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Stavros
08-04-2017, 12:26 AM
Here is a simple test: what do you think of, visually, when someone says United States of America-? Here is a short list:

The Statue of Liberty
The White House
The Lincoln Memorial
The Grand Canyon
The Golden Gate Bridge

I could add many more but I think the above are a fair selection. But I must admit I did not know until today how much the alt-right loathes and detests the Statue of Liberty, as emerged from a heated exchange between a journalist called Acosta (a man I have never heard of before) and senior advisor to the President, Stephen Miller.

The question is simple:
is the Statue of Liberty welcoming to America the wretched of the earth to begin a new life, or radiating liberty out of the USA to the rest of the world? For Miller, it is the latter, and he emphasized that the poem on the plinth of the Statue was added some years afterwards, as if it was an early form of political correctness, even though I am sure he knows the author, Emma Lazarus (a Jew, as were Miller's maternal relatives from Belarus) wrote the poem in France when the French were raising money for the creation and erection of the Statue, so it was hardly an afterthought.

What does Miss Liberty mean to you?
Is Miller right, and should all Americans revise any views they had and concede that the Statue has nothing to do with immigration into the US but is a symbol of America's export of liberty to the world?

How does that square with the new ruling by Rex Tillerson that State Department publications no longer mention the words 'Democracy' and 'Human Rights' -will they retain Liberty as a prized concept or is it also to be a casualty of the alt-right Administration?

If so, this might be the right time to remove the Statue of Liberty and park it in Nevada, because it has no meaning for the people in power. Or, maybe they should replace it with a Statue of the Greatest and Most Popular President of All Time. Even call it the Pharaoh of the West? After all, he is from New York, which makes him more American than Miss Liberty...n'est-ce pas?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/03/statue-of-liberty-stephen-miller-trump-immigration#comment-103137823

You can read about Stephen Miller here-
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/05/stephen-miller-duke-donald-trump

sukumvit boy
08-04-2017, 10:32 PM
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sukumvit boy
08-04-2017, 11:53 PM
What do people think of when they think of america ?
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blackchubby38
08-05-2017, 12:14 AM
I think its both. I also think that both Acosta and Miller came off looking like complete tools.

Stavros
08-15-2019, 12:49 AM
Miss Liberty has a new poet, Ken Cucinelli.

Welcome, bluest eye.
welcome with your wad.
And to the rest, bye-bye
And your land that time forgot.
We want Norwegians, we don’t want you.

Will Miss Liberty be moved to, say, Toledo?

trish
08-15-2019, 06:55 PM
This land ain’t your land, this land is their land
From California to the New York Island
From the redwood Forest, to the gulf stream waters
This land’s for those who pay the fee.

Stavros
01-11-2020, 08:05 PM
The Statue of Liberty is run by the National Parks Service, also responsible for the Grand Canyon, Yosemite and others, all of them under attack from the new regime. Useful article about the NPS here-

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/10/us-national-parks-dismantling-under-way