'SHEMALE' What Do 'You' Think About the Term "?

[peggygee]

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Ladies ............................................. Gentlemen

What Do 'You' Think About the Term 'SHEMALE"?

How about 'chicks with dicks'?

What about 'that something extra' deal?

Language evolves, words have new meanings.

The 'N' word can be good or bad, depending on who's saying it.

In a world, where 'bad' means 'good', what does 'shemale' mean to you?

[dan_drade]

I don't use the word myself. I prefer to use transexual, transgendered, girl, lady, woman, tg, ts etc... The word shemale just seems a little rude, but thats just my personal opinion

[scorpion]

The word isnt important to mee.. i see nothing wrong whit shemale...ordinary wee have male and female so why not shemale?
My latest relation was whit a swedich tranny and once I ask her if I could link her homesite to this forum.
She gone forest crasy totaly super mega aggresive and told mee that this was a shemale site and she was not...
Oki wee ride out this storm but our relation ended any way.
I know the diffrent about cd-tv and ts... but I cant see any wrong whit shemale...i even think its sounds better than tranny

[GroobySteven]

The word is a porn word and in the context of porn it's just about ok. We need to use it to advertise and promote but I prefer the word tgirl.
seanchai

[scorpion]

Why should shemale bee a pornword???when male and female are ordonairy? Why dont let it bee the 3rd sex.
Trannyy annd tgirl is oki four mee.
But belivee it or not our trannys gonna aged as us others and who wanna bee called a t.girl in tha age of 70?

[GroobySteven]

Why should shemale bee a pornword???when male and female are ordonairy? Why dont let it bee the 3rd sex.
Trannyy annd tgirl is oki four mee.
But belivee it or not our trannys gonna aged as us others and who wanna bee called a t.girl in tha age of 70?

It's a word created by the porn industry. It's a porn word and has those connoctations with it.
seanchai

[Realgirls4me]

It's degrading imo. I picked number 5.

[Ecstatic]

I agree with seanchai. When a girl working in the porn biz uses the term, she takes possession of it: see Vicki Richter for a prime example. But outside porn, I think it's demeaning because of the porn associations. "Chicks with dicks" is even more demeaning. Tgirl is much more acceptable, particularly for a pre-op or non-op girl, imho.

[yodajazz]

I once wrote to a site which bashing men as 'tranny chasers'. I used the term 'tgirl' in my correspondence. The person took offense, saying that they were 'trans women'. She seemed very uptight to me. However, I think of the term tgirl as more for casual and recreationl type of activities, like boy is used for boys night out. But a site like Lynn Conway's would certainly refer to "Successful Trans Women" because of their success in many fields, such as medicine, business, and science.

[pinklace]

I stopped using it, it seems disrespectful. Most of the escorts I've been with have skirted all the way around it by saying something like "Girls like me."

So how long have you liked girls like me?

I chose #4

[TooProud2BeGay]

Depends on the context, but I would rather not use it at all. I don't want to offend anyone here, so I've been using T-girls because it seems like the safest term.

yodajazz's post made me rethink that. Maybe I should start using "TW" instead.

[BeardedOne]

Odd, that I voted, but have not yet responded to this thread.

I've nver been comfortable with the term "shemale", even within the porn connotations (Which is where it first surfaced and seems most prevelant). I say T-girl or 'gurl' a lot, just for definition. It seems to work.

I am partners in a small dotcom that has been exploring adult entertainment as one of its ongoing projects (Click the link below, please) and in early revelations that I was interested in T's the partner I interact with most used to use 'shemale' in the conversation. Though I don't recall any kind of pressure on my part, he seems to have clued into my distaste of the term, as 'shemale' no longer appears in any of the IM/PM/correspondence from him unless he is referring to a vid title.

So, you see, we =can= make a difference. :D

[scorpion]

I try to respect it. even if i think "personaly" shemale sounds better than tranny. transexuall is okey.. but how they say in Sweden "Transa" sounds auful four mee.

