Met a women, she has HIV, would you date a women with?

[TSLoverIB]

Hey guys
Been on the forum a long time, met good people here.
Figured id ask, see what you all think.
Met a women recently, shes great, sweet, fun, caring, sexy, etc etc.
Anyway shes HIV+, i am Negative.
Shes on ART, undetectable, was honest from meeting me about being positive.

Ive never been someone to judge anyone, for any reason.
Some people would just say hell no, and move on, others would say i would be a friend.
When i met her, i decided to do just that, when she told me. I was also honest, told her it was something i was not wanting to take on at the moment. I have a company, rental properties, bullshit to deal with. Not really looking to put HIV in the mix as to take on as something to worry about.
So she comes back and says, thats ok, thank you for being honest, we will can just be friends.
Obviously some would say, i dont trust the science, maybe because of stigma still, idk.

With the advances in her medication, and with todays PreP.
Then i started thinking, ive read about it, i know how to not get it.
So far, we talk everyday, we flirt, etc etc, there is something more there, then just friends.

I grew up in the day of AIDs tho, seen a friend in middle school die of it. He was such a cool kid, got it through blood transfusion, was not his fault. See people in the 80s waste away, fucking hate this is disease. No one deserves to get it, kinda reminds me of today in todays age is cancer. I know in the 80s guys with AIDs were dying of a cancer.

But as i think, this is a new day, new time, new science, new medicine.
I have read serodiscordant couples, no transmissions between them in the study.
The couples use other protections, condoms, some to not use condoms.

Just recently read can remove HIV through DNA Crispr success.

Makes me wonder a conversation me and friends had in the 90s. A lady i worked with, others talking one day, the ladies some was a hemophilia. One of her greatest fears was him contracting AIDs in his blood one day. I remember some of the others commenting, they already have a cure, but no money in cures.

I keep thinking maybe there is a cure, maybe they are right. Maybe a cure is in site, but something else will follow. They wont cure it until something else, that has the effects of AIDs, but makes money, (like cancer)

I think on this forum, have i read topics, on HIV, AIDs, we have discussed here.

I really like this person, if she can take her meds, and i can take precautions, so considering taking things further. Shes made a few comments of i have a convention near you soon, maybe we can get together.

I have always taken care of my health, never slept around with some i didn't feel something for. I just don't do that shit.

Just kinda hate the thought of being in a relationship thats meant to be monogamous and have to use condoms, or have to avoid thing i like in bed.

What do you guys think? Would like to hear your thoughts, experience.

Thanks

[Laphroaig]

Have you read the threads about PreP on here? A lot of negativity on them (some of it from me), mainly because Westheangelino was an irresponsible moron and obviously touting Truvada, but the situation you describe is exactly what the drug was designed for.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?87385-TRUVADA-Why-are-we-ALL-not-taking-this-!!!!&highlight=Truvada

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?93130-Raise-Your-Hand-if-You-Take-TRUVADA!-BE-PROUD!&highlight=Truvada

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?100128-PREP-Who-is-on-Truvada&highlight=Truvada

[TSLoverIB]

Hi laphroaig
Yeh, ive read, been replies to some of these threads.

Mainly asking in my post is, what do people think? What would people in this forum do? Any experiences with people being in the same?

Thanks

[jesi_j]

it a question of how much you trust this women.......transmission risks are extremely low if drugs are taken as prescribed, and to further keep your self safe you can also use condoms. if you love her go for it, play safe keep ontop of any medication. you can also use protective therapy to prevent infection as an additional safe guard.

[DeseosEscandulosos]

I had a girlfriend once who had herpes. Obviously, that's not anywhere near a dangerous as HIV, but it did involve meds and condoms. She was conscientious about taking whatever it was that the doctor prescribed to suppress the virus. I didn't find condoms to be a problem. A lot of guys claim that it reduces the sensation, but that never happened with me. Once the condom was on, I couldn't tell it was there.

On the other hand, if she has to wear a condom so you can go down on her, I can see how a condom might make it seem less intimate.

In the long run, there's nothing hotter than a good relationship. I've had bad relationships with hot women and at this point my ideal courtship is slow enough that we get a chance to know each other before we get too committed. HIV with minimal risk of infection would be less of an issue for me than finding out how well we communicate. And while HIV might not be a big problem, she might have fears of abandonment that I don't know how to deal with. Or something else I haven't thought of.

A slow courtship gives me the chance to find out what sort of person I am when I'm with this person. You learn things about yourself that you didn't know. I might go into a relationship thinking I can handle HIV, only to discover over time that I can't.

