Editing Thread Names

[ssell10]

Hi,

Would it be possible to amend some of the thread names here so that they do not involve outdated terms such as "tranny" or 'shemale".

I think we should move with the times and respect everyone, including trans woman far more

Thanks

[dakota87]

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet

[broncofan]

It's a far better idea to encourage people to use more sensitive and thoughtful language than to edit what they wrote in every instance or pretend they wrote something different.

[giovanni_hotel]

Shemale is being phased out of TS porn.
Other than that, I think it's foolish to expect that much political correctness in porn.

[josehip]

please!
but people are stupid. They will use those names anyways, It's just sad.

[ssell10]

Yeah it would be good to try to take a step in the right direction

[flabbybody]

Hi,

Would it be possible to amend some of the thread names here so that they do not involve outdated terms such as "tranny" or 'shemale".

I think we should move with the times and respect everyone, including trans woman far more

Thanks
what would be accomplished? As broncofan says, let's do our part to encourage people to be more thoughtful about eliminating the use of words that have come to be hurtful and disrespectful.
BTW will we ever come up with a less demeaning word than chaser to describe guys like me?

[KelliBlueEyes]

what would be accomplished? As broncofan says, let's do our part to encourage people to be more thoughtful about eliminating the use of words that have come to be hurtful and disrespectful.
BTW will we ever come up with a less demeaning word than chaser to describe guys like me?

Trans-amorous

[smalltownguy]

yes well said , now i can say i am Transamorous

[rodinuk]

Probably not because changing a thread name doesn't propagate the change down the thread post titles.




Hi,

Would it be possible to amend some of the thread names here so that they do not involve outdated terms such as "tranny" or 'shemale".

I think we should move with the times and respect everyone, including trans woman far more

Thanks

[josehip]

I think the solution is not a edit option, but a list of banned words. if an adult knows that he or she will be offensive to other users (and tries to write the words anyway, it means that this user is being stupid on purpose), then the site should simply block the word from being posted. In titles or in replies to topics.

[ssell10]

A small step in a change in attitude towards trans woman would be accomplished.

Rome wasn't built in a day.

[ssell10]

Probably not because changing a thread name doesn't propagate the change down the thread post titles.

Gotta start somewhere though

[GroobySteven]

1. No I wouldn't look at changing the threads, the same way we didn't go back through 21 years of content and erase history when we changed Shemale Yum to GroobyGirls.
2. No we're not censoring or editing those words here. I can't think of a word that we do censor, so certainly not going to start with them.

If it does offend you, then you are welcome to post about it. But this site also isn't going to become anything than it always has been.

[ssell10]

1. No I wouldn't look at changing the threads, the same way we didn't go back through 21 years of content and erase history when we changed Shemale Yum to GroobyGirls.
2. No we're not censoring or editing those words here. I can't think of a word that we do censor, so certainly not going to start with them.

If it does offend you, then you are welcome to post about it. But this site also isn't going to become anything than it always has been.

But you changed to Grooby Girls, my point was to follow your example

[GroobySteven]

But you changed to Grooby Girls, my point was to follow your example

Very different to change the name of a product than to go back and edit or sanitize history.

[Ts RedVeX]

More bloody homophobic communists wanting waive their own freedom of speech by censorship... disgusting

[Lester316]

Couldn't words/thread titles that aren't appropriate be put in the same category as things like requesting links to tube sites/providing them?

Then those that repeat offend get a warning and eventually a ban for a period of time; they might think more about what language they use if eventually they lose site access for a period of time.

[GroobySteven]

Couldn't words/thread titles that aren't appropriate be put in the same category as things like requesting links to tube sites/providing them?

Then those that repeat offend get a warning and eventually a ban for a period of time; they might think more about what language they use if eventually they lose site access for a period of time.


No. We're not policing words which are used in context.
Just because those words doesn't work for one group of people, they might be acceptable to another.

[smalltownguy]

More bloody homophobic communists wanting waive their own freedom of speech by censorship... disgusting

:iagree:

[josehip]

No. We're not policing words which are used in context.
Just because those words doesn't work for one group of people, they might be acceptable to another.

yeah, like nigger of faggot.

[KelliBlueEyes]

No. We're not policing words which are used in context.
Just because those words doesn't work for one group of people, they might be acceptable to another.

Interesting that slurs against trans people are so common on a forum who’s purpose is essentially the sexual objectification of trans people.

I’d probably be in trouble if i started a thread entitled “sex with [insert slur here]”

I understand that it’s too inconvenient to revise any PAST posts on the site, but in the interest of progress it would be helpful if slurs were blacklisted from becoming new thread topics. I believe vbulletin either supports the ability to blacklist various words or phrases from thread topics or a plug-in is available

[josehip]

Interesting that slurs against trans people are so common on a forum who’s purpose is essentially the sexual objectification of trans people.

I’d probably be in trouble if i started a thread entitled “sex with [insert slur here]”

I understand that it’s too inconvenient to revise any PAST posts on the site, but in the interest of progress it would be helpful if slurs were blacklisted from becoming new thread topics. I believe vbulletin either supports the ability to blacklist various words or phrases from thread topics or a plug-in is available

Bravo!

[Lester316]

Interesting that slurs against trans people are so common on a forum who’s purpose is essentially the sexual objectification of trans people.

I’d probably be in trouble if i started a thread entitled “sex with [insert slur here]”

I understand that it’s too inconvenient to revise any PAST posts on the site, but in the interest of progress it would be helpful if slurs were blacklisted from becoming new thread topics. I believe vbulletin either supports the ability to blacklist various words or phrases from thread topics or a plug-in is available

Assuming this is correct (I'm not doubting you I just have no idea how vbulletin works) surely it would at least be possible to restrict the future use of the same words that are being removed during Grooby site renaming? Expectations would have to be realistic of course so not before the specific sites have all been renamed - they want to be able to promote their product on a forum they own of course.

I understand Steven saying what is unacceptable to one might be acceptable to another but certain terms transcend that surely? Once it becomes clear a term is offensive to a particular group of people; so much so that it has become business savvy to remove it from a brand name - and the main goal in changing should be about respecting who people are not just protecting a brand I'd hope - it's further use should be restricted or at least warnings or bans issued after it's repeated use.

As a point of comparison the N word isn't seen as acceptable and in a lot of countries its use would be seen as a hate crime so it isn't tolerated; the general rule of thumb springs to mind that if we wouldn't/shouldn't say a certain thing to someone's face in public we shouldn't get away with typing it online in a forum. There is an argument that some cultures reclaim derogatory words as a form of self-empowerment of course but does that apply here? My sense is individuals from this community aren't using certain words in that way as those who transition (correct me if I have this wrong) identify as a specific gender and try to avoid terms that have stigmas attached.

[Wendy Summers]

I know my position isn't shared by most other folks who are activists, but... whatever.

I'm of the mind that banning those words does little good. To the uninformed, these are the terms they search for when looking for this type of content. Therefore we're faced with 2 options: include it and be the website they find when searching or don't and let more distasteful websites get the hits.

Hung Angels has long been a place where education can and does occur. (Hey kids -- remember when this was added to the sidebar? http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/friends2/trans_ally.jpg) Let the terms exist here, but make sure that we, as the community, gently explain the more respectful way to have these conversations.

Banning the language doesn't change behavior. Non-judgmental education does.

/offsoapbox