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[tonkatoy]

So I guess 'sluts with nuts' is right out.


Personally I prefer term transsexual or ts. Shemale seems demeaning just because of the baggage associated with it. My gf prefers transsexual, or just woman. If I am talking about her gender status to somebody I say she is ts, most of the time the only people I am talking about this with already know terminology. Tgirl isn't a term I use either, manly because of the girl connotation, it is ok in some cases, likewise I am not a real fan of transwoman either.

[freak]

this reminds me of- do you prefer to be called Negro, black, colored, African American. Do you prefer to be called Transsexual, tranny, shemale, ladyboy, T-girl, chicks with dicks, gender benders or special ladies

[peggygee]

this reminds me of- do you prefer to be called Negro, black, colored, African American. Do you prefer to be called Transsexual, tranny, shemale, ladyboy, T-girl, chicks with dicks, gender benders or special ladies

I am a woman.

I am a Black woman.

I am a post operative transwoman.

But I am not now, never have been, nor ever will be a shemale.

[wendy48088]

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[TsVanessa69]

when a guy refers to me as a shemale, I see him as a trick, client, pago, whatever. Real men refer to me as what I am, a woman, a transgendered woman, but a woman.

[Phat]

it's demeaning and degrading, naturally used in the porn industry, although I don't think that makes it any less offensive in that context.

[whatsupwithat]

I once wrote to a site which bashing men as 'tranny chasers'. I used the term 'tgirl' in my correspondence. The person took offense, saying that they were 'trans women'. She seemed very uptight to me. However, I think of the term tgirl as more for casual and recreationl type of activities, like boy is used for boys night out. But a site like Lynn Conway's would certainly refer to "Successful Trans Women" because of their success in many fields, such as medicine, business, and science.

The whole PC, uptight thing has really run its course. Who the hell is one "trans womAn" to take it upon herself to say what everyone else is. And she has no fucking problem calling men who are attracted to "trans women, tgirls, etc", tranny chasers? What a condescending, hypocritical moron.

Okay, I feel better now.

Oh, and shemale is derogatory when used outside the context of porn, heck, I even find it a turnoff when used inside the context of porn. But that's me...

[a994]

Knowing what I know now, I would never use the term. I'd just call her a woman, lady, or girl.

[MrsKellyPierce]

PORN PORN PORN PORN

[tenduckmountain]

shemale is just a word. every derogatory word is just a word. words only have power if people react to them. i am a puerto rican male and if someone calls me a spic, i don't pay it attention. even if deep down it makes my blood boil. why? because as soon as i pay attention to the word it now has power. if you just mock the word or resist giving it power, its now only a word. i don't think jumping down anyone's throat about being called that is productive. simply stating what you prefer to be referred to as is the best approach. shemale might say porn to you, but so many people use it innocently because its so easy to find that word. if you google "shemale forum" HA is the third result. if you google "transwoman forum" it doesn't show up. weird, eh?

[Dkg]

As you can tell I have no problem with the word, although when addressing or speaking about someone in particular I wouldn't use it or even think of using it.

[tsmandy]

I had never heard the term until it was used to put me down. I was walking from Asheville to West Asheville several years back when a man with a thick mountain accent told his kid to ignore me, cuz I was just "one of them Sheeemales". I had never heard the term before and coming out of his mouth it was absolutely repulsive.

Besides, how is a she-male phonetically different than female? The word makes no sense and in my opinion is damaging. That said, I also think its kind of funny, and occasionally will use it within the context of a joke.

Word of advice guys, if you wanna impress a trans-woman, drop it from your vocab. Pronto. Also, don't tell us we are being too sensitive, have some fucking respect.

[MonsieurValentine]

I had never heard the term until it was used to put me down. I was walking from Asheville to West Asheville several years back when a man with a thick mountain accent told his kid to ignore me, cuz I was just "one of them Sheeemales". I had never heard the term before and coming out of his mouth it was absolutely repulsive.