This isn't advice. I'm just telling you what my priorities would be in this situation. You may have different priorities.

In regard to medical advances, we've been two years away from an HIV vaccine for at least twenty years. Researchers need optimism to stay motivated, but they've been consistently overestimating what they can accomplish. I would plan on using condoms as long as the relationship lasts.

[youngblood61]

Jmho, I wouldn't. So many issues.

[TSLoverIB]

Thanks jesi for your reply, i could not find protective therap, can explain alittle more? Is there a name, drug, i can read?

Thank you also deseos, for your reply. I feel the same, keep thinking if the relationship is worth it.
But like you said , not sure how to deal with wearing condoms, with the constant idea of possible infection.

So far i am doing exact that, getting to know the person, making sure i take my time, so far its nice.

It seems shes being as honest as she can, trying to get me to trust her. She tells me she got it from a boyfriend who didn't tell her until months later. It really sounds like she doesn't hold a grudge to it either. It takes a strong person for that, i think i would be on the news if that happened to me, lol.

But this is different, this was brought to me before i even decided to call her back.

Your so right, they have been talking about a cure in two years for more then 20 years now. We would agree the medicine to prolong has got so much better over 20 years, but still.

That is the exact question i am asking myself, am i ready to have to protect myself for our full relationship, and its difficult.
Thats a lot of protection, from everyday, almost everything we would do thats intimate.

I wonder if i should bring in more stress, but also a good thing.

Thanks for your replies tho, appreciate it.

[jesi_j]

this is prob one of the first times a hiv cure/fuctional cure is actually 10-15 years away with the success of CRISPR gene editing on HIV-1 at temple university

[CoolAwesomeBXDude]

Jmho, I wouldn't. So many issues.

i wouldnt either.

[natina]

There are dating sites for people with HIV, Herpes,HPV and antibiotic resistant STD's.
Condoms break and you can get a different strain of HIV are get Herpes in a different body part.

I would not on purpose date a HIV/Herpes positive person.

[natina]

https://www.positivesingles.com

https://www.hsvsingles.com

http://www.pof.com

[pimpdog]

She is very brave and courageous being honest, all the guys saying.they wouldn't date her are the same ones wearing a mask in a video, but letting a escort creamepie them, look at the percentages , most people are lying or just blind.

[TSLoverIB]

Exactly pimpdog, well said, that is why i am really considering it. Shes really nice, and i feel she was wrongfully done as alot of people that get this illness.

[kaientai]

It is a difficult choice, if you feel she is the one I would take it. Acording to studies if she is undetectable and you are her only partner in the sack eventualy you could have seks without a condom. Its a hard choice either way good luck

[TSLoverIB]

Hi kaientai, yeh i agree, been reading a lot about side effects of some of these Preps, looks like , like you said if she can stay under 200ml at undetectable. If i decide to get on prep, they are making generic brand now too. Just currently taking day getting to know each other, thanks for your thoughts.

[Paladin]

You haven't even met her in person yet??

[TSLoverIB]

Hey Pal
Yes, we met for a drink, but haven't got together since, trying to get to know her, we talk everyday. There are so many comments of getting together more, doing lots of things. Thats what makes it difficult, because if we continue this, then we will get to physical.

[alreik]

If you truly like her, as you seem to be, and want something solid, speak with her doctor, he/she can tell you more,
I am a doctor myself but hardly know the specifics
If I may, is she a gg or trans?

[TSLoverIB]

Hi alreik
Yes, i was thinking later, going with her, to talk with her doctor.
Shes is a Transsexual woman.

[alreik]

Hi,TsLover
That may be more complicated, but guessing from your choice of words and how she got HIV, I'm guessing she is more on the receiving side, which should minimize your risk a little.
Living with an HIV patient has its risks, yes, but is manageable with both pre and post exposure prophylaxis, as long as you are careful with shared stuff, toothbrush etc and use appropriate care, but again, go see her doctor, and speak honestly and openly, it's better this way, and for your sake don't get guilt tripped or anything if you decide not to go on with it.

[TSLoverIB]

Hi alreik
Thanks for your reply, information.
Your right, ive even thought of even the simple things of living with the person to be careful. Like you said things from a toothbrush, to even the bathroom. Well she has stated me she does enjoy being verse as well, that even complicates it even more. If the relationship progresses, is there a safe way to become intimate without the use of condoms? Or is it just too risky to not use them? There is a lot of information out there. From a doctors point of view, what do you think?

