ANNOUNCEMENT : All Escort Channels have been removed.

[GroobySteven]

Given the recent rulings in the US (which are expected to become law) called SESTA then we, like most other companies that work within the USA have removed any forums that involve talk or discussion on escorting or sex work.

You can read more about SESTA here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Enabling_Sex_Traffickers_Act

And everyone should read:

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/3kjnwn/fosta-sesta-vote-passed-senate


We are not an escort site or a sex workers site. We take no money for advertising escorting but as a minor part of this forum, we provide a platform for like minded people, to talk about something which is completely legal and to share information which ultimately provides more safety and understanding.

We're taking the step like many other companies and websites have, to remove anything pertaining to escorting, sex work or the promotion of it.

You can thank yourself - or your friends and politicians who voted in the current administration.

[Highlander1963]

What’s the world coming to!

[polarfox67]

Damn!! Sad day :(

[Vector1818]

Wow! We’re not even allowed to talk about escorts!!! Wtf!!!

[Highlander1963]

Aye, so we’ve to pretend they don’t exist. Stop the world I want to get off

[runderrut37]

Even craigslist personals is gone

[mickey]

Even craigslist personals is gone
So now what? They push everyone back out onto the street? Better get on that line for prep meds now!!!

[SheLoverKVB]

Damn ! What next ?? Are they going to ban sex now ???

I’ll create the India Escorts review thread on another platform. PM me for details.

Cheers
KV

[runderrut37]

So now what? They push everyone back out onto the street? Better get on that line for prep meds now!!!

It was great for freebies. Alas, no more. Hopefully this storm will be weathered and a new service comes from this

[Dashing]

Can't believe it! :shock: Such a shame! :(

[DGinmass]

Would it be possible to have a paid membership, and only those who do so be allowed access to review forums ?

This way it would not be public.

Just a thought...

[Highlander1963]

Would it be possible to have a paid membership, and only those who do so be allowed access to review forums ?

This way it would not be public.

Just a thought...


Great idea if it’s allowed. I would subscribe

[dns4809]

cracks me up so now push it all under ground ... wasn't LT the great NYG linebacker caught with an under age girl thru CL i say let technology work for you not against,
but that's to easy with the GOP just hide it all and it will go away.

[mickey]

Given the recent rulings in the US (which are expected to become law) called SESTA then we, like most other companies that work within the USA have removed any forums that involve talk or discussion on escorting or sex work.

You can read more about SESTA here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Enabling_Sex_Traffickers_Act

And everyone should read:

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/3kjnwn/fosta-sesta-vote-passed-senate


We are not an escort site or a sex workers site. We take no money for advertising escorting but as a minor part of this forum, we provide a platform for like minded people, to talk about something which is completely legal and to share information which ultimately provides more safety and understanding.

We're taking the step like many other companies and websites have, to remove anything pertaining to escorting, sex work or the promotion of it.

You can thank yourself - or your friends and politicians who voted in the current administration.

So porn is ok? Advertising (promoting)DVD's, Tapes, online movie sites featuring sex acts/workers/escorts will all be banded? What happens with Tumblr and similar sites?

"another fine mess, Oliver"

Book me on the next plane to Bangcock. I'll see my friends from #asiancd.

[GroobySteven]

Would it be possible to have a paid membership, and only those who do so be allowed access to review forums ?

This way it would not be public.

Just a thought...


Nice thought - but that would be even a bigger problem as we'd be profiting from 'exploitation'.

[GroobySteven]

So porn is ok? Advertising (promoting)DVD's, Tapes, online movie sites featuring sex acts/workers/escorts will all be banded? What happens with Tumblr and similar sites?

"another fine mess, Oliver"

Book me on the next plane to Bangcock. I'll see my friends from #asiancd.


Porn is ok as we already have to go through a load of paperwork to get productions made BUT ... I don't know, watch this space.

If Tumblr, Twitter etc are promotion escorts then I can imagine a lot of bans/account removals.

[hugeadmirer]

Wow, all that content and wealth of information whiped out just like that. As the legislation is US only is there anything that can be done for us little folks in the free world?

[flabbybody]

Wow! We’re not even allowed to talk about escorts!!! Wtf!!!
What will I do all day?

[GroobySteven]

Wow, all that content and wealth of information whiped out just like that. As the legislation is US only is there anything that can be done for us little folks in the free world?

Grooby is a US corp.

[hugeadmirer]

Grooby is a US corp.

Understood. I assume by setting up Subsidiaries in other parts of the world this could be navigated?

If so, it becomes a commercial decision on whether the agg is worth it. Which I suspect, giving a bunch of whore mongerers (myself included) a forum to share information, is not worth it.

[Joey Hots]

Oh man. Flabby... the rest of you guys. You have saved me from a lot of potentially horrible scenes. Thanks for all that over the years.

Where are we gonna go from here? :)

[Joey Hots]

ALSO, flabbybody, let me know if I can help out with setting up another hub for us like possibly on reddit or something? I'd be glad to put in some work if i can help out...

[smalltownguy]

give us some chance to log into hungangels...if site content is problem then alter the content ...
we are part of hungangles and we deserve better...

[Luvtgirls1]

Where does leave the likes of Birchplace and backpages that blatantly flaunt it.. I mean there is even an escort section on TVchix.. What else is Birchplace used for?

[GroobySteven]

Understood. I assume by setting up Subsidiaries in other parts of the world this could be navigated?

If so, it becomes a commercial decision on whether the agg is worth it. Which I suspect, giving a bunch of whore mongerers (myself included) a forum to share information, is not worth it.

We make no money from it. It's not our business.

[GroobySteven]

ALSO, flabbybody, let me know if I can help out with setting up another hub for us like possibly on reddit or something? I'd be glad to put in some work if i can help out...


Reddit has already pulled most of it's escort subreddits.

[GroobySteven]

give us some chance to log into hungangels...if site content is problem then alter the content ...
we are part of hungangles and we deserve better...


What do you deserve?
You need to go and read what's been posted above before making silly comments.

[Sabrina TS]

Where does leave the likes of Birchplace and backpages that blatantly flaunt it.. I mean there is even an escort section on TVchix.. What else is Birchplace used for?

They are UK sites and so are unaffected by the draconian measures in the US. Likewise it's illegal to be am escort in the US but its legal in the UK.

I'm gonna look into starting my own forum for escorting.

[Candy John]

A lot of girls with bad reputations in uk will be jumping for joy. Essentially now they can do what they want, bad service, bait and switch, steal and not be held accountable for their actions. VERY SCARY. Be careful out there!!!

[vermontlaw2000]

Backpage hasn’t removed anything yet...weird.

[lifeisfiction]

I wonder how dating sites will fare through all of this, because you do have the occasional person looking for clients through them? I guess online dating will go away too.

[flabbybody]

Backpage hasn’t removed anything yet...weird.
just a matter of time. they won’t risk their mainstream business by keeping up a personals section that is a potential legal liability

[GroobySteven]

I wonder how dating sites will fare through all of this, because you do have the occasional person looking for clients through them? I guess online dating will go away too.

Dating sites will just need to monitor the advertising and remove ones that are considered sex work.

[Murmdrum]

even tho I dont partake a whole lot in this hobby the escort review thread was my favorites......oh well...total bummer

[AkiraDani]

What a lost for us. The site and the forum has been a great contribution for my growth and success in the industry. Though it has its negatives, the positives were much more vibrant.

Sad

[lifeisfiction]

Dating sites will just need to monitor the advertising and remove ones that are considered sex work.

Read a little more of the bill, will read it when I have more time, but the standard it sets from the actions of intent is purposeful and knowing, which is a very high standard that means the they created a website with the intention of promoting or facilitating prostitution. Still, there is a free speech argument in there possiblly. Doesn't matter escorting in the US is about to get super quiet.

[miketaylor912]

Lucky for all the girls scamming and ripping off clients ! we now can't even warn others dam..

[megajimbo69]

I'll miss you all. Maybe we'll chat when the more persistent among us discover a way around this. It's getting harder all the time to be free, and to stay free.

[rifraf]

Wonder when TER will close for business..

[mickey]

Dating sites will just need to monitor the advertising and remove ones that are considered sex work.

Wow, a lot of legal ramifications here. MILF who is widowed and horny puts an ad on Dating website.com. Very explicit ad. Website removes ad as they see as an Escort trolling for business. She sues. Who wins?

[LoganSvensson]

I almost finished my full color shemale comic! I hope people are still come to the this website because I want my peers to see it.
Thanks for all the great reviews. Thank you Flabby etc 1065199

[LoganSvensson]

The NY escort reviews was such a great resource and saved so many people from bad, very bad experiences and made possible amazing, life-altering sex. Thanks again for the great memories. I wish I contributed more

[LoganSvensson]

Wonder when TER will close for business..


I just checked. It’s offline

[rifraf]

I just checked. It’s offline

Sheez,,, that's what I figured.. Damn..

[runderrut37]

If there is an alterative, kindly PM me. I’ve provided numerous reviews of girls and would like to continue for our community.

[rifraf]

If there is an alterative, kindly PM me. I’ve provided numerous reviews of girls and would like to continue for our community.

I'm assuming there will be ones popping up soon from other countries.. But I wonder if the Gestapo will block these sites here in the US??