Besides, how is a she-male phonetically different than female? The word makes no sense and in my opinion is damaging. That said, I also think its kind of funny, and occasionally will use it within the context of a joke.

Word of advice guys, if you wanna impress a trans-woman, drop it from your vocab. Pronto. Also, don't tell us we are being too sensitive, have some fucking respect.

well, aren't you cute...

[Dkg]

I had never heard the term until it was used to put me down. I was walking from Asheville to West Asheville several years back when a man with a thick mountain accent told his kid to ignore me, cuz I was just "one of them Sheeemales". I had never heard the term before and coming out of his mouth it was absolutely repulsive.

Besides, how is a she-male phonetically different than female? The word makes no sense and in my opinion is damaging. That said, I also think its kind of funny, and occasionally will use it within the context of a joke.

Word of advice guys, if you wanna impress a trans-woman, drop it from your vocab. Pronto. Also, don't tell us we are being too sensitive, have some fucking respect.

Drop it from my vocab? Why? There are tons of offensive words I know (a few I use) that I don't outright use to disrespect or hurt others. "Bitch" can be an extremely offensive word to women but I hardly see men dropping it from their vocab, even if they rarely use it. btw, no offense at all. I would never refer to anyone here as such. esp not a respectable cutie such as yourself.

[Vala_TS]

Besides, how is a she-male phonetically different than female?

Because female is a term for a gender whereas shemale refers to transexuals as feminine males which is practically the ultimate disrespect.

Vala,

[AllanahStarrNYC]

If I had to do it over over again, I would have not have named my site shemaleexotica- Actually, it went through many incarnations, but at the time in 2000- it seemed like a good marketing too and catchy name.

It's really just a porn thing- and I never use the term. To me it's only a fantasy term.

I personally do not like to be called a shemale, tranny, tgirl, or anything else. If someone is speaking of my gender, I just like transsexual woman.

I am however not offended by any of the above.

[stillies77]

wow this is actually a really really good question and a good topic...i always wondered the same thing.

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Peggygee,

On practically every 3rd or 4rth box of porn, there's the term "shemale".

Obviously, some of the popular websites also cater to the term "shemale".


As it is, the term is obviously used in a sort of synonymous way when describing TS women, and the term is quite popular, at least in the Adult Entertainment industry.

That, being what it is, in respect to the porn and such, How does the term make you personally feel?




(P.S.) Please don't use crazy words......I'm drinking, and besides that, I'm not THAT smart. lol

[justatransgirl]

Resurrected thread but what the heck... my opinion,

SheMale, LadyBoy, Tranny, C with D, etc., are all marketing terms.

When used as direct reference to an induvidual they become demeaning IMHO, unless on certain occasions when used between transgendered people.

Similar to the "N" word in the ghetto. A shemale can call another shemale a shemale - but YOU can't.

Most transgendered women prefer to be referred to as TS, transsexual, t-girl, trans woman, etc.

One is polite the other crude. Got it?

Hugs,
TS Jamie - the "BoyGirl..." :-)

[whatsupwithat]

Demeaning.

[Vala_TS]

I absolutely, totally hate the term. As I believe I have stated before. And I find that it turns up more porn results than "tranny" does.

Vala,

[ARMANIXXX]

Resurrected thread but what the heck... my opinion,

SheMale, LadyBoy, Tranny, C with D, etc., are all marketing terms.

When used as direct reference to an induvidual they become demeaning IMHO, unless on certain occasions when used between transgendered people.

Similar to the "N" word in the ghetto. A shemale can call another shemale a shemale - but YOU can't.

Most transgendered women prefer to be referred to as TS, transsexual, t-girl, trans woman, etc.

One is polite the other crude. Got it?

Hugs,
TS Jamie - the "BoyGirl..." :-)


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While I do hear and largly understand what you are saying, I think.

I thought I'd give caution and suggest pause with the idea that the "N" word, as you called it, being equivalent and therefore indistinguishable from the term "shemale".

