Confused By My Sexuality

[T-S-Curious]

Hi there, first post here, but I've been "lurking" for some time now! If this topic has been done to death I apologise, and I also realise it's probably a common "trolling" post. However, I am sincere in what I say and could really do with some input. So, until this year I considered myself to be 100% Heterosexual, despite having been watching TS porn for a good few years! I have been going to (Female) Escorts since May 2014, love sex with Women, and won't be stopping anytime soon. But the odd thing is, for almost a year now, I rarely watch Hetero porn! I just love TS porn so much, maybe it's the taboo thing that turns me on?
So, about 3 or 4 months ago, I took the plunge and went to see a TS Escort. I enjoyed it very much, have not had the self recrimination I thought I might, and hope to see another sometime soon.
I have realised that as long as sex takes place amongst consenting Adults the labels (Gay, Bi, Hetero, etc) don't really mean much. But just out of curiosity, how/do you define yourself? I have no interest in "Men" as such, but love being with Women, watching Hetero porn, as well as TS porn, and the aforementioned time with a TS Escort.
Does this make me Bisexual? As I said, it doesn't really matter, but it's obviously something that's going through my head, and I'd like to hear what others with the same proclivities think.





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[tacocorpv2]

Personally it thinks that it's whatever you think it is and doesn't really matter as long as you're happy.

As for the bisexual thing.. that I would think is only when you'd have sex/ be romantic with guys as well as women.. well something like that.

[last_stop]

Yes you're right. This topic is :deadhorse.. but at least you were cordial about it

I don't define myself as anything. I've always been attracted to women and discovered my attraction to transgender women over a decade ago. Back then I was as conflicted and confused as you are currently. Presently as a mature and much wiser 31 y.o, IDGAF. I realize that to many people, we are considered homos (even some transgender women call us that). And I really couldn't care less.

The longer you're in this, the less you give a flying fuck about labels and other people's opinions. Cheers!

[T-S-Curious]

Thank you for your reply, agree with everything you said. The thing about only being Bi if you like Men was also said to me by the TS Escort, and a Female Escort (who is full on Bi) that I saw. I'm not really sure why I posted the question, as I have no regrets and am completely secure with my sexuality. I guess I just wanted to stop lurking and interact here.
I think the thing that's confusing me, is my heavy use of TS porn, but almost exclusive use of Female Escorts. Maybe it's a form of denial? On a side note, as far as the porn is concerned, I can't get over how amazing Chanel Santini is. Now for her, I could probably give up GG's!

[T-S-Curious]

last_stop, yes, I knew I was posting something that's been done to death. But as you rightly say, I am a little conflicted, and wanted to give my story for feedback. I'm not trying to antagonise or question others here, just want some input on my own situation. The crazy thing is, I'm 46 and only lost my Virginity 3 years ago (to an Escort). I've always been shy and of a slightly nervous disposition, but during the last 3 years have been with 14 Escorts (one of which being the TS).
So, my sex life is far from conventional, although I do refrain from using the word normal (what is "normal" etc).
I would probably have been with more TS, but find it much harder to find what I find attractive, in comparison to GG's. I've always used Adultwork for my encounters, perhaps it's not the best site for TS Escorts?

[Lester316]

I would suggest that considering you lost you virginity really late (compared to most people) and it was to an escort as opposed to a standard relationship that you are playing catch up basically. If you could focus less on escorts and more on building/finding a relationship with a GG or TS-girl you will get more out of things in the long run. Porn/escorts are all good if that's what people want but they are selling a complete fantasy for a brief period of time; to get something longer lasting, more intense and basically more real you might need to move away from what could become quite addictive. Overall it sounds to me as if you are attracted to girls and that TS porn/escorts is a way of chasing more and more elaborate fantasy. But hey I'm no expert on anything so if you're happy and can afford the current lifestyle you have fair play.

[T-S-Curious]

I would suggest that considering you lost you virginity really late (compared to most people) and it was to an escort as opposed to a standard relationship that you are playing catch up basically. If you could focus less on escorts and more on building/finding a relationship with a GG or TS-girl you will get more out of things in the long run. Porn/escorts are all good if that's what people want but they are selling a complete fantasy for a brief period of time; to get something longer lasting, more intense and basically more real you might need to move away from what could become quite addictive. Overall it sounds to me as if you are attracted to girls and that TS porn/escorts is a way of chasing more and more elaborate fantasy. But hey I'm no expert on anything so if you're happy and can afford the current lifestyle you have fair play.

Yes Lester, you are bang on point with your words. I have indeed been playing catch up, I'm definitely addicted to Escorts, and my kinks/desires have been getting more extreme (nothing harmful, I'm not the sort to hurt others, physically or mentally).
I think it's the taboo nature of fucking a TS that turns me on. I have Male friends that I know find many TS attractive, but would never go with one, as it's some kind of "gay confirmation" to them. This last 3 years has been very liberating to me, as time goes on I am not feeling the need for labels. Maybe that's contradicting the base of my thread title a little, but I had to start somewhere!