[919]

Given the recent rulings in the US (which are expected to become law) called SESTA then we, like most other companies that work within the USA have removed any forums that involve talk or discussion on escorting or sex work.

You can read more about SESTA here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Enabling_Sex_Traffickers_Act

And everyone should read:

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/3kjnwn/fosta-sesta-vote-passed-senate


We are not an escort site or a sex workers site. We take no money for advertising escorting but as a minor part of this forum, we provide a platform for like minded people, to talk about something which is completely legal and to share information which ultimately provides more safety and understanding.

We're taking the step like many other companies and websites have, to remove anything pertaining to escorting, sex work or the promotion of it.

You can thank yourself - or your friends and politicians who voted in the current administration.

That’s way I cannot open escort review ?

[alcoolsrimbood]

backpage still up for now.......

[TheBlueEyedKid]

Wow free speech is alive and free in the land of liberty, eh? What bullshit.

I found the escort reviews very, very valuable and informative. Sad day for freedom of speech.

[bigrobert]

Wonder about Adultwork? Its not used a lot by tgirls in the uk (well not in scotland anyway) but that and BP seem to be the only two left where you can find girls let alone somewhere to check them out. Anyone know any UK based review sites?

[john1990]

Wonder about Adultwork? Its not used a lot by tgirls in the uk (well not in scotland anyway) but that and BP seem to be the only two left where you can find girls let alone somewhere to check them out. Anyone know any UK based review sites?

UKPunting is the biggest and best site for UK reviews. The user base can be a bit intense but it works in that it weeds out the rubbish escorts and users. They do allow trans reviews but there's not loads of them and there is usually a snarky comment or ten about seeing trans people. It's a solid site that may well be the best resource for us Brits going forward.

[AzureneoZ]

There's always Reddit guys and 4chan

[peejaye]

Given the recent rulings in the US (which are expected to become law) called SESTA then we, like most other companies that work within the USA have removed any forums that involve talk or discussion on escorting or sex work.

You can read more about SESTA here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Enabling_Sex_Traffickers_Act

And everyone should read:

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/3kjnwn/fosta-sesta-vote-passed-senate


We are not an escort site or a sex workers site. We take no money for advertising escorting but as a minor part of this forum, we provide a platform for like minded people, to talk about something which is completely legal and to share information which ultimately provides more safety and understanding.

We're taking the step like many other companies and websites have, to remove anything pertaining to escorting, sex work or the promotion of it.

You can thank yourself - or your friends and politicians who voted in the current administration.

Whoever as thumbed down this post wants fucking.....& banning.

[peejaye]

Aye, so we’ve to pretend they don’t exist. Stop the world I want to get off

That's it. Some do-gooding Senior Civil servant in Government will actually sleep a lot better thinking they've done the world a huge favour!

[last_stop]

I'm assuming there will be ones popping up soon from other countries.. But I wonder if the Gestapo will block these sites here in the US??

With net neutrality rules subject to take effect soon, I expect it will be easier for ISPs to ban traffic like that in the US. It's gonna be a real mess and a full on assault on personal freedoms. I've already heard about Instagram and Twitter pages being deleted due to mere suspicion of solicitation.

This country and its government is so fucking ass backwards. Both dems and repugnants.

[Laphroaig]

The end of an era...

[Laphroaig]

give us some chance to log into hungangels...if site content is problem then alter the content ...
we are part of hungangles and we deserve better...

How much did you pay for what you "deserve"?

[BobbyZamunda]

Big brother needs to back off

[john1990]

The end of an era...

It is indeed.

I think it's important that we should thank Steven for providing this forum for so long. He hasn't made any money out of it himself. But I'm sure he's saved us lot a tonne of time and money by giving us the resource to warn and preferably recommend the myriad of providers out there.

So thanks for all the years the forum has been running, it's been very useful.

[shaffire]

Sad day I've lost all my amazing reviews😭 It was good while it lasted thank you hungangels for the past few years you have been amazing 💋💋💋💋

[JDrocs]

Shit, now what? Talk about a gamechanger, I'm assuming all of the ads will disappear. Back to the 80's street trolling. And what about the friendship and personalities that we all grew fond of. Shit

[TB147]

I would strongly recommend posting reviews on UKPunting. It is by far the best forum for UK escort reviews.

If there is enough activity, they might even create a dedicated TS section which would hopefully keep the trolls at bay.

[Laphroaig]

It is indeed.

I think it's important that we should thank Steven for providing this forum for so long. He hasn't made any money out of it himself. But I'm sure he's saved us lot a tonne of time and money by giving us the resource to warn and preferably recommend the myriad of providers out there.

So thanks for all the years the forum has been running, it's been very useful.
Indeed, well said...:cheers:

[Goodslave]

Very strange, what will happen with other review sites like UKPunting which has thousands of reviews online, not a TS site though.

[john1990]

Very strange, what will happen with other review sites like UKPunting which has thousands of reviews online, not a TS site though.

I think the reason for these sites closing is due to a US law changing. Because UKPunting is British I would assume it wouldn't be affected.

[Nikka]

no more personals section?

[jamesxxx]

Such a wealth of information has dissapeared in the Escort Reviews section.... what a shame.

The worst thing is this bill was passed with near unanimous bipartisan support in the Senate. It's a sad day for liberty and freedom of speech in the US as no one seems to want to stand up for it. I feel like the world is becoming more tyrannical every year. In Europe, you can't criticize Islam or immigration policy anymore without risking prosecution. Government wants to push its morality in order to subjugate us. At this rate, Putin's Russia will soon look like a bastion of freedom.

[muffdvr]

What will I do all day?

This really sucks (pun intended) the big one. I'm sorry to say but there no longer any reason for me to come here. I enjoyed it while it lasted. I see TER is still up and BP still has personals section. How long before they get taken down? How about BestGFE and UtopiaGuide are they going down too. Well UtopiaGuide deserves it LOL SlinkyBender is a such a dickbag.

Also, just for the sake of argument, if I wanted to find a NPFP situation apart from the hobby, how could I even find someone to hookup with if every personals page on the web is being scrubbed.

between this and trump signing that dogshit Omnibus bill today this has been a real bad day for America.

[AkiraDani]

It is indeed.

I think it's important that we should thank Steven for providing this forum for so long. He hasn't made any money out of it himself. But I'm sure he's saved us lot a tonne of time and money by giving us the resource to warn and preferably recommend the myriad of providers out there.

So thanks for all the years the forum has been running, it's been very useful.

Agreed!!! Specially in India's forum

[billyp674]

This is good case for legit service to exist on Toor, I don't think review site violates any laws anyways

[runderrut37]

This is good case for legit service to exist on Toor, I don't think review site violates any laws anyways

Was thinking to myself earlier about something like this being on Toor lol

[KatherineRusTS]

Its a pity that these US parasites do not engage in more global issues and sticking their nose in where they do not ask (((( Thats so bad (((
Im very grateful to all those people who participated in the debates and leaved lots of good advices and reviews - this website was very necessary for all of us - for protection purpose. Now again its necessary to start everything from 0 - to look for a new resource and cooperate with the agency ( lost of money )
Its a big blow and a big lost for all of us ((

Sad

Thank you Steve , thank you guys ...
Xxx

[badboyinthebx]

Silver lining? Street walkers will make a comeback bigtime!

[bowled shine]

What’s the world coming to!

A dictatorship?

[smooth007]

This is sad day, we cant even talk about our experiences and advise one another. This was a good community and they have sabotaged it!

[last_stop]

Angelina, that's prolly not a good idea. lol

[Sabrina TS]

Fear not, remember when online poker was banned in America? After a while it returned. Just hang in there. UK and Europe will be unaffected but those in the USA will have to be a bit more discreet and not mention escorting or money. 'I had a lovely date with Amanda, we really hit it off and we had sex on our first date. Here is her ad looking for a date, see if she fancies meeting up' etc.

[Torris]

Banning escort ads is one thing. But how can they ban reviews? No freedom of speech issues?

How is comments on the merits of an escort any different than uploading a video review to Rotten Tomatoes?

[Torris]

Who is to blame for this? The anti sex Republicans or Nanny state Democrats?

[runderrut37]

Fear not, remember when online poker was banned in America? After a while it returned. Just hang in there. UK and Europe will be unaffected but those in the USA will have to be a bit more discreet and not mention escorting or money. 'I had a lovely date with Amanda, we really hit it off and we had sex on our first date. Here is her ad looking for a date, see if she fancies meeting up' etc.

Online poker returned but only after several years of litigation and only to a few states. Its still not regulated federally. Its not even close to being the same as it once was. Just using this to illustrate a potential long, arduous battle that we all have to go through. I hope I’m wrong.

[bowled shine]

Who is to blame for this? The anti sex Republicans or Nanny state Democrats?

I want to live in a fanny state :)

[skirtrustler]

Ref UK Punting discussion above:

Compare with cybercrime and the Lauri Love saga (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauri_Love he hacked a US computer from the UK US and they tried to extradite him to US). Thus UK Punting could be entrapped to offer services of a sex trafficked person in US, and may lead to US civil action.

Need to read the exact wording, since by enabling civil action it may not lead to a criminal / extraditable offence against a non US website operator. Although such operator would not be able to set foot in the US.

