Milo Lies About TG's, And Why Bill Maher Is A Fucking Moron

[nysprod]

I've said this numerous times on twitter to Breitfart so I'll repeat it here: The problem with Milo isn't that he's a queen, it's that he's a lying, raving queen.

Introducing him on his show last night, Maher said “I think you’re colossally wrong on a number of things. But if I banned everyone from my show who I thought was colossally wrong, I would be talking to myself.”

I agree that people with differing opinions should not be banned but the issue here is that Milo spreads LIES, as he did last night on the show by saying that transgender people were “vastly disproportionately involved in sex crime.”

There are no crime statistics to back up this claim. Milo lied, pure and simple.

In this age of fake news it's essential that media provide no platforms whatsoever for proven liars.

Kellyanne Conway (aka The Spinatrix) has been banned by many media outlets for exactly this reason and Milo should be as well.

[lifeisfiction]

Sorry Prod, but could you share what you're referencing about? I am a little lost.

[ILuvGurls]

"if you like your insurance, you can keep it"

[nysprod]

Sorry Prod, but could you share what you're referencing about? I am a little lost.

Bill Maher had Milo on his show last night. If you have HBO you can watch it but the point I'm making is that Milo lies (specifically in this instance about tg's and sex crimes), and that media should not be providing platforms to proven liars.


"if you like your insurance, you can keep it"

Let's stay on topic for this thread, but you can start another one if you want to.

[Ben in LA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lImHh7fqrQo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cDLflyQ8TA

[dreamon]

Milo is a racist, self-hating gay piece of shit.

[DeezNuts515]

They called him out on his lack of evidence.

[christianxxx]

i am going to assume he meant that many TS girls are escorts or sex workers which is criminal in the US. but i am just talking out of my ass lol

[nysprod]

i am going to assume he meant that many TS girls are escorts or sex workers which is criminal in the US. but i am just talking out of my ass lol

Maybe...I do know there's a higher per capita population of trans escorts in red Dallas Tx and Raleigh NC than in blue NY and LA

[nysprod]

Milo made a joke about Sen. Chuck Schumer being funny before he "contracted feminism" but I think what really bothers Milo is that he wasn't born one lol

What I really want to see is Milo sitting in the middle of a panel discussion with a few republican christian conservatives, although it's likely at least one of them would be closeted

[dreamon]

i am going to assume he meant that many TS girls are escorts or sex workers which is criminal in the US. but i am just talking out of my ass lol

I wouldn't give Yiannapolis the benefit of the doubt. He's a hateful idiot. He doxxed and harrassed a transgender student while speaking at the University of Wisconsin last year.

[DeseosEscandulosos]

i am going to assume he meant that many TS girls are escorts or sex workers which is criminal in the US.

That's a good point. If it's true, and given that so many tgs are doing sex work out of necessity, it means instead of being a lier, he's a verbally abusive asshole.

I don't know much about this guy. Am I wrong in thinking that he's unimportant?

[dreamon]

That's a good point. If it's true, and given that so many tgs are doing sex work out of necessity, it means instead of being a lier, he's a verbally abusive asshole.

He is both a liar and a verbally abusive asshole.

Lying: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/19/14-facts-the-tanking-women-in-tech-movement-doesnt-want-you-to-know/

Verbally abusive asshole: https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarzel/twitter-just-permanently-suspended-conservative-writer-milo


I don't know much about this guy. Am I wrong in thinking that he's unimportant?

You aren't wrong for thinking he is unimportant. He is a Neo-Nazi that is only famous among the alt-right on Twitter, reddit and 4chan.