[alreik]

Regular life is manageable, as in, it takes conscious effort, not to a paranoid level but healthy care, the odds of a toothbrush injuring both gums and transmitting a disease is close to 1 in a million, but it is there... easily solved by using 2 :), a toilet seat is even harder but again careful hygiene should do, a lot of parents live with their HIV +ve kids with very little risk.

The sex part is difficult, especially if you both wanna be verse, the rectum contains a lot of blood vessels that increase absorption of the virus, even more than a mouth or a vagina, which is why it's more risky for you. Yes Prep helps but on a regular sexlife you increase the risk. Oh and codoms are pretty much a must for precaution, theoretically it's possible but no doctor would "professionally" tell you that, and you don't want to perform tests everytime you have sex and lead a normal life with a Damocles sword hanging over both of you.

Don't let it stress you too much, living is very much possible, talk to her doctor first and see how the physical aspects work out.

[TSLoverIB]

Thanks alreik
Thank you for all the information, being honest with the assistance.

[alreik]

You're welcome, take care :)

[fred41]

ask a doctor that's actually familiar to your situation...
I suggest someone involved in the LGBT community. With all due respect, a lot of "regular" doctors don't help the situation or give realistic answers. JMHO

[diddyboponTOP]

I fucked a TS that use to be very well known on these boards about 17 years ago. She was super hot and Healthy looking but there were always rumors about her having HIV, I thought it was just just other T girls and fellas jelly cause I was tapping that for free, this was in the Aol days. Good looking Italian cats like I was then got lots of free ass, I use to date the girls too though not just Feb lots of times
Anyway I always used a rubber due to the rumors and the fact that she always insisted as well, anyway today she still posts on BP and I can tell she has full blown Aids The rumors were very true now she admits it to me as well...I'm fine never went raw etc it's amazing that she gets clients, I see the illness In the pics, sure she has the huge triple D fits and the Huge Latina Sill pumped ass and Hooker 1990s lips the rest is a bone and very drawn and gaunt looking.

[TSLoverIB]

Yeh fred, i figure if it goes that far, like alreik mentioned, i will go to her doctor with her, ask some questions.
Really diddy? Thats unfortunate, shes still escorting? I have heard rumors of a lot of tgirls being positive.
I just have never slept with someone if i didnt feel something for them. Never been with a escort, never had a one night stand.
Thanks for all your replies, really appreciate it.

[diddyboponTOP]

Yeh fred, i figure if it goes that far, like alreik mentioned, i will go to her doctor with her, ask some questions.
Really diddy? Thats unfortunate, shes still escorting? I have heard rumors of a lot of tgirls being positive.
I just have never slept with someone if i didnt feel something for them. Never been with a escort, never had a one night stand.
Thanks for all your replies, really appreciate it.

YEP, Right in Conn now, yes they still work, the last generation of Girls were what I call the Thunder Cat group, very cat like features, Huhe asses and Tits Jessica Rabits, no one would hire them for regular jobs and they have to survive, for many of them escorting is the only option, sick or not...At least she " always" makes everyone rubber up

[Vladimir Putin]

I would be good friends with an HIV positive person, but I would not want to have a relationship with them.

[LovinThaTSLadiez]

I wouldn't. If I had HIV, I would totally understand if no one without HIV wanted to be in a relationship with me.

[TSalltheway]

Your question is quite ridiculous, if I may say. You're asking for a "green light" from unknown people on an internet forum? Or their confirmation that you shouldn't do it?

Clearly you like the person a lot, but the HIV situation is too much for an "average person" to handle. HIV shouldn't be such a big issue for dating - it's not AIDS, ffs. If you're afraid it could get "serious" (the relationship, not the infection), then clearly it CAN get serious. So what if it does?!

You can only regret tomorrow that you were too afraid to do it, quitting on something (obviously) very promising can indeed haunt you for a very long time. You can only see if it was a valuable relationship if you get into it, not by (over)thinking it.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

No, I couldn't

[holzz]

no. I think with TS women, sex without a condom is preferable. No likelihood of a baby popping up several months later, whether top or bottom.

I know some AIDS drugs can mask it so it's difficult to transmit, but meh...it's not for me.

[Vladimir Putin]

I don't know if my medical insurance would even cover antiviral drugs. I already know my insurance doesn't cover the shingles vaccine.

[TSLoverIB]

Hey everyone
Is anyone on the board taking PrEP?
Has anyone personally purchased online?
Reliable site or order?
I see Truvada is really high but a generic is out, made in India.
Anyone on Tenvir EM?
Thanks