Whats more damaging to you, Porn or Online Dating?

[SXFX]

honest question and do your best to answer.

From your point of view what was or is more damaging to your level of happiness?
Online dating or Porn?

Ladies, i'm sorry i don't think this applies to you since well i know of two therapist who suggest their female patients who are suffering from depression try online dating to boost their serotonin levels from non stop compliments...no joke....

[sockratees]

neither.

this site is great, it's really the only 'porn' site i'm on due to the forum format, so i get to discuss stuff. i see porn largely as a form of art so it's nice to be able to talk about what's in front of you.

online dating is cool too. i get lots of replies, more than i can manged rn, and get to chat with the types of girls i like, so it's good.

i consider myself 'transoriented' so i'm doing what i can in terms of dating while keeping my expectations realistic.

[SXFX]

the trans online dating thing is working for you....as a guy? wow! i think you are going to get alot of emails from guys asking how you pulled that off! hell even on GG online dating....i got maybe...maybe 1 email a month!
it was causing me some very serious depression issues.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

the trans online dating thing is working for you....as a guy? wow! i think you are going to get alot of emails from guys asking how you pulled that off! hell even on GG online dating....i got maybe...maybe 1 email a month!
it was causing me some very serious depression issues.

Online dating comes down to looks as well as quality pictures. Even the girls looking for something serious.

[lordworm]

When are we gonna acknowledge that men have it really bad?

[SanDiegoPervySage]

When are we gonna acknowledge that men have it really bad?

I think that's universally known. Men have to initiate most of the time and when they do receive messages, the girl is usually unattractive. Combine that with a large number of girls being on dating sites for validation. It's a shallow experience.

Although I will admit girls do have to deal with tons of weird, thirsty dudes.

[dc_guy_75]

When are we gonna acknowledge that men have it really bad?

It sure is terrible being on top of the social ladder, especially if you're white, educated and reasonably attractive.

[nysprod]

honest question and do your best to answer.

From your point of view what was or is more damaging to your level of happiness?
Online dating or Porn?

Ladies, i'm sorry i don't think this applies to you since well i know of two therapist who suggest their female patients who are suffering from depression try online dating to boost their serotonin levels from non stop compliments...no joke....

Sex is just another thing people get involved with...like gardening. Actually, doing any preferred activity will boost serotonin levels.

That's so 60's, the concept of just doing what you like

[sockratees]

the trans online dating thing is working for you....as a guy? wow! i think you are going to get alot of emails from guys asking how you pulled that off! hell even on GG online dating....i got maybe...maybe 1 email a month!
it was causing me some very serious depression issues.

Is it casual sex you're looking for on these sites?

[lordworm]

It sure is terrible being on top of the social ladder, especially if you're white, educated and reasonably attractive.

Here come the misguided socialists.

[tacocorpv2]

the trans online dating thing is working for you....as a guy? wow! i think you are going to get alot of emails from guys asking how you pulled that off! hell even on GG online dating....i got maybe...maybe 1 email a month!
it was causing me some very serious depression issues.

Dunno, just put a decent picture and some not too cheesy description. I just checked out the profiles of the women I liked, didn't even write anything and then they would write to me instead (not everyone but plenty). And you can go from there. :D

I'm not on any such sites anymore. Just here.

[Samui]

Porn has always been a positive to my happiness. Online Dating was a depressing endeavor and as soon as I quit I felt immensely better. I really don't like dating.

[sockratees]

I'm not on any such sites anymore.

Why?

[Ts RedVeX]

Port! ehe he hee

[SXFX]

port...he he ok that was funny.

For me....you are talking about a guy who after being a dumbfuck and paid for his x wife's university education was divorced via text message out of the blue....thank god it was only 3 of the 4 years.....online dating was worse than that!

Getting divorced or getting dumped after a long term relationship even if it's out of the blue can be seen as being rejected by one woman.

