCURATE BOOK EVER WRITTEN......IM NO HOLY ROLLER...I THINK GOD IS A TRANNY, A SHADDY NY TRANNY TO BOOT.....

I didn't say you were bible thumper, I said you were coming across like a one. Righteous in only your beliefs.
seanchai

[suckseed]

Whatever else is said...that's fucking horrible that your girlfriend died like that, man, and you had to see it. I don't know how I'd deal with that myself, probably end up in prison after hunting the asshole down myself. Jesus.

[GroobySteven]

Seachai, your logic is wasted. This sort of complainer seeks attention so he'll go on and on and on, no matter what others say. He 's right and every other man/woman is wrong. Best way is to ignore them.

Mega and I have been back and forth on stuff since the first week I was on this site - it's cool, I think we get across to each other a bit and there is no problem between us outside these posts. He has valid points to make - and I have ones which I feel are valid to make back - it's only discussions and squabbles.
seanchai

[spankrod]

Have you ever noticed that, those who know the least, tend to know it the LOUDEST? Insert coin to continue, MegaBodyNYC

[d]

Have you ever noticed that, those who know the least, tend to know it the LOUDEST? Insert coin to continue, MegaBodyNYC

you have one post and you're talking shit? cmon...mega's dropped more knowledge on these boards than 80% of all these posters combined...

[Legend]

Have you ever noticed that, those who know the least, tend to know it the LOUDEST? Insert coin to continue, MegaBodyNYC

you have one post and you're talking shit? cmon...mega's dropped more knowledge on these boards than 80% of all these posters combined...

Excessive rants shouldn't be consider as knowlegde in any shape or form.

[BrendaQG]

Have you ever noticed that, those who know the least, tend to know it the LOUDEST? Insert coin to continue, MegaBodyNYC

you have one post and you're talking shit? cmon...mega's dropped more knowledge on these boards than 80% of all these posters combined...

Spank is right. It is a long established universal convention on the internet that ALL CAPS==> Yelling a the top of your lungs. It takes getting used to to not read it like that.

From the outside looking in he seems to be complaining about many things at once. Basically he hates the behavior of some girls who are "in the life". Most people would then look for T-girls who are not living that life. I'll bet there are some people who will read this who think that all TS's are in that life... False


I crunched the numbers (it's what I do). Between 1/500 (Conway (http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/TSprevalence.html)) and 1/30,000 (DSM (http://www.genderpsychology.org/transsexual/dsm_iv.html)) live births will result in a transsexual averaging those gives a 1.25% chance a kid will be TS of any kind transitioning at any age. There are 300 Million people in the USA. So ther are about 375000 transsexuals of any kind in the USA. Transwomen outnumber transmen by about 20:1. So there are about 300000 transwomen. Most of them will be unavailable to date, married and much older than anyone here. Say 1/3 - 1/6 of them are of dating age and eligable. That leaves 100,000-50,000 t-girls Meagabody or anyone else could possibly hook up with. Based on what I see on this site and what one can pull up by googleing "transsexual porno" many of the same names come up. Correct me if I am wrong, I am just guessing about this number, about 4000 T-girls have made erotic work their life or are living "the life". Even if that number is doubled that leaves 42,000 t-girls who are eligable and of dating age. Megabody and any one else out there could look for one of those 42,000 women to socailaize with instead of fixating on only a small subset that are living "the life".

(one caveat is that though those ~42000 will have needed to do some dirty deeds at some point. Its the nature of being TS, of being such a smalll minority. The difference as far as I can tell is a matter of how much they have done).

[RubyTS]

