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Jamie Michelle
09-13-2006, 11:04 AM
In original reports (i.e., not simply going off the reports of other news agencies) by Newsweek, the Los Angeles Times, the New York Times, the Washington Post, and Gannett News Service, the below accused 9/11 hijackers have been named as having trained at U.S. military bases:

Saeed Alghamdi (United Airlines 93)
Ahmed Alnami (United Airlines 93)
Ahmed Alghamdi (United Airlines 175)
Hamza Alghamdi (United Airlines 175)
Mohamed Atta (American Airlines 11)
Abdulaziz Alomari (American Airlines 11)

- The Pensacola Naval Air Station in Pensacola, Florida: Newsweek reported that a high-ranking U.S. Navy source said that Saeed Alghamdi, Ahmad Alnami (both United Airlines 93) and Ahmed Alghamdi (United Airlines 175) listed their legal residences at 10 Radford Boulevard, a base roadway on which residences for foreign-military flight trainees are located. Saeed Alghamdi listed the address on two different car registrations. Ahmad Alnami and Ahmed Alghamdi listed the address on their driver licenses. The Washington Post reported that Saeed Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi attended. The Washington Post reported that Ahmed Alnami and Hamza Alghamdi (United Airlines 175) listed their legal residence at the same address.

- Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas: Newsweek reported that a high-ranking Pentagon official said one of the named hijackers attended. The Washington Post reported that Saeed Alghamdi (United Airlines 93) graduated from the Defense Language Institute English Language Center at the base. The Los Angeles Times reported that a defense official said two of the hijackers were former Saudi fighter pilots who had attended.

- Maxwell-Gunter Air Force Base in Montgomery, Alabama: Newsweek reported that a high-ranking Pentagon official said one of the named hijackers attended the Air War College. The Washington Post reported that Mohamed Atta (American Airlines 11) graduated from the International Officers School. Gannett News Service reported that Air Force spokesman Col. Ken McClellan said that Mohammed Atta attended the International Officer's School. The Los Angeles Times reported that a defense official said two of the hijackers were former Saudi fighter pilots who had attended the Air War College.

- The Defense Language Institute Foreign Language Center at the Presidio of Monterey in Monterey, California: Gannett News Service reported that Saeed Alghamdi (United Airlines 93) attended.

- USAF School of Aerospace Medicine at Brooks Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas: The Washington Post reported that Abdulaziz Alomari (American Airlines 11) graduated from the school. Gannett News Service reported that Abdulaziz Alomari attended.


U.S. government officals later claimed that these individuals who trained on these U.S. military bases were different people from the hijackers with the same names (even though high-level anonymous U.S. military sources told these various news agencies with certainty that these were the same individuals as the named hijackers). It was also vaguely stated that some of the biographical details didn't match exactly, although the U.S. government has never specified the differences or offered any evidence of these claims. Notably, none of these named U.S. military trainees has ever come forward to clear up the association of their names with those of the purported hijackers, and the U.S. government refuses to release any information about these supposedly differrent individuals.

It's as if none of these supposedly different individuals with the same names even exist. That doesn't make any sense, unless they are not different individuals from the named hijackers, in which case even if they were still alive they wouldn't likely be eager to come forward, nor would the U.S. government be eager to present details as to where they can be found.

See:

"Alleged Hijackers May Have Trained at U.S. Bases: The Pentagon has turned over military records on five men to the FBI," George Wehrfritz, Catharine Skipp and John Barry, Newsweek, September 15, 2001:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010917023145/http://www.msnbc.com/news/629529.asp

http://prisonplanet.com/alleged_hijackers_may_trained_us_bases.html

"Suspected Hijackers: 19 Quiet Lives That Shattered the World; Inquiry: 'Nice,' 'normal' guys had few belongings but access to lots of cash. Tantalizing clues show path to destruction.," H.G. Reza, Evan Halper and Lisa Getter, Los Angeles Times, September 15, 2001:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030812100412/http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-091501terror,0,3617363.story