[dreamon]

Milo is a verifiable transphobe:

https://yiannopoulos.net/2014/08/15/transgenderism-is-a-psychiatric-disorder-its-sufferers-need-therapy-not-surgery/

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/10/31/gay-internet-troll-milo-yiannopoulos-goes-on-transphobic-tour-of-america/

http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/12/milo-yiannopoulos-harassed-a-trans-student-at-uw-milwaukee.html

http://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2016/12/16/breitbart-s-milo-yiannopoulos-doubles-down-harassing-transgender-university-wisconsin-student/214849

https://thegavoice.com/creep-week-milo-yiannopoulos-racist-sexist-transphobic-hatemonger/

[Stavros]

[QUOTE=nysprod;1750267]
I agree that people with differing opinions should not be banned but the issue here is that Milo spreads LIES, as he did last night on the show by saying that transgender people were “vastly disproportionately involved in sex crime.”

There are no crime statistics to back up this claim. Milo lied, pure and simple.
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The only statistics that do support the claim show that when transgendered citizens are involved in sex crimes, it is as the victims of crime, which you can find in this link-
http://www.avp.org/storage/documents/ncavp_transhvfactsheet.pdf

In this age of fake news it's essential that media provide no platforms whatsoever for proven liars.
--Why then is Donald Trump, a proven liar, given a public platform -how do you ban a President from giving a speech, regardless of the rubbish he talks?

[nysprod]

In this age of fake news it's essential that media provide no platforms whatsoever for proven liars.

Why then is Donald Trump, a proven liar, given a public platform -how do you ban a President from giving a speech, regardless of the rubbish he talks?

For one thing, I wouldn't report on his campaign rally this weekend unless he said something newsworthy.


Milo is a verifiable transphobe:

https://yiannopoulos.net/2014/08/15/transgenderism-is-a-psychiatric-disorder-its-sufferers-need-therapy-not-surgery/

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/10/31/gay-internet-troll-milo-yiannopoulos-goes-on-transphobic-tour-of-america/

http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/12/milo-yiannopoulos-harassed-a-trans-student-at-uw-milwaukee.html

http://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2016/12/16/breitbart-s-milo-yiannopoulos-doubles-down-harassing-transgender-university-wisconsin-student/214849

https://thegavoice.com/creep-week-milo-yiannopoulos-racist-sexist-transphobic-hatemonger/

That's why I said Maher was a fucking moron for having him on. Media should provide no platforms.

[holzz]

i agree with him, or more to the point his agenda. Society is getting too PC and SJWs are ruining shit, and Islam is a menace. he's also right about extreme feminism, that it's morphed from equality to man-hating. BUt he's wrong on transgenders. I guess I'm being biased, but then he says gender reassignment doesn't work, and should be changed. Well, no medical procedure is perfect. MOST TS women who transition live normal lives afterwards. Even if they need therapy, so what? people with depression or bipolar may need lifelong therapy, but they can still function, get a job, get married, etc.

That said, he's right on most other issues. Just he triggers people with sinister agendas, and who don't like being wrong.

[MrFanti]

With Milo,
Nothing is easy nor is it clear-cut - and here's an example.

If you are pro-transgender rights, but think Milo is a racist, well...think about how those Muslim countries (that are causing you to label Milo as a racist) treat transgender women.

[blackchubby38]

I had heard about this Milo Yiannopoulos guy before, but I never knew what he was about until the other night. This is the guy that caused people on the left to freak out and destroy property on Berkley's campus?

You want to defeat someone like Milo you do it like this. He shouldn't be banned from making television appearances. Rather he should be allowed to speak, make his points, and tell his hack jokes. Then you counter the points that he is wrong about with facts and since he gets off on people getting upset about what he says, you ignore him when he says something that you find offensive. No reaction is better than groaning and showing him that he is getting underneath your skin.

[Budweiser]

I really like Milo. He really speaks his mind, and does not allow the poison ideology of political correctness to limit his free thought or free speech in any way. He is a real smart person.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-sX5JLwidE

[giovanni_hotel]

The real problem with Milo is he's self-hating and the alt-right have embraced him because he hates progressive issues and causes.

Milo mentally isn't a healthy individual and yet he still manages to gather a following.
But I guess I could too as a Black man if I went around saying n#####s ain't shit.


Fuck Milo.

