Post ops WHY! (reassesed and updated on latter pages)

[lust4ts]

EDIT complete bullshit and shit views, Thanks quinn and everybody for kicking my ass for kicking my ass in to shape. :oops:

[Quinn]

I myself have no interest in post op ts as in my eyes they r merely impersonators of women.

Fortunately, except for the entertainment it currently provides, your opinion means absolutely nothing. A TS woman doesn’t get SRS for you; she does it for herself. Remember, genius, it’s not always about you.


a pre op transsexual is not an impersonator of a women because the fact that she has a cock gives her own identity and thats what makes her so special.

So, according to your fallacious special logic, a TS woman with a vagina is just impersonating a woman, while one with a penis isn’t. That’s so obviously inane an opinion that it really doesn’t merit any further consideration. Nice job, stupid.

[lust4ts]

Ok quinn or should i call you quimm its very clever the way you illistrated your feelings with a nice little picture and you call me genious. if you love post ops so much maybe you should set up a site called chopped angels.
so answer this if you want to fuck pussy why a ts is it the fact that she used to be a man that turns you on. frankly thats stranger than wanting a ts because you admire beautiful girls with cocks.

[thanos]

:smh

[Quinn]

Ok quinn or should i call you quimm its very clever the way you illistrated your feelings with a nice little picture and you call me genious. if you love post ops so much maybe you should set up a site called chopped angels.
so answer this if you want to fuck pussy why a ts is it the fact that she used to be a man that turns you on. frankly thats stranger than wanting a ts because you admire beautiful girls with cocks.

LOL @ quimm This will be easier than I thought. You see, dear child, you are what many of the women here refer to as a “cock bandit.” It’s obvious from the uninformed drivel contained in your posts that you’ve never really spent time with TS women as anything more than a trick. Otherwise, you might realize that many TS women who currently have a cock actually hope to one day have SRS.

It’s unfortunate that you would dismiss these women and their aspirations because they do not suit your intellectually distorted view of what a woman should be. In the future, you might try getting to actually know some TS women before you consign many of their aspirations to so unfortunate a judgment as that which you have seen fit to render here. I feel sorry for you, though that certainly won't prevent me from laughing at you.

Though I'm sure you hear this all the time, I feel it needs repeating:

[BeardedOne]

:popcorn

[lust4ts]

another nice picture quinn this just gets better. what you failed to mention is that there are many transsexuals who are happy with the way they are and have no asspirations to have a full sex change as it is not guaranteed that they retain any sexual feeling after such an operation. there have been many cases of transsexuals who had sex changes and regreted it as they can longer enjoy sex. in any case most transsexuals who do want eventually have a sex change would want it later in life. to put the record straight i have nothing against post op transsexuals i just merely stated i dont see the fascination with someone who essentialy has all the same external body parts as a women except they used to be a man If you took the time out to get down from your very large soapbox maybe you could see that. and as for spending time with a ts i know 2 and neither of them would the full operation in the forseeable future. were you born a complete moren or did you just grow into one.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

oh god lust- i had some sence of respect for u before- but now- sad sad sad sad point of views.

[GroobySteven]

Damn - Quinn wins the award for finding and slapping the STUPIDEST POSTER OF THE MONTH AWARD.
seanchai

[AllanahStarrNYC]

BUMP

[hondarobot]

Dammit! I was just going to throw in with this lust4ts guy, for no other reason then to have a fun fight against Quinn.

Allanah is a party pooper.

:P

Honestly, I side with Quinn and most everyone else on this topic. But a good fight is a good fight. Good way to releave tension.

:wink:

[peggygee]

Whats with all the post op requests. remember this site is called hungangels for those of you who are dumb the hung bit refers to cock.
I myself have no interest in post op ts as in my eyes they r merely impersonators of women. if i want to fuck vagina ill fuck a genetic girl which i often do. a pre op transsexual is not an impersonator of a women because the fact that she has a cock gives her own identity and thats what makes her so special. for me its simple i find women attractive and not men but am comfortable enough with myself to admit i like cock and thats why i joined this site. if you dont agree at least my reasons for joining Hungangels are valid what about yours?