One of those terms is demeaning and condescending (except in porn apparently.....but we'll save that), while the other is sordid and some have even argued, the worst "insult word" in the English language.


If there's any doubt or question as to why this is so, I will merely submit these exhibits to illustrate and punctuate this point.

[TJ347]

ARMANIXXX, you really went too far with that...

[ARMANIXXX]

ARMANIXXX, you really went too far with that...



Why's that?

[justatransgirl]

Sweetie - nowhere did I say shemale was "indistinguishable" from another racist term.

I said both are occasionally used by members of the respective communities when addressing people they know in various contexts but is it inappropriate for outsiders to use them.

Just as I feel it's inappropriate for a TS to call a gentleman who likes transsexuals a "trannie-chaser" while in his presence. But it is a term which is occasionally used in private discussion BETWEEN TS's.

I'm not going to get into a bunch of racist bullshit here - especially since I'm about to release a new video where I perform with a TS of African American heritage and had a damm good time doing it, and so did she!

So pleeeeeze...

And I don't have any photos of the 20 or 30 TRANSGENDERED people who are murdered each and every year or I'd post those for you to enjoy. Although there's some on the internet of the "gay" boys who were hanged in Iran last year if you care.

Hugs,
TS Jamie

[TJ347]

ARMANIXXX, you really went too far with that...



Why's that?

Because you could've just stated that they were different things and left it at that. In this case, trotting out these pics was completely unnecessary, in that the issue being discussed did not require a trip into the darkest parts of American history for you to support your position.

That, and because pics like this change my mood for the worse each and everytime I see them. And I'm sure I'm not the only one that's true of.

[scroller]

EDIT: Wrong place in the thread for this. Echh.

[ARMANIXXX]

ARMANIXXX, you really went too far with that...



Why's that?

Because you could've just stated that they were different things and left it at that. In this case, trotting out these pics was completely unnecessary, in that the issue being discussed did not require a trip into the darkest parts of American history for you to support your position.

That, and because pics like this change my mood for the worse each and everytime I see them. And I'm sure I'm not the only one that's true of.

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Now that I've had time to revisit the last post I made in this topic,



















































I think just 1 pic would have sufficed :wink:

[TJ347]

I have yet to see the topic here that necessitates a single picture like the ones you posted be brought into the equation, but that's neither here nor there at this point.

In three days, when the visuals of those pics finally fade from my mind, I'll be perfectly fine. Thanks Armanixxx, for the sweet dreams! :roll:

[werwt22]

Only way I could see a TS taking offense is if they break down the word shemale...she male. Its like just saying she's a man and if they consider themselves women then I can see why they dont like the term. But I think now the word is used generically like seanchai said. Just a porno term and is commonly used amongst everyone here in a non disrespectful way.

[peggygee]

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[Legspreader]

Shemale is not disrespectful that's what the girls are. A guy with a dick is a male. A girl with a pussy and two breasts is female. And a chick with a dick and two breasts is a shemale, and I like 'em!

[peggygee]

Shemale is not disrespectful that's what the girls are. A guy with a dick is a male. A girl with a pussy and two breasts is female. And a chick with a dick and two breasts is a shemale, and I like 'em!

Two questions:

1. Did you get a chance to view other peoples reponses, and get a chance
to see that you are in the minority with your opinion on the term.

2. Also out of curiousity, where would post op transwomen fit in with your
definitions?

[tstv_lover]

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It's not a term I use. The label has sexual connotations and can be very demeaning.

I call a particular girl by her name.

If I'm talking about a group of transsexual girls then I use the terms "girls", "ladies" or "transsexual girls".

If I'm going out for a beer with some guys them I'm going for a beer with the guys not the "hemales".

As Seanchi stated in an early post - "Shemale" is a term predominantly used in the porn industry. None of the transsexual girls I know are active in the porn industry.

Don't see that post-op or pre-op make any difference. If a girl is transsexual then that's what she is.