[Gillian]

Trying to label yourself is a fruitless and rather pointless task. You say labels don't mean much, so why bother?

I'm a tgirl but usually describe myself as bisexual if anyone asks. At the end of the day, I like what I like and I am what I am. Does anything else really matter?

[Lester316]

Have to agree, I've never tried to label myself in terms of sexuality either. I like what I like and attraction to me is so much more than what someone has inside of their underwear.

[Aticus100]

I have been an entirely heterosexual guy all my life until meeting a trans woman and commencing a fledgling relationship without realising her gender.
Before things went that far we had "that conversation " and by that time I didn't care.
I am still entirely attracted to femininity and have no interest in guys so consider myself straight but have no problem at all if others feel the need to label me as bi.

Perhaps it makes it easier for them to understand and as I don't see the labels of gay or bi as being in any way negative or detrimental it doesn't bother me in the slightest.

[T-S-Curious]

Aticus, your story sounds very interesting. I do not wish to attach detrimental connotation to words like "gay" or "bi", but unfortunately we live in a society that seems to do so. I guess that's why I'm struggling a little with my confliction. My "hobby" of visiting Escorts is very much a secret, but my interest in TS is way more covert. I would be mortified if my interest in TS got out to Family and Friends. Hopefully the people here understand that, I'm not trying to offend or upset anyone, but it's how society at large perceives things.

[Aticus100]

I fully appreciate your reservations when it comes to others knowing about your interest in an unusual (and misunderstood) group.
I used to share your reservations but I realised a simple truth.
No one actually cares what you do.

Think of the most salacious, outrageous piece of gossip you ever heard about someone you know and then ask yourself how much you actually care about it.
Sure you may have thought about it for a few minutes when you first heard it, maybe it amused or intrigued you for a few moments.
Perhaps you have thought about it since then for a few moments at a time but in reality, you don't care. And even if you do, the subject of the issue doesn't even know you thought about it let alone have they been affected by your interest or lack of it.
Well it cuts both ways. You consider others knowing your secret to be a terrible thought. Horrifying. The end of the world. And you are allowing your perception of their reaction to dictate how you live your life.
Fuck that. Your not hurting anyone so no one else actually give a flying fuck, at least not for more than a few moments so don't let that impact your decisions.
When your on your deathbed do you really want to look back and think "I could have had such a great time and done all that I wanted but I was too worried about what other people thought to do so"?

[holzz]

not this shit again....

sorry, OP, tha'ts NOT a dig at you.

it's just the same question emerges again and again...

doesn't a trans woman LOOK LIKE and act like a woman? then you're not gay.

if you know men don't do it for you, then you're not gay in any event.

i don't think receiving anal or like anal penetration is gay anyhow, there's no reason why it's inherently gay.

i hope sincerely i'm not being rude, it's just i've been seeing TS porn since 2001, long before probably most current porn stars were active, or evven transitioning for that matter. i just to think it made me gay, but then i know i find men disgusting sexually, and it's the feminine body of a trans woman tha gets me. whether she has a penis or not, i don't care.

this hottie is trans.

would you know if you saw her in the street, or in a club, or bar, or in school?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/bc/c9/b4/bcc9b496b6961b1f55dd417477afafac.jpg

the last i heard/knew, she was non-op too. so if you wanted to hit on her, and she told you that, would go from straight to gay instantly? considering she's pretty passable, then just accept you like women and womanly looks.

[T-S-Curious]

Aticus: I'm not allowing others to determine my actions, I do what makes me happy. However, I do keep certain things secret. I beg to differ on your comment that people are so blase as to not give a fuck, we (unfortunately) still live in a very judgemental society. However, if you can live your life and truly not worry what others think, more power to you, I really do envy a life free from the anxieties I suffer.
holzz: I understand your "not this shit again" comment, and am not offended. I actually thought I would get lambasted to a degree, and am pleasantly surprised that (thus far) I haven't been. The girl in the pic you posted is most certainly hot, and I would have no problem getting it on with her.

[sweetcream]

Trying to label yourself is a fruitless and rather pointless task. You say labels don't mean much, so why bother?