RUBY YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU TOO....I ALWAYS SHOW YOU RESPECT AND I NEVER AM AHADDY TO ANY OF THE GIRLS..WE ( YOU & I ) BEEN FRIENDS FOR A VERY LONG TIME NOW....I GO TO THE CLUBS WITH A CREW OF GUYS AND THEY ARE ALL GOOD GUYS TOO....MAYBE I TYPE SHIT TO HARDCORE BUT MY POINT IS, I UNDERSTAND THE ESCORT THING, MY EX WAS A STRRET WALKING WHORE WHEN I MET HER...SHE WAS BEING BEATEN UP BY A TRICK OUT SIDE THE EDELWEISS DINER AND I RAN OUT AND TOOK THE GUY TO THE GROUND......I LOVED HER VERY MUCH, BUT THAT ESCORT SHIT ENDS WHEN WE START DATING SERIOUSLY......IF I MEET A GIRL AND SHE IS A HOOKER THATS FINE, BUT WHEN SHE BECOMES MRS MEGA THAT SHIT IS DONE....IS THAT SO BAD.......I HAD TO LISTEN TO YAZMINE GO INTO A RANTING SPIN ON THE PHONE ABOUT THE POOR PLIGHT OF THE TRANNY...WHEN THE FACT IS THE GUY WALKED OUT BECAUSE HE DIDNT LIKE THE ESCOIRTING AND DIDNT BELEIVE SHE WOULD QUIT......ITS SIMPLE AND VERY COMMON......YOU GOTTA DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO TO EAT.....IM NOT ANTI TS, THAT ASSININE TO EVEN THINK THAT...I HAVE FOUGHT FOR THEE GIRLS AND IM CLOSE FRIENDS WITH A LOT OF THEM.....BUT LETS BE REAL, THERE ARE A LOT OF LOST SOULS AND THESE TRICKS / SUGAR DADDIES MAKE THINGS WORSE...FEED A CAT AND IT WOILL NEVER HUNT ON ITS OWN, TEACH THE CAT TO HUNT AND IT WILL NEVER GO HUNGRY........RUBY, YOU ARE A GREAT GIRL, I RESPECT YOU AND IM GLAD THAT YOUR DOING GOOD...YOU HAVE COME A LONG WAY...BUT YOUNHAVE SEEN THE GIRLS COME & GO, YOU KNOW THE CRYING GAME........EVEN YOUR GIRL CHICKLET ( WITHOUT SAYING HER NAME HERE ) I LOVE HER AS WELL , BUT THERES A WASTE OF TALENT, LOST TO THE STREET...YOU EVEN TOLD ME THAT...IT HAPPENS, ITS PART OF THIS LIFE...THESE GIRLS ON HATERS ON HERE DONT KNOW THE NYCITY STREETS, I HELD MY GIRLS DEAD BODY IN MY ARMS.....SHE WAS BETRAYED BY FRIENDS......LISTEN FUCK YOU HATERS, DONT LIKE MY SHIT THEN KEEP YOUR HEADS IN THE SAND, YOUR KUNG FU IS NO MATCH FOR MY KUNG FU......RUBY , I WISH YOU PEACE & LOVE, IM STILL YOUR FRIEND...MY RESPECT TO YOU ALWAYS

i have nothing but respect and love 4 u 2 mega... i hope u find what u r looking for. Yeah, it is a shame what this lifestyle can do to some. I have seen the best and worst of it. Most girls like to be independant, and if they involve themselves with a guy whos not a broke lowlife street thug, then they call him a "sugardaddy" and milk him for all he has to offer.

[Legend]

Mega your logic of things are truly f**ked up, im sure a girl would want a guy who is an supposedly ex-drug dealer and user. For a guy to have so many skeletons in his closet you sure are a judgmental little guy. You are no where near perfect.

STOP IT!!!! STOP IT NOW!!!!

please please, reread ur posts before u click submit....u make no sense, its so difficult to read ur posts..."an supposedly ex drug dealer"??? what the fuck is that??? and he has no skeletons moron, he admits to his prior evils and says he paid his dues...a skeleton is something hidden that isnt being revealed...holy fuck, u make timmy look like stephen hawkins...

Ask the people whom post are more difficult to read mine or steriod boy.

[RubyTS]

on a more relative point though, MEGA, i dont think your question is a very fair one....and as an attorney i think i can speak on behalf of whores;)

u urself said that while u may not condone escorting or the like, youde forgive and forget a girls past and actually do understand the often necessity of it in the ts community...to then turn around to a segment of society who u feel is the most victimized and misunderstood and obviously still greatly discriminated against and ask them if theyde want a loved one to be involved with someone with their plight and issues, is unfair...to me its like saying do u want ur sister marrying a dirt poor guy with less than equal opportunity at advancement in life...of course ide want my loved ones to have as much and have it as easy in life as possible, and certain people provide less opportunity than others...but on the same note, i also realize the value and often rare occurrence of true love, and if such a situation arose with someone of lesser means or other struggles in life, ide have to say go for it sis...

