How much money to create new TS site?

[ATG]

Anybody having an idea how much money do you need to create a new website and content for like 1 year?

I am talking about the quality of transsensual.com, pinkotgirls.com, tsseduction.com.

My dream is to one day create a TS site with the quality of strapondreamer.com or metartx, but with more creativity.
A site where the users can actively take part in the creation...

[whamm]

Anybody having an idea how much money do you need to create a new website and content for like 1 year?

I am talking about the quality of transsensual.com, pinkotgirls.com, tsseduction.com.

My dream is to one day create a TS site with the quality of strapondreamer.com or metartx, but with more creativity.
A site where the users can actively take part in the creation...

First, know that prices vary widely. Maybe you can find a developer that specializes in porn and can get you up and running for cheap. IIWY, this would be my first avenue of exploration.

I develop custom sites and generally won't take on a project that bills less than $10K. This doesn't include graphic design, which is typically handled by another party. That's probably another $3K or more.

Hosting is another cost. My highest traffic site does about 10K uniques per day. It costs me about $100/month. Also, despite the high traffic, my bandwidth is comparatively modest. It's not a graphically intense site. A subscription based porn site would need far fewer than 10K uniques per day to make plenty of scratch.

Also, I think that a lot of hosting companies aren't interested in hosting porn, so your costs might not reflect the rest of the market. You should do a lookup on some of your favorite porn sites and see who hosts them.

Content? I have no idea. No idea. Sorry. I'm very curious to know, though.

Driving traffic to your site is not easy and is crucial to success. So is converting the traffic once you have it on your site. There are tools to help (Google Analytics, Webmaster Tools, etc.).

If you're not technically savvy and aren't willing to go out and do the research and learn enough to do it on your own it's going to cost you a ton of money. As a developer with high traffic, successful sites, I have had many people ask me to develop a site on spec. They have the brilliant idea and I have the skill set. But the brilliant idea isn't really worth much. It's the work to develop the site and its content, but then just as importantly the sustained effort over time to make that site successful.

If you're passionate about your project and not afraid to fail and try again and again you can do this.

[ATG]

Thanks for your elaborate response. This helps me a lot, you are an angel!

I am actually a co-founder of a tech startup, I am used to failing, and I have the technical knowhow, and the technical connections should also be no problem.

I rather build a new TS site which values transgender and is creative and of quality. I don't need to be the top site, but I want to show my view on it.

I think Transsensual comes closest to what I am aiming for, but it is not well shot and not very creative and not very much variation in actors.

I often gave TS sites feedback from a photography and filmography standpoint what they should improve. But directors rarely accept improvements.
So I wanna do it for myself.

I rather build this site, than buy a Porsche.

I think all your issues, which are very valuable and are like a checklist for me, are solvable.

The only problem I am not sure about.
I am currently based in Germany.

Don't know if there are enough beautiful women around here or in Europe. I have no idea.
I am not in the scene.

[MrFanti]

What is your 'starting' point?
For example, for my photography, I have probably close to $10k in gear and lighting.....

[GroobySteven]

I rather build this site, than buy a Porsche.


You'd need a little more more money than what a Porsche costs to create a viable TS website in 2017, from scratch and with no connections, or affiliations.

[GroobySteven]

Also if you really wanted to do this - I can save you a lot of money before you even start by hiring me as a consultant and I'll tell you exactly how much it will cost you, where your failure points are and where your horizon will be for a return.

[Nikka]

Porsche cars won´t have meltdowns

[MrFanti]

Porsche cars won´t have meltdowns

LoL let's see....I'm trying to remember the issues that my bosses' Boxster has had....:)

[whamm]

Thanks for your elaborate response. This helps me a lot, you are an angel!

I am actually a co-founder of a tech startup, I am used to failing, and I have the technical knowhow, and the technical connections should also be no problem.

I rather build a new TS site which values transgender and is creative and of quality. I don't need to be the top site, but I want to show my view on it.

I think Transsensual comes closest to what I am aiming for, but it is not well shot and not very creative and not very much variation in actors.

I often gave TS sites feedback from a photography and filmography standpoint what they should improve. But directors rarely accept improvements.
So I wanna do it for myself.

I rather build this site, than buy a Porsche.

I think all your issues, which are very valuable and are like a checklist for me, are solvable.

The only problem I am not sure about.
I am currently based in Germany.

Don't know if there are enough beautiful women around here or in Europe. I have no idea.
I am not in the scene.

I get what you're saying. I can't tell you how many times I watch porn and think to myself, WTF is the videographer/photographer thinking? I also think, that when it comes down to production, there's a pretty steep learning curve. I'm sure anyone with decent tech skills could get there, but it takes time and effort.