I'm a tgirl but usually describe myself as bisexual if anyone asks. At the end of the day, I like what I like and I am what I am. Does anything else really matter?excellant answer and i like you too

[Aticus100]

TS-Curious, my point being if people do care, it is not near as much as you imagine.
If they do, it is fleeting curiosity. We perceive our own importance as far greater than it is in the lives of most others while we accept that others outside of our inidiate family hold little or no real interest to us.
To worry about what other think is to pointlessly limit your own expression and desires.
I told my friends. They took the piss bit didn't care.
I told the 600 van drivers I work with. They don't care.
I took my OH to join the gym I have used for years a month ago with all the guys I train with. None of them care.
If people have issues or prejudices, it's incredibly unlikely they will be aired to you so why worry about it. I appreciate this is easy for me to say as I very comfortable with my new found lease of life but this was not always so and it's worth sharing how liberating it is to anyone still burdened with concern about how others will perceive them.

[gaysian71]

I personally think being attracted to trans women makes you a blatant homosexual.

[gaysian71]

I personally think being attracted to trans women makes you a blatant homosexual.

Ha haaaaaaa. I was just kidding. The fact of the matter is that most men who are attracted to trans women are also attracted to genetic women. There are a few exceptions of homosexual men being attracted to trans women. But it's pretty rare.

So, you can call yourself whatever you like. But as long as you are doing what feels right to you, it doesn't really matter what you call yourself, does it? I personally don't give a fuck what anyone calls me.

[Lester316]

I personally think being attracted to trans women makes you a blatant homosexual.

Personally I think your opinion is an insult to all trans-women. Nothing wrong with being homosexual of course but it literally means to be a man attracted to other men; I can't think of one trans-WOMAN who identifies as a man. I think that your comment makes you a blatant hypocrite for even bothering to join this forum.

[gaysian71]

Personally I think your opinion is an insult to all trans-women. Nothing wrong with being homosexual of course but it literally means to be a man attracted to other men; I can't think of one trans-WOMAN who identifies as a man. I think that your comment makes you a blatant hypocrite for even bothering to join this forum.

Lol, I guess you didn't see the rest.

[MiaMaffiaFan]

I started off having sex with women. One night in town I got drunk and caved in to a guy. We chatted outside and soon bundled ourselves in a cab back to his. We fooled around and had oral sex without penetration because I was worried about making a 'mess'. We hooked up the following weekend after a week of fucking myself with toys continuously. Since then, the only sex I have had with a woman was during bi threesomes with a couple. It turned out that I didn't know what sex was until I was penetrated. As it stands I have been in a relationship with a man for quite some time. We are both very much in touch with our feminine sides and I consider myself bisexual. I absolutely love sex and it really doesn't matter who its with, though I have a strong preference for men and TV/TS.

[wildvine]

I call myself "sesquisexual".

I like girls and i like t-girls. I'm not attracted to guys, so "bi" doesn't really fit.

"Sesqui-" means one and a half, and "one and a half sexual" sounds about right.

[Rcrxjlb]

Most folks would call you "bisexual".

Small-minded folks would call you "gay".

I think you are just a freaky mofo (like myself)...!

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[Ponyboy]

Hi T-S Curious. Nothing wrong with your post, but i wouldnt bother trying to define your sexuality. It may change several times over your life as you learn more about yourself. You may discover things about yourself that you never expected, or then again, what you are now, may be it. Who cares? as long as you enjoy yourself. I think we need to add another sexual category to the list that currently includes straight, bi, curious, gay, LGBT, - the new category is 'still exploring'.

[Casey_Casino]

Watch the video posted in this forum called "This is your brain on shemale porn", it's an interesting watch and may bring you some clarity.

[johnboy1970]

Gaysian71 (forgot link to origainal post) - How can I be a "blatent homosexual" ? Been married nearly 30 years in a loving and happy relationship with a couple of kids! I also like TS, and have since I was about 16. I don't label myself anything and wish others wouldn't either - you are what you are and who gives a damn what sexual preferences you have. Life's too short to worry about it.

[LovinThaTSLadiez]

Ok, to answer to OP, I consider myself bi. First of all, I dont get into labels, I like what I like. But I have no problem being labeled as a bisexual man. I'm attracted to feminity. Females, t-girls, femboys, etc. I like both vagina and cock, but I like cock a lot more. I enjoy sex with t-girls/femboys more because there are more options sexually. I am verse, so this appeals to me. I am not into anyone who is masculine. Not men or women. So even though 99.9% of gay men would not interest me, unless they are feminine and naturally girly looking, I still identify as bisexual.

My advice, don't get caught up in labels, my friend. Enjoy exploring your sexuality, but do it safely. Some people on this board are so worried about being thought of as gay. Who cares? Be comfortable with yourself. I believe a lot of the straight male population in the world would have a serious attraction to these beautiful t-girls and femboys. Embrace it!

[holzz]

i have a pretty simple rule of thumb.

i like trans women because they are women. i admit the cock turns me on, and bigger the better. but then i don't find men hot at all. i don't deem myself bi since i like boobs and curves. if one likes feminity, then it's not gay at all. it would be bi at least if a man liked genetic women, trans women, and men.