This really is one of those idiotic cases where the lawyers will sit down on Monday and go W.T.F. does this mean? I think a main route to sanity will be when someone tries to sue Google, Facebook, Twitter etc for negligently putting up a link or web page for something involving a trafficked sex worker.

This may take years to blow over. Sadly as many others have pointed out there will be no place for free speech to call out scammers, fraudsters, robbers; and possibly even to advertise.

[dirkmcgee]

You can thank yourself - or your friends and politicians who voted in the current administration.

It passed by a fucking 97-2 vote. For you to try to make this a partisan thing about the current administration when there's no fucking way Trump could get 97 senators to vote on anything in unison is mind boggling.

[ligernako]

This sucks. Well if anyone knows any alternatives or a new site gets set set up would appreciate a pm, cheers guys

[skirtrustler]

Just been reading up on history of US Prostitution law. Fascinating story. Used to be almost totally legal before 1900,then regulation started in 1910 with inter state sex trafficking. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act

Interesting read for us in UK where prostitution as-such is legal (except brothels, streetwalking/soliciting and a couple of other nuances).

[dreamon]

Who is to blame for this? The anti sex Republicans or Nanny state Democrats?

Introduced by Republican Rob Portman (R-OH), co-sponsored by 43 fellow Republicans (including former Presidential candidates John McCain, Ted Cruz, and Marco Rubio) and 27 Democrats (including potential Presidential candidates Amy Klobuchar, Sherrod Brown, Tammy Duckworth, Kamala Harris, and Chris Murphy). It passed the House 388-25 and the Senate 97-2 (Ron Wyden (D-OR) and Rand Paul (R-KY) were the only to oppose). So both.

I'm glad that action against sex trafficking is being taken, but this particular bill seems misguided.

I'm particularly sad about Craiglist. That has been a great resource for both hookups and dating over the years.

[stan.smith]

This is truly a damn shame and an end of an era! id like to thank everyone for their reviews and experiences especially those in the NJ thread...flabby,smithken,cdale,longislandoc,danima l, new guy antoncarrera (whos reviews i was really looking forward to) and everyone else who has made our personal experiences a lot safer, better and more informative. lets all hope this will be temporary.. for all NJ enthusiasts im willing to share experiences via private messaging just hmu!
be safe out there!

[KatherineRusTS]

Maybe its possible to made a new website or a separate one registered somewhere in EU ? where this US wankers will not be able to get their hands on !!!The review section can be reopened but through the new link: I have some nice domains what I can offer for free + Im ready to make some donation to help in that case. I think everyone have to think about it and to find a real way how to support the community - cos we are a huge community round the world ((( Its lots of websites where u can find a review section but nothing the same as hungangels. I believe on this forum we can find a Lawyer and many other guys who can give a real advice and to help solve the issue . Its not a good deal if everyone will run away at this hour.
Cmon guys - don't be silent - I think its a good time to pay back to Steve and to close ranks . Why we have to shut up because of someone from US.
We have to grow up and think about our security .

All real deals and advice its better to txt in private to Steve. I believe its possible to find a way how to legally get round the low.

Xxx

[crxlsv]

wow it really is a shame.. I want to thank everyone who contributed to the NJ section. Hopefully an alternative msg board will arise somewhere/somehow.
I have a few in mind that I think will be good, however I'm not comfortable with promoting another forum through this one.
I love this site and just because that section is gone doesn't mean Ill stop visiting here :)

[MrFanti]

Be interesting to see how the next "Women's Marches" handle this...

[decastro]

bye bye miss american pie

[dreamon]

Be interesting to see how the next "Women's Marches" handle this...

Don't hold your breath. Linda Sarsour, who organizes the marches, routinely covers up sex abuse when it benefits her. Since there is no benefit to her to protest this, she won't push it.

[decastro]

Shit, now what? Talk about a gamechanger, I'm assuming all of the ads will disappear. Back to the 80's street trolling. And what about the friendship and personalities that we all grew fond of. Shit

we're just gonna have to all meet up in real life, every now n then, trade war stories. undisclosed location lol

[BtGy]

...drooove my chevy to the levee but the levee was dry... and them good ol' boys were drinkin' whiskey in rye, singin' “This'll be the day that I die"

[decastro]

i wanna give a big shout out to everybody who made the NY THREAD SO DOPE.
you guys know who u are, i owe yall so many good times, i fully intend to buy multiple rounds, i would say names but Big Brother watchin i guess.
thank you

[Jia_westladyboy]

Saturday morning 5am i got a call from a guy with a lovely voice,, .....
.. ..making the story short, he was feeling distressed as his last 2 visits
had been disappointing for him and so he wanted some guarantees from me
that i was not gonna be the same experience, so to reassure him, i sent him the usual HA link where my review are (wer)
.. got a call after 5 min, saying wrong link, no access .. chesked that myself, and found laphroaig's post
kindly redirecting to the right link explaining what happened_

That thread sure, will be greatly missed by loads of chap and girls
I havenot used this website very much, but it was useful and reassuring for most people, by just typing in Google/ HungAngel/+ (the girl's name)
and most of the time there was a direct link to the Thread abot that particular girl_
It was nice and it is sad when things change_
Possibly without that thread, there will be more scammers who'll get away with it, easierly_

Obviously there is always a solution for everything and Uk is not US, at least
for some more time, as we need to consider that this world is now a small global village where facts, events, news, spread out faster than they use to,
and new laws are often created/
Craig list, was at risk already few years ago, and sadly is gone... and in Uk at least for the moment there is no evident major warning
that the same is going to happen, but considering what is happening in some EU countries,
one could suspect that there are signs which could lead us think of some early warning, when it comes to sex-work and also in terms of advertising websites_

Luckily in the Uk, body-sale is kinda legal, as it happens in the act of exchanging sexual activities for money, although there is a more refined way to say it,
which is paying a sex worker for the Time spent with her, and whatever happens is the mutual consent of two grown up persons_
The law seems to be fine with escorts working on their own and as someone rightly said, brothels and street walking/ pimping are of course condemned_
It could be a bit ambiguoius in some cases, and it exists in a kind of uncertain area, a bit clouded area_
just like the british weather,,

Technically a duo could also be illegal, and in 3 months ago meeting with some sex workers organizations the speaker had also specified
that for example doing a 3sum with a married couple it is not illegal, whether a 3sum with a non married couple could be technically illegal_
Some sex workers women who had expressed their doubts about having an assistant who picks up clients, due to the weird flat location
were told that if the assistant was an old lady all should be fine and if she was a young lady it could be considered the same as a small brothel 1+1_
Now i know that's weird but what can we do if those are the rules_

Getting back to the anxious chap, not sure if he's gonna turn up or not, will see how it goes_
The 5am unexpected surprise, made me unconsciously utter
those quintessential words, normally used for this type of events:
Sh** is gone !,,, "Where is my fucking thread now" ?_?

Best Regards
J_V

[kaientai]

I understand but so sad about this

[skirtrustler]

Maybe its possible to made a new website or a separate one registered somewhere in EU ? where this US wankers will not be able to get their hands on !!!

You have to remember that whoever owns the site will amass a VAST amount of sensitive personal information [SPI] on the site users, some of whom will be US ‘prostitutes’, and my vote would be the EU (with The General Data protection Regulations [GDPR] coming into force in May this year) rather than - no slight at all on Katherine - certain other countries beyond the reach of US legislators who don’t give a damn what anyone else thinks or where the data could be used as ‘kompromat’ later against (upstanding) politicians.

Even in the UK it is finally getting through the skulls of our politicians that this is a very messy area. In our case that an age verification database for adult sites = a porn consumers / kink database = ‘kompromat’; and they will be in it; and it WILL leak.

[fab]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3oFzm9eAdwd6ReDA1G/giphy.gif


What next, bring back prohibition.

Let's abolish escorting sites, but keep automatic weapons !

Well done to the voters, who voted him in.

[mtbazz]

this sucks and is such a retarded move. what two consenting adults do whether payment is involved or not should not be the business of .gov

is there any alternative?

[Sabrina TS]

I understand the webmaster's cautious approach but it seems that everyone is chucking the baby out with the bath water. SESTA and FOSTA are all about taking action against those websites that know sex trafficking is taking pace. The Internet Association also insisted the act was amended so as to ONLY target those websites that knowingly participate (see the final quote). From the wiki link:

"It seeks to clarify the country's sex trafficking law to make it illegal to knowingly assist, facilitate, or support sex trafficking".

"The Stop Advertising Victims of Exploitation (SAVE) Act made it illegal to advertise sex trafficking, knowingly benefit financially from participation in a venture that advertises sex trafficking, and to engage in activities related to sex trafficking besides advertising, knowingly or in reckless disregard of the fact that sex trafficking is involved."



"He attributed this largely to Backpage—an online classifieds service that had been accused of knowingly accepting ads which facilitated child sex trafficking, and filtered specific keywords in order to obfuscate it.

"The Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act amends Section 1591 of Title 18 of the United States Code to add a definition of "participation in a venture", as knowingly assisting, facilitating, or supporting sex trafficking."

"Kenneth Glueck stated that it would "establish some measure of accountability for those that cynically sell advertising but are unprepared to help curtail sex trafficking".