[holzz]

thing is, he's right on Muslims. IN the UK,they do ghettoize,and 50% of Muslims in UK want Sharia Law to be the norm for all. I think he's pretty tame, says things that the mainstream agree with.

[bryanferryfan2]

Irony is that he aligns himself with the alt-right who in turn hates his guts because he's a Catholic/Jew who's gay and fucks black men.
I wouldn't be surprised if one of his alt-right brethren does his punk-ass in.

[filghy2]

thing is, he's right on Muslims. IN the UK,they do ghettoize,and 50% of Muslims in UK want Sharia Law to be the norm for all. I think he's pretty tame, says things that the mainstream agree with.

Actually, the correct figure is that 23% per cent were in favour of Sharia law in some parts of the country https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law
That's till concerning, but hardly as bad as you are trying to paint it. Aslo, the survey has been criticised for only covering areas with at least 20% muslim population, which means that more conservative muslims are likely to be overrepresented.

[Budweiser]

Actually, the correct figure is that 23% per cent were in favour of Sharia law in some parts of the country https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law
That's till concerning, but hardly as bad as you are trying to paint it. Aslo, the survey has been criticised for only covering areas with at least 20% muslim population, which means that more conservative muslims are likely to be overrepresented.

One percent would be too high, and would necessarily dictate that all Muslims should be ejected from the country. Would you eat jelly beans out of a bowl if you knew that just one of them was deadly poison? All Muslims want to throw all LGBTQ people off the top of tall buildings and then throw stones at them until they die.

[GroobySteven]

thing is, he's right on Muslims. IN the UK,they do ghettoize,and 50% of Muslims in UK want Sharia Law to be the norm for all. I think he's pretty tame, says things that the mainstream agree with.

No they don't. Get your statistics right, you're as bad as he is with lies.

[GroobySteven]

One percent would be too high, and would necessarily dictate that all Muslims should be ejected from the country. Would you eat jelly beans out of a bowl if you knew that just one of them was deadly poison? All Muslims want to throw all LGBTQ people off the top of tall buildings and then throw stones at them until they die.

You're a fucking idiot.
If 1% of a group of people think one way, then you think the other 99% are responsible?
All Muslims do not want to throw LGBTQ ...

Leave this forum now please. It's not for you.

[Stavros]

Milo Yiannopoulos is a libertarian who believes in minimal government, minimal taxes and maximum individual liberty; the only collective identity he supports is 'the nation' which may be narrowly defined depending on the nation concerned, and that is why he reacts negatively to collective identities like 'LGBT' -as for his public antics, he says himself he is a prankster, like the idiot in your school who puts chewing gum on the chair before someone sits on it, or puts salt in the sugar bowl, Yiannopoulos delights in provoking people with outrageous statements and often either makes stories up or distorts them precisely to provoke an outraged reaction. But there are other less sensational ways of generating serious debate about serious issues, so there is no need to entertain the entertainer with nothing to say.

[nysprod]

I really like Milo. He really speaks his mind, and does not allow the poison ideology of political correctness to limit his free thought or free speech in any way. He is a real smart person.



Really? Then why doesn't he walk up to a big, athletic black guy and use the N word on him?

[trish]

i agree with him, or more to the point his agenda. Society is getting too PC and SJWs are ruining shit, ...
Assholes who don’t want to be judged for the opinions they express whine about political correctness. Political correctness is not an ideology - poisonous (as Budweiser contends) or otherwise. It’s just people calling people out for their bigotry. The First Amendment cuts both ways: you have the right to express yourself without fearing retribution from the government (although with Trump in office, those days may soon be over); and others have the right to criticize and judge you for your expressed thoughts and opinions (without fear from retribution from the government). Neither has the right not to be judged and criticized by others for what they say. Nor does anyone have the right to express himself or herself anywhere at any time. Private venues and forums don’t have to give you or me a voice. Private businesses don't have to put up with bigots - and they won't because it's not good business. When a bigot, chauvinist, racist or fascist gets called out for expressing his opinion, he whines about social justice warriors and political correctness. Those hated SJWs are just saying what they think. Isn’t that why 'everyone' admires Trump? His acolytes are always telling us, ”He says what he thinks.”

