where is Raphaella Ferrari ?

[dickcurless]

after 3 shoots for TGirl playground, It seems that she disappeared, nevertheless it is really the top class Tgirl, and a really good actress , she lives and escort in Italia but her site don't give any informations,

i don't understand why the studios don't shoot more videos with her , but it's maybe her choice, any info ?,

[xuto]

She is PHENOMENAL ❤❤❤ Would love to meet her

[filghy2]

It's been a few months since her last scene came out, but I notice that Evil Angel have not been putting out as many new TS movies as they used to. The fact that she's based in Europe, which would entail additional costs for US studios, could also be a factor. I've noticed that European Tgirls seem to be under-represented in TS porn.

[drkingstunt]

It's been a few months since her last scene came out, but I notice that Evil Angel have not been putting out as many new TS movies as they used to. The fact that she's based in Europe, which would entail additional costs for US studios, could also be a factor. I've noticed that European Tgirls seem to be under-represented in TS porn.

Because europe has a lot of countries, and people all over the place. You need passports, visas, licenses and a whole lot of other stuff to be able to shoot with models in different countries. Which is why the porn industry does so well in the states. Crossing state boarders is as easy as driving down the street. Not the same in europe.

[gifabtop]

Because europe has a lot of countries, and people all over the place. You need passports, visas, licenses and a whole lot of other stuff to be able to shoot with models in different countries. Which is why the porn industry does so well in the states. Crossing state boarders is as easy as driving down the street. Not the same in europe.

Ever heard of schengen area ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area
I'm german and i can travel to France, Italy, Poland, Netherland, Austria, Spain, Portugal, etc... without difficulties.

[filghy2]

Because europe has a lot of countries, and people all over the place. You need passports, visas, licenses and a whole lot of other stuff to be able to shoot with models in different countries. Which is why the porn industry does so well in the states. Crossing state boarders is as easy as driving down the street. Not the same in europe.

I hope you haven't been putting off travelling to Europe for this reason, as your info is at least 20 years out of date! I was referring to costs of travelling between Europe and the USA, given the porn industry is concentrated in the US.

[dickcurless]

no more news or info about her ??? her site is not update , does she still escorting in Italia ??

[christianxxx]

TS Playground utilizes a technique where they overpay a brand new model by 3-4-5 times the standard rate. So then after TS Playground films them, the model asks for that same price from everyone else, who of course refuse to pay it. Thus the model never films again.

[filghy2]

TS Playground utilizes a technique where they overpay a brand new model by 3-4-5 times the standard rate. So then after TS Playground films them, the model asks for that same price from everyone else, who of course refuse to pay it. Thus the model never films again.

It sounds like you are miffed that they are not playing by the club rules. Could it be that girls like Raphaella don't want to shoot for the standard rate because they can make more from escorting?

Jay Sin and Evil Angel have been around for a long time and I assume they are not in the business to give away money. It must be their judgement that paying top dollar to get the best talent pays off.

[christianxxx]

no dummy - i have worked for Jay Sin since 2002 - we are friends. i could care less about Raphaella Ferrari, as I don't live in Brazil or Italy, nor do I film there. I simply stated that was their technique, anything else by you is simply your fucking nonsense reading into it with bias.

[filghy2]

no dummy - i have worked for Jay Sin since 2002 - we are friends. i could care less about Raphaella Ferrari, as I don't live in Brazil or Italy, nor do I film there. I simply stated that was their technique, anything else by you is simply your fucking nonsense reading into it with bias.

Your previous post used the word "overpay", which in normal usage would imply that paying these rates did not make commercial sense. You also clearly implied that these girls are being irrationally stubborn in continuing to demand these rates.

I used Raphaella's name because this thread is about her, and you were clearly suggesting that your explanation was why she wasn't shooting more videos. Whether you have any interest in her is irrelevant. Whether you are friends with Jay Sin is also irrelevant.