And most importantly:
"The Internet Association stated that it would "support targeted amendments to the Communications Decency Act that would allow victims of sex trafficking crimes to seek justice against perpetrators", but initially criticized SESTA for using terms which were undefined or broadly-interpreted in case law, and argued that it would "introduce new legal risk not just for internet services that do not knowingly and intentionally facilitate illegal conduct, but also create risk for an incredibly broad number of innocent businesses by expanding the notion of contributory liability."[17] The Internet Association pledged support for SESTA on November 3, 2017 after an agreement to clarify portions of it; in particular, the definition of "participation in a venture" was amended to replace "knowing conduct by an individual or entity, by any means, that assists, supports, or facilitates a violation" with just "knowingly assisting, supporting, or facilitating a violation"."

[Sabrina TS]

Maybe its possible to made a new website or a separate one registered somewhere in EU ? where this US wankers will not be able to get their hands on !!!
A member quicky built a new forum for the UK/EU and posted it a couple of pages back. Personally I think things will soon blow over and life will return to normal.

[peejaye]

I think you could be right but how long we'll suffer from this is unknown?

[kaientai]

Just wanted to thank everyone for all the reviews i did what i could in the Amsterdam thread

[Torris]

What next, bring back prohibition.

Let's abolish escorting sites, but keep automatic weapons !

Well done to the voters, who voted him in.

You can’t blame Trump for this. Blame the virtue signallers in Congress. They wrote and passed the legislation. It didn’t emanate from the White House.

Liberal do gooders like Kamala Harris should be where you aim your blame.

[GroobySteven]

You can’t blame Trump for this. Blame the virtue signallers in Congress. They wrote and passed the legislation. It didn’t emanate from the White House.

Liberal do gooders like Kamala Harris should be where you aim your blame.

Wrong.

It came from having a few people in power who knew they could push this through and everyone else would have to fall into line, otherwise it would look like they were blocking an anti-sex trafficking bill.
You can blame Trump.

[Vector1818]

If anyone creates another page please PM me. Also, there are many sub topics still left on this page. Why can we still post pictures of trannies but not allowed to talk about them? This is literally dumb!

[Laphroaig]

If anyone creates another page please PM me. Also, there are many sub topics still left on this page. Why can we still post pictures of trannies but not allowed to talk about them? This is literally dumb!

Did you actually read or understand anything in the opening post?...:shrug

[rockboy]

I was already in the process of building an encrypted ultra-privacy platform run on the blockchain, these actions by the authorities only further highlights the need for such a thing. It will be decentralized across the internet meaning there are no central servers involved and therefore it's control and information stored does not reside in any jurisdiction anywhere on the planet. The only way to shut it down would be to literally turn off the internet.. well good luck with that.

We can simply build a decentralized application on top of it for advertising TS escort services and building a reviews forum etc. Users information will be kept 100% anonymous and private (except if you disclose on the forum of course.. like escorts advertising their name & phone number). It can be accessed from anywhere in world by anyone.. it can't be blocked!!

The underlying blockchain platform can even have its own fully anonymous cryptocurrency for payment of escort services, or for porn, or for whatever people want to use it for - maybe even for tipping other users for good reviews. It will be secure and 100% untraceable.

These bastards won't stop us. Stay tuned folks!

[dirkmcgee]

Wrong.

It came from having a few people in power who knew they could push this through and everyone else would have to fall into line, otherwise it would look like they were blocking an anti-sex trafficking bill.
You can blame Trump.


Seriously, is your Trump-derangement this fucking pronounced? Every senator not named Paul and Wyden (thanks yet again for understanding what liberty is, Rand, and shout out to Ronnie with the lisp), voted on this bill. BOTH parties are to blame for this. I could only imagine the total shitstorm given the lack of bi-partisan legislation that comes out of the dumpster fire that is Congress, if Trump vetoed. He's not dying on this hill dude, sorry.

[Laphroaig]

Whoever as thumbed down this post wants fucking.....& banning.

I don't get the point of voting either way. The OP is a statement of fact and Steven has been forced into this to protect his business. There's no like or dislike about it, sadly it had to be done.

As others have said, through HA, Steven has provided an invaluable (free of charge) resource which has aided many, including myself over the years. All good things must come to an end though and my only hope is that the politicians will see sense in a year or 2 and it can all be restored. Until that day, thanks Steven, rodinuk, flabbybody, the late Prospero and all those who contributed to that section to make it what it was....:cheers:

[peejaye]

That was my point exactly, the fact it WAS beyond his control & as Steven says, thank the administration certain people voted for!
Personally, I marked it "thumbs up" because I agree exactly what Steven as had to do, I presume the numpty marking it down either didn't agree with what he said or didn't understand? :cheers: to you all also.

[glossydolly123]

We make no money from it. It's not our business.

In that case, whose business is it? And where are they located?

[Danimal11]

This is truly a damn shame and an end of an era! id like to thank everyone for their reviews and experiences especially those in the NJ thread...flabby,smithken,cdale,longislandoc,danima l, new guy antoncarrera (whos reviews i was really looking forward to) and everyone else who has made our personal experiences a lot safer, better and more informative. lets all hope this will be temporary.. for all NJ enthusiasts im willing to share experiences via private messaging just hmu!
be safe out there!

My sentiments are with all of you. A group PM for discussions is good. I’ve had the itch recently and now have to dig thru memory of what ads I come across - being sticking to the regulars I know and trust. This will probably boost the popular girl’s business as they are known. Be careful out there and I am up for a group PM for NYC and NJ if any start.

Maybe I’ll go to Evolve tonight or whatever Saturday party is out there. The girls that know and understand how this works are probably equally upset and disappointed.

[KelliBlueEyes]

the Wayback Machine does not seem to have indexed the individual posts.

[Torquez]

Please PM with any non-US forums that I can read.

[Torris]

Wrong.

It came from having a few people in power who knew they could push this through and everyone else would have to fall into line, otherwise it would look like they were blocking an anti-sex trafficking bill.
You can blame Trump.

Sounds like a conspiracy theory.

[mtbazz]

My sentiments are with all of you. A group PM for discussions is good. I’ve had the itch recently and now have to dig thru memory of what ads I come across - being sticking to the regulars I know and trust. This will probably boost the popular girl’s business as they are known. Be careful out there and I am up for a group PM for NYC and NJ if any start.

Maybe I’ll go to Evolve tonight or whatever Saturday party is out there. The girls that know and understand how this works are probably equally upset and disappointed.


please add me to any group chat..im in the tri-state area as well.

[Laissez Faire]

As an occasional lurker, just came onto the forum to take a gander of who might be in town, a sad loss. Guess it's back to going at it blind -_-.

[baldwone]

I think this is Big Brother gone too far

[nysprod]

Wrong.

It came from having a few people in power who knew they could push this through and everyone else would have to fall into line, otherwise it would look like they were blocking an anti-sex trafficking bill.
You can blame Trump.

I detest trump but you can't pin this on him. Look at it this way:

Trump didn't campaign on having a bill like this and he's never tweeted about it, that I know of.

Actually, I think he missed a big opportunity to score brownie points by not leading the charge.

And Backpage is still up.

[Laphroaig]

In that case, whose business is it? And where are they located?

Think you've completely missed the point being made...

Grooby's business is making and selling porn. This site helps promote that, but made no money from the reviews board.

[peejaye]

I detest trump but you can't pin this on him. Look at it this way:

Trump didn't campaign on having a bill like this and he's never tweeted about it, that I know of.

Actually, I think he missed a big opportunity to score brownie points by not leading the charge.

And Backpage is still up.

You have the same problem there as we do here.... do-gooders.
No one knows who they are, they appear to have a very LOUD voice within the administration they actually work for. More than likely in Trumps case, though I know that's hard to believe!
In the UK they are known as Senior Civil Servants, working within Government. They remain nameless to the most of us. A fucking good idea probably as some of them would of been took out by frustrated members of the public for a lot of their antics!

[CDale60]

Given the recent rulings in the US (which are expected to become law) called SESTA then we, like most other companies that work within the USA have removed any forums that involve talk or discussion on escorting or sex work.

You can read more about SESTA here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Enabling_Sex_Traffickers_Act

And everyone should read:

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/3kjnwn/fosta-sesta-vote-passed-senate


We are not an escort site or a sex workers site. We take no money for advertising escorting but as a minor part of this forum, we provide a platform for like minded people, to talk about something which is completely legal and to share information which ultimately provides more safety and understanding.

We're taking the step like many other companies and websites have, to remove anything pertaining to escorting, sex work or the promotion of it.

You can thank yourself - or your friends and politicians who voted in the current administration.

Since those forums have been taken down, is there a reason to save or archive them? My concern is, first a law is passed to take out the speech, then the enforcement asks website hosts to surrender the speech. If you haven't received any notice from LE to preserve those old forums in a manner that can be recalled for evidence or investigation, it may be a good idea to wipe them clean like Hillary's server.

[muffdvr]

Since those forums have been taken down, is there a reason to save or archive them? My concern is, first a law is passed to take out the speech, then the enforcement asks website hosts to surrender the speech. If you haven't received any notice from LE to preserve those old forums in a manner that can be recalled for evidence or investigation, it may be a good idea to wipe them clean like Hillary's server.