[MrFanti]

Really? Then why doesn't he walk up to a big, athletic black guy and use the N word on him?
Kinda' like many people online (including this place) that talk a lot trash - but not in folks faces...

[Budweiser]

Really? Then why doesn't he walk up to a big, athletic black guy and use the N word on him?

Probably because he would rather give a guy like that a blow job, not insult him!

[nysprod]

Probably because he would rather give a guy like that a blow job, not insult him!

Lol...could be, but Milo advocates for sex between "younger boys and older men" according to a tape that came out over the weekend.

[dreamon]

Milo Yiannopoulos is a libertarian who believes in minimal government, minimal taxes and maximum individual liberty; the only collective identity he supports is 'the nation' which may be narrowly defined depending on the nation concerned, and that is why he reacts negatively to collective identities like 'LGBT' -as for his public antics, he says himself he is a prankster, like the idiot in your school who puts chewing gum on the chair before someone sits on it, or puts salt in the sugar bowl, Yiannopoulos delights in provoking people with outrageous statements and often either makes stories up or distorts them precisely to provoke an outraged reaction. But there are other less sensational ways of generating serious debate about serious issues, so there is no need to entertain the entertainer with nothing to say.

Milo is not a libertarian. He supports increasing government power and suppressing free speech. Neither of these things are libertarian, they are authoritarian by definition.

[blackchubby38]

On a related note:

Milo Yiannopoulos Dropped as CPAC Speaker Amid Pedophilia Video Controversy-

Milo Yiannopoulos' invitation to deliver the keynote address at this week's Conservative Political Action Conference, known as CPAC, has been rescinded.

"Due to the revelation of an offensive video in the past 24 hours condoning pedophilia, the American Conservative Union has decided to rescind the invitation of Milo Yiannopoulos to speak at the Conservative Political Action Conference," read a statement from ACU chairman Matt Schlapp on Monday.

A newly posted video from a 2016 episode of "The Drunken Peasants" podcast features Yiannopoulos discussing his own sexual abuse as a teen. During the podcast, he does not appear to condemn similar relationships between children and men.

Yiannopoulos took to his Facebook page Sunday night to say, "I do not support pedophilia. Period. It is a vile and disgusting crime, perhaps the very worst. There are selectively edited videos doing the rounds, as part of a coordinated effort to discredit me from establishment Republicans, that suggest I am soft on the subject."

He went on to list several examples from his career as a right-wing journalist to prove that he is "completely disgusted by the abuse of children" if it comes across that he meant any of the "ugly things" alleged in the video.

"We realize that Mr. Yiannopoulos has responded on Facebook, but it is insufficient. It is up to him to answer the tough questions and we urge him to immediately further address these disturbing comments," Schlapp continued in the statement. "We initially extended the invitation knowing that the free speech issue on college campuses is a battlefield where we need brave, conservative standard-bearers."

[broncofan]

Milo has made many disturbing comments about a whole range of subjects, including the ones listed above. He is barely more subtle about it than the poster here who calls himself Budweiser, but it's a poorly disguised version of the same thing. Misogyny, racism, Islamophobia. His supporters hide behind that fact that Milo is gay, brags about sleeping with black men, and has some Jewish ancestry, as though his comments change based on these facts. The same people who spend their days attacking minorities argue that his minority status and choice of partners sanitizes his comments.

Any private organization can choose to associate with him or not. If someone chooses him as a speaker, that means they think his views are more than simply abuse and that the many patently offensive statements he's made should be part of our national conversation. It doesn't necessarily mean they agree with everything, but they are saying he has not expressed viewpoints which should be stigmatized. So I agree it was moronic for Bill to have him on his show.

[Ben in LA]

Guess he now understands how freedom of speech works.

Then again, maybe not.