[LovinThaTSLadiez]

i have a pretty simple rule of thumb.

i like trans women because they are women. i admit the cock turns me on, and bigger the better. but then i don't find men hot at all. i don't deem myself bi since i like boobs and curves. if one likes feminity, then it's not gay at all. it would be bi at least if a man liked genetic women, trans women, and men.

If you like cock, at least in my humble opinion, you can't be 100% straight. I have no problem with how you identify, so please don't take me the wrong way. We are more or less discussing terminology here. If you saw a beautiful, absolutely feminine individual who still considers himself a male, would you not still be attracted? Like Ivan Rastreppin. Totally hot, but still goes by "he".

Either way, I'm not judging or taking issue with your own personal identification. I apologize if it came off that way.

[T-S-Curious]

Hi all. VERY late reply to my own thread, apologies for that. I have still only had the one TS experience, but am going to change that very soon. Currently trying to find out if Magic Candy has tour plans soon in the South West, as I'm just so amazed and turned on by her beauty. Since I last posted to this thread, I've had a couple more threesomes with generic girls I like spending time with. Seeing the way they interact and enjoy each others bodies has certainly resolved some of my discomforts. Sex is sex, as long as it's consensual and each party respect one another.
Thank you all for your input, it's why I posted originally, and by no means meant to be inflammatory or antagonise anyone. I think I'm at the point where I no longer question my desires, and feel no need to label my sexual wants or needs. However, given the fact that our "society" is still nowhere near as advanced as it's made out to be (by the very media that cause it's hypocrisy and repression!) I will continue to make my lifestyle choice one of covert operation.
It's nice to have a forum to talk about things though, and as said previously, I appreciate the replies and cordiality to my self doubts, that we all know will be asked my many others!

[mikelangelo1]

although i am attracted only to the woman figure and all my life until now i love women, the last 5 years i find sex with women a little boring and not so exciting.. only tgirls make me crazy on bed, cos i find the combination of a girly face and a girly body with a cock, irresistible! onthecontrary, i am not attracted to men at all.

[chupapau]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChYK2aE0znk

[T-S-Curious]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChYK2aE0znk

I don't wish to seem belligerent, but I don't think you've considered the lyrics to the song you've used to respond. There are many things that make some individuals out there happy, that are really bad. I also don't think that linking to inane (IMHO) music videos, is any response at all. If you have an articulate, intelligent response, I'll gladly listen. But to cut and paste a link is, to be quite blunt, lazy, at it's very best.

[chupapau]

I don't wish to seem belligerent, but I don't think you've considered the lyrics to the song you've used to respond. There are many things that make some individuals out there happy, that are really bad. I also don't think that linking to inane (IMHO) music videos, is any response at all. If you have an articulate, intelligent response, I'll gladly listen. But to cut and paste a link is, to be quite blunt, lazy, at it's very best.

You miss the point entirely. Be glad with what you have/get/want, even if that seems strange to others. So, you should be glad with any positive response, as was mine.

And if you don't get that, then you need to look for professional help, not bully people who's answer you don't like.

So step one : get your head out of your ass.

[Aticus100]

“and as said previously, I appreciate the replies and cordiality”


I also don't think that linking to inane (IMHO) music videos, is any response at all. If you have an articulate, intelligent response, I'll gladly listen. But to cut and paste a link is, to be quite blunt, lazy, at it's very best.

Fucking hell! So you appreciate all the replies but only as long as you do t consider them inane and lazy!

It’s a forum. Someone posted a lighthearted response by way of a song title, chill out a little.

[T-S-Curious]

Chupapau, the intended statement I got, but read the first two lines of those lyrics. Perhaps they are missing something along the lines of "as long as you do no harm to others"? Which is why I thought putting things into your own words would have been a little more eloquent? I'll admit my response could have been less bluntly worded, but I wouldn't call it bullying. That song and it's lyrics truly are inane, and I guess my problem is with how it's so poorly worded and constructed.
Aticus, you ask me to chill out, but answer with profanity? Wow.

[Aticus100]

My level of profanity reflects my level of surprise that someone who went to such lengths in previous posts to be courteous , polite and appreciative for responses to their post should then be quite so dismissive of a respondents contribution.

I’m pleased that my level of surprise had the desired effect.

You can’t seriously expect song lyrics to include caviats just in case you manage to interpret “If it makes you happy, it can’t be that bad” as some kind of sugestion to take part in offensive or destructive behaviour just because it makes you happy, can you?

I mean, fucking hell.

p.s. I won’t expect you to interpret this use of profanity in the light hearted way in which it was intended as you already struggled with the lyrics of a Cheryl Crow song

p.p.s. The comment above is intended lightheartedly too, I felt it was important to point this out.