Four out of Five political criminals wanting to obstruct justice recommend Bleach Bit.

It worked for Hillary, It'll work for you too.

[muffdvr]

As of now the Personals section is still up on BP. When that goes down so goes this hobby of ours.

I checked out Utopia Guide, Best Gfe and GFE Forum this morning and surprisingly not a word of commentary on what just happened. Not a post from the admin, not a topic by any members. Nothing.

Are they trying to wish it away?

[Torquez]

Is BP US based? It is fairly active in trans community in UK.

[Laphroaig]

Is BP US based? It is fairly active in trans community in UK.
BP as in Birchplace or Backpage?

[KelliBlueEyes]

I was already in the process of building an encrypted ultra-privacy platform run on the blockchain, these actions by the authorities only further highlights the need for such a thing. It will be decentralized across the internet meaning there are no central servers involved and therefore it's control and information stored does not reside in any jurisdiction anywhere on the planet. The only way to shut it down would be to literally turn off the internet.. well good luck with that.

We can simply build a decentralized application on top of it for advertising TS escort services and building a reviews forum etc. Users information will be kept 100% anonymous and private (except if you disclose on the forum of course.. like escorts advertising their name & phone number). It can be accessed from anywhere in world by anyone.. it can't be blocked!!

The underlying blockchain platform can even have its own fully anonymous cryptocurrency for payment of escort services, or for porn, or for whatever people want to use it for - maybe even for tipping other users for good reviews. It will be secure and 100% untraceable.

These bastards won't stop us. Stay tuned folks!


Why don't you guys just start a Discord or Slack server?

[alcoolsrimbood]

some of those threads in that review section were very hot and interesting...sick of the Christian sharia warriors in this country trying to limit the American people's freedoms..hypocrites...

[smalltownguy]

Why don't you guys just start a Discord or Slack server?

Why would someone use discord over slack?

a good a question here in the sense that Discord is not all that different from Slack ! They’re both chat and communication platforms, they have web, mobile and desktop interfaces, and are used by people for the intent of communicating via text, video or voice.

However, I think what really sets Discord out against Slack [and vice-a-versa] is its target audience. Slack was made to help teams (like businesses, developers, formal-types) chat and collaborate. Discord was made to help connect gamers, and has grown to help connect people that have an aligned common interest. So really, in a sense, it comes down to the core functionalities that are important to folks.

There are some other reasons I can think of that come to mind for why people would use Discord over Slack. The biggest one I can think of is the community itself . . . because of the way that Discord is set up, it’s easy to join ‘servers’ and navigate between them. Even now, I am a member of something to the effect of ten or so servers . . . it’s much more difficult to navigate between Slack rooms, and you sure as heck can’t add ‘friends’ on Slack or see what folks are playing or doing.

So, at the end of the day, Discord feels almost like a social network linked and banded together by communities. I like to describe it as a ‘real time reddit’ because of the way that you join many specific servers (subreddits) and join ongoing conversations (posts.) Slack is not like this a lot because it focuses on building a service that is curated for businesses and internal communications so in turn, Slack comes off more like a conference call or a corporate chat room.

[passivedude]

some of those threads in that review section were very hot and interesting...sick of the Christian sharia warriors in this country trying to limit the American people's freedoms..hypocrites...

I'm sick of it in England too.

[BeardedOne]

The state of Delaware has been booting around a junior version of this bullshit (Both Carper and Coons voted for it, by the way) and it's turned the legal massage industry on its ear. The fine print allows 'deputization' to 'inspectors' allowing them all-access to any such business, whether office, commercial plaza, or home-based. No room in the business is exempt and operators must allow entry to the inspectors.

So, say some soccer mom is a legal therapist, sports massage, prescripted physical therapy, etc. and has a home office, zoning variance, license, medical insurance, performs proper intake (All those lovely forms you fill out at your doctor's office), insurance billing, etc. Mrs. Bitchyneighbor gets a bug up her ass about some bad flower arrangement along a shared drive, so she 'deputizes' herself and invites herself in. According to the law, as written, she cannot be denied entry. When she gets to little Janie's bedroom she finds the door is locked (Remember: Access must be granted to ALL rooms at the location). Little Janie is workin' her boyfriend's knob (Or her girlfriend's feline regions - We're all adults here) and refuses to open the door. BY LAW, Mrs. Bitchyneighbor has the authority to call in the police to investigate 'suspicious activity'. The police come, inspect the entire premises (Janie has, by now, gotten her shit together and opened the door), examine the licenses, the business documents, etc. and find nothing out of the ordinary. They leave.

Meanwhile, every neighbor on the street has seen the prowlers in front of the house, cops going in and out, and the inevitable newspaper blotter quip: 'Local police investigate possible prostitution on Cherry Lane'. Kiss that legal side business goodbye, your neighbors will whisper, and Janie's beau ditches her because his evangelical thumpermentalist mom doesn't want him hangin' with 'that kind of girl'.

And who pushed this shit? Under the guise of preventing 'trafficking'? None other than Mrs. Bitchyneighbor and her ilk, some of whom give handys in the kitchen on a slow afternoon for bingo money and are upset that the Asian parlors are stealing their business. And the legal massage therapists that think their lack of business is due to the existence of Asian parlors and has nothing to do with the fact that there are literally THOUSANDS of them in the state that were all lured to dreams of riches by the hundreds of massage schools that push them to half-assed 'careers' where most of them can't even grasp the concept of a business license.

Guess what, pissy white ladies, you didn't read the fine print. Little Janie's going to have to quit school now because everyone is calling her legally licensed, fully trained, medically certified therapist mom a 'common' whore.

And you're next.

[BeardedOne]

An edit to the above rant:

Delaware HB 35 became law on January 1, 2018

[Torquez]

From what I understand Discord reserves the right to erase any group not discussing gaming.

[Torquez]

BP as in Birchplace or Backpage?

Birchplace.
I think Backpage doesn't care about non US business being affected

[passivedude]

This was a great resource for advice on t-girl escorts and a wonderful place to chat. Reviews, warnings of dodgy girls, recommendations it was all here. I hope someone can start a UK based TS escort review site.

[Shelover22]

Rofl

[KelliBlueEyes]

From what I understand Discord reserves the right to erase any group not discussing gaming.

IDK people are using it for alot of other chats that have nothing to do with gaming

[Laphroaig]

Rofl

What's so funny? Share the joke...

[Sabrina TS]

Birchplace.
I think Backpage doesn't care about non US business being affected

Birchpace is a UK site so it doesn't care about the Yanks being affected.

[gaysian71]

Full blown censorship. Nothing more, nothing less.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Just want to say a few things...........

Yes the review section is down for new posts but as of the time I typed this all of the prior threads were still up for researching someone that most likely has been reviewed several times. That's a good thing.

Yes, Craigslist is down, but to be fair 80% of the photo ads on CL were bait & switch, you know that GG pornstar living in Los Angeles was not in some apartment in Corona.....

There's a plethora of free chat apps available that can take the place of what's been lost. The downside being once the chat is over, what you dont save is gone, BUT, that works in your favor also. Let's be honest there are some workers who think the reviews are making them lose business so they log on under aliases to bash members, a chat group would eliminate that factor.

my .02 cents, my email and IM's are always open.....

JWBL

[BeardedOne]

If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, these motherfuckers will twist the legalese to make that damned duck into an arm-eating alligator if it so suits them. The wording, and/or lack thereof, is sufficient to lock down a site through litigation long enough to cripple and ruin it.



And most importantly:
"The Internet Association stated that it would "support targeted amendments to the Communications Decency Act that would allow victims of sex trafficking crimes to seek justice against perpetrators", but initially criticized SESTA for using terms which were undefined or broadly-interpreted in case law, and argued that it would "introduce new legal risk not just for internet services that do not knowingly and intentionally facilitate illegal conduct, but also create risk for an incredibly broad number of innocent businesses by expanding the notion of contributory liability."[17] The Internet Association pledged support for SESTA on November 3, 2017 after an agreement to clarify portions of it; in particular, the definition of "participation in a venture" was amended to replace "knowing conduct by an individual or entity, by any means, that assists, supports, or facilitates a violation" with just "knowingly assisting, supporting, or facilitating a violation"."

[filghy2]

Birchplace.
I think Backpage doesn't care about non US business being affected

Backpage in Australia has been completely unaffected by any of the changes in the US or UK (where explicit pics and videos have disappeared). I'm not a lawyer, but they must be confident that their branches in other countries are shielded.

[BeardedOne]

On the upside, a long lost school chum just reminded me of the Fourth Amendment (Search and seizure) and how it applies to Delaware HB 35. Ooh, I haven't seen a good fight 'round here in a long time. :)

Lemme attum! Lemme attum! :D

[jamesh123]

Isn't the solution dead simple.. Have the forum moved to a server outside the USA. ?!

[nysprod]

I was already in the process of building an encrypted ultra-privacy platform run on the blockchain.

These bastards won't stop us. Stay tuned folks!

It's a beautiful thought but I believe you'll need 'miners' doing de-encryption, no?

[nysprod]

Why don't you guys just start a Discord or Slack server?

I think if someone is somehow organizing a message board where there's going to be escorts and people looking for them, they could potentially face legal issues under this new legislation.