Dear Sir,

As the Duly Elected President :king of the International Post Operative Womens Association (IPOWA), I can say that we have given your concern much thought and examination.

We have submitted the matter to the rank and file, and we have been in many meetings, summits, and tele-conferences with our members through-out the world. :soapbox

After many weeks of careful deliberation, we are able to state to you and to others with viewpoints devoid of merit, that :

1. We aren't doing this to please y'all.

2. A womens body, belongs to her, and she has ultimate say-so over it, in all matters, including to but not not limited to:

A. Who with,and when they will have sex.

B. Her rights to GID decisions, cosmetic surgeries, and GRS.

C. Reproductive rights, abortion, surrogacy, etc.

Finally the Sisters from 'da hood' as well as the 'burbs', asked me to convey this to you and your like minded brethren :censor fuc...:censor ..kiss my funky...:censor ... we hope your limp d... falls of.. :censor ...get a clue you ignor....pie.. ....:censor ..:censor

As, I am a classy broad, I am not at liberty to repeat such utterances, but I will say :moon

Sincerely,
Peggy Gee
President Elect (IPOWA)
Never Under Estimate The Power Of Women

[TomSelis]

Dumbest thread.....ever.

[xxMelania4uxx]

she utilized the emotions all in 1 post

[Quinn]

what you failed to mention is that there are many transsexuals who are happy with the way they are and have no asspirations to have a full sex change. . . .


many TS women who currently have a cock actually hope to one day have SRS.

You’ll note that my statement contains the adjective “many.” Maybe English, like TS women, just isn’t your thing. Since that’s obviously the case, I’ll help you comprehend what has transpired. In the above instance, the adjective “many” describes a percentage of TS women less than the entirety of said group. Once you understand the role of the adjective “many,” comprehending that there is a significant percentage of TS women not intent upon getting SRS becomes a simple matter. See how easy that was?

Now, normally I would be happy to continue having at you, but the fact is you have done a far better job painting yourself the fool than I or any other poster could hope to do for you. Thanks for playing – and winning – WATCH ME PUT MY FOOT IN MY MOUTH: THE HOME GAME.

You might want to keep this:

[lust4ts]

Allanah im sure you are going to take offence to this but what the hell.
ill let you have it as i see it. firstly your whole carreer is built on the fact that you have a cock. your cock is one of the main reasons you are a big star in the adult video world. you make money from the fact that you have a cock. and however much you dont like to hear that you can not escape the truth. Why have you not decided to have full sex change is because you are happy and comfortable with who you are as in what i was saying i hope so. a pesimist might say that if you did have a full sex change you not make 100th of the money you make to appear in a film.
its ok to call me sad but i do not claim to be an expert i just know what i like. could you argue with th fact that about 99 percent of your fans by your videos because you are a pre op transsexual. how many videos do see in an adult store for post op transsexuals not many i guess. if you decided to become a post op transsexual i would be completely happy for you as it is what you would want. im not saying i would not sleep with or even fall in love with a post op transsexual if i liked her as a person i just dont see the fascination in wanting to see pictures and video. all i know is i originally found you attractive because you are beautifull and you have a cock. if you didnt im sorry but i wouldnt even know who are.