"Shared Names for Hijackers," New York Times, September 15, 2001:

http://billstclair.com/911timeline/2001/nyt091501e.html

http://www.wanttoknow.info/010915nytimes

"2nd Witness Arrested; 25 Held for Questioning," Guy Gugliotta and David S. Fallis, Washington Post, September 16, 2001; Page A29:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=nation/specials/attacked&contentId=A38270-2001Sep15

"Reconstructing the hijackers' last days: Unusual leads surface; links to bin Laden found," Guy Gugliotta, Washington Post, September 16, 2001:

http://web.archive.org/web/20011024161527/http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2001/09/16reconstructingt.html

"Ashcroft asks Congress for expanded police powers as manhunt continues," Ana Radelat, Gannett News Service, September 17, 2001:

http://web.archive.org/web/20050205160603/http://www.summeroftruth.org/mcclellan.html

"Pensacola NAS link faces more scrutiny: Senator seeks answers on hijackers ties to Navy base," Larry Wheeler, Scott Streater and Ginny Graybiel, Pensacola News Journal, September 17, 2001:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010923193829/http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/news/091701/Local/ST001.shtml

"Doubt about the identities of the hijackers grows," Ana Radelat and Mike Madden, Gannett News Service, September 20, 2001:

http://greenvilleonline.com/news/2001/09/20/2001092012469.htm

"Pentagon Lied: Terrorists Trained at U.S. Bases," Daniel Hopsicker, MadCowMorningNews, Issue No. 6, October 14, 2001:

http://www.madcowprod.com/issue06.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20011124110050/http://www.madcowprod.com/index6.html

Chapter 11, "'Saudi Prince' Mohamed Atta?," in Welcome to Terrorland: Mohamed Atta & the 9-11 Cover-Up in Florida by Daniel Hopsicker (Walterville, Oregon: TrineDay, 2004):

http://www.american-buddha.com/911.welcometoterrorlandhop6.htm

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Statistical Calculation on the Odds of Arab U.S. Military Trainees Matching the Same Names as the Purported Hijackers, But Without Actually Being the Same People

All of the hijackers matching the names as being U.S. military trainees except for Mohamed Atta were supposedly born in Saudi Arabia (i.e., Saeed Alghamdi, Ahmed Alnami, Ahmed Alghamdi, Hamza Alghamdi, and Abdulaziz Alomari), with Atta supposedly being born in Egypt. Below is a guide on Arab naming conventions, with particular focus on common Saudi Arabian naming conventions.

"Arab Names," Saudi Public Relations Company (SPRC), ArabNet:

http://www.arab.net/arabnames/index.html

Below is a list of the 100 most common Arab family or tribal names, with population statistics given for them. I'm not sure how accurate the below statistics are, nor does it cite its source for the statistics, but it was the only resource of its kind that I could find online. But even if the list is way off, the analysis that follows will show that the odds of the six named U.S. military trainees being different people from the named hijackers must of necessity be truly staggering. Hence, I use the below list to simply have some starting point to conduct the analysis.

"Arabic Names in the Arab States: The 100 most common Arabic Last Names, including their rank and population (within the Arab States)," Tetradom Limited trading as Pdom.com:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030413072222/http://www.pdom.com/arabic_names.htm

The names Ghamdi, Nami, and Atta all show up on the above list as each being under (or possibly at) 570,000 total Arabs in the world for any one of these surnames (i.e., family names, or tribal names).

The name Omar shows up on the list three times, each time under a different English transliteration, with each entry listed as 620,000 total Arabs in the world with that family name. So to be on the safe side I'll take all of these entries and add them together, for a total of 1,860,000 Arabs in the world with a surname of Omar.

The total population of Arabs in the world is somewhere between 250-300 million people. So to be generous, I'll take that there are 300,000,000 total Arabs in the world. The Arab American Institute estimates that there is possibly a bit over 3.5 million Arabs in the U.S., with more than than 80% being U.S. citizens.