[CD_Sasha]

Seeing how the other threads are still live, can't HA admins just renamed the "NY Escort Review" title thread to exclude the word "escort"? How does the new US congress bill apply to scan sites or threads that would be considered Sex Trafficking? They have had to setup looking up keywords.

[flabbybody]

Seeing how the other threads are still live, can't HA admins just renamed the "NY Escort Review" title thread to exclude the word "escort"? How does the new US congress bill apply to scan sites or threads that would be considered Sex Trafficking? They have had to setup looking up keywords.
If people posted links to escort ads in their reviews it might be a legal risk. I don’t think anyone is really sure how exactly the new bill applies to businesses but no one’s too keen on becoming a test case.

[filghy2]

I doubt that would work because there will still be incriminating words in the posts - try googling 'escorts hung angels' to see what I mean. But the key point is that there is no upside for Grooby in taking such a risk.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Therapeutic section and Lessons sections still on CL.
Expect a large amount of newly non-licensed TS masseuses in your area. LOL

Forgive the laughter, I am just old enough to remember the days when they all posted in Screw magazine or the Village Voice........

[MaxB63]

Wonder about Adultwork?

I believe it's based in Malta, definitely not US in any case.

[Torris]

some of those threads in that review section were very hot and interesting...sick of the Christian sharia warriors in this country trying to limit the American people's freedoms..hypocrites...

Once again, it is not just the religious right who sponsored and supported this. It also came from the Nanny State Leftists. You know, the ones who want to ban 44 ounce sodas. Because it is “for your own good.”

[peejaye]

Once again, it is not just the religious right who sponsored and supported this. It also came from the Nanny State Leftists. You know, the ones who want to ban 44 ounce sodas. Because it is “for your own good.”

I had this out only last week. The "Left" get the blame for it in the UK too but the very highly paid Civil servants (£150-200K +per year) who implement this garbage are not from the Left! We haven't had a left wing Government in this fucking place for 40 years & it's going crazy! Neither have you have you?

[give us a t please bob]

absolutely gutted about this but a big thank you to Steven and all the moderators. I will really miss this invaluable source, the end of an era.

[muffdvr]

Sorry for the long post, but I saw this in the TER Forum and thought it to be very useful and informative.



The Senate Just Passed a Bill That Puts Sex Workers In Danger.

The SESTA-FOSTA bill makes platforms more liable for their users’ speech, and that’s not good for anyone.
The internet just became a more hostile place for sex workers, victims of sex trafficking, and fans of internet freedom: The Senate voted 97-2 to pass SESTA on Wednesday, making websites liable for what their users say and do on their platforms.

The solution is to go the other way, to legalize and regulate sex work!

We are safe for US providers!

We are based in Europe, we do not have offices or call centers in US, we are hosting in Europe (in Amsterdam, because the Netherlands has long been a leader in the battle for privacy and data protection), and charging through EU banks (Switzerland and Germany) no connection to US, we are safe for US providers.
xxxxx is an international website, but we do get the most traffic from the US.
Our current US Alexa rank is around 21,000

Here is a list of solutions and direct resources to assist you.

It could take from 90 days until 2019 for SESTA and FOSTA to go into action, so keep calm and use that time to change things.
We’ve always been smarter and we will survive!

Build your Escort Website on Wordpress and host overseas in a Switzerland, Netherland or Australian based web host where sex work is legal. Netherlands hosting reviews.

We recommend Excelnode.
It is the best offshore adult web hosting, prostitution in the Netherlands is legal and regulated.
The price is very low, only $2.99/month. You will get a free cPanel, 24/7 support, they solve all problems within a minute.
99.9% uptime, and they offer free migration.

Do not use .com, .net, or .org.
Regardless of where your site is hosted, US has total jurisdiction over those domains.
ICANN.Org has a comprehensive list of alternative top level domains that the US doesn't control. (pick a domain in a country where sex work is legal)
We will do the same.

For your domain names use a registrar outside the US.
You can choose it from this list.

Encrypt Everything!
Google might be under pressure to crack down on consensual sex workers. This applies to both regular accounts and Google suites accounts.
Use ProtonMail for email. Make 2 accounts, one primary and one recovery.
Encourage clients to do the same so your communications are encrypted.
Use a TOR browser.

Don't use iCloud or Google Drive for your images.
Do not store your content on Google Drive. This is a violation of their TOS and they may delete your account without warning.
Google is legally allowed to hand over your data to the police whenever they wish, or LE can purchase your data from them like any other customer.

With the patriot act, the government can request any of your private information.
Also, it's generally not a good idea to accept google gift cards from clients because if they dispute the charge or report the card stolen, it can make you unable to claim cards in the future.
SpiderOak is an encrypted photo cloud service.

Boxcryptor allows you to encrypt files before uploading them to your cloud service and works with Google Drive and iCloud.
It protects your data in the cloud with end-to-end encryption.

Encrypt your website, make sure it has SSL (secure socket layers)
Anyone who owns a domain name can use Let’s Encrypt to obtain a trusted certificate at zero cost.

Install a VPN an all of your mobile devices and computers.
Use VPN servers to hide web traffic.
TunnelBear has a free/cheap and very easy to use VPN.

Never use your personal phone.
Use a burner phone for work calls and text only.
Don't publish this number online unless you don't mind disposing of it.
If it's published, don't travel with this phone.

Clean up your websites and social media of any key terms and abbreviations (gfe, pse, incall,...etc) be vague.
It may lose clients, but better safe than sorry.

Don't post nudes or anything detailed about work on social media, try to make your account seem like a "normal" one.

Get certified as some type of consultant (happiness, sex, relationship, life,...etc) and market yourself as that.
Don't brand yourself as an escort.

Be careful of where you advertise.
Rewrite your ads, especially on sites based in the US. (the safest is to remove your ads from US based websites)
Avoid trigger words and anything sexually explicit.

xxxxx is based in Europe and has structures in place that act to protect anyone who uses the website especially the providers.
When registering with xxxxxx no IDs are collected, escorts are not obliged to verify their profiles but those who do choose to verify their profiles all verification information is immediately deleted from the servers and no backups are kept. It is the best way to ensure that advertisers are SAFE and can run their businesses without having to worry about a possible breach of data.
We are cautious about how we encrypt and store the data, we do not give out ANY information to third party companies, especially not for a company based in the US, so there is no chance data can be taken from us. We already updated our servers, and to protect you and your data even better we were migrating some data to a new hosting, where not only the servers are offshore (in Amsterdam, because the Netherlands has long been a leader in the battle for privacy and data protection) but all connected companies as well, so like this no data will be accessible in any way.

Consider locking your website for screened clients only.
If not the entire site, then donation pages.

Have a warning contract at the enter page to your site. Make it more detailed than just requiring viewers to be 18 plus.
State that money is a donation for your time only. That your site isn't a solicitation for prostitution in any form.
That they will not use your site or ads as a mean for entrapment or arrest.
Make sure it's clear that it's a contract that they agree to by contacting you.

Pay your taxes! Register your brand as a LLC so it's a legal business.

Communicate what is going on with your clients and friends so they are aware.
Strongly advise them to only communicate with you through encrypted methods such as ProtonMail.

Never store your money in online US based accounts.

Do not post cell phone pictures from the hotel you are staying at unless there is nothing that identifies that room.

And please, don't panic. Be extremely careful, don't show your face right now, use a VPN at all times.

The current uncertainty surrounding SESTA and other US-based escort ad platforms has left many US providers wondering if their businesses will be around for much longer. Many of you think it's getting scary, and you are getting tired of trying to figure out new sites to advertise on. We are up, and functioning, and not going anywhere!

Advertising cost in the sex industry is so high. Some of the other websites prices are absolutely insane, some just doubled their advertising prices.
We are still very budget-friendly, and try to stay that way.
We still have a free ad option, and we offer some of the most cost effective adult advertising packages on the internet.

SESTA/FOSTA passed the Senate. This bill is a bad digital policy and bad for the safety of sex workers.
We are here to support you!

[Boomerang Man]

I too am gutted about this. What an invaluable resource the review section has been for me and so many others. Including the girls themselves, those that offer a great service. I am growing weary of dictats, political sledgehammers that piss on the fires of fun. What a sad world we are living in.

[jacqui_jones]

I am gutted about the review section being lost on here. I have always thought that the reviews on here have been very very fair.

As an escort, the reviews left for me on here I have been very complimented about what has been said. I am not the best TS escort and I wont ever be, I have provided a good steady service at a good steady price. After reading this I know that reviews will be left on ukpunting. I am not happy about this at all. The reviews that are left on there are fierce, unfair, picky and very aggressive. Guys that have left positive reviews have been banned and the posts deleted, they have been called wimps, white knights, arse lickers etc etc.

I have been very happy to mentioned on here and has been taken as a compliment, I do not wish and now I fear being reviewed on ukpunting as it has the ability to ruin my business.

I understand why this has happened on hung angels, I think its a great shame for a great site and to the nice guys who come on here. Its a resource that will truly be missed.

