Time wasting

[jacqui_jones]

Hi boys

I would like your honest and brutal opinion.

I am an escort based in merseyside and I pride myself on a all round high class/high quality service. My apartment is smart, clean and tidy and when a client visits me, I offer a drink, shower and a massage.

I have a cisgender female friend who works as an escort also and she is on a site similar to HA and shes informed me that there is a very large articale on that site about "timewasting". Offering a shower, drink and a massage is being classed as timewasting. They have slated a lot of girls on this other site for doing this, I am shocked.

I thought I was doing the right thing, but it appears that you guys just want to get down to business. Is this right or wrong ???

Jacqui xxx

[filghy2]

I think it all depends Jacqui. I have no problem with being offered these things as long as I have the right to say "no thanks". Generally, I would welcome the opportunity to have a shower and a drink. However, if I come straight from my hotel or home and shower beforehand to save time it's a bit frustrating if the escort still insists I have a shower, which sometimes happens. But I'm not so fussed as long as the shower time doesn't come out of the time I've paid for, which may be a concern many clients have.

It also depends on the length of the booking. If it's only 1/2 an hour I'm much less likely to welcome a massage than in a 1 hour booking. Generally, however, I would prefer to have a massage afterward rather than before. The main reason I would book an hour is to have the opportunity to go again, which is harder if the massage is at the start.

[Telvin]

Personally, I don't think a massage is a waste of time. In most cases it leads to the intimacy part much as foreplay does. I also, don't think a shower is a waste of time. I know we all like to get into the "dirty" sex, but sex is more enjoyable when both parties are clean and hygienic. It is better if you grab a shower together. As for drinks, I decline as I don't think alcohol (or drugs) has any place in the session between SP or client. Everyone should be completely sober and consenting.

Now that all being said, when I show up I always put the envelope in plan sight and ask to use the shower. Have a quick 5 minute or so wash (I always shower prior to coming to the session) so the SP can check the envelope without it being awkward. If they offer a drink I will only take water if they have it.

Anyway, it sounds like you are offering a nice service.

By the way, you're gorgeous.

[hippifried]

Wasting who's time? I'm thinking that perhaps the author of said article never wants to see the same client twice.

If it was written by a customer, who's in such a hurry:
Why not pick up a street walker and pull into the nearest alleyway. Done in 5 minutes or less.

[skirtrustler]

It depends on what the client wants, you need to find out early on.

Personally I go for two hours, longer with those I know. This means that I can shower and clean if I have been driving, and often bring a bottle of wine. I like to get to know the person a little and work out what they like, and to me a good meeting is about two adults having a lot of mutual fun doing what they both enjoy doing. Yes, that means less than 100% rock and roll, but it is the whole experience I value. I am lucky that I can work this way.

I have met - and never returned to - one or two girls who have deliberately wasted my time by taking long third party phone calls or messaging their friends.

[skirtrustler]

why not pick up a street walker ... Done in 5 minutes or less.
LOL ?.. once sat in a hotel bar in Glasgow some years ago with some work colleagues watching the wildlife outside and timing them. MTTF (mean time to f**k) was 20 minutes.

[jacqui_jones]

The shower, drink etc in my book isnt counted in time, its not part of the bedtime. So the message is part of the time paid for.

I see a lot of first timers and see the message as a way of helping the nervous newbie relax and get some type connection with me. I enjoy the banter and conversation with clients and it helps me to trust them

[jacqui_jones]

Anyway, it sounds like you are offering a nice service.

By the way, you're gorgeous.



Thank you very much, I try my best x

[jacqui_jones]

Wasting who's time? I'm thinking that perhaps the author of said article never wants to see the same client twice.

If it was written by a customer, who's in such a hurry

Loads of reviews by customers for various girls saying "wasted time, offered me a drink and shower" etc etc

[jacqui_jones]

It depends on what the client wants, you need to find out early on.

Personally I go for two hours, longer with those I know. This means that I can shower and clean if I have been driving, and often bring a bottle of wine. I like to get to know the person a little and work out what they like, and to me a good meeting is about two adults having a lot of mutual fun doing what they both enjoy doing. Yes, that means less than 100% rock and roll, but it is the whole experience I value. I am lucky that I can work this way.

I have met - and never returned to - one or two girls who have deliberately wasted my time by taking long third party phone calls or messaging their friends.

I agree with so much that you are saying.

I am very bouncy when I have a client, I ask them over the phone what they are looking for and when I get extreme or fetish requests I turn them down with an apology. I offer a shower, I offer a drink and I offer a massage. Its not forced.

I have just been very surprised to hear that to some people this is all classed as timewasting. I want to give an all round good experience. Good banter, nice home, good massage, great blow job and good sex, all with no rush.

I love the fact you have given the girls a widebirth if they have been on the phone. I have heard of other girls taking booking from other clients while they have actually having sex with a client.