[lust4ts]

Quinn thats just complete babble to try make your self sound clever without saying anything at all just remember opions are like assholes everybody got one.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

lust i am glad you know me so well as yo know why i have made or not made certain descisions with my body. i am very well aware of what i market myself as, and what i do for a living. i would like to think, that there is much, much, much more than just a penis to me- because when i look naked in the mirror, that is the only part that remains masculine about my body. i'm not the best looking broad, but i get by. and i some what smart, and a good person- and you know what, believe or not that has carried me over in my life, much, much more than the mere fact that i have a penis.

now the only person i have to answer to in life is MYSELF and my GOD. that's it.

and i am glad that i have a partner in my life that loves me as i am and not because i have a penis and i know that would love me the same if i got srs.

i think you have been really offensive towards post operative transsexuals by calling them female impersonators and patronizing those who opt for surgery.

as you are so quick to judge why anyone would be interested in a post op, do remember that there are far more many who are very quick to judge you severley for liking a woman with a penis.

those of us who live in glass houses, should really refrain from throwing stones because u never know when the glass is going to crack in your face.

[lust4ts]

allanah you make many valid points. im glad your partner does not just love you just for the fact you have a penis. but im sure he likes it anyway. if you read my original point i was not talking about the way post op transsexuals choose to live there lifes. my point was aimed at the people who were asking for videos and pictures maybe im stupid but i dont see what these have to do with personalities or life choices. i was trying to state that i didnt understand the fascination myself and simply airing my veiws on the matter. as for calling post op transsexuals mere women impersonators this was probably wrong and i am big enough to admit this was most likely out of order i have been educated on something i didnt understand. conseeding this i still makes no sense to me why people who were only interested in post op transsexuals would join a site called hungangels but there you i guess you can take a horse to water but you can not make them drink.

[lust4ts]

Thank you passionatelaover finally someone who understands a little bit of what i was trying to say. if post op transsexuals were nearly as interesting or attractive as pre op transsexuals there would 1000s of web sites and adult videos dedicticated to them as there are with pre ops. people vote with there feet or in this case with there hands. how many films are sold in the video section of this site about post op transsexuals. im sick of people joining a site called hungangels wich essentially translates to chick with dicks, girls with cocks or whatever and then trying to convince people they dont like shecock pure madness?

[wrangler]

Hi,

I've been following this post from the beginning. In answer to your original question: why? Well, I can only answer for myself as one who really appreciates post-op women. Post-op women are totally committed to being true to themselves evident in undergoing surgery. Also, post-op women are extremely feminine and very alluring (sexy) in a very unique manner. Also, the comments suggesting that a post-op woman's appearance (outward and under her panties) is somewhat "lacking or not as good as" a GG. Well, I think " a bit different" is a better description. I personally think this "difference" is head and shoulders above what any GG has. Also, to comment specifically about the appearance of a post-op women's "manmade" vagina... to me it is undoubtedly the most beautiful, appealing, irresistible sight I have ever laid eyes on. Greatly superior to a GG. In my view it's the GG that is lacking.
I hope this answers your original question. Personally, I am glad most men share your opinion regarding post-op women because it creates more opportunities for guys like me to date post-op women. The opportunities are rare enough, thanks for helping us out.

[Realgirls4me]

We should affix a permanent thread for the most "Ridiculous" or "Stupid" postings. The posts in here by Lust4ts merit a great deal of consideration. How do people who exist in black and white prizms exist?

[Realgirls4me]

(Borrowed from another thread)

So if you found these two beautiful women waiting in bed for you, as the second one is, they wouldn't do a thing for you, huh ? Not even titillate the smallest of a hard-on or rise?

[Coroner]

:lol:

[lust4ts]

to everyone who hates my views oh well. i guess im still young and pretty. ha ha.

[specialk]

to everyone who hates my views oh well. i guess im still young and pretty. ha ha.

Yes grasshopper....., but you have much to learn :)

[ezed]

to everyone who hates my views oh well. i guess im still young and pretty. ha ha.

We don't hate your views, we're just tired of hearing them over and over again. You made your point. No one really gives a shit. Regarding young and pretty, your right .... all the boys want you!

[RangeHova]

to everyone who hates my views oh well. i guess im still young and pretty. ha ha.

What you like is what you like and no one is judging you for that. It just sucks that you act like what you like is what others should like. You come off as having an extremely limited view and closed mind. I don't get why you have so little understanding of the fact that other people aren't motivated by what motivates you.