All my love to the guys on here, take care

Jacqui Jones xxx

[Looking 4 Now]

This may not be the worst thing for some of us New York guys. If Eros and Backpage get shut down, which I suspect they will a lot of girls are going to be out of work and are only going to have one choice.... back to the street, and in Queens we know what street that is going to be. I also suspect some Luchos type clubs will start to appear again so it's not a good situation, but it may have a few good side effects

[Torris]

I had this out only last week. The "Left" get the blame for it in the UK too but the very highly paid Civil servants (£150-200K +per year) who implement this garbage are not from the Left! We haven't had a left wing Government in this fucking place for 40 years & it's going crazy! Neither have you have you?

Gore Vidal: America has twin wings of the business party

[Vector1818]

I personally welcome this shut down. Between the ridiculous prices these girls were demanding, all the bait and switch, fake pics from pic collectors, etc! This is a perfect opportunity for a fresh start. Someone create an overseas server and create a page that truly screens the posts! Make it a requirement for the girls to post the amount of roses they require, and they must validate their picture somehow! If you want to post on my page, photo ID and your rates!

Also, why don’t we start a group chat on WhatsApp or another app for now just for reviews and stuff?? Or if one has been created already, can I get the info??

[dreamon]

Therapeutic section and Lessons sections still on CL.
Expect a large amount of newly non-licensed TS masseuses in your area. LOL

Forgive the laughter, I am just old enough to remember the days when they all posted in Screw magazine or the Village Voice........

What about people who are actually posting for dating/hookups, not for sessions?

[MrPerfect]

What a tragedy, I hope this is eventually overturned somehow in the name of free speech. I do wonder , will this create a buyers market?.... by the time summer comes Roosevelt and that evolution club which I have yet you go may be full of starving hot ts, I hope so .... I'm hoping to see the price range from a grant to a Benjamin tops.....the current value market was getting ridiculous.... just trying to look at the bright side of this fucking freedom debacle ...

[_nirvana_]

Hey! Could you add me in onto the new forum for india? It would be a great favour. Thanks.

[aloksingh]

So now what? They push everyone back out onto the street? Better get on that line for prep meds now!!!
Hey bro if u r making a different review site fir Indian shemales pls send me the link

[surewhynot76]

I have been very happy to mentioned on here and has been taken as a compliment, I do not wish and now I fear being reviewed on ukpunting as it has the ability to ruin my business.

I understand why this has happened on hung angels, I think its a great shame for a great site and to the nice guys who come on here. Its a resource that will truly be missed.

All my love to the guys on here, take care

Jacqui Jones xxx

UKP has some very strict moderation and is very bias towards the punters but in general it is very fair and they do allow a service provider a right of reply. It is refreshing to see a site where you get 99% honest and informative reviews which actually help punters make a decision. You are mistaken that girls only get negative reviews on there. There are some providers with 100+ reviews, all positive. If you provide good service, you will get good reviews. No hiding behind fake reviews. For the punters at least, its a good thing. If you think real reviews will be a detriment to your business, it may be time to re-evaluate your service levels.

[jacqui_jones]

UKP has some very strict moderation and is very bias towards the punters but in general it is very fair and they do allow a service provider a right of reply. It is refreshing to see a site where you get 99% honest and informative reviews which actually help punters make a decision. You are mistaken that girls only get negative reviews on there. There are some providers with 100+ reviews, all positive. If you provide good service, you will get good reviews. No hiding behind fake reviews. For the punters at least, its a good thing. If you think real reviews will be a detriment to your business, it may be time to re-evaluate your service levels.

Sorry but I have to disagree with you very strongly. I know many girls who provide a very high standard of service and received very nit picky negative reviews, cis girl escorts and TS escorts. I have only ever received positive reviews, on here and AW. The majority of my clients are repeat clients.

[Mike11]

You can always write reviews of trans girls on UK punting. If you dare......

[Laphroaig]

You can always write reviews of trans girls on UK punting. If you dare......

I have, no issues yet, though I'm well aware of the members who love to point out that "you've just fucked a bloke in a dress"...

[alcoolsrimbood]

i can see their supposed logic to shut down the bp,craiglist sites on the human trafficking grounds.however i don't understand how they can shut up reviews ,blogs,forums etc as long as these communications don't have any personal info to connectto the escorts-phone numbers,contact info etc...it seems to fall under a free speech issue with out that info...do restaurant reviews get shut down if a restaurant is a mob front??..i think the forum here had some good ground rules to keep it in the free speech realm of dialogue vs actually trafficking,soliciting etc..

[jgbtts]

i can see their supposed logic to shut down the bp,craiglist sites on the human trafficking grounds.however i don't understand how they can shut up reviews ,blogs,forums etc as long as these communications don't have any personal info to connectto the escorts-phone numbers,contact info etc...it seems to fall under a free speech issue with out that info...do restaurant reviews get shut down if a restaurant is a mob front??..i think the forum here had some good ground rules to keep it in the free speech realm of dialogue vs actually trafficking,soliciting etc..
Dont forget 'they' have not shut down anything, its the site owners that are taking action to avoid legal ramifications. It doesnt really matter what rules are in place, the whole thing boils down to risk. The laws are vague and untested in the courts. Untill it is ascertained exactly what is acceptable by some test cases then web site owners and operators will take a risk based approach to decide what they allow.

Stephen has decided it is not worth the risk of becoming involved in one of these test cases, which is an entirely understandable position when you consider that there is no money made directly from that part of the forum.

Whether the reviews generate enough traffic to the rest of the site to make them worthwhile only time will tell, but personally I doubt it unless some test case can prove the legality of hosting such a discussion.

I look forward to being a part of any future european based forum or rejoining the party here if and when this shit blows over.

I just want to thank those that have made this place what it is, stephen and a few other notable people who im sure we all know. Its been a great resource that I have enjoyed being a part of.

[Vladimir Putin]

Does that mean the Eros site is expected to come down as well?

[flabbybody]

Does that mean the Eros site is expected to come down as well?
They might decide to just take down the US section only, but would it be worth maintaining the business for what’s left?
I’m sure they’re contemplating their options (they all seem bleak)

[androgyne]

I had this out only last week. The "Left" get the blame for it in the UK too but the very highly paid Civil servants (£150-200K +per year) who implement this garbage are not from the Left! We haven't had a left wing Government in this fucking place for 40 years & it's going crazy! Neither have you have you?

we've only had left wing governments in the uk - you think the conservatives are right wing? What we have in the UK is a very long way away from free enterprise capitalism -its nanny state blair light

[anuz123]

Warned of this few weeks back on the India forum of the looming danger of escort classifieds business coming to an end. Some of the businesses have shifted their domain and businesses overseas minus the classifieds for USA region as they will be still liable for criminal charges if its ownership is established originating from USA, so anyone of you still hopefull of return of the threads via some portal registered outside USA can forget it.

[Ts RedVeX]

Oh. Looks like finally some peeps are waking up from their slumber:D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs

[GroobySteven]

Does that mean the Eros site is expected to come down as well?


Eros is now owned by a EU company from what I believe.

[surewhynot76]

Sorry but I have to disagree with you very strongly. I know many girls who provide a very high standard of service and received very nit picky negative reviews, cis girl escorts and TS escorts. I have only ever received positive reviews, on here and AW. The majority of my clients are repeat clients.

Whats nit picky to you may be serious to someone else. Everyone is different which is why reviews from a variety of punters is helpful to create a more balanced view of a service provider - which is what review sites should be about. Next time you receive nit picky reviews, take it on board and rectify it, however small.

On AW, you can only review escorts you've confirmed a booking with - I find people are less likely to show their true feelings once an escort knows who they really are. Good job on having repeat clients, but imagine a review site where all you get are "repeat clients" not really adding anything new to a thread, only comments like "she's great, go see her" - not massively helpful to a prospective new client. The old reviews board here was a bit like that and very cliqy. Good for the ego maybe.

[kyuss33]

To me migrating to UKP would be a disaster. One of the things I liked about HA review forums is the generally positive view towards many of the girls and many of the girls actually post here. UKP users seem to really disdain for the girls and a have a feeling of being above them, it's a really grim culture over there. Not to mention the fact that they hate trans women with a passion. Surely there's got to be a better alternative?

[Hydrant]

Don't have time to read all 18 pages of comment on this very unwelcome move, so I don't know if this point has been made already or not.

Reluctantly accepting the logic of the decision, would it still not be possible to keep individual posts to the reviews thread accessible to the people who made them via their profiles but not publicly available to anyone else?

There are reviews of mine on that board going way back that I would have copied had I thought that something like this was going to happen.

[jacqui_jones]

To me migrating to UKP would be a disaster. One of the things I liked about HA review forums is the generally positive view towards many of the girls and many of the girls actually post here. UKP users seem to really disdain for the girls and a have a feeling of being above them, it's a really grim culture over there. Not to mention the fact that they hate trans women with a passion. Surely there's got to be a better alternative?

you are spot on

[hugeadmirer]

A new forum has been created for the uk. Trans escort uk. It’s not yet easy to find via google so please inbox me and I’ll send you the link


To me migrating to UKP would be a disaster. One of the things I liked about HA review forums is the generally positive view towards many of the girls and many of the girls actually post here. UKP users seem to really disdain for the girls and a have a feeling of being above them, it's a really grim culture over there. Not to mention the fact that they hate trans women with a passion. Surely there's got to be a better alternative?