theres no question that being involved on a ltr basis with a transgendered person involves issues and perhaps drama not generally present in more conventional relationships, whatever the fuck that means anymore...but hey, isnt love about overcoming apparent obstacles and making the best of things despite the hardships? cant u even say that the fruit is sweeter the farther u have to reach out on the branch for it? while im not saying it would be an easy hookup for me to do, im simply saying perhaps u posing the question wasnt really to ask anything, but as seanchai said, to rhetorically give ur opinion on it...but to label u a hater is ridiculous, its done by people who have issues with their life choices and cant handle legitimate oppositiion by real people to those choices, or by loser asskissers who think theyre getting brownie points for their staunch support of anything with boobs and a penis, with zero effort to even sprinkle some thought into their posts...

im impressed by ur choice of words.... proper vocabulary can hit so much harder

[Ecstatic]

I crunched the numbers (it's what I do). Between 1/500 (Conway (http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/TSprevalence.html)) and 1/30,000 (DSM (http://www.genderpsychology.org/transsexual/dsm_iv.html)) live births will result in a transsexual averaging those gives a 1.25% chance a kid will be TS of any kind transitioning at any age. There are 300 Million people in the USA. So ther are about 375000 transsexuals of any kind in the USA. Transwomen outnumber transmen by about 20:1. So there are about 300000 transwomen. Most of them will be unavailable to date, married and much older than anyone here. Say 1/3 - 1/6 of them are of dating age and eligable. That leaves 100,000-50,000 t-girls Meagabody or anyone else could possibly hook up with. Based on what I see on this site and what one can pull up by googleing "transsexual porno" many of the same names come up. Correct me if I am wrong, I am just guessing about this number, about 4000 T-girls have made erotic work their life or are living "the life". Even if that number is doubled that leaves 42,000 t-girls who are eligable and of dating age. Megabody and any one else out there could look for one of those 42,000 women to socailaize with instead of fixating on only a small subset that are living "the life".

(one caveat is that though those ~42000 will have needed to do some dirty deeds at some point. Its the nature of being TS, of being such a smalll minority. The difference as far as I can tell is a matter of how much they have done).
Interesting, Brenda. Those numbers are very much in line with the numbers I've crunched (I recognize your sources, and have cited others as well, though I don't have them to hand at the moment). It seems most people are either shocked or refuse to believe that the vast majority of M2F TS have not been escorts or sex workers, but it is true. What I wonder, and have not seen any statistics regarding, is the percentage of TS who would (by American standards) be considered beautiful who are or have been escorts. Many TS transition late in life and will never look sufficiently passable to work successfully as escorts (please note, I mean no offense here at all, simply looking at the statistics).

That aside, I have to agree with J on Mega's question being inherently unfair. It's like saying "you're a [fill in the blank--cab driver, fireman, lawyer, whatever], but would you want your sister to marry one?" Moreover, there are many different TS scenes, not just the one. Broaden your horizons.

[RubyTS]

i know LOTS of ts's. The only ones i know who DONT escort are in fact NOT very pretty or passable. I even know a ts lesbian with her srs, she does my electrolysis. Not dating material even if she were into guys. And the few hetero ts women i know that dont escort, do robberies, sell drugs or stiff the clients. Set them up... i have one friend who is pretty, shes thick... very thick, but pretty. She doesnt escort except once in a rere blue moon. Aside from that every tranny i know is a whore lol. But they all want to be loved, its just a matter of getting past the barriers and constantly proving loyalty

[scipio]

Mega your logic of things are truly f**ked up, im sure a girl would want a guy who is an supposedly ex-drug dealer and user. For a guy to have so many skeletons in his closet you sure are a judgmental little guy. You are no where near perfect.

STOP IT!!!! STOP IT NOW!!!!

please please, reread ur posts before u click submit....u make no sense, its so difficult to read ur posts..."an supposedly ex drug dealer"??? what the fuck is that??? and he has no skeletons moron, he admits to his prior evils and says he paid his dues...a skeleton is something hidden that isnt being revealed...holy fuck, u make timmy look like stephen hawkins...

Ask the people whom post are more difficult to read mine or steriod boy.

Yours are more difficult by far. At least his are in English. Even your last question there is written in Pidgin.

[BrendaQG]

@ Ecstatic and Ruby

I have replied to both of you in a thread I started. No reason to derail this one any more than it is.