Why are so many porn videos so poorly edited? Because quality editing takes time and effort, meaning money. Does the added expense result in monetary returns? I have no idea. But I do like what I think is your direction, a niche trans-female porn site with high production value media.

I've many times thought that it would be a great thing to develop a model/performer owned porn business. Well, not just model/performer, but also producer and developer owned. Of course, saying it and doing it are two completely different things.

I hope you go forward with this and if you do, please keep us in the loop. Thanks!

[whamm]

You'd need a little more more money than what a Porsche costs to create a viable TS website in 2017, from scratch and with no connections, or affiliations.

Hey Steven, are there any boilerplate type porn sites?

I've worked in the real estate website niche for over two decades and there are many companies that sell sites with a lot of standard functionality for very reasonable prices ($1000 and for instance). These sites integrate dynamic content and listings from local MLSes, etc. My point is that these are deep sites, with tons of functionality and integration of remote content, social media, user accounts, etc., etc.

If there isn't anything like this in the porn industry I'd be pretty surprised. I'd also know what my next big project is.

[ATG]

Guys you are all awesome.

Thanks for your very great feedback.

I appreciate it very very much.

Actually, creating a TS site is my dream for 20 years. I have seen it all.

I appreciate diversity in people, any kind of. I value every person on this planet.
Maybe that's why I love TS.

And I love feminism. Women and Men valued, no equal rights necessary anymore.

The website would not be only about porn, but appreciating and having highest art standard (like fashion wear, makeup,...)

I tell you what.

Money is not the problem.

If I develop a decent business plan, I can attract the money.

And I can't do this alone, I need strong partners,
thanks Steven.

I can't promise when I will do this,
but I will come back to you.

Best

[holzz]

what kind of site? Porn?

if so, then not much in start-up costs.

Just get a domain name (even go-daddy permit porn sites), and then a hosting package. both are relatively inexpensive.

then find a niche.

and subscribe to some affiliate networks. maybe even if you know a porn star and/or studio, get them to sponsor you or you share revenues for her or their vids.

[skirtrustler]

Also if you really wanted to do this - I can save you a lot of money before you even start by hiring me as a consultant and I'll tell you exactly how much it will cost you, where your failure points are and where your horizon will be for a return.

Yep. Fastest way to make money out of the business:be a consultant. The days of the 100k per month website operating out of a back bedroom or small industrial unit are almost totally in the past.

Your best up front investment is to get this book (or a similar one - but this one is excellent) and read it cover to cover about ten times.

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Then put together your marketing plan. In doing so you will see that unless you have the resources and investors to produce the amount of new content that kink.com / pink visual / manwin etc manage to put out you are not going to have a serious and sustainable place in the market.

... and subscribe to a number of industry newsletters like Ynot.com .. you will get the opportunity to go to lots of tax deductible conventions in places like Las Vegas.

Other than that the only other alternative for a loss making trickle of income is to produce high quality trans specialised content, at the rate of roughly one a week, and kick off with a minimum of around 20 videos, but most trans niches all the way through to wedding dresses have been tackled, and much of it is available free via the usual suspects. Hence the need to find new stars and keep the site fresh: as your consultant will advise you.

You then have to build, host and operate the site, maintain its legality under various laws and keep it VISA and MasterCard friendly (...e.g. no ‘discoloured faces’ from face sitting .. LOL). If you are not tech literate then you need a number of separate skilled contractors / employees to do that.

Have fun.

[GroobySteven]

what kind of site? Porn?

if so, then not much in start-up costs.

Just get a domain name (even go-daddy permit porn sites), and then a hosting package. both are relatively inexpensive.

then find a niche.

and subscribe to some affiliate networks. maybe even if you know a porn star and/or studio, get them to sponsor you or you share revenues for her or their vids.


The affiliate model is all but dead, unless you have traffic.
How would you propose to get traffic to your website?

[skirtrustler]

The affiliate model is all but dead, unless you have traffic.
How would you propose to get traffic to your website?

For general amusement ... I went to a conference a couple of years ago where someone was talking about how dead the market was for selling adult oriented domain names. He had sold one domain name in the last year.

Take a look and cry and/or laugh. https://wellhung.co.uk

:wiggle:

[GroobySteven]

For general amusement ... I went to a conference a couple of years ago where someone was talking about how dead the market was for selling adult oriented domain names. He had sold one domain name in the last year.

Take a look and cry and/or laugh. https://wellhung.co.uk

:wiggle:

That's awesome. Kudos to the guy for knowing exactly what that domain should have been used for.

[Laphroaig]

The affiliate model is all but dead, unless you have traffic.
How would you propose to get traffic to your website?

Should already have his own porn site by now, earning "thousands per month", wonder how he's getting on with these goals...

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?101450-2017-Goals&p=1739779&viewfull=1#post1739779