For you it is all about the dick it seems, that is your perogative. Just don't assume that is what this attraction is for others.

[Beaner]

POST OPs????

[lust4ts]

Whats with all the post op requests. remember this site is called hungangels for those of you who are dumb the hung bit refers to cock.
I myself have no interest in post op ts as in my eyes they r merely impersonators of women. if i want to fuck vagina ill fuck a genetic girl which i often do. a pre op transsexual is not an impersonator of a women because the fact that she has a cock gives her own identity and thats what makes her so special. for me its simple i find women attractive and not men but am comfortable enough with myself to admit i like cock and thats why i joined this site. if you dont agree at least my reasons for joining Hungangels are valid what about yours?

:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

I am actually glad this thread has been brought up after 7 months of me writing it, and it actually makes me cringe to read it. These views are frankly disgusting and ridiculous. Im not going to try and justify them as that would be impossible, all I will say 7 months ago I was just a 26 guy from a small town near London England who had little to no experience of transgender people on a non sexual level, and clearly had a warped view of what it meant to be transgender. I would sincerely like to thank allanah, quinn, ezed and especially Peggy Gee who I respect and find an insightful and very special person here at HA for smacking me down when I wrote this bullshit. I would like to think that I have come along way in this time and my views have definitely changed on this subject. So to add I would also like to thank the creators of this site and the mods for giving me the chance to be able to interact with actual transgender people and educate myself on something I clearly lacked an understanding of, and to change my views on this subject and hopefully grow into a better person. And even I now try to educate people with wrong or warped views concerning transgender people with the knowledge I have acquired from people such as Peggy Gee. AS I said I have apologized in quite a view posts I have made since, but again I apologize sincerely for these views and anyone I offended. These are certainly not my views now and I would like to add a link to something I wrote about three weeks ago which illustrates how I now feel on this subject. (end of page one and page two of link)

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=14595&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

And I would also like to officially say...........

[Kriss]

And I would also like to officially say...........

Hats off to lust4ts for his honest re-evaluation. I read this thread and thought "eeewwwww, who pulled this old diaper out of the dustbin". Brave man to resurrect it just to apologise and thank the vets for slapping you down!
Takes some balls to look at yourself and admit you have been ignorant.
This site is a so needed, HA has clued me up no end in the short time I have
been here. So yeah, big thanks to all the girls who take the time and patience to educate us young,dumb and full of cum rookies. Mods - keep breaking our balls, we will thank you for it when we are older.

(seen that last pic before I think, was better first time.)

[lust4ts]

Hats off to lust4ts for his honest re-evaluation. I read this thread and thought "eeewwwww, who pulled this old diaper out of the dustbin". Brave man to resurrect it just to apologise and thank the vets for slapping you down!
Takes some balls to look at yourself and admit you have been ignorant.
This site is a so needed, HA has clued me up no end in the short time I have
been here. So yeah, big thanks to all the girls who take the time and patience to educate us young,dumb and full of cum rookies. Mods - keep breaking our balls, we will thank you for it when we are older.

(seen that last pic before I think, was better first time.)

Firstly thanks for seeing it that way, when I joined here it seems I was just a little shitlock drunk on TS Porn. Now I feel I have sobered up a bit and have at least a slightly deeper and realistic view of things. As for the pic I have used it before but I thought the hands on head thing was appropiate to the way I felt after reading what I wrote, this is what I was really thinking about myself back then.

[Kriss]

I'm sure it will all go in your end of year TS school report. Give yourself a gold star and go to the front of the class. I'm deliberately failing this year so I get shipped off to TS summer camp. God I love it in when Allanah puts me in detention!