Discussing the differences between TS's (http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=149960#149960)

[BlackDaVinci]

This all depends if you or anyone who replies to this are talking about an actual EMOTIONAL relationship; NOT a "hand-me-some-cash-later" booty call!! From what I've seen/read here, I don't think anybody IS looking for a real LTR except ME and I'm starting to wonder if I'm not just kidding myself about the very idea!!

[RubyTS]

This all depends if you or anyone who replies to this are talking about an actual EMOTIONAL relationship; NOT a "hand-me-some-cash-later" booty call!! From what I've seen/read here, I don't think anybody IS looking for a real LTR except ME and I'm starting to wonder if I'm not just kidding myself about the very idea!!

6.5? 10.5??? marry meeeeeee :peanutbutter :moon :D

[BlackDaVinci]

To Ruby, (and the rest of you);
A TS/TG relationship is no different than any other...If you insist on dealing with/hunting down guys who are flashy/players/dogs/playboys/don't want to commit,etc. of COURSE you're not going to get any loyalty!!! D'uh!! Let me tell you what my Grammere told my sisters: "Stay away from any man who thinks he's pretty..YOU'RE suppossed to be the pretty one!!!" Ruby: E-mail me, my profile's in the adult groups area of yahoo and SHOULD be here too; and yes; I'd marry you in a heartbeat and I AM serious...(even hyper-creative artists need to stop drawing sometimes!!)

[Legend]

It seems like i have underestimated mega's fanboy base,you challenge him on his BS you will have to go through all his loyal subjects from the the loyal reg to the new guy who wants to join their pissing contest.MEGA will probably be back next month to start a new rant at the expense of some poor ole tgirl to further his fanboys with people who probably beleive that some bullshit.

[werwt22]

Have you ever noticed that, those who know the least, tend to know it the LOUDEST? Insert coin to continue, MegaBodyNYC

you have one post and you're talking shit? cmon...mega's dropped more knowledge on these boards than 80% of all these posters combined...

Spank is right. It is a long established universal convention on the internet that ALL CAPS==> Yelling a the top of your lungs. It takes getting used to to not read it like that.

From the outside looking in he seems to be complaining about many things at once. Basically he hates the behavior of some girls who are "in the life". Most people would then look for T-girls who are not living that life. I'll bet there are some people who will read this who think that all TS's are in that life... False


I crunched the numbers (it's what I do). Between 1/500 (Conway (http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/TSprevalence.html)) and 1/30,000 (DSM (http://www.genderpsychology.org/transsexual/dsm_iv.html)) live births will result in a transsexual averaging those gives a 1.25% chance a kid will be TS of any kind transitioning at any age. There are 300 Million people in the USA. So ther are about 375000 transsexuals of any kind in the USA. Transwomen outnumber transmen by about 20:1. So there are about 300000 transwomen. Most of them will be unavailable to date, married and much older than anyone here. Say 1/3 - 1/6 of them are of dating age and eligable. That leaves 100,000-50,000 t-girls Meagabody or anyone else could possibly hook up with. Based on what I see on this site and what one can pull up by googleing "transsexual porno" many of the same names come up. Correct me if I am wrong, I am just guessing about this number, about 4000 T-girls have made erotic work their life or are living "the life". Even if that number is doubled that leaves 42,000 t-girls who are eligable and of dating age. Megabody and any one else out there could look for one of those 42,000 women to socailaize with instead of fixating on only a small subset that are living "the life".

(one caveat is that though those ~42000 will have needed to do some dirty deeds at some point. Its the nature of being TS, of being such a smalll minority. The difference as far as I can tell is a matter of how much they have done).

LMAO Statistics ftl. Man I hated that course. But statistics arent really dependable...what's the word....ceteris peribus (i may have spelled that wrong lol) but it means "all other things unchanged" and fact is theres too many factors to truly know how many TS escort, streetwalk, or have before and dont want to admit it, but I do agree that "most" have done some dirty deeds to at least get the ball rolling. No pun intended. IMHO a lot of men are willing to put up with teh escort deal in order for them to do what they have to do, but that's just it.....they don't have to do it. It's just an obsession with perfection. Theres so many beautiful women here that are fine just the way they are but continue to give up there body for what reason?

[Legend]

Mega your logic of things are truly f**ked up, im sure a girl would want a guy who is an supposedly ex-drug dealer and user. For a guy to have so many skeletons in his closet you sure are a judgmental little guy. You are no where near perfect.