As I don't know what the actual figure is concerning how many Arabs have been trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil, for my calculations I'll use the figure that 1 in every 1,000 of the total world's Arab population have trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil. This seems exceedingly generous.

We are now in a position to calculate the odds of six Arabs matching the family or tribal names of Saeed Alghamdi, Ahmed Alnami, Ahmed Alghamdi, Hamza Alghamdi, Mohamed Atta, and Abdulaziz Alomari trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil, but without actually being the same people as these six named hijackers.

570000 (number of Arabs in the world with a surname of Ghamdi, Nami, or Atta) / 300000000 (total number of Arabs in the world) = 0.0019 (0.19% of the population of Arabs in the world with a surname of Ghamdi, Nami, or Atta)

1860000 (number of Arabs in the world with the surname of Omar) / 300000000 (total number of Arabs in the world) = 0.0062 (0.62% of the population of Arabs in the world with a surname of Omar)

300000 (total number of Arabs trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil) * 0.0019^5 (0.19% of the population of Arabs in the world with a surname of Ghamdi, Nami, or Atta, raised by the power of five, for the five individuals with one of these names) * 0.0062 (0.62% of the population of Arabs in the world with a surname of Omar) = 4.60554414 E-11

1 / 4.60554414 E-11 = ~21712960935.8168

Hence, we come to a 1 in 21.7 billion (i.e., U.S. billion) odds that there could be six Arabs matching the surnames of Saeed Alghamdi, Ahmed Alnami, Ahmed Alghamdi, Hamza Alghamdi, Mohamed Atta, and Abdulaziz Alomari trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil, but without actually being the same people as these six named hijackers.

Keep in mind that this analysis only concerns surnames (i.e., Arab family or tribal names). If one were to do an analysis which included the given names (i.e., first names, the Arab *ism*) along with the surnames, then the odds against six Arabs matching the names of Saeed Alghamdi, Ahmed Alnami, Ahmed Alghamdi, Hamza Alghamdi, Mohamed Atta, and Abdulaziz Alomari trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil, but without actually being the same people as these six named hijackers, would be many orders of magnitude more improbable. In other words, the actual odds of such an event occuring are many orders of magnitude more improbable than my above calculation.

Also, even if a number of the figures concerning name-populations and/or Arabs trained on U.S. military bases are off by a wide margin, we can still see by this analysis how truly large the odds against these six U.S. military trainees being different people from the named hijackers must be.

Furthermore, bear in mind that there are many different ways to transliterate Arab names into English. Thus, in English, the exact same Arab name could be spelled a number of different ways; but in each case, these various English spellings would be referring to the exact same name in Arabic.

Jamie Michelle
09-13-2006, 11:05 AM
For much, much more on government-staged terrorism, see my below post:

"Documentation on Government-Staged Terrorism," September 30, 2005:

http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2&mforum=libertyandtruth

guyone
09-13-2006, 03:15 PM
What would be the motive of the government to stage these attacks? What does this 'shadow government' have to gain?

Jamie Michelle
09-14-2006, 12:27 AM
What would be the motive of the government to stage these attacks? What does this 'shadow government' have to gain?

The same reason the U.S. government intentionally provoked and knowingly allowed the Pearl Harbor attack to happen, why all the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff in 1962 approved the Operation Northwoods false-flag terror plan (which thankfully didn't go forward due to John F. Kennedy), why it used the phoney Gulf of Tonkin attack to start the U.S. actively fighting in the Vietnam War with the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, why it staged the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, and why it staged the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing: to obtain more funding, power and control, i.e., to manufacture pretexts in order to take over other countries and/or to set up a police state domestically. War is the health of the state, and so is terrorism. Al-CIAda and the CIArabs are the U.S. government's goose that lays it golden eggs.