Real life world of meeting a person at a bar or a cafe where the rejection rate is 90%+ is also being rejected by one person...and on any given night....maybe 5 women will reject you and 1 will smile. ok that's nice.

online dating.......you can be rejected as fast as you can send messages on OKcupid or swiping right on Bumble or Tinder.
Each non returned swipe is a rejection....at first it's nothing....just a passing thing to do while you wait for your friends but then it hit you...holy fuck i just got rejected by 100+ random strangers! OMG i must be a very ugly person....

For me i'll be honest online dating almost had me on prozac and feeling as if i were the ugliest man in the world....and since i work in the tech industry where it's 999999 men to 10 handsome ladies....my real life reinforced my online life....it was a horrible death spin.

Now porn? ok the only thing i've noticed between porn and real life is this....AMERICAN WOMEN ARE FAT AS FUCK! Flat bellies and strong legs are an endangered species here in the north east outside of our major cities! While in porn flat bellies are the norm...in real life it's next to impossible to find......and i can deal with that.....

the non stop rejections........shit no.....fuck no.....hell no......

[sockratees]

It's not like dude. You're taking these apps way too seriously, plus you didn't answer my question.

[SXFX]

looking for a relationship.....late bloomer in life...not use to or even understand hookup culture....i'm a dummy serial monogamist

[sockratees]

Online dating is a different world from RL dating. Women there tend to be a lot picker than your average girl, plus a large percent of them are only there out of curiosity and aren't even sure if they want to meet someone.

For instance, I had been on one dating site for 6 months. By month 5 I realized that almost HALF of the women I had contacted had deleted their accounts. What does that tell you? Women get maybe 20-30 times more messages than your average guy, yet that doesn't mean they're actually going out on dates/meeting the guys they want/succeeding. Look at the statistics for online dating, you will see guys get significantly less messages than their female counter parts. That means girls are flooded with attention, much more than they can really tend to properly. It's an uphill battle for guys, so don't judge yourself by a profile. It took me a while to figure out who to message, who not to, and what to write before I got the hang of it.

I get responses from girls, that doesn't mean it actually works out for me like I want it to. I don't use it for dates anymore, mostly just chatting up local girls because I enjoy the interaction. If I'm lucky I might meet up with one after a couple of weeks with really no expectations. Just friends. And that's the way I like it. If it turns into something more then great.

My advice is look somewhere else or join a paid site if you're serious. Guys get much better results there.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

You need to realize even the hottest guys only attract a small percentage of women. And even a smaller amount are available. You need to get this idea of wanting every girl you like or swipe to like you.

Also, I look through men's dating profiles for too see how I can get a one up on them. Is not hard. Most of the guys are out of shape, can't dress, have terrible pics, try to be too funny or come off as a total simp or too nice (not saying to be a dick). It really does take some time to get good at making an appealing profile.

You ever see the articles that have "20 things to make yourself instantly hotter"? Listen to those. A lot of those things are common sense but a lot of men still don't know them. A decent physique+well fitting clothes+nice haircut (something trendy) will put you ahead of your average man. Also, women are shallow when it comes to height so don't have pics that show you're short, if you are. Lots of girls will automatically skip you because you're short. That's just how the game is played. Maximize your looks, don't focus on what you can't change, hit the numbers.

[Budweiser]

It sure is terrible being on top of the social ladder, especially if you're white, educated and reasonably attractive.


Here come the misguided socialists.

The anti-white racist nerds are hilarious. :dead-1:

Trump 2020, baby! :)

[tacocorpv2]

Why?

Well, the last one I had a relationship (of sorts) with threatened to kill herself if I left her.. and before that she was starting to become possessive, which I found to be very off-putting to say the least.

[sockratees]

I ran across a girl like that once. It happens. I doubt you will run into many more unless you're into unhealthy people.

[SXFX]

a gorgeous TS woman i dated from OKCupid....yes they are on there if you are lucky....once said
"Online dating, the wrong side of the road, the wrong side of the track and too crazy for their looks.....it's where all the broken toys end up!"