STOP IT!!!! STOP IT NOW!!!!

please please, reread ur posts before u click submit....u make no sense, its so difficult to read ur posts..."an supposedly ex drug dealer"??? what the fuck is that??? and he has no skeletons moron, he admits to his prior evils and says he paid his dues...a skeleton is something hidden that isnt being revealed...holy fuck, u make timmy look like stephen hawkins...

Ask the people whom post are more difficult to read mine or steriod boy.

his are difficult like when i eat by my maternal hungarian grandmas house...i love the goulash but i hate the onion pieces so i have to take my time and pick tem out before i can enjoy the meal...

urs are difficult like when i eat by my paternal romanian grandmas house...what she serves is always bland yet indigestable, and the fridge is always fuckin empty...


J, Do you need a freind or you mad because mel gibson doesn't like
you,dont worry pal i don't think you did any of those bad things he said i think your a swell guy.Just look on the bright side you still have your money.

[Quinn]

J, Do you new a freind or you mad because mel gibson doesn't like you,dont worry pal i don't think you did any of those bad things he said i think your a swell guy.Just look on the bright side you still have your money.

Wow, I'm really impressed, Legend. In addition to being an illiterate ass kisser, you are also a racist. Taking shots at J's Jewish heritage shows real character.

Let the back peddling/editing begin.

[chefmike]

More proof that the gene pool needs a lifeguard...

[Legend]

J, Do you new a freind or you mad because mel gibson doesn't like you,dont worry pal i don't think you did any of those bad things he said i think your a swell guy.Just look on the bright side you still have your money.

Wow, I'm really impressed, Legend. In addition to being an illiterate ass kisser, you are also a racist. Taking shots at J's Jewish heritage shows real character.

Let the back peddling/editing begin.

You guys are the biggest hypocritical pieces of garbage i know LOL so its ok to call someone a white redneck from alabama were where you then with your captain-a-whore persona,why didn't you come to my rescue them i know you guys hate me to death literally but you guys have thrown everything at me from racist slurs to wishing me death and your getting a little upset what is clearly meant to be a joke are you really that uptight or you just looking to jump at me at any little thing i say on here BTW i didnt see passion of the christ and the last mel gibson movie i watched was lethal weapon.

[Legend]

More proof that the gene pool needs a lifeguard...

Somehow i knew you would jump along side you pal quinn with some kind of rehashed insult you guys aren't gonna affect me with your patented 3 man bully routine anymore i have just about taken in how each of you guys operate which i will start calling the HA mimic effect.I want all three of you egotistical beings to know i won't make making any farewell threads anytime soon because of you or anyone else on here and chef i know what you and your buddy quinn are thinking pal :) The legend bashing thread or the farewell one?

[chefmike]

Yes, there's no doubt that you always one step ahead of us. We are no match for your incisive intellect and rapier-sharp wit. :roll:

[Legend]

Yes, there's no doubt that you always one step ahead of us. We are no match for your incisive intellect and rapier-sharp wit. :roll:

I never said any of that i just know how you guys think sometimes, you guys have a niche for bumping old threads and when the other one will come to the rescue of their comrad.

[Quinn]

J, Do you new a freind or you mad because mel gibson doesn't like you,dont worry pal i don't think you did any of those bad things he said i think your a swell guy.Just look on the bright side you still have your money.

Wow, I'm really impressed, Legend. In addition to being an illiterate ass kisser, you are also a racist. Taking shots at J's Jewish heritage shows real character.

Let the back peddling/editing begin.

You guys are the biggest hypocritical pieces of garbage i know LOL.
so its ok to call someone a white redneck from alabama were where you then with your captain-a-whore persona,why didn't you come to my rescue them i know you guys hate me to death literally but you guys have thrown everything at me from racist slurs to wishing me death and your getting a little upset what is clearly meant to be a joke are you really that uptight or you just looking to jump at me at any little thing i say on here BTW i didnt see passion of the christ and the last mel gibson movie i watched was lethal weapon.

You seem upset, Adolf. I must have struck a nerve. Then again, the truth usually does.

Also, I want to congratulate you on creating HA’s longest ever run-on sentence. Your continuous demonstrations of illiteracy have gone a long way toward disproving any assertion that you are a complete idiot.

One more thing: nice back peddling.