[holzz]

No they don't. Get your statistics right, you're as bad as he is with lies.

yes, they do. I believe that it's pretty obvious they live in ghettos and stuff.

that doesn't invalidate many of his other points though, does it?

[holzz]

Assholes who don’t want to be judged for the opinions they express whine about political correctness. Political correctness is not an ideology - poisonous (as Budweiser contends) or otherwise. It’s just people calling people out for their bigotry. The First Amendment cuts both ways: you have the right to express yourself without fearing retribution from the government (although with Trump in office, those days may soon be over); and others have the right to criticize and judge you for your expressed thoughts and opinions (without fear from retribution from the government). Neither has the right not to be judged and criticized by others for what they say. Nor does anyone have the right to express himself or herself anywhere at any time. Private venues and forums don’t have to give you or me a voice. Private businesses don't have to put up with bigots - and they won't because it's not good business. When a bigot, chauvinist, racist or fascist gets called out for expressing his opinion, he whines about social justice warriors and political correctness. Those hated SJWs are just saying what they think. Isn’t that why 'everyone' admires Trump? His acolytes are always telling us, ”He says what he thinks.”

SJWs are making campuses places for sanitised pussies. I don't think this is healthy and/or normal.

[trish]

SJWs are making campuses places for sanitised pussies. I don't think this is healthy and/or normal.
University and college campuses are and have always been places for all sorts of people. Some of them might even be over sensitive artists and thinkers - or in your vernacular: sanitized pussies. Some of them might be liberals and progressives. Not to worry though, we’ve we also have young republicans, libertarians, pro-choice Christians, Trump supporters and all the rest. They’re all people who don’t mind saying what they think and being judged for it.

If you’re on the job working for somebody else, then of course you may have to adhere to the decorum of your business. Universities are businesses and administrators are concerned with keeping the population of paying students at a maximum. They expect the professors to teach, mentor and not offend the clients. That’s normal in any business. A waiter wouldn’t last an hour at MacDonald’s if he insulted the customers. Bosses are not being politically correct, nor are they SJWs.

There are no thought police in our society. In most contexts outside of work you can say whatever you want - unless you’re too fucking embarrassed to say it, or too afraid of being called out and judged for your opinion. If that’s case, then you might complain about the SJWs and political correctness stifling your speech - but you’d be wrong: it’s your own guilt that’s holding you back. (That's what people really like about Trump: he has no guilt - he can't be embarrassed - he's a narcissistic sociopath).

[Stavros]

Milo is not a libertarian. He supports increasing government power and suppressing free speech. Neither of these things are libertarian, they are authoritarian by definition.

He swings both ways. One time he called himself a 'cultural libertarian' and at other times ridiculed libertarians as selfish people obsessed with weed, hacking and bitcoin; on another occasion he claimed to support Trump's presidential campaign because he viewed it as an opportunity to destroy the Republican Party and lead to its replacement with a Libertarian party. In the end it doesn't matter what he thinks, because he doesn't matter.

[trish]

According to the LATimes, Milo resigned from his senior editorship at Breitbart News today. Apparently his comments on pedophilia were even too much for those guys. Political correctness has made Breitbart a place for 'sanitized pussies' :)

[dreamon]

SJWs are making campuses places for sanitised pussies. I don't think this is healthy and/or normal.

Have you spent time on a college campus lately or are you basing this on what someone on the internet told you?

[Dudedude12345]

Isn't Milo a pedophile?

[dreamon]

Isn't Milo a pedophile?

yes, he is.

[broncofan]

Have you spent time on a college campus lately or are you basing this on what someone on the internet told you?
You've seen his posts. If he's spent time at a college then that college should lose its accreditation.

[DegenerateLibertine]

University and college campuses are and have always been places for all sorts of people. Some of them might even be over sensitive artists and thinkers - or in your vernacular: sanitized pussies. Some of them might be liberals and progressives. Not to worry though, we’ve we also have young republicans, libertarians, pro-choice Christians, Trump supporters and all the rest. They’re all people who don’t mind saying what they think and being judged for it.