I have noticed previously that you are often gratuitously rude to people on this forum. Given they represent your current and potential customer base that does not sound like a good business strategy. Which one of us is the real dummy, I wonder.

[Telvin]

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[christianxxx]

Your previous post used the word "overpay", which in normal usage would imply that paying these rates did not make commercial sense. You also clearly implied that these girls are being irrationally stubborn in continuing to demand these rates.

I used Raphaella's name because this thread is about her, and you were clearly suggesting that your explanation was why she wasn't shooting more videos. Whether you have any interest in her is irrelevant. Whether you are friends with Jay Sin is also irrelevant.

I have noticed previously that you are often gratuitously rude to people on this forum. Given they represent your current and potential customer base that does not sound like a good business strategy. Which one of us is the real dummy, I wonder.

1. I used the word overpay because as I clearly stated in my initial post, there is a recognized industry standard rate. that's just a fact, any judgment about commercial sense is again YOUR BIAS
2. I didn't imply anything about any model being stubborn. I CLEARLY STATED that once a model makes 3x-4x the recognized industry standard rate, its just common sense that the model is going to ask for the same rate moving forward. Again, that's just a fact, any judgment about "irrational" as YOUR BIAS
3. Yes genius, clearly my post was in regards to a possible reason why Raphaella hasn't filmed any more scenes. I mean, that's just obvious chief.
4. I can be rude to you, because you aren't a member of my site and you are never going to join my site no matter what. I love all of my member's and I listen to what they say and answer feedback. Much more than the average site owner. So take your fucking nonsense and stuff it in a sack. :)

[bluebottle]

no dummy - i have worked for Jay Sin since 2002 - we are friends. i could care less about Raphaella Ferrari, as I don't live in Brazil or Italy, nor do I film there. I simply stated that was their technique, anything else by you is simply your fucking nonsense reading into it with bias.

That's strange, somewhere on a blog somewhere you said you were in Brazil shooting with a couple of girls whilst you were there..
That sort of contradicts your statement...

[christianxxx]

That's strange, somewhere on a blog somewhere you said you were in Brazil shooting with a couple of girls whilst you were there..
That sort of contradicts your statement...

yeah I was there working for Jay Sin. lol

[filghy2]

1. 'Overpaid' means paid too much by definition, so maybe you should be more careful about your choice of words. You could have clarified what you meant in a civil manner, but you chose instead to be rude and dismissive.
2. Your own words were "after TS Playground films them, the model asks for that same price from everyone else, who of course refuse to pay it. Thus the model never films again." What can that mean, other than a view that they've priced themselves out of the market?
3. Your own words were "i could care less about Raphaella Ferrari, as I don't live in Brazil or Italy, nor do I film there." I simply noted that this is irrelevant, as is your further response.
4. I've seen you use this argument before, but how can you be so confident? How could it be that you can match every one of your subscribers with a username on this forum? In any case, you seem to be forgetting that you also sell videos on Gamelink.
Fyi, I've never been a member of your site, but I have purchased quite a few of your videos. In order to help you calculate the potential cost of arrogance, I've counted up a total of 19 videos purchased, which at $10.95 each, comes to about $208.
I notice that TS Playground video downloads sell for $14.95 on Gamelink, but they have 6 scenes compared to your 4, so their price per scene is slightly lower. It's interesting that they can do this despite paying models 3-5 times more according to you.

You'll note that everything I've written is based on facts and your own words, with no cheap shot insults. Can you do the same, I wonder?