[peggygee]

Whats with all the post op requests. remember this site is called hungangels for those of you who are dumb the hung bit refers to cock.
I myself have no interest in post op ts as in my eyes they r merely impersonators of women. if i want to fuck vagina ill fuck a genetic girl which i often do. a pre op transsexual is not an impersonator of a women because the fact that she has a cock gives her own identity and thats what makes her so special. for me its simple i find women attractive and not men but am comfortable enough with myself to admit i like cock and thats why i joined this site. if you dont agree at least my reasons for joining Hungangels are valid what about yours?

:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

I am actually glad this thread has been brought up after 7 months of me writing it, and it actually makes me cringe to read it. These views are frankly disgusting and ridiculous. Im not going to try and justify them as that would be impossible, all I will say 7 months ago I was just a 26 guy from a small town near London England who had little to no experience of transgender people on a non sexual level, and clearly had a warped view of what it meant to be transgender. I would sincerely like to thank allanah, quinn, ezed and especially Peggy Gee who I respect and find an insightful and very special person here at HA for smacking me down when I wrote this bullshit. I would like to think that I have come along way in this time and my views have definitely changed on this subject. So to add I would also like to thank the creators of this site and the mods for giving me the chance to be able to interact with actual transgender people and educate myself on something I clearly lacked an understanding of, and to change my views on this subject and hopefully grow into a better person. And even I now try to educate people with wrong or warped views concerning transgender people with the knowledge I have acquired from people such as Peggy Gee. AS I said I have apologized in quite a view posts I have made since, but again I apologize sincerely for these views and anyone I offended. These are certainly not my views now and I would like to add a link to something I wrote about three weeks ago which illustrates how I now feel on this subject. (end of page one and page two of link)

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=14595&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

And I would also like to officially say...........

I could say that you look into
the light and you could forget
that this thread ever existed.
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/deepstealthpeg.gif

Yet I feel that many people, including myself have grown from
it. I actually now have a better insight into the minds of men who
prefer pre ops.

As I have always said I strongly encourage people to have views
and opinions on topics. Hopefully these differences are expressed
in a respectful and open - minded way.

I appreciate your stating that I have been helpful in providing
information that has helped you to grow. Though my intention
was never to convert your mind to my point of view, but rather
to give you the tools and information to see the situation full
circle.

[lust4ts]

I'm sure it will all go in your end of year TS school report. Give yourself a gold star and go to the front of the class. I'm deliberately failing this year so I get shipped off to TS summer camp. God I love it in when Allanah puts me in detention!

All this talking about allanah seems to have got you feeling horny so here's a picture of a sexy toppless chick to keep you going.

[MrsKellyPierce]

another nice picture quinn this just gets better. what you failed to mention is that there are many transsexuals who are happy with the way they are and have no asspirations to have a full sex change as it is not guaranteed that they retain any sexual feeling after such an operation. there have been many cases of transsexuals who had sex changes and regreted it as they can longer enjoy sex. in any case most transsexuals who do want eventually have a sex change would want it later in life. to put the record straight i have nothing against post op transsexuals i just merely stated i dont see the fascination with someone who essentialy has all the same external body parts as a women except they used to be a man If you took the time out to get down from your very large soapbox maybe you could see that. and as for spending time with a ts i know 2 and neither of them would the full operation in the forseeable future. were you born a complete moren or did you just grow into one. What post-ops are you talking to I work in a Laser Company where we see girls before and after the surgeries downstairs. And 90% of those girls have achieved orgasms and the authenticity looks real from Dr. Reed, Suporn, and Brassard however there are other Dr.s that I was no impressed with on looks. Both of my bosses at that time were post-op and also lovers. I seen both and I've also been with woman...it looked real to me darling. Unless you are talking to transexuals that had the post op surgeries years ago....they basically have mastered the post op surgery for mtf transexuals. Maybe you should learn about it or see it in person before you place judgement.

[lust4ts]

I could say that you look into
the light and you could forget
that this thread ever existed.
Yet I feel that many people, including myself have grown from
it. I actually now have a better insight into the minds of men who
prefer pre ops.

As I have always said I strongly encourage people to have views
and opinions on topics. Hopefully these differences are expressed
in a respectful and open - minded way.