[Legend]

J, Do you new a freind or you mad because mel gibson doesn't like you,dont worry pal i don't think you did any of those bad things he said i think your a swell guy.Just look on the bright side you still have your money.

Wow, I'm really impressed, Legend. In addition to being an illiterate ass kisser, you are also a racist. Taking shots at J's Jewish heritage shows real character.

Let the back peddling/editing begin.

You guys are the biggest hypocritical pieces of garbage i know LOL.
so its ok to call someone a white redneck from alabama were where you then with your captain-a-whore persona,why didn't you come to my rescue them i know you guys hate me to death literally but you guys have thrown everything at me from racist slurs to wishing me death and your getting a little upset what is clearly meant to be a joke are you really that uptight or you just looking to jump at me at any little thing i say on here BTW i didnt see passion of the christ and the last mel gibson movie i watched was lethal weapon.

You seem upset, Adolf. I must have struck a nerve. Then again, the truth usually does.

Also, I want to congratulate you on creating HA’s longest ever run-on sentence. Your continuous demonstrations of illiteracy have gone a long way toward disproving any assertion that you are a complete idiot.

One more thing: nice back peddling.


Again with the hypocritical bullshit,its ok for your boy j to use racial slurs with me,where were you again with this sudden urge to fight racism?
And its ok for your boy mega to make all kinds of spelling errors and not paragraph his bullshit might i add in CAPS there you go again being a damn hypocrite.

I would rather be an so-called idiot then a complete hypocrite who knows what the hell they are saying but doesn't give a damn as long as he looks cool in front of his boys.You will always be a wannabe and thirth behind j and chef.

[Legend]

Its funny that none of you stood up for me when the white redneck from alabama insult was thrown at me but let me say a little joke about a racist drunken filmmaker and you guys are all over my back,is that how you guys operate if so you guys are watching my every word just to come up with something which is kinda weird nevertheless you hypocritical bastards can kiss my ass.

[Quinn]

J, Do you new a freind or you mad because mel gibson doesn't like you,dont worry pal i don't think you did any of those bad things he said i think your a swell guy.Just look on the bright side you still have your money.

Wow, I'm really impressed, Legend. In addition to being an illiterate ass kisser, you are also a racist. Taking shots at J's Jewish heritage shows real character.

Let the back peddling/editing begin.

You guys are the biggest hypocritical pieces of garbage i know LOL.
so its ok to call someone a white redneck from alabama were where you then with your captain-a-whore persona,why didn't you come to my rescue them i know you guys hate me to death literally but you guys have thrown everything at me from racist slurs to wishing me death and your getting a little upset what is clearly meant to be a joke are you really that uptight or you just looking to jump at me at any little thing i say on here BTW i didnt see passion of the christ and the last mel gibson movie i watched was lethal weapon.

You seem upset, Adolf. I must have struck a nerve. Then again, the truth usually does.

Also, I want to congratulate you on creating HA’s longest ever run-on sentence. Your continuous demonstrations of illiteracy have gone a long way toward disproving any assertion that you are a complete idiot.

One more thing: nice back peddling.


Again with the hypocritical bullshit,its ok for your boy j to use racial slurs with me,where were you again with this sudden urge to fight racism?
And its ok for your boy mega to make all kinds of spelling errors and not paragraph his bullshit might i add in CAPS there you go again being a damn hypocrite.

I would rather be an so-called idiot then a complete hypocrite who knows what the hell they are saying but doesn't give a damn as long as he looks cool in front of his boys.You will always be a wannabe and thirth behind j and chef.

You ability to project/displace your own faults upon to others is amusing. It was you who attacked Mega for his spelling, etc.— while displaying writing that was/is actually much worse. I merely pointed that fact out. So, who’s the hypocrite? That’s right, Adolf, it’s you.

Let’s go over yet another example of your projecting your hypocrisy upon others. You vociferously (look it up, stupid) condemned Mega for a figurative implication of violence, not a literal one. This was quite a feat of hypocrisy given how vehemently you supported a now banned trans(s)sexual who used to make literal threats all of the time. And before you give that crap about you not knowing that she did it, you were an active participant in some of the threads in which those threads were made.

It’s funny. You were proven to be a hypocrite and a sycophant some time ago, yet here you are attempting to level such allegations against others. You have also made an unmistakably racist statement, yet here you are attempting to imply that it’s others who are, in fact, racists. Don’t worry, everyone can see the pattern.