[christianxxx]

1. 'Overpaid' means paid too much by definition, so maybe you should be more careful about your choice of words. You could have clarified what you meant in a civil manner, but you chose instead to be rude and dismissive.
2. Your own words were "after TS Playground films them, the model asks for that same price from everyone else, who of course refuse to pay it. Thus the model never films again." What can that mean, other than a view that they've priced themselves out of the market?
3. Your own words were "i could care less about Raphaella Ferrari, as I don't live in Brazil or Italy, nor do I film there." I simply noted that this is irrelevant, as is your further response.
4. I've seen you use this argument before, but how can you be so confident? How could it be that you can match every one of your subscribers with a username on this forum? In any case, you seem to be forgetting that you also sell videos on Gamelink.
Fyi, I've never been a member of your site, but I have purchased quite a few of your videos. In order to help you calculate the potential cost of arrogance, I've counted up a total of 19 videos purchased, which at $10.95 each, comes to about $208.
I notice that TS Playground video downloads sell for $14.95 on Gamelink, but they have 6 scenes compared to your 4, so their price per scene is slightly lower. It's interesting that they can do this despite paying models 3-5 times more according to you.

You'll note that everything I've written is based on facts and your own words, with no cheap shot insults. Can you do the same, I wonder?

1. i mean exactly that - they are overpaid. paying someone 3x-4x the standard rate means they are overpaid. how can you not get this?
2. yes, that is EXACTLY what I mean. They have priced themselves out of the market. how can you not get this?
3. ok
4. TS Playground obviously makes a lot more than I do, as we have already noted on this thread. hence why I work for him.

anything else?

[filghy2]

No, I think I'll just declare victory and go home

[christianxxx]

No, I think I'll just declare victory and go home

ok good talk chief.

[ilove2swallow]

go ts playground!

[filghy2]

ok good talk chief.

A 5-2 thrashing, according to the popular vote. Either they find my arguments more convincing, or they just don't like you for some reason (maybe related to your rudeness policy).

Interestingly, for all of your dismissive bluster you have yet to provide a single explanation for why what I said in my original post (repeated below) was "fucking nonsense".

"It sounds like you are miffed that they are not playing by the club rules. Could it be that girls like Raphaella don't want to shoot for the standard rate because they can make more from escorting?
Jay Sin and Evil Angel have been around for a long time and I assume they are not in the business to give away money. It must be their judgement that paying top dollar to get the best talent pays off."

It's not even clear which of my points you take exception to. The first point was clearly meant to be facetious. The other points seem like common sense economic logic to me.

[DaphneCruz]

Christian said TS Playground uses a technique of over paying a brand new model, not that they over pay all the models. And that sometimes when these new models go shoot elsewhere and are only offered the standard rate, refuse and quit the business. His theory is sound. And he should know if he's worked for them. Whether or not this is in fact the case of why Raphaella is no longer shooting is irrelevant. He just posted a possible scenario.

You lost the argument because you didn't seem to get that.

[filghy2]

Christian said TS Playground uses a technique of over paying a brand new model, not that they over pay all the models. And that sometimes when these new models go shoot elsewhere and are only offered the standard rate, refuse and quit the business. His theory is sound. And he should know if he's worked for them.

If you must buy into a week-old argument between others in your second post, how about making sure you've read what they actually said? I never disputed that TS Playground may do this. I only suggested that it would only make sense for these models to refuse further shoots at a lower rate if they had another option that paid better (eg escorting). Also, he did not claim that this happens only 'sometimes' - he actually said they 'never' shoot elsewhere after TS Playground. I'm pretty sure that is not true.

In any case, it's not even clear that Raphaella fits the category of 'brand new model', as she had already shot several videos before TS Playground. https://www.pinkotgirls.com/trans-star/Raphaella-Ferrari.php

[DaphneCruz]

The fact that you keep referring to Raphaella goes to show you just dont get it. As if Christian was literally offering you an explanation for her specifically. lol

But just to let you know from people watching, you didnt give anybody a thrashing. In fact, we just see someone making a fool of themselves.

But keep thinking you won. I certainly dont want to keep going in circles explaining what Christian is talking about.

[filghy2]

I certainly dont want to keep going in circles explaining what Christian is talking about.

Do you have a direct channel into his mind, lol?

Only one other post from you 9 months ago and suddenly two on this thread - interesting.

[dickcurless]

any info about Raphaella ? she is in tour as escort in Greece but it seems she don't make movie anymore .....