If you’re on the job working for somebody else, then of course you may have to adhere to the decorum of your business. Universities are businesses and administrators are concerned with keeping the population of paying students at a maximum. They expect the professors to teach, mentor and not offend the clients. That’s normal in any business. A waiter wouldn’t last an hour at MacDonald’s if he insulted the customers. Bosses are not being politically correct, nor are they SJWs.

There are no thought police in our society. In most contexts outside of work you can say whatever you want - unless you’re too fucking embarrassed to say it, or too afraid of being called out and judged for your opinion. If that’s case, then you might complain about the SJWs and political correctness stifling your speech - but you’d be wrong: it’s your own guilt that’s holding you back. (That's what people really like about Trump: he has no guilt - he can't be embarrassed - he's a narcissistic sociopath).

I wish more folks thoroughly understood this.

[holzz]

Have you spent time on a college campus lately or are you basing this on what someone on the internet told you?

no, i see it all the time.

[Stavros]

no, i see it all the time.

Dude, be informed or be deluded.

In 1957, sociologist Eugene Kanin (http://www.jstor.org/stable/2773906?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents) found that 62 percent of a sample of college freshmen women had experienced “offensive and displeasing attempts at necking, petting above… [and] below the waist, sexual intercourse, and/or a more violent attempt at sexual intercourse accompanied by menacing threats or coercive infliction of physical pain.”
http://theconversation.com/how-common-are-sexual-harassment-and-rape-in-the-united-states-67358



11.2% of all students experience rape or sexual assault through physical force, violence, or incapacitation (among all graduate and undergraduate students).2

Among graduate and professional students, 8.8% of females and 2.2% of males experience rape or sexual assault through physical force, violence, or incapacitation.2
Among undergraduate students, 23.1% of females and 5.4% of males experience rape or sexual assault through physical force, violence, or incapacitation.2
4.2% of students have experienced stalking since entering college.2
https://www.rainn.org/statistics/campus-sexual-violenc

[gaysian71]

I'm not surprised about the latest news with Milo. He is gay after all. But is it really pedophilia if the teenager really wants to have sex with a man? I'm pretty sure it happens all the time in the gay community.

[dreamon]

no, i see it all the time.

If you aren't on college campuses, where are you seeing it?

[nysprod]

I'm not surprised about the latest news with Milo. He is gay after all. But is it really pedophilia if the teenager really wants to have sex with a man? I'm pretty sure it happens all the time in the gay community.

See now there you go saying the same thing that people who hate gays believe. This is a stereotype with no basis in fact.

A National Institute of Health study found the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756)

It's the same thing with people freaked out about tg's using bathrooms of their gender. There's no epidemic of tg sexual abuse in bathrooms or anywhere else. In reality, they're the victims not the perps.

[SXFX]

glad that queen fell on his face!

[Dudedude12345]

I'm not surprised about the latest news with Milo. He is gay after all. But is it really pedophilia if the teenager really wants to have sex with a man? I'm pretty sure it happens all the time in the gay community.

If you have sex with a child, yore a pedophile

[DeseosEscandulosos]

"I knew Yiannopoulos before he was Yiannopoulos, and we are still not friends, because I’m not friends with anyone who puts my real friends in danger for fun and fortune, and, anyway, his tour bus smells of sweaty teenage trolls."

And

"Now the entire alt-right is realizing, in full view of a few million popcorn-munching online leftists, that they were never the new punk. They were never the suave and seductive blackshirts of the new American authoritarianism. They are, at best, the brownshirts, and they are becoming less useful to their benefactors by the day. Where they were once “underground,” they are now are an ankle-biting embarrassment to the movement they made mainstream — and they have no clue what to do next."

I can't decide if this is brilliant analysis, or just skillful ranting.

https://psmag.com/on-the-milo-bus-with-the-lost-boys-of-americas-new-right-629a77e87986#.2gqwncwsi