By the way, why are you so obsessed with Mega that you have to work him into practically every thread you type? I’m starting to wonder if you don’t have some homosexual infatuation with him or something.

To review:

1) Am I the one attacking another poster's spelling when my own is actually worse? No. Are you? Yes!

2) Am I the one vociferously condemning another posters figurative implication of violence when I have, in fact, given strong support to a third, now banned, poster who constantly threatened violence? No. Are you? Yes!

Fuck, are you're dumb……

[RubyTS]

J, Do you new a freind or you mad because mel gibson doesn't like you,dont worry pal i don't think you did any of those bad things he said i think your a swell guy.Just look on the bright side you still have your money.

Wow, I'm really impressed, Legend. In addition to being an illiterate ass kisser, you are also a racist. Taking shots at J's Jewish heritage shows real character.

Let the back peddling/editing begin.

You guys are the biggest hypocritical pieces of garbage i know LOL.
so its ok to call someone a white redneck from alabama were where you then with your captain-a-whore persona,why didn't you come to my rescue them i know you guys hate me to death literally but you guys have thrown everything at me from racist slurs to wishing me death and your getting a little upset what is clearly meant to be a joke are you really that uptight or you just looking to jump at me at any little thing i say on here BTW i didnt see passion of the christ and the last mel gibson movie i watched was lethal weapon.

You seem upset, Adolf. I must have struck a nerve. Then again, the truth usually does.

Also, I want to congratulate you on creating HA’s longest ever run-on sentence. Your continuous demonstrations of illiteracy have gone a long way toward disproving any assertion that you are a complete idiot.

One more thing: nice back peddling.


Again with the hypocritical bullshit,its ok for your boy j to use racial slurs with me,where were you again with this sudden urge to fight racism?
And its ok for your boy mega to make all kinds of spelling errors and not paragraph his bullshit might i add in CAPS there you go again being a damn hypocrite.

I would rather be an so-called idiot then a complete hypocrite who knows what the hell they are saying but doesn't give a damn as long as he looks cool in front of his boys.You will always be a wannabe and thirth behind j and chef.

You ability to project/displace your own faults upon to others is amusing. It was you who attacked Mega for his spelling, etc.— while displaying writing that was/is actually much worse. I merely pointed that fact out. So, who’s the hypocrite? That’s right, Adolf, it’s you.

Let’s go over yet another example of your projecting your hypocrisy upon others. You vociferously (look it up, stupid) condemned Mega for a figurative implication of violence, not a literal one. This was quite a feat of hypocrisy given how vehemently you supported a now banned trans(s)sexual who used to make literal threats all of the time. And before you give that crap about you not knowing that she did it, you were an active participant in some of the threads in which those threads were made.

It’s funny. You were proven to be a hypocrite and a sycophant some time ago, yet here you are attempting to level such allegations against others. You have also made an unmistakably racist statement, yet here you are attempting to imply that it’s others who are, in fact, racists. Don’t worry, everyone can see the pattern.

By the way, why are you so obsessed with Mega that you have to work him into practically every thread you type? I’m starting to wonder if you don’t have some homosexual infatuation with him or something.

Holly fuck, your dumb……

omg. ya'll ALL need to stf up and quit it w da childish bickering and back and forth insults. Do ya'll even know each other? Sounds like a lovers quarrel :shock:

[Quinn]

The issues I and a host of other posters have with Legend predate your time on this board and are a bit complicated. As such I shall continue to have at him until it no longer amuses me to do so – regardless of any third party perspective.

-Quinn

[RubyTS]

The issues I and a host of other posters have with Legend predate your time on this board and are a bit complicated. As such I shall continue to have at him until it no longer amuses me to do so – regardless of any third party perspective.