I appreciate your stating that I have been helpful in providing
information that has helped you to grow. Though my intention
was never to convert your mind to my point of view, but rather
to give you the tools and information to see the situation full
circle.



Personally I would rather not forget this thread existed but instead try use it as a reminder of how shallow and closed minded my views once were on this topic and in general. This thread was in fact my second post here at hungangels (saying that my first was almost as crap but that’s going off topic). Anyway after becoming attracted to Pre Op transsexuals from watching an episode of the TV programme Sexcetera featuring vanity and due to lack of opportunities of meeting transgender people in my area (UK) I ended up watching what was probably copious amounts of TG porn. I joined Hungangels for the two simple reasons, Pics and links to movies, on seeing threads on something that I had no experience and understanding of (Post OP transgender people) decided to air my ignorant and clearly offensive opinions on the subject which came across as the ran tings of an asshole, they came across as this simply because they were exactly that. After maybe a week of reading people opinions and interacting with people who had experience of this subject (which I never had the opportunity of before), I began to realise how wrong my views actually were. And the more I read your (Peggy’s) posts actualy began to understand why I was so wrong in the first place. As I have explained in my recently updated and hopefully improved view on this topic.

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=14595&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

Listen I am ashamed of what I wrote, but am glad I decided to come to this site even if it was initially for the wrong reasons. I sincerely feel I am better and more open person for doing so not just when it comes to transsexuals but people in general and there motivations in life. And Peggy you should not feel in any way that your opinions were forced on me if you look back at my posts over this time you will see my evolution so to speak of coming round to this view I now have. And also right is right at the end of the day and you clearly were.

[Kriss]

[quote=Kriss]here's a picture of a sexy toppless chick to keep you going.

I take it all back, You need HELP!

[lust4ts]

What post-ops are you talking to I work in a Laser Company where we see girls before and after the surgeries downstairs. And 90% of those girls have achieved orgasms and the authenticity looks real from Dr. Reed, Suporn, and Brassard however there are other Dr.s that I was no impressed with on looks. Both of my bosses at that time were post-op and also lovers. I seen both and I've also been with woman...it looked real to me darling. Unless you are talking to transexuals that had the post op surgeries years ago....they basically have mastered the post op surgery for mtf transexuals. Maybe you should learn about it or see it in person before you place judgement.


No offence Kelly darling as you put it, you seem like a bright girl and if you took the time to look at the date of when this thread was posted (7 months ago and in fact was my second post) and took the time to read the whole post, to the last page that is, before getting your ass in a twist you will see that your words, "what you are talking about" are somewhat redundent and also if you did read it all you will see that I have apoligised sincerely for what I wrote and updated my views on this topic due to great people like peggy about three weeks ago before this thread even came to surface again.


http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=14595&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
(bottom of page 1)

Yes I was ignorant and yes I was an asshole, but I have sincerely changed since having the opportunity to interact with people who have much more experience than I had (none) on this subject. So answer to answer yes I was clearly wrong and if you did bother to read the whole thread you would see that I had clearly stated this, not to mention apoligising in many other threads, hang on why I am I telling you all this if you read what had been posted today you would know all this. So to sum up if you have an opinion on something (in this case a thread) at least have the conviction to read it through to the end and base your post on what you then assess from your findings. Sorry darling but thanks for the somewhat outdated advice anyway.

[lust4ts]

I take it all back, You need HELP!

:roll: Sheesh man have a sense of humour, you do know the pic is photo shopped and not a real person dumbass.

[lincspoacher]

I'm probably sticking my neck in the noose here .. but does it really matter whether a TG woman is pre or post-op ?

Surely,it's what's "inside" which is more important,rather than the external plumbing arrangements ?

Saying that,I've not actually dated a post-op TG woman ... yet (only pre-ops,so far). But if she & I were compatible .. what's the problem ?

Bye for now,

Poacher.