[Dudedude12345]

I would have to day online dating because i got stood up many times

[SXFX]

stood up?
hell yea

lied to?
hell yes!

made to feel invisible?
fuck yes!

I never went into the TS dating sights....i could only imagine how horrible they are!
if GG online dating is 50 men to every 1 woman god TS dating must be 50000000 men to 1 poor TS girl getting all the attention?

[lerfdunner]

Online dating. It's not exactly the best feeling.

[hamdasl]

Cigarettes.

[fee23451]

Online dating for sure! I live in Charleston, SC and its full of PTP girls and flakes! FML!

[SXFX]

so finally killed my bumble account.....that was the last one.....
wow....its like being on the float.....which kind of sucks?
work 12 hour days in an office making sure everyone around you is ok making sure everyone goes home ok.....and then walking out at 7pm after 12 hours and eating lunch at your desk....and all your "friends" are either married with kids or married about to have kids sooooooooo.......you just go to the gym which sadly in NJ appear to be devoid of ladies...soooooo

yeah.....

it's like the fight club movie.....?

sooooo being "free" of online dating is kind of like being free of false hope?

but i can't help but wonder..........should i get back on will things be different in a few month? or will it be the same old people i've always seen on there?

and then there is the every silly and stupid thought of....hey maybe there is a TS online dating application.....which there isn't.....sigh?

isn't life a total kick to the balls?

[holzz]

neither. porn for me was how i got into liking trans women, but now after nearly 15 years or more, i realise it's just a fantasy. i see trans porn how i see gg porn, just a compartmentalisation of lust/horniness, but not at all representative of real life.

[SXFX]

yeah the other day i was thinking....hummmm...well maybe i want to try online dating again...but this time only for TS ladies......sigh what a dumb ass thought!

[sockratees]

yeah the other day i was thinking....hummmm...well maybe i want to try online dating again...but this time only for TS ladies......sigh what a dumb ass thought!

Can you elaborate on this? I'm on a TG dating site at the moment and I can't say it's horrible, online dating in general really isn't for me, I get some replies and attention but the problem is everyone lives so far apart. I had a great convo with this girl but she lives in Canada, I'm in NY. We hit it off ok but the lives on the furthest side of Canada from my location as possible. I mean plane rides and fares just to test compatibility? And there's only so much you can pickup from someone from an online interaction.

[SXFX]

i can't imagine TS online dating apps being any better than say bumble or okcupid....
but you are saying they aren't that bad? really!!! you are yanking my chain!

[sockratees]

i can't imagine TS online dating apps being any better than say bumble or okcupid....
but you are saying they aren't that bad? really!!! you are yanking my chain!

well, i've gotten better interaction with girls on tg dating sites than on okcupid or something else. maybe it's because i feel more comfortable/attracted to a tg girl and i put in a little more effort. idk.

[Ben in LA]

neither. porn for me was how i got into liking trans women, but now after nearly 15 years or more, i realise it's just a fantasy. i see trans porn how i see gg porn, just a compartmentalisation of lust/horniness, but not at all representative of real life.
Same here, kind sir...especially after getting to know the girls acting in those films. Many of them are NOT like the persona they present on film. I've made friends with them, but a relationship hasn't been in the cards. The one girl I AM interested in isn't in the industry, so I've gotten to know the real her from the jump.

[SXFX]

every now and then....when friends are not free for drinks....and when you are over 35 it appears almost all of your friends are never free for drinks due to wife and kids.....i look at the phone and think...should i restart my OKCupid account...or my bumble account......it's like wanting just that one cigarette

this is a horrible addiction....and addiction to hope.......how silly is that!

[nitron]

Dating , generally, online or not. If your poor guy ,,hahahahhahha, Porn for you! Let's face it as men the world over know it.Personality counts, but cash is Queen.

[nitron]

And Porn,it takes the edge off, but not much else.
On a personal note, feel same way about the straight world . Girls can't help it.
So , for me , porn is better.