-Quinn

lol so this is what ya'll do for ammusement? omg :roll: Do u guys realize theres naked chix on this board lol

[BeardedOne]

lol so this is what ya'll do for ammusement? omg Do u guys realize theres naked chix on this board lol

Where?!? :shock:

There goes one! :o

:lol:

[RubyTS]

lol so this is what ya'll do for ammusement? omg Do u guys realize theres naked chix on this board lol

Where?!? :shock:

There goes one! :o

:lol:

ur so dumb lol, thas y i adore u :P

[BeardedOne]

ur so dumb lol, thas y i adore u

Awr, shux, Ms. Rubes :oops: ...Uh...Did you just call me 'dumb'?!? :shock:

Hey, I'll have you know that I learned all of my gazintas! :D

[RubyTS]

ur so dumb lol, thas y i adore u

Awr, shux, Ms. Rubes :oops: ...Uh...Did you just call me 'dumb'?!? :shock:

now u trying to start our own lovers quarrel up on here??? Save that 4 the bedroom... thats where i let out ALLLLLLLLL my aggression *wink, wink*

[Quinn]

The issues I and a host of other posters have with Legend predate your time on this board and are a bit complicated. As such I shall continue to have at him until it no longer amuses me to do so – regardless of any third party perspective.

-Quinn

lol so this is what ya'll do for ammusement? omg :roll: Do u guys realize theres naked chix on this board lol

Wait a minute.... There are naked chicks here. How in the hell did that happen?

In all seriousness, I do enjoy the pics of the beautiful women here; however, I do not suffer fools gladly and never will. Still, if you would care to post some more pics of either Melania or yourself, I might be distracted enough to forget about the village idiot for a few.

-Quinn

[BeardedOne]

now u trying to start our own lovers quarrel up on here??? Save that 4 the bedroom... thats where i let out ALLLLLLLLL my aggression *wink, wink*

:shock:

:oops:

:twisted:

[RubyTS]

The issues I and a host of other posters have with Legend predate your time on this board and are a bit complicated. As such I shall continue to have at him until it no longer amuses me to do so – regardless of any third party perspective.

-Quinn

lol so this is what ya'll do for ammusement? omg :roll: Do u guys realize theres naked chix on this board lol

Wait a minute.... There are naked chicks here. How in the hell did that happen?

In all seriousness, I do enjoy the pics of the beautiful women here; however, I do not suffer fools gladly and never will. Still, if you would care to post some more pics of either Melania or yourself, I might be distracted enough to forget about the village idiot for a few.

-Quinn

[BeardedOne]

:shock:

*Shreik!* I'm in love all over again!

Twice! :o

[RubyTS]

:shock:

*Shreik!* I'm in love all over again!

Twice! :o

lol u likeyyyyyy? me and mel GET DOWWWWNNNNNNNN with our bad selves

[BeardedOne]

:shock:

*Shreik!* I'm in love all over again!

Twice! :o

lol u likeyyyyyy? me and mel GET DOWWWWNNNNNNNN with our bad selves

I read somewhere thatr a feller wasn't all that pleased that she was in the room while you and he were partying. Unimaginitive git. :lol:

Gotta get you gurls on the trains sometime, a la Risky Business. :wink:

'Mel' will bring you up to speed on that one, Ms. Rubes. :D

[RubyTS]

:shock:

*Shreik!* I'm in love all over again!

Twice! :o

lol u likeyyyyyy? me and mel GET DOWWWWNNNNNNNN with our bad selves

I read somewhere thatr a feller wasn't all that pleased that she was in the room while you and he were partying. Unimaginitive git. :lol:

Gotta get you gurls on the trains sometime, a la Risky Business. :wink:

'Mel' will bring you up to speed on that one, Ms. Rubes. :D

really where was this? Everytime ive had a client while she wa in the room, i ALWAYS asked if they ywanted privacy. The guys who said yes, she left. A few guys actually really ENJOYED her being in the room and wanted her to join but couldnt affford the two of us

[Kabuki]

The issues I and a host of other posters have with Legend predate your time on this board and are a bit complicated. As such I shall continue to have at him until it no longer amuses me to do so – regardless of any third party perspective.

-Quinn

lol so this is what ya'll do for ammusement? omg :roll: Do u guys realize theres naked chix on this board lol

Wait a minute.... There are naked chicks here. How in the hell did that happen?

In all seriousness, I do enjoy the pics of the beautiful women here; however, I do not suffer fools gladly and never will. Still, if you would care to post some more pics of either Melania or yourself, I might be distracted enough to forget about the village idiot for a few.

-Quinn

Impressive Miss.Ruby. I think you have some new fans now :wink: We should've seen this photo in the thread about Mel :lol:

[BeardedOne]

A few guys actually really ENJOYED her being in the room and wanted her to join but couldnt affford the two of us

Hmm, maybe that's what he was complaining about. :lol: I'll try and find it and PM you.