This is the same reason governments throughout history have staged terror attacks, such as with the Nazis burning the Reichstag parliament building in order to pass the Enabling Act and set up a police state. Or with the 1939 false-flag staged attack against the German radio station Sender Gleiwitz so that the German government could have a pretext to invade Poland. Or with the September 1999 Russian apartment building terror-bombing campain staged by the FSB (i.e., the present-day KGB but with a new name) so that the Russian government could have a pretext to invade Chechnya. The list of such staged attacks by governments just goes on and on.

For much, much more on government-staged terrorism, see my below post:

"Documentation on Government-Staged Terrorism," September 30, 2005:

http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2&mforum=libertyandtruth

Below is a Wikipedia article on Operation Northwoods with additional information on related Operation Mongoose staged-terror proposals by Pentagon officials:

"Operation Northwoods," Wikipedia, September 12, 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Operation_Northwoods&oldid=75361212

Nowadays government-staged terrorism has become a particularly important tool of statecraft, as in the present era the stage has been reached where forming a one-world government has become technologically feasible. Thus, there is much more at stake when it comes to ruling elites obtaining more power and control. Hence the push by the globalist elite to implement their long-standing desire for their self-termed New World Order one-world government and one-world enforced religion by hook or by crook, of which their staged 9/11 attacks were merely a part of this push. For a little more on that, see the below page:

"Quotes on the New World Order," State-Terror Archive:

http://stateterror.web1000.com/nwo-quotes.html

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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."--H. L. Mencken, "Women as Outlaws," A Mencken Chrestomathy (1949), pg. 29. This essay was first published in The Smart Set, December 1921.

"Government seems important to a people to the degree that it takes away their production in taxes. Correlary: The more the government takes the larger proportion of a people work for the government. Correlary: Without war or threat of imminent danger the government can't take a very large proportion of a people's production in taxes. Correlary: Without war or threat of imminent danger, government is not important. Correlary: Without war or the threat of imminent danger, the government will create them."--Steve Solomon, http://www.soilandhealth.org

"In some ways [Julia] was far more acute than Winston, and far less susceptible to Party propaganda. Once when he happened in some connection to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, 'just to keep people frightened.' This was an idea that had literally never occurred to him."--George Orwell in his book 1984

guyone
09-14-2006, 06:22 AM
Well I sure hope Mulder and Scully are on the case.

Jamie Michelle
09-14-2006, 05:37 PM
Well I sure hope Mulder and Scully are on the case.

No, this isn't a fictional story, like with the lying pap that your government feeds you. This is a thing called your life, and by your cowardliness in attempting to live a lie in denial, right now you're failing at your life in the most profound and ultimate of sense.

Below is one among a number of sections in my post "Documentation on Government-Staged Terrorism," September 30, 2005 ( http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2&mforum=libertyandtruth ). Let's see what kind of juvenile and vacuous response your cowardliness and your cognitive dissonance causes you to write in reply to it. Or maybe, just maybe, you'll stop living a lie in cowardly denial and begin to come to terms with reality as it actually is--hard, hated, feared and avoided as it is--instead of playing pusillanimous games with yourself in order to avoid unpleasant facts by pretending that reality is whatever you choose to believe it is.

"It was ever thus, all through my life: whenever I have diverged from custom and principle and uttered a truth, the rule has been that the hearer hadn't strength of mind enough to believe it."--Mark Twain

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."--Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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It was the FBI that bombed the World Trade Center in 1993:

None of this would be known today if it were not for the FBI's undercover agent Emad A. Salem taping his conversations with his FBI handlers (unbeknownst to them). Salem thought that the FBI might try to pin it on him so he took measures to protect himself. Indeed, without the FBI the '93 WTC bombing would never have happened, as it was agent Salem who built the bomb for the would-be Muslim "terrorists." Salem wanted to use fake ingredients for the "bomb" but the FBI ordered him to make a real one. When the making of the bomb was complete Salem told the FBI that they could now arrest the would-be terrorists, but the FBI told Salem that the bombing is to go forward. After agent Salem went public with his tapes in a news conference the FBI found it necessary to pay him over a million dollars just to shut him up.