[Pnoz]

Can you send me the link by message please? Im on my mobile and cant figure out how to send a private message

[Bigdickdeep]

Well escort section HA used to serve as a helpful mean of finding right girls many guys get cheated by escorts who edit their pics heavily and cheat guys at least this page used to be a right place to inform people so that they can be saved from getting cheated..now it's gone and those cheat people got the edge again.

[CDale60]

They might decide to just take down the US section only, but would it be worth maintaining the business for what’s left?
I’m sure they’re contemplating their options (they all seem bleak)

I would hope that the servers that hold those reviews are wiped clean, if they have not already been served with notice to preserve potential evidence. A few state investigations reported in the US have gone after reviewers for promoting. Reaching out to Hillary may provide the steps necessary for deleting such posts.

[tempwork]

Why not move this whole website to a different country or off-shore where the rules are more flexible

[GroobySteven]

Why not move this whole website to a different country or off-shore where the rules are more flexible


I'm fucking tired of repeating this.

This forum belongs to a company. The company is based in the US and is a legal entity in the US.
Regardless of where a website is, the company that owns it is liable for anything illegal done on it. 'Follow the money'.

[smalltownguy]

Why not move this whole website to a different country or off-shore where the rules are more flexible

so its about company which owns this website ....and company is in USA
i am sad to let escort channels go but happy that we still have general discussions :party:

[j_rogers1983]

Hi hugeadmirer, I'm the same as pnoz and using my phone!
Could you please inbox me the link for UK forum.
Thanks in advance, Jon.

[edgein]

Please let me know the new platform

[Colgan]

Any chance I could have the link to the uk forum too please

[Getshorter]

A new forum has been created for the uk. Trans escort uk. It’s not yet easy to find via google so please inbox me and I’ll send you the link

Ah. The joy of living in a country which still has a little freedom.

[Ts RedVeX]

Couldn't the US-based company sell it..?

[Matt83]

Can someone send me a link to the new forum please.

[DollyJEscort]

I so wish we could’ve been notified about this sudden cut off point before closing down the Reviews forum so that we as escorts could’ve saved/screenshot our own threads to send on to anyone questioning our services. Thanks anyway to all those of you that left me great reviews (and to the 1 that didn’t haha)

Have fun guys and happy future punting I’m sure another review site will pick up soon enough but will never be on the same scale as Hung angels. What a shame. X

[GroobySteven]

Couldn't the US-based company sell it..?

Sure - do you want to put an offer in?

[Ts RedVeX]

How bout a dollar, while you get to manage it the way it had been managed up until before you deleted those reviews?

[GroobySteven]

How bout a dollar, while you get to manage it the way it had been managed up until before you deleted those reviews?

Yeah ... I'l pass thanks :-)

[Ts RedVeX]

😣bueeeeeeee!!

[SheLoverKVB]

Hey bro if u r making a different review site fir Indian shemales pls send me the link

Send me a PM for the link.

[SheLoverKVB]

Please let me know the new platform

Send me a PM for the link to the new India forum.

[Bigdickdeep]

Hey please pm me the link of indian escort review..

[rattlesnake979]

Send me a PM for the link to the new India forum.

Hi KV I have messaged you to share the Indian forum link

[Blore shemale lover]

Kv bro Hi pls send me the link for new thread

[TomTom84]

A new forum has been created for the uk. Trans escort uk. It’s not yet easy to find via google so please inbox me and I’ll send you the link

Hi Huge admirer,

I would really appreciate the link.
Thanks in advance

[darknight01]

Hi I'm on a mobile and can't find the link to PM you. Is it possible for you to send me the link please? Thanks

[lookin]

Please send me the Indian link as well and thanks in advance!!

[abrooklynman718]

please PM me the link as well. Thanks in advance!

[BeardedOne]

You would know the international business models best, but how difficult would it be to have a UK (Or other nation) holding company take over ownership/operation?

I wonder if Sealand or the Trash Isles have a commerce ministry. :)

Edited: I worked for an accounting firm that leased its building from a real estate firm it owned while leasing computer equipment from a firm that was owned by the real estate company.


Sure - do you want to put an offer in?

[GroobySteven]

You would know the international business models best, but how difficult would it be to have a UK (Or other nation) holding company take over ownership/operation?

I wonder if Sealand or the Trash Isles have a commerce ministry. :)

Edited: I worked for an accounting firm that leased its building from a real estate firm it owned while leasing computer equipment from a firm that was owned by the real estate company.


If this was my business I'd look into it. It's not. We don't make money from escort ads. We did have to remove one advertiser but apart from that, we're not involved in that business.

[freexerjin]

Hi there can I get the UK link too please?

[Nicaparavida]

Please feel free to send the link to me as well. Would love another alternative to replace the chaos occurring! Thanks!

[InsideMan]

Link me please – kind thanks!

[Cerberus]

Me too please!

Thank you.

[surewhynot76]

Please send me a link to the new uk forum, thanks

[mcambowe]

please send me the link for the uk!! spanks!!

[Poplife]

PM me the link

[Nikka]

Oh. Looks like finally some peeps are waking up from their slumber:D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs


:dead:

[Nikka]

Eros is now owned by a EU company from what I believe.

this is correct I just saw that 1 week ago

u can host HA in Chile, 50% for me ....

[Nikka]

This may not be the worst thing for some of us New York guys. If Eros and Backpage get shut down, which I suspect they will a lot of girls are going to be out of work and are only going to have one choice.... back to the street, and in Queens we know what street that is going to be

well I like this .... then I will start my own Eros hosted in Chilean Antarctica , beating up girls who don´t pay on time

[SheLoverKVB]

Hey please pm me the link of indian escort review..

Send me a PM.

[SheLoverKVB]

Hi KV I have messaged you to share the Indian forum link

Just replied.

[SheLoverKVB]

Kv bro Hi pls send me the link for new thread

Send me a PM bud.

[slave2u]

Wow free speech is alive and free in the land of liberty, eh? What bullshit.

I found the escort reviews very, very valuable and informative. Sad day for freedom of speech.

Not sure about freedom of speech, but I am going to miss warnings to avoid certain girls because they are not good providers.

[rapidviper]

Can you PM me the new uk forum please.

[jtj]

Can someone send me a link to a new uk forum please?

[smalltownguy]

well I like this .... then I will start my own Eros hosted in Chilean Antarctica , beating up girls who don´t pay on time

beating up ...is great
but you already have a bunch of sites on your signature...are these working fine?

[dwayne007]

Can someone pm me the UK Forum link please? :)

[smalltownguy]

this is correct I just saw that 1 week ago

u can host HA in Chile, 50% for me ....

:dead:

[Ben in LA]

Over on Twitter, some girls are going to #Switter.

https://switter.at/about

[justali]

Can you please send me the link for the uk forum as well thank you

[djonsey190]

Can someone please link mw to the uk site please

[MarcusOrallio]

Please may I also have the link to the new UK site.
Also, is there any way the data from here can be transferred to it?

[jake999]

may i have the link as well

[dbxxx]

Can someone please measage me the link to the new UK forum? Thanks!

[rogerrc]

Would also appreciate a link to the uk forum

[Mu88]

Can I get a link to the uk forum too please

[bobby4864]

Can someone please send me the link to UK review Forum ? !!
Thanks

[CLEO181]

Can someone please send me the link to UK review Forum ? !!
Thanks

[Luckyman617]

Please PM me the new link. Thanks in advance!

[Hermes_Pan]

I posted here but am the only one:)
I checked posting rules and it seems ok to post a link
http://trans-talk.com/

[Getshorter]

I posted here but am the only one:)
I checked posting rules and it seems ok to post a link
http://trans-talk.com/

So now we have 2 competing forums. Probably unhelpful. So if it's not against forum rules. http://trans-escortsuk.forumotion.com

[Laphroaig]

Hermes Pan and Getshorter, the sentiments are appreciated, but as another member was banned for posting links like those, it's somewhat unwise. Presumably, with the new laws, linking to discussions of escorts is potentially just as risky as actually discussing them.

[johncock0]

LOL. I find it hilarious how all the ones asking for a link in particular those voted for this administration trying to save their little freedom! Remember you voted for hate and suppression also remember that we all are in the same boat, hopefully lesson learned. While it was a bipartisan passed bill don't forget it was a republican introduced bill and soon to be signed by a republican president. If dems didn't approved or go along with the bill, it would off make them seen as evil for allowing trafficking! Sad. No matter how partisan you are, don't forget it was a republican introduced bill and signed by a republican president. Sad and dark times that above all other crimes and more horrific/sinister crimes in the US the US gov is more concerned with sex and porn in particular republicans! :mad:

-Non-partisian opinion, welcomed to disagree

[edgein]

Please pm me buddy with the new link. Can't seem to be able to pm you. Thanks

[edgein]

Damn ! What next ?? Are they going to ban sex now ???

I’ll create the India Escorts review thread on another platform. PM me for details.

Cheers
KV

Buddy please pm me the link to the new thread. Not able to pm you. Thanks

[SheLoverKVB]

Buddy please pm me the link to the new thread. Not able to pm you. Thanks


Have sent you the link to the new forum. Check your personal messages.

[Laphroaig]

Very amusing to see all the low post lurkers who contributed fuck all, asking for the links to leach off a new forum...