[tacocorpv2]

I wouldn't call it time wasting but a 5* service instead... but then again these clients might be the ones that only have one thought in their mind, so I guess to them it would be wasted time to even say good morning. :p

[Laphroaig]

Loads of reviews by customers for various girls saying "wasted time, offered me a drink and shower" etc etc

You asked for a brutally honest opinion and you'll probably get the best answer from reading ukpunting, the site I suspect your friend was referring to. Their puntingwiki is particularly enlightening and I've linked to the relevant section on "Prostitute Time Wasting".

https://www.ukpunting.com/

https://www.puntingwiki.com/wiki/Prostitute_Time_Wasting_Tactics

While you may not include shower/drink time in the paid for time, many will and it's a very common time wasting ploy. Not really a problem in bookings of an hour or more, but 10 min "lost" out of a 30 min booking becomes more significant.

[filghy2]

I have just been very surprised to hear that to some people this is all classed as timewasting. I want to give an all round good experience. Good banter, nice home, good massage, great blow job and good sex, all with no rush.



Unfortunately, many escorts are less conscientious than you appear to be, which probably explains the complaints you cited. I can certainly relate to many of the things mentioned in the puntingwiki article, though some of the examples may be extreme rather than typical.

[hippifried]

Jacqui,
Just keep doing what you're doing. It takes a minute ra half at most to ask if you can help them to relax. If it takes the rest of the session to come up with an answer, that's their problem. If they're going to gripe about being asked, bend him over, give him a quick slam, & tell him to hurry up and leave so he won't be late. Ever so politely of course. Hehehe

[jacqui_jones]

I wouldn't call it time wasting but a 5* service instead... but then again these clients might be the ones that only have one thought in their mind, so I guess to them it would be wasted time to even say good morning. :p

Thats my aim x

[jacqui_jones]

You asked for a brutally honest opinion and you'll probably get the best answer from reading ukpunting, the site I suspect your friend was referring to. Their puntingwiki is particularly enlightening and I've linked to the relevant section on "Prostitute Time Wasting".

https://www.ukpunting.com/

https://www.puntingwiki.com/wiki/Prostitute_Time_Wasting_Tactics

While you may not include shower/drink time in the paid for time, many will and it's a very common time wasting ploy. Not really a problem in bookings of an hour or more, but 10 min "lost" out of a 30 min booking becomes more significant.

Yeah it was from this site, I didnt know whether or not it was allowed to be mentioned on here of not.

I have been asked for a hot drink in the past and tbh it baffles me, it takes time to make and it takes time to drink. Most guys ask for a glass of water, the water out of my tap is crap so I buy bottled and it take 20 seconds to pour. I like to give a massage and I normally ask them about them, what do they do, where do they live (roughly), have they met a trans girl before, what do they like to get upto, whats the fantasy etc, while caressing their back and particularly their inside leg. My aim is and always has been, I want my client to come back and see me, if I take the piss, if i am unsociable etc I dont think they will come back.

[hamdasl]

Personally, I like to start off with a nice meal and then relax and talk about what we both enjoy before getting started with business, but that's just me..

[jacqui_jones]

Personally, I like to start off with a nice meal and then relax and talk about what we both enjoy before getting started with business, but that's just me..

sounds lovely but a bit difficult on a 30 min booking xxx

[Laphroaig]

Yeah it was from this site, I didnt know whether or not it was allowed to be mentioned on here of not.

I have been asked for a hot drink in the past and tbh it baffles me, it takes time to make and it takes time to drink. Most guys ask for a glass of water, the water out of my tap is crap so I buy bottled and it take 20 seconds to pour. I like to give a massage and I normally ask them about them, what do they do, where do they live (roughly), have they met a trans girl before, what do they like to get upto, whats the fantasy etc, while caressing their back and particularly their inside leg. My aim is and always has been, I want my client to come back and see me, if I take the piss, if i am unsociable etc I dont think they will come back.

To be honest, there is no one size fits all approach as every client will be different. If what you're doing works and you're getting repeat clients, then there's no real need to change. If you started to see a drop off in returning clients and/or some negative comments/reviews, that would be the time to reevaluate.

Personally, my own "routine" as a punter is usually fairly straightforward. I tend to book an hour, jump in the shower while they stash the cash and get down to business fairly quickly once out of the shower. Refuse any offers of a drink at the start as I usually find there's plenty of time for that and a chat while recovering towards the end of the booking. Don't like massages at the beginning, but may accept one at the end. To be honest, all bar one massage I've had has been crap, the worst being from a girl who claimed to be qualified in it. Mostly I find I'm in and out in the hour, give or take 5 min, but it has ranged from 30 min to 90 min. As soon as I'm aware the hour is up, I'll always tell the girl that if she needs me to leave, just kick me out. Unless they have another booking directly after, I've found most are happy enough to chat for 10 - 15 min after. I don't take the piss and try for any extra sexual services during that though. Just as there are girls who try to waste clients time, there are clients who deliberately try to extend booking times.