For more on the above, see the below New York Times articles:

"Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast," Ralph Blumenthal, New York Times, October 28, 1993, Section A, Page 1, Column 4;

"Tapes in Bombing Plot Show Informer and F.B.I. at Odds," Ralph Blumenthal, New York Times, October 27, 1993, Section A, Page 1, Column 4:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b3c830e34de.htm

http://stateterror.web1000.com/fbi-bombed-wtc-new-york-times.html

And see also:

"Who Bombed The World Trade Center? FBI Bomb Builders Exposed," Paul DeRienzo, Frank Morales and Chris Flash, The Shadow, October 1994/January 1995 Issue:

http://pdr.autono.net/WhoBombedWTC.html

On the above webpage you can find the below two audio clips from one of Emad A. Salem's recorded telephone conversations with one of his FBI handlers, FBI Special Agent John Anticev:

http://nwo.media.xs2.net/tape/emad%20salem.mp3

http://stateterror.web1000.com/emad-salem.mp3 (Backup copy.)

The above clip is an excerpt from the below longer clip:

http://nwo.media.xs2.net/tape/SalemWBAI.mp3

http://stateterror.web1000.com/SalemWBAI.mp3 (Backup copy.)

The above clips are from a broadcast on WBAI Radio in the city of New York which aired this taped conversation between Emad A. Salem and FBI Special Agent John Anticev.

The below transcript is from 2:57 to 4:31 min:sec from the longer clip (SalemWBAI.mp3):

FBI Special Agent John Anticev: But, uh, basically nothing has changed. I'm just telling you for my own sake that nothing, that this isn't a salary, that it's--you know. But you got paid regularly for good information. I mean the expenses were a little bit out of the ordinary and it was really questioned. Don't tell Nancy I told you this. [Nancy Floyd is another FBI Special Agent who worked with Emad A. Salem in his informant capacity.]

FBI undercover agent Emad A. Salem: Well, I have to tell her of course.

Anticev: Well then, if you have to, you have to.

Salem: Yeah, I mean because the lady was being honest and I was being honest and everything was submitted with a receipt and now it's questionable.

Anticev: It's not questionable, it's like a little out of the ordinary.

Salem: Okay. Alright. I don't think it was. If that's what you think guys, fine, but I don't think that because we was start already building the bomb which is went off in the World Trade Center. It was built by supervising supervision from the Bureau and the D.A. and we was all informed about it and we know that the bomb start to be built. By who? By your confidential informant. What a wonderful, great case!

Anticev: Well.

Salem: And then he put his head in the sand and said "Oh, no, no, that's not true, he is son of a bitch." [Deep breath.] Okay. It's built with a different way in another place and that's it.

Anticev: No, don't make any rash decisions. I'm just trying to be as honest with you as I can.

Salem: Of course, I appreciate that.

Anticev: And as far as the payments go, and everything like that, they're there. I guarantee you that they are there.

shemalejunky
09-18-2006, 02:44 AM
This guy is laughable!

Smog Boy
09-19-2006, 04:36 PM
What would be the motive of the government to stage these attacks? What does this 'shadow government' have to gain?

Power, influence, funding for clandestine shenanigans. If you cater to the writings of Michael Moore, then Bandar Bush is a pawn used by Arabs and that he knew what was going to happen and it was allowed!

What was the point of the mighty US of A invading a small slip of land in South East Asia, other than rebuilding the American war machine and making billions of dollars.

All boils down to power. I'm not as eloquent as Jamie Michelle, but it's The Three Evils: Power, Money, Oil. :shrug

werwt22
09-19-2006, 08:03 PM
All questions I see are answered here....This is a great conspiracy theory....Love this movie.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loosechange

09-23-2006, 06:10 AM
Well I sure hope Mulder and Scully are on